Discuss with just facts?

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[–]VioletRemihomosexual female (aka - lesbian) 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

compromising

Why it is WE who need to compromise? Why always women?

To me the compromise should be- female spaces remain sex based, and we just accept thst passing TW may use those spaces undetected, but we have the ability to ask an obvious male to leave.

It is still not a solution, and again imposted on us without our consent, ignoring us in general.

From possible "choices" it is the best one. But when you chose between "the worst", "very bad" and "not too bad" - it is not a choice.

became randomly mad, as it always happens to women, through millenias

I’d personally be okay with certain requirements being in place so at least we could stop the majority of it in theory.

Yeah, anti-safeguarding like in Norway by law (if you ask clearly man to leave, they can sue you to 3 years in jail, and that even can happen with just regular man who is not TW, as they can go after that and in the internet through site change their Self-ID and sue you as TW), or like in "Brenda not a Wolf" child's book that teaches kids to trust creepy guys near the van giving them candies, or like Oxford's university which invites any men inside, so creepy men can easily use that opportunity.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I’m agreeing with you that we shouldn’t have to compromise lol. I’m saying despite that truth, we most likely will have no choice but to compromise. I’m not saying it’s a solution, I’m saying that’s the best we’d realistically get. I don’t really know of a way that we’d check to ensure everyone is female, but if we uphold the sex based spaces and accept that potentially a rare passing transwoman is going to slip through undetected, that’s a hell of a lot better than what we have now.

[–]VioletRemihomosexual female (aka - lesbian) 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don’t really know of a way that we’d check to ensure everyone is female

Change society in a way that men are not automatically thinking that women should just take their will unquestioned, and where men have enough respect to women to not act like that. But those are just dreams for next hundred years at least.