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HiddenFox 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun 2 years ago

Great write up of the facts. Thank you.

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You're welcome!

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u/d3rr, headers ain't displaying correctly for some reason.

Edit: I found a work-around.

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[deleted] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun 2 years ago

Who did that and why?

u/AXXA, do you know what's going on?

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ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun 2 years ago

He was obviously imprisoned solely for offending the politically correct judge by using female pronouns.

I'm not sure that that's a jailable offence.

The vancouver sun articles say that he was jailed for contempt of court after repeatedly violating the court order not to identify his wife, child and healthcare providers.

This makes more sense, since you can get jailed for contempt of court.

JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun 2 years ago

I'm not sure that that's a jailable offence.

It is in Canada, whether they've done so or not - so far. They passed the stupid law for a reason.

ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 2 years ago

They passed the stupid law for a reason.

The "stupid" law being C-16?

The adding of "gender identity or expression" to identifiable groups protected from discrimination, to identifiable groups that can be the target of hate speech, and to the criminal code allowing a judge to consider hate crimes against them when sentencing?

How is that stupid? The exact same law protects other groups without causing a breakdown in society.

wristaction 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun 2 years ago

...without causing a breakdown in society.

I mean, if we outright banned leftist parties, that wouldn't cause a breakdown in society. We ought to try it.

JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun 2 years ago

We have laws for bullying, harassment, and crimes. Use those.

All laws that are to suppress "hate" are political bullshit, just as "equality" is bullshit when all everyone wants is consistent fairness.

People can commit of crimes for all kinds of motivational reasons, including human emotions like love and hate - but we can never read other people's minds.

If someone robs an old Black lesbian they may do it for hate or simply because she's an easy target. Nail them for the crime, not the motive or whatever bullshit politicians want to skew it with.

The exact same law protects other groups without causing a breakdown in society.

Proof?

Now who's being stupid?

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ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun 2 years ago

Only left-wing media outlets say he identified his wife, child, etc.

You claim that the Vancouver Sun is "left wing"?

What's your basis for that claim?

and only right-wing media outlets say he was jailed just for pronoun usage.

Mass resisitance, breitbard and the federalist?

It's a bit of a stretch to lump them in with media outlets isn't it? Surely we shouldn't be comparing the fake news industry with journalism?

but I only found evidence of him violating the pronoun mandate.

He didn't give the interviews reported on by the vancouver sun?

Furthermore, the left-wing media outlets never provide sources for their claims; I can't just trust them without evidence.

Jesus mate. You just linked to fucking breitbart.

It's hard to find the original videos, since they're banned from big tech for "hate speech," so all I have to work with is one clip I found on YouTube (that probably won't be there for long). There are longer interviews somewhere, but I didn't find them.

Okay. Most plausibly he did both. Gave an interview in which he misgendered his child. To be fair it wouldn't be know to the court if he misgendered his child in private, so that he breached that part of the court order implies that he breached the bit about talking publicly about it.

Even if he broke that part of the order too: it doesn't warrant six months in literal prison, unless he or someone else was sending them death threats —

If the court tells you to do something, and you don't, the punishment has to ramp up pretty quickly. If you keep asking people to comply, it wastes the court's time, and makes a mockery of the legal system if ignoring it is a viable option. You can be jailed indefinitely for contempt in the US. All you have to do to avoid literal prison is do what the judge says while you appeal.

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wristaction 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun 2 years ago

Relax. "Misgendering" isn't a thing.

adultmanhwa 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun 2 years ago

this is why 'the neo left' deserve hatred

Noam_ChomskyPirate Party 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun 2 years ago

I'm imagining this former daughter dressing like a lumber jack.

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jailed after . . . doesn't necessarily mean that is why. He was in contempt of court, which means he pissed off the judge. Judges have too much power IMO, they can put you in jail just if they feel like it.