"The Dam's About To Break On The Establishment Control Of The Party"

Netweasel

It’s ~~revealing~~ revolting that Ro Khanna said this with a straight face:

"Biden has been a much better and more progressive President than I thought...”

Now, it's possible for that to be a true statement. Just how bad did he think that Biden was going to be?
Biden might have been "better and more progressive" than the incredible shitshow Ro thought Biden was going to be.

Netweasel

This same person told me she finds RFK Jr. "slimy"

Reminds me of the "Bernie makes my skin crawl" comment.

Netweasel

Quebecois Secession Vote.

Followed by the GWB interview on a plane (election day, 2000) while seated next to his brother (Jeb!), the then Governor of Florida.
GWB was asked about NBC calling Florida for Gore earlier that afternoon, GWB smirked and said "Oh, I don't think so."

Netweasel

Did you go to that section of the video that showed the fence?

Haven't seen any of the video yet. Still speaking theoretically.

Once I see the video, I can't be at a place in which I have not seen it yet. Have to cover all those angles first.

Netweasel

That is odd, and very difficult to accomplish with just wind and fire.

Some of the other stuff you're describing can be done by just wind and fire, and similar things to them have probably happened before, elsewhere.

But small pieces of metal getting hot enough to char wood without the rest of the wood charring? If that's what actually happened, that's quite odd.

Just be sure that there isn't some other piece of information left out that puts it back into the "possible by wind and fire alone" category.

Netweasel

There's a wood cross-runner on the ground,

Was the cross-runner charred or burnt?

Netweasel

it still seems odd

In a large enough sample size, you're gonna find some odd in there somewhere.

Netweasel

They're the same

CNN said that about any comparison of Trump and Biden?

Isn't that one of the signs?

Netweasel

Do they at least have external cameras, to record the pre-wreck footage of what just happened?

Netweasel

The way I've heard this, the winds were not all going the same direction all the time.
Eddies could have happened. Eddies of fire, and eddies of not-fire.

Netweasel

It clearly burned only where the cross-runners were nailed on.

It didn't look like metal runners in the image.

What were the cross runners made of? Also, were the nail heads still there?

Netweasel

And if you have evidence of things that microwaves can do, but fire and wind cannot, go with that.

Adding in things that wind and fire can do just muddies your evidence. Like the nails. I had hopes for the nails.
Fire and wind would have a tough time getting a single unconnected nail hot enough to char wood without the fire and wind charring the wood at the same time.

But when you add in metal fencing connecting the nails, you've just built a wood burning kit for the fire to play with.
Remember wood burning kits? Basically a soldering iron to burn your initials into a plank with? You get metal hot enough and you can char wood with it.

Netweasel

Now look at the massive Banyan tree in the video....That's 360 degrees of intense fire...

Wait... what happened to the house? Was there not a 360 degree shot of lack of fire damage around it?

Netweasel

Try it this way: Suppose you have magic powers to control what the wind does, let's call it AirBending.
But only during intense fires.

Could you, through control of the air in a fire, make these effects happen?

Could you swirl a swath of cooler air around a favorite Banyan tree to save it while all around it burns? Yes.
Could you make it so that one quadrant of a car just melts but the opposite corner is still like new? Yes.
Could you make this stack of tires erupt in flame while another stack three feet away doesn't? Yes.

All that you could theoretically do through magic control of the winds, Wind and Fire is capable of doing, at least once.

Could you make a single nail in a tree burn part of a tree at point of contact, without harming the rest of the tree? Don't think so.
[Edit: you could, if you had some other metal attached to the nail that you could heat up instead of heating the nail directly.]
Could you, shown a pile of identical-looking tires, make only the ones containing steel belts burn? Don't think so either.

If that kind of thing happened, I would suggest focusing on those things that Wind And Fire in combination cannot do.
If you could do it through AirBending, it's possible that Wind and Fire in combination really did it.

Netweasel

It clearly burned only where the cross-runners were nailed on.

Metal conducts heat better than air. And melts at a much higher point than the flash point of wood.
The metal runners could have heated up the wood at point of contact, if the runners were still attached at the time.

Unconnected nails in wood burning the wood (without the rest of the wood burning) would need a different cause.

Netweasel

What remains suspicious are homes reduced to ash while the trees surrounding them retained their needles and small branches. Or the blue umbrellas fully intact next to the charred remains of the building. Or the intact and unmarked wood landing adjacent to the burned shell of the mobile home.

With enough wind in enough different directions, and with enough data available to pick and choose specific fire weirdnesses...
It's not really that suspicious. After almost any major hurricane, reporters will go and find that one weird thing the hurricane did or didn't do.

Demolished doublewide no longer attached to untouched deck? Check. Demolished deck no longer attached to untouched doublewide? Check.

How much of that stuff didn't happen?

Netweasel

There was a wind from behind, and the rear bumper looked untouched, but it also likely fed the fire that engulfed the rest.

Do you think that a gale force wind would have made it much worse?

Netweasel

What remains suspicious are homes reduced to ash while the trees surrounding them retained their needles and small branches

Fire and wind combined does weird things, but it does not usually do that. There's usually a path. Most likely, either someone torched their own home for the insurance money and the fire didn't get there, or you saw selective footage that did not show how the fire got to the home in question. The fire could have gone in one slim finger to the house, torched it and stopped. Then the film shows a 350 degree angle around the house of unburned trees.

Huge wildfires have done stranger things. Such as embers reaching a house from above and creating a firenado.

Netweasel

I thought more about this as it relates to the fence burning from the nails inside. Plausable...

It would also depend upon where the nails were. Occasionally there would be a nail not attached to the metal part of the fence, to hang something on. Did those nails (not attached to anything) also burn the posts? If the effect was electrical from the metal fence, those would not have burned.

If there were such a thing as a Carrington Gun, and if it were to have been used, either all the nails would have burned the posts, or just the nails at right angles to the direction of the alleged beam. Is there evidence of either of those things?

...except the power in Lahana had been cut.

Couldn't that part have happened before power was cut?

(Yes, I'm examining from both sides at once)

Netweasel

It could have been worse...

They could have found the "specific amino-acid sequence that exists only in the vaccine-induced spike protein" in some of the unvaccinated....

Netweasel

Years ago I lost a Porsche to an engine fire.

The way the conversation is going, I have to ask....
How windy was it during the Porsche fire?

Netweasel

I had 50 feet of fence with burns around the staples in the posts when a power line fell on them during a thunderstorm.

"Burns around the staples" sounds like something more electrical than fire related....

I haven't looked at the "fence posts that burned from the nails out" footage, but that one, if as described, would seem to be difficult to achieve by fire alone. Maybe it's not quite as described, but if it is....

Netweasel

Your description sounds like a pinpoint Carrington Event.

Instead of telegraph wires, steel belted radials.

Netweasel

I suspect there was something in the results they wanted to hide.

Hmm. What could have been in the results? There aren't that many things possible, I would think.
It seems a really tight focus of questioning.

We do not know the results, but in theory they do.

Which of the possible results would they want to hide, and which would they not want to hide?

Netweasel

Most importantly, Thurmond most certainly did not vote for the Civil Rights Act.

Does he still hold the record for Longest Filibuster? IIRC, his record was against the Civil Rights Act.....

Netweasel