Canadian Bar Association Demands "No Exception" To Male Transfers to Women's prisons

VioletRemi

The parts about "no exceptions" and "ignoring safety concerns" are the most crazy. They are basically saying "even if it is just someone right now just self-identified - and who is very dangerous to women, ignore that and put women at risk".

Also, why they have such fixation on "do not record sex of inmates at all" - but what about healthcare at least? Not speaking about statistics, etc...

VioletRemi

That's insanity. Why do they hate women so much?

Archieved version: https://archive.is/ybTMU

VioletRemi

10 minutes is not 2 seconds.

just because they "identify" as women or "pass as" women on the outside.

They don't identify as women. In most cases they do not even know that they have such condition. And you will never know - unless they say it to you.

Why everything is an agenda to you?

And anyways, in other your answers (including ones to me) you shown complete ignorance and no knowledge about situation, yet insisted on calling those people with slurs and asking to imprison or kill them alltogether, even thought they are an extremely minority among people, who you would never even know about their condition if they will not say it to you, with just few cases per tens of millions of people. Yet, you hate them for some reason and speak only about them, instead of focusing on the real argumen of "manly looking men declaring to be women".

It is not a discussion sub. I'll stop responding to you from now on.

VioletRemi

Ovotesticular DSD and PMDS, for example.

Infertile women have ovaries, and no testes.

Not all have ovaries or were born with ovaries.

If they meet with a doctor, a few tests, and boom, they learn they are infertile.

Even if they are fertile, and their amenorrhea comes from other way. In many cases no tests are done, just "no periods for long time" is enough.

Someone with CAIS can be treated just same way, without any extra testings.

Hermaphrodite means an organism has both male and female sex organs.

Not sex organs, but both gonads, both working gonades.

Hermaphrodite is an organism that can both father a child and give a childbirth.

Also, CAIS do not have both sex organs - they have none of sex organs. They may have male gonades, but not always. Have you even read a bit about CAIS condition?

And why are you want to call slurs an extremely small minority of people that almost no one ever will even meet? I don't understand your hatred. All you write on this site is how you hate vaccines and how you hate people with CAIS (also, there are XX females with CAIS too, who have cervixes and can give birth).

CAIS have dysfunctional testes

In most cases they are functional or they are absent completely. You hate people while being completely ignorant about who they are or their condition.

I see no reason to discuss anything anymore with you.

VioletRemi

I think this all should go to debate sub, and stopped here.

Almost of all DSD conditions have serious health issues tied with them, except few.

I'm fine with authoritarianism

It was already clear from your usage of TRA methods and being anti-science.

agenda

Reality is not an agenda. Being strongly anti-reality from "other side" is not countering anti-reality from TRA. It complementing them and proves their ideas.

Also, how are you getting 5-6 upvotes in first few seconds after posting a post?

VioletRemi

If their condition is not studied deeply, you can not claim that they are women, or that their body is developed to support ova. You don't know anything would be the conclusion.

You have no idea what you are talking about. There are DSD conditions where males have ovaries, yet they can father a child, but not childbirth. You are very confused.

CAIS can not get periods. Once they hit puberty, they will be aware of their maleness.

You do realize how many women have amenorrhea untreated? When they are asking for tests and being neglected and called just infertile without any more tests? I was called "frigid" for being a lesbian and not liking men, instead of doing any research, my mother almost died because when her periods stopped at age of 35, she just was told "it is early menopuase", while in reality it was completely different issue that could be found out by just few simple tests. Also, many other women would not have periods or would be infertile - who do not have DSD conditions. Why are you combining "intersex" conditions with infertile women and justifying one by another? I only saw such tactics from TRA so far.

I have a strong feeling that you are a male or pretty rich/privileged female, as you seems to have no idea about female anatomy and female problems with healthcare treatment we are receiving.

It's easier to call CAIS hermaphrodite

But it will be untrue and will not work for healthcare at all. This word describes completely different thing. Why you want to lie, when above you said you are doing this because "you don't want to lie"? You are contradicting yourself.

VioletRemi

I see no reason why anyone should be attacking people with complex medical condition for no reason at all, instead of helping them to bear with it. They are extremely rare condition, there can be just 1-2 of them in whole European country. Other AIS are much more common, but they aren't ambigious at all.

Plus they have nothing to do at all with all the "unambigiously males calling themselves women". Focusing on so extremely rare conditions, instead of adressing main issue - is helping gender ideology, as instead of adressing the real important points, we are adressing some almost inexistant cases which are happening so rarely and which are very ambigious and have absolutely nothing to do with the discussion. If all people in the whole world with DSD ("intersex") would call themselves transgender - they would be just 10% of transgender people in USA alone.

They have testes

Not always. Plus those testes are inner and not visible, thought. They are finding out about them only at around age of 14-16, when diagnosed with amenorrhea in more advanced countries and at age of around 25-30, when they already married and trying to find out why they are infertile. In less advanced countries they never diagnosed and never know that they have DSD condition.

Their condition is not researched too deeply, as their body is developed like it couldo support ova and it is not supporting sperm (at least in most cases, unlike other AIS conditions, where they are clearly male). Their inner organs are places on a way that female people have. It is never researched about other difference between males and females, on which side they are. Also, they were never tested if they will support ova or sperm. So we can't say for sure if they are male or female until this will be tested.

And in healthcare they are not having same risks as other males, thought not fully as females either.

a hermaphrodite at worst.

There are no human hermaphrodites and can't exist. Also it will be a slur.

VioletRemi

I am pretty sure they are already saying this. After all USA spent $800 millions in Afganistan on promoting "gender studies". While they could instead spent those money on women getting education, or on fighting poverty. Just giving those money to people would be better.

VioletRemi

I am surprised there no "get a room" comment yet ;)

VioletRemi

Yes, because she is harassing lesbians for not liking dicks, and she says that "I am lesbian, because I chose to, I liked men, but decided that I like women more and now I like only women and ignoring men" - so she is febfem bisexual. It isn't a bad thing, bad thing is that she is saying that she is lesbian and have chosen to be lesbian, so other lesbians not accepting "transbians" are just bigoted. Plus she is "non-binary and not completely woman", and that "lesbians are non-men attracted to non-men", plus she is one of the mothers of queer theory and gender identity theory. It started with John Money and few other paedophiles, but she made it more popular among academic circles.

In general she is "philosophy academic" in its fullest sense - speaking watery water about things with no clear meaning to her words, just like other such academics doing. Especially ones fully embraced "post-modernistic deconstructivism" like her. In "post-modernistic deconstructivism" there is idea that "objective reality is a lie and everyone have their own subjective truth and every of such truths is valid" - so anti-science and anti-reality.

VioletRemi

Sex offender, who lied multiple times before and was flashing genitals to women and girls 20 years ago, and now "miraclously" adopted "I am trans" narrative to get access to spaces where he can flash his half-errected penis to 6 and 9 years old girls? B-but they said this will never happen! That liers would never lie and abusers would not abuse.

I am surprised that there are people who are surprised on this accident happening and being like this.

Also, makes those antifa who harassed women protesting there to look even worse than they already did.

VioletRemi

Just made a comment right about it:

/s/GCdebatesQT/comments/8avh/_/uwpf

To "equate" there would be "best women" against "lowest category of men". Or "best women" against "30 years as retired men". And so on. As someone said - it is just unfair to women.

VioletRemi

same body height and weight

Weightlifting records.

Female 81-89 kg category: record is 293 kg total. Heaviest female weight category except "superweight".

Male 51-59 kg category: record is 294 kg total. Lightest male weight category, except "underweight".

I will just leave it here.

VioletRemi

Afaik that was a group of people, and in charge was this bloke: https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/the-transwoman-who-helped-remove

Also, a bit more on Lesbians being harassed out of Pride just recently: https://twitter.com/Women___Exist/status/1432010903512223749

https://twitter.com/GetTheLOutUK/status/1408896814569472002

But yeah, heterosexual people harassing homosexual people out of LGBT pride and news outlets and "LGB"TQ+ organisations like Stonewall or GLAAD - are praising those heterosexuals.

Those ogs completely abandoned us, tho: https://ovarit.com/o/Lesbians/27333/stonewall-mocking-lesbians-in-their-last-tweet-while-being-hypocrytical

Also this: https://twitter.com/anyabike/status/1058705133545099264

VioletRemi

Lesbians were thrown away in 2016 for "Lesbians do not do dicks", then in 2018 for "If Stonewall will continue to ignore L, then get the L out!". Since 2018 lesbians were denied voice on podium/scene.

Now they came against gay men as well.

If lesbians and gays are not welcome on Pride - then who is? Is Pride now only for transgenders, "queers" and "non-binary"? Why they have LGB then in their LGBTQ+?! Get the LGB out!

VioletRemi

Women are often blamed for misbehaviour of men. Even in Chris-chan situation there were so many posts about "his mother should raise him better". Like 39 years old man can't take on himself at all. Also why his father was not blamed for not raising him better? And so on.

And he always was disliking lesbians, so that other account is believable to be his too. Thought sad that he went woke way - it will bring only self-harm.

VioletRemi

It was big twitter thread from a person who was banned.

She was comparing reports of different years. Previously gay and lesbian were around same %, gay men were slightly more than lesbians, and transgender were very few, but today lesbians are half of gay and amount of transgender and bisexual increased by 5 times.

I only found 2020 links, but there were 2014 and other years to compare.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/329708/lgbt-identification-rises-latest-estimate.aspx

https://i.imgur.com/N2bUBN6.png

It was smth like lesbians 1.1%, gay men 1.2%, but became lesbians 0.7% and gay men 1.4%, but at the same time female transgender (transmen) increased by almost 30 times or something like that, while male transgenders (transwomen) increased only by 3-4 times.

You can try searching other similar polls. I checked 2017 and 2014 reports on that same site, they have no specification on who is who, just "LGBT raised to 4.5%".

VioletRemi

Existence of homosexual women is making her blood boil? So how is that not a homophobia? /r/LGBT is promoting and supporting homophiba (3.8k upvotes), that's why we so in need of LGB-only spaces or organizations - as LGBT+ ones are promoting anti-LGB rhetorics, ideas and actions.

VioletRemi

Last USA survey was interesting, there amount of lesbians decreased drastically (from 1.5% to 0.8%), but amount of transmen and female non-binary increased from 0.1% to something like 3-4% of population. And at the same time amount of gay men not changed.

VioletRemi

So how exactly something subjective can be objective and "since birth", when during birth you are lacking cognition capabilities to understand that subjective in the first place? Especially considering that subjective about same objective fact is different for different people.

That's not evidence that the language trait isn't natural.

But language trait is not natural. That is why every language is so different, that is why we created languages like Mathemathics or Esperanto. Language exist to communicaate better and it changes depending on what people in that place decided to use as communication - and why alphabets are so different in different language families (asian, arabic, slavic, latin, etc). Humans are not born with understanding or knowledge of languages, we are slowly learning it with our surroundings, kids who were neglected and not heard language from parents and missed classes - can't communicate and it is hard to them to learn language later in life - like those examples of kids who grew up among animals.

Weirdly I thought the were always coded female but have become more unisex these days. That's just my perception of them.

Just 200 years ago in Europe leggings were "male aristocracy" only. And even more years ago shoes with high heels were for rich men only as well. If poor man or any woman wore them - they could be punished by death.

In ancient Roman Empire - all men were wearing dresses, and pants/troucers were only for women and slaves.

Even nowadays in some ethnicities it is like that - one African tribe have tradition that men are wearing make up and dresses and dancing in front of women, so women chose who is the prettiest from them. On some Oceanic islands it is similar.

So no, it is not "always coded" and not "genetic".

VioletRemi

How can it be "by nature", if kid does not even know what is "feminine" and "masculine", or when "feminine" and "masculine" can change drastically during their lifetime?

When I was young - leggings were for men only, and women were banned from wearing them as "only for prostitutes", now men in leggings are seen as gay or weird, and it is common for women to wear them. For example.

VioletRemi

I just answered all those questions in previous posts... And you are misrepresenting text you are reading in those links. There clearly written one thing, but you automatically asuming it means more stuff than there written. It is so bizzare.

etc be female-only organs when males can have them too?

Because they are not working in CAIS and PMDS? They just either "looking like" those, or are underdeveloped versions of female reproductive organs. Their male reproductive organs are working and they can father a child, while they never can mother a child.

VioletRemi

I think it was in one of their peer reviews, which found a lot of mistakes and the fact that public is lacking any ability to check their findings. I don't think I will be able to find it, I am just reading stuff and that's it - not bookmarking it, sorry.

They said it is 6th reported case, thought.

On the other hand, maybe SRY gene is not the only thing that is determining sex of a person. However, there only 6 reported cases in 50 years from 15 billions people who lived during this time, so it is almost impossible to research...

VioletRemi