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[–]restlessincanada 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

what about the eight years the azov battalion spent shelling eastern ukraine?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

That group deserves further attention because they were mainly 300, or 600 fascists who were protesting, fighting, and organizing in Ukraine in 2014, remnants of which continued thereafter. Their comander was elected to one of the seats in Parliament in 2014. They were initially helpful to Ukraine in 2014, but thereafter have splintered into other groups, the largest of which is perhaps 3000 mainly civilian supporters. They don't represent 99% of the 44 million Ukrainians. They've never had any power to speak of. Putin and his supporters want us to think that the existence of this fringe group is a sufficient excuse for the invasion of Ukraine and the slaughter of its civilians.

[–]restlessincanada 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

do you really think that the azov battalion could shell eastern ukraine for eight years without the support of the ukrainian government? the azov battalion is a part of the ukranian millitary and zelensky just banned all political oppostion except for svoboda and right sector. this media campaign is not about protecting democracy in ukraine (which never existed) or protecting ukrainians from the ravages of war (which the media has ignored for eight years) its about protecting natos continued expansion into eastern europe and natos never ending quest for complete and world wide military dominance.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, a few wackos were part of the armed forces, and were trying to expel Russians from the East - it was their job. The Russians shouldn't have been bombing the eastern region to rubble. There are many videos of the Russian abuses, and the necessary responses from Ukraine armed forces.