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[–]adungitit 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Trans men are not female and that is the point.

So...why are people who are "not female" 100% female in every measurable capacity except their wishful thinking, if they're not female? Why are they talking about their female anatomy if they're not female? Why do I have a spine if I'm not a vertebrate? Why do I have 100% human anatomy if I'm a wolf?

An example of this is when people say that trans men are better than cis men because we understand what it's like to be women

rofl all it takes is one glance at male and female trans communities to notice the staggering differences between their values and behaviour.

This is why I can't stand when GC complains trans women talk over trans men.

Because it shows just how male-socialised men are and how female-socialised women are? Are we supposed to be surprised that men don't like having their misogynistic double standards pointed out to them?

if trans women started replying about not being allowed to show their breasts and trans men called them out, GC would make a post about how trans women are evil, narcissistic, AGP, etc.

Because men trying to co-opt womanhood while whining about how hard they have it because someone didn't use the right pronouns, all the while stomping on women is typical male behaviour? "Buh buh guise, it's the same thing when men are misogynistic against women and when the meanie woman feminazi attack the poor widdle babies for being misogynistic!" Uuuh, no, it's not. Take you golden median fallacy elsewhere.

Yet when cis women do the same thing they get upset when trans men call it out.

It's almost like men being misogynistic and silencing women =/= women not letting men walk over them

I mean, if one group is talking over the other it should be pointed out

Gosh, I wonder why we are pointing out that in our patriarchal society men continuously silence and talk over women and that this remains true even when everyone involved roleplays as the opposite gender, hmm 🤔 Nah, it's just bad because it's mean for anyone to talk more, and that's completely unrelated to stuff like sexism, which is all in your feminazi head!

when trans men point out GC talking over them

There have always been women insisting they're "one of the good (patriarchal) ones", there have always been women insisting they don't need these rights, that they don't need to vote, that they don't need a right to work or abortion. You are not special. You are not unique. Feminism doesn't exist to help a small number of women aware of how hard men are screwing them over, while all the other women can comfortably let the patriarchy walk all over them, it exists to improve the lives of women in general. Certain women playing respectability politics and trying to kiss men's misogynistic feewings better has always been the norm, and it in no way affects the goals of feminism and the fact that misogyny is wrong.