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BLM and USA elections(files.catbox.moe)

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suckitreddit 15 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 2 fun 3 years ago

And Susan Rosenberg, a terrorist who got help from Bill Clinton, is a part of BLM. Strange!

UltimaThule 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun 3 years ago

"Rosenberg was born into a middle-class Jewish family in Manhattan"

Pure coincidence goy

LeolaLawbaugh 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 3 years ago

Every

christnmusicreleasesIndependent 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun 3 years ago

BLACK LESBIANS MATTER

Jesus 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun 3 years ago

Trump is a terrorist too. He supports the mastermind behind 9/11; Netanyahu, Lowy, Lauder, Eisenberg, Silverstein and the Likud.

Always remember that because the Likud will use the left to scare people i to the arma of the Likudniks.

72ndGender 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun 3 years ago

Regardless of your opinion on the validity (more invalidity) of BLM, there is absolutely zero doubt that they are used as a media prop. It sells AND it manipulates election. My opinion is that it will do more harm than good. This BLM bullshit is red pilling a lot of normies I know.

King_Brutus 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun 3 years ago

Shouldn't they understand that they lost the last election in no small part because the black population decided to go full freak out?

[deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 3 years ago

that was part of why?

King_Brutus 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun 3 years ago

Can you rephrase your question?

[deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 3 years ago

It's really true that the 2016 election outcome was probably more republican because the black population decided to "go full freak out"? What happened? I was not paying much attention to those things at the time.

Turnaround 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun 3 years ago

"It's about police brutality!" ...

King_Brutus 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun 3 years ago

Now it's "gibs me repayrayshuns!"

Jesus 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun 3 years ago

The elections are a charade anyway. Kushner slept in Netanyahu's bed as a kid.

Trump hates the contitution and everything it stands for. A neo-Hamiltonian Latitudinarian constructionist he is and has always been.

BLM is thr least of our problems.

King_Brutus 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun 3 years ago

What are you on about now

Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 3 years ago

You know what I'm on about. ZioCons control the US.

MarquisBoniface 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 3 years ago

Checkout "flat earth" trends, which line right up with the beginning of "wokeness"

https://i.imgur.com/Pr8egnm.png

I personally believe that "flat earthers" are an astroturfed psyop the same way that UFO narratives, "Elvis isn't actually dead", and moon landing denier groups are

http://archive.vn/0onUQ

Mirage Men: UFO researcher Mark Pilkington on deception and psychological warfare

[deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 3 years ago

Those graphs are fascinating.

which line right up with the beginning of "wokeness"

Interesting. What do you make of them occurring at the same time?

MarquisBoniface 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 3 years ago

Interesting. What do you make of them occurring at the same time?

So this is a really long conversation because it goes into both the subject of the historical "flat earth" meme, and modern disinformation nonsense.

An issue is that the "flat earth" meme wasn't real in the first place, it was an insult used during Christian polemics to insult the Catholic church by promoting a strawman attack of the middle-ages beliefs:

https://www.historytoday.com/archive/inventing-flat-earth

Inventing the Flat Earth

Columbus braved superstition and ignorance by sailing across the Atlantic when his contemporaries thought he would fall off the edge. So runs the legend, but Jeffrey Russell reveals here how the Middle Ages were maligned by the creative fiction of subsequent generations.

So I'd say that a small amount of guillable people who believe certain conspiracies get sheep-dogged into taking such things seriously in the same way some people get coaxed into "terrorism" or cults by handlers occuring at the same time as "Woke" trends makes perfect sense. Both are unnatural, inorganic trends pushed by organized groups for their own purposes, yet have similar purposes in inciting intra-society divisions and mistrust in other civilians.

"Woke" nonsense functions as a distraction from anti-government criticism by pushing content that is known to be divisive. Equivalent bullshit is pushed in other states all the time, accusing a majority group of oppressing a minority and inciting the minority to become radicalized in percieved self defense (Uyghurs in China, Hazara in Afghanistan, Hmong in Vietnam). "Woke" 2 decades ago used to mean someone who was a conspiracy theorist, with being "awake" meaning "redpilled" or similar terms, it only became a "muh social justice" thing within the past few years. So the "Woke" trend gets appropriated/comandeered at the same time that the remnants of anti-establishment critiques get targeted with retarded shills pushing flat Earth nonsense.

Like Cass Sunstein would want such groups to be associated with "9/11 truthers":

http://archive.ph/4QnVj

Cass Sunstein has long been one of Barack Obama's closest confidants. Often mentioned as a likely Obama nominee to the Supreme Court, Sunstein is currently Obama's head of the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs where, among other things, he is responsible for "overseeing policies relating to privacy, information quality, and statistical programs." In 2008, while at Harvard Law School, Sunstein co-wrote a truly pernicious paper proposing that the U.S. Government employ teams of covert agents and pseudo-"independent" advocates to "cognitively infiltrate" online groups and websites -- as well as other activist groups -- which advocate views that Sunstein deems "false conspiracy theories" about the Government. This would be designed to increase citizens' faith in government officials and undermine the credibility of conspiracists. The paper's abstract can be read, and the full paper downloaded, here.

Outside of discrediting a target via subversion (cointerintel) and influencing the public opinion that way (see older Wikipedia pages on public opinion influence and the CIA), such astroturfed stunts seem to be commonly used today for galvanizing a response like a tech crackdown, or a rapid public opinion shift, based on the pretext of "your fellow citizens are so dumb they are being brainwashed/manipulated by __, and actually believe __"

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=CIA_influence_on_public_opinion&oldid=201209552#

Think of how the public opinion would have shifted if the CIA executed it's false flag with those Cuban migrants and blamed it on Castro.

That's what groups like the Daily Beast do with these fake Antivax ads, the intent is to galvanize support for censorship crackdowns:

http://archive.li/2OoxK

Google and Twitter Approved Our BS Anti-Vaxx Ads

Google and Twitter allowed ads saying “Don’t get vaccinated” and “Vaccines aren’t safe.”

Blake Montgomery

Updated 11.08.19

That's essentially what is done with "Russian bots" and voters, to freak them out and manipulate them into hysteria:

How New York Times’ Scott Shane covered for architects of a shocking “false flag” election campaign in Alabama

The NY Times national security reporter held news of a massive voter manipulation campaign while pumping up the political operatives behind it as ace Russian disinformation detectives. By Dan Cohen

Once you understand the patterns, you'll see why these "Chinese bots" are likely astroturfed/fake (ie not paid by the CCP in China, but rather paid by our own intelligence agencies)

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/gyzv9x/china-used-twitter-porn-bots-to-spread-disinformation-about-the-hong-kong-protests

[deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 3 years ago

This is fascinating, and a lot to wrap one's head around. I feel this deserves it's own post... maybe consider crossposting this comment to s/conspiracy or /s/psyops or something.

So your overall take is that both the flat-earth stuff and the "woke" stuff is a psy-op to distract from something or shift opinion to achieve a particular objective? What was the aim of releasing this psy-op stuff at that specific time?

"Woke" nonsense functions as a distraction from anti-government criticism by pushing content that is known to be divisive.

specific point: why do the "POC" "BIPOC" "BAME" etc anti-white group thing then? Why not pit those groups against each other too as part of the divisiveness strategy?

MarquisBoniface 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 3 years ago

Inciting divisions requires creating and maintaining a fanatical siege mentality, which then cascades into more and more unproductive conflict

For a group text feel under siege there needs to be a large potential power differential

Let's use minority ethnic groups of Black Americans and Hispanic Americans as an example

Let's assume that within a state, one of them is more under attack (murders, etc) by the other than with Whites

The problem is Whites still have a large percieved power differential based on population size, so that unrest between the two communities can be redirected to some vague general anti White politics cal sentiment

On a different note I'll cite afghanistan, Pashtun/Taliban power, and minorities like Hazara

So the Taliban are actually more anti ISIS than the Afghan coalition government

Yet when ISIS goes into coalition territory and horrifically slaughters a minority group, that sentiment can be redirected against the Taliban

http://archive.ph/pxj8D

With Kabul wedding attack, Isis aims to erode Taliban supremacy This article is more than 3 months old

As the US and Taliban negotiate peace, Isis sees a chance to sow fresh chaos in Afghanistan

Even by the bloody standards of Afghanistan, it was a brutal attack: a suicide bomber at a wedding celebration, detonating his device as children danced and the happy couple completed their marriage rituals. In an instant more than 60 of the 1,000 guests were dead, hundreds injured.

Few events are so joyous and optimistic as a wedding. So why would a terrorist group – even one as brutal as Islamic State, which has claimed responsibility – want to attack one?

...The victims of Sunday’s attack were from Afghanistan’s marginalised Hazara minority and Shia. The aim was slightly different though. A civil war is already under way, and there is no need to provoke a fresh one. Instead, the attack on the wedding underlined the inability of the Afghan government to protect its own citizens, prompting fear and anger and helping to ensure that any efforts to stabilise the country come to nothing. We can expect more attacks, as savage and shocking, if peace talks advance any further.

That anger redirection is exactly what happened in Afghanistan

A horrific May 12 attack on a maternity ward in a Kabul hospital had exposed a growing disconnect in US-Afghanistan relations.

For Afghans, the attack was the last straw following a surge in militant violence in previous weeks, with much of their anger directed at the Taliban. National Security Adviser Hamdullah Mohib tweeted that if the Taliban "cannot control the violence … there seems little point in continuing to engage Taliban in 'peace talks'." President Ashraf Ghani announced Afghan forces were shifting from a defensive to an offensive position against the Taliban. And Kabul suggested the Taliban was complicit in the attack.

Despite isis seeing the Taliban, rather than coalition government, as their primary obstacle to power in the remote regions

The Taliban reportedly just beat ISIS so badly that more than 200 fighters surrendered to the Afghan government Daniel Brown and Reuters Aug 1, 2018, 11:22 AM

maga_espada 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 3 years ago

Wow that's amazing. Definitive proof that googlers are against elections.

Zahn 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun 3 years ago

That's not what the graph says, are you just posting dumb comments for attention?

King_Brutus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 3 years ago

But it's totally not being influenced by any outside party guys, it's completely grassroots! WINK WINK