ALL: Would removing "real life experience" requirements from trans healthcare benefit everyone?

submitted by ntr4ctrAdult Male with gender dysphoria from (self.GCdebatesQT)

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[–]ntr4ctrAdult Male with gender dysphoria[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Nobody is forcing them to violate women' s rights. They decide to do it. Nobody is forcing them to change their sex markers on their IDs, nobody is forcing them to use women' s sex-segregated spaces, nobody is forcing them to join women' s sport leagues, nobody is forcing them to steal women' s position in politics, organizations and schools. They want to do it, they feel entitled to do it, and at this point I think they also enjoy doing it.

It's literally a requirement to get your genitals removed.

[–]Omina_SentenziosaSarcastic Ovalord 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

It' s a requirement to use women' s rape shelters, locker rooms, join women' s sports and be nominated in a women' s position in political parties? Maybe it is to change your markers (which, if it' s such a problem, you can change back after you get your surgery), but nobody is forcing you to use women' s stuff.

Also, I remember someone in the old sub talking about a category of gay men who removed their genitals and nipples in order to live their BDSM kinks: I doubt they were forced to identify as a woman in order to do it.

Plastic surgeons do whatever you want as long as you pay them. Which is, in itself, something horrific.

[–]ntr4ctrAdult Male with gender dysphoria[S] 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

I don't want to be in your political parties I just want to cut my disgusting dick off

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Why do you think women are obliged to help or to console you for you hating your dick?

[–]ntr4ctrAdult Male with gender dysphoria[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Where in here did I say anything about "obligation"?

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You didn’t use the exact word, you just swanned in and told a bunch of women that they should care more about you and your dick and the plight of the poor widdle men.

Why do you think women should care about you not liking your willy? Why should women vote to make life easier for men?

[–]Omina_SentenziosaSarcastic Ovalord 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You specifically, maybe not. Others definitely do, see Lily Madigan and Emilia Decaudin for example. The point is that you are making it a question of men being forced to destroy women' s rights if they want control on their body. Nobody is forcing Madigan or Decaudin to appropriate women' s position, it' s something they chose to do. Same goes for any trans natal male who uses women' s bathrooms/locker rooms/rape shelter, or joins a women' s team.

You won' t probably be one of those people since you say that you identify as a man, but the issue for us is not going away just because you, singular person, are not going to abuse the loophole.