Wondering if you can 3d print a firearm frame? (Not Legal Advise)
submitted 1 year ago * by JimiHendrix from (self.CanadaGuns)
NOT LEGAL ADVICE. In no way do I condone anything. This is purely for information.
Section 2(a)-Freedom of conscience and religion "Section 2(b)- Freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication. You have the right to think and believe what you want. You have the right to express those thoughts, without being afraid of being punished or silenced."
Honorable Judge Justice Peter C. West Stated:
"[13] The Glock 17 found in the Tuscon was loaded and functional and is a restricted firearm. It is a 22 calibre handgun. A restricted firearm license is required to manufacture and possess such a firearm."
https://www.canlii.org/en/on/oncj/doc/2020/2020oncj374/2020oncj374.html?searchUrlHash=AAAAAQATbWFudWZhY3R1cmUgZmlyZWFybQAAAAAB&resultIndex=11
Now to rephrase. To Manufacture and possess such a firearm (firearm referring to "Glock 17") A restricted firearm license is required.
that's a quote in itself. He does not go on to say you need a business license.
Also note that there was plenty of information on the RCMP website that you can make your own firearms for personal use.
Here's some links where they shared this information. Unfortunately they took down all data relating to it. However using ChatGPT we are able to scrub the data..:
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/faq/manufacture-fabrication-eng.htm
https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/firearms/registering-firearm-made-non-commercial-purposes https://www.canada.ca/en/services/policing/firearms-regulations/firearm-registration-system.html https://www.canada.ca/en/services/policing/firearms/legislation-policies/firearms-act.html https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/bt/frcrm-act-eng.aspx https://www.cfc-cafc.gc.ca/en/documents/forms/all-forms https://www.cfc-cafc.gc.ca/en/firearms/acquiring-firearms https://www.cfc-cafc.gc.ca/en/firearms/registration-firearms-non-commercial-purposes
Those are all websites that stated you could make your own firearms for personal use.
I Have applied for ATIP's and will gain access to this information shortly..
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More stuff of interest, This guy 3d printed and got approved: https://pholder.com/u/alkali_feldspar/ https://www.reddit.com/r/canadaguns/comments/3v1nlg/the_registration_for_my_3d_printed_ar_has_been/
This comes from chatGPT:
https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/firearms/registering-firearm-made-non-commercial-purposes
https://www.canada.ca/en/services/policing/firearms-regulations/firearm-registration-system.html
https://www.canada.ca/en/services/policing/firearms/legislation-policies/firearms-act.html
https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/bt/frcrm-act-eng.aspx
https://www.cfc-cafc.gc.ca/en/documents/forms/all-forms
https://www.cfc-cafc.gc.ca/en/firearms/acquiring-firearms
https://www.cfc-cafc.gc.ca/en/firearms/registration-firearms-non-commercial-purposes
"https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/firearms/registering-firearm-made-non-commercial-purposes "
"If you have a firearm made for non-commercial purposes, such as a home-made firearm, you must register it with the RCMP Canadian Firearms Program (CFP). The registration process for home-made firearms is the same as for other firearms and is outlined in the Registration of Firearms Made for Non-Commercial Purposes guide."
In canada do you need a business license to build your own firearm? Quote and site data
No, in Canada you do not need a business license to build your own firearm. According to the Canadian Firearms Program, "It is not necessary to hold a business license to make firearms for personal use. However, an individual must hold a valid firearms licence with the appropriate privileges and must follow all applicable requirements for the possession, storage, transportation and registration of the firearms." Source: https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/build-fabriquer-eng.htm
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Asked ChatGPT: can the RCMP change laws?
No, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) cannot change laws. The RCMP is Canada's national police service, responsible for enforcing federal, provincial, and territorial laws throughout the country. However, the authority to create and amend laws rests with elected representatives in Parliament and provincial/territorial legislatures, as well as with the courts that interpret those laws. The RCMP's role is to uphold the law and investigate potential violations of the law, but they do not have the power to make or change laws.
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The CFO and Firearms tech division is spreading "hearsay" and "Conjecture" What's funny is if you ask the RCMP about this they will give you a robotic standard response. Which is that you need a business license. However that contradicts their very own stance and the laws itself.
However if you call the CFO federal line. They will inform you that you can make your own firearms for person use. I called many times and got the same response every time as well I have it on recording..
This is the charge they quote when asking. "Weapons trafficking
99 (1) Every person commits an offence who
(a) manufactures or transfers, whether or not for consideration, or
(b) offers to do anything referred to in paragraph (a) in respect of
a prohibited firearm, a restricted firearm, a non-restricted firearm, a prohibited weapon, a restricted weapon, a prohibited device, any ammunition or any prohibited ammunition knowing that the person is not authorized to do so under the Firearms Act or any other Act of Parliament or any regulations made under any Act of Parliament."
Now we all know trafficking and what's involved in that and how this clearly doesn't correlate. Furthermore there is nowhere in the Firearms Act or any other Act of Parliament or any regulations made under any Act of Parliament that even allows a business to manufacture restricted firearms
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some more to add.. again this was allowed before. and its been made clear that the RCMP can't just change the law especially quietly.
Regarding bill C21.
"National "freeze" on handguns A national freeze on the sale, purchase or transfer of handguns by individuals within Canada, and bringing newly-acquired handguns into Canada came into force by regulations on October 21, 2022.Individuals can continue to possess and use their registered handguns and can sell or transfer their registered handguns to exempted individuals or businesses. Requests submitted by individuals before October 21, 2022 to transfer a handgun within Canada will continue to be processed."
Bill C21 puts a freeze on the Sale, Purchase or transfer of handguns.
So naturally you are still allowed to register firearms that you make at home.
you'll notice on form RCMP 5624 that there's a option for handguns "HG"
And if you look at the old version of the forum it said "RCMP GRC 5624e (2018-01-08) "
"A - Type of Acquisition Box 1Check only one box. "Newly manufactured" means a firearm that you have built or made. It does not mean a firearm that you have newly purchased from a firearms manufacturing or retail sales business. If you check "Other", print the details of your possession of the firearm in the space provided. If more explanation is needed, provide it on a separate sheet of paper, add your name and firearms licence number to the top of the sheet and attach the sheet to your application."
In today's version of the form it has the option for "Other" which is what one would use for homemade firearms. As well as "HG" for handguns.
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