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“Historically, the most terrible things - war, genocide, and slavery - have resulted not from disobedience, but from obedience.” - Howard Zinn(i.redd.it)

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Chipit 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun 4 years ago

To be more correct, it resulted from government.

The less of it we have, the better. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have.

poop13 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun 4 years ago

So you'll be denying the stimulus check right?

Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 4 years ago

The biggest killer of people in the 20th century was government.

AbeFroman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 4 years ago

So you're accepting the check. Got it.

Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 4 years ago

Oh, no. I'll be returning it to the treasury at once.

sproketboy 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun 4 years ago

Historically, the most terrible things - war, genocide, and slavery - have resulted not from disobedience, but from Socialism. FTFA

magnora7[S] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun 4 years ago

From authoritarian governments, is more apt. I don't care what ideology they are, it's the controlling authoritarian ones that do the most damage. Communism is just one of many routes to this authoritarianism. But there is such a thing as grassroots socialism. Not all socialism is authoritarian... Nor is all capitalism authoritarian... just the versions where power takes control and acts in an authoritarian manner

Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 4 years ago

So, yeah for the corportocracy!

useless_aether 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 4 years ago

this guy is a bloody socialist! argh! <foams at mouth>

like, duh. how can any of these things come from disobedience?? he is not a brilliant man!!

and this is his insight after the nuremberg trials, where all the accused shifted the blame up on the chain of command?! pitiful!

magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun 4 years ago

he's anti-authoritarianism

useless_aether 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 4 years ago

can there be socialism without a state?

magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun 4 years ago

Yes, it's called grassroots socialism. Aka not top-down enforced, but arising from libertarian freedom and natural cooperation and values of the everyday people.

Any system people have to be forced in to is already authoritarianism, imo. I do not care for any form of authoritarianism.

useless_aether 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 4 years ago

i am not sure i like the 'socialism' in the name, but if all social interactions are voluntary, so be it.

[deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 4 years ago

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magnora7[S,A] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 4 years ago

You've been banned for repeatedly dragging discussion down the pyramid of debate. https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/comments/j1/the_saiditnet_terms_and_content_policy/