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[–]Hematomato 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It is so because it is so.

It is so because we can measure it. Sea levels have risen about 8 inches since 1900. That's not an ideology. It's an observation.

The sea level rise propaganda claims that catastrophic sea level rise will happen in the near future, and that is just not true.

It all just depends on how you define "catastrophic" and how you define "near future."

Miami will be suddenly submerged in 2028? No. Ridiculous.

The Maldives won't have any natural land above water by 2150? Yeah, probably.

[–]Canbot 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

It all just depends on how you define "catastrophic" and how you define "near future."

That's a funny game called "moving the goal posts". They define it as one thing to demand immediate and drastic action, then redefine it when it is time to show the facts. The fact is that there is nothing alarming about it. So anyone who is alarmed has been greatly misinformed. Bamboozled.

Sea levels have risen about 8 inches since 1900

Oh rly? According to NOAA it is 1 foot in the last 100 and 6 inches of that have been in the last 30 years. They go on to claim another foot in the next 30 years. This will not happen. When it doesn't happen they will move the goal posts and erase all evidence that they made these claims. And people like you will continue claiming that they are the experts and anyone who does not believe them is (enter every slander and insult). The "authorities" are liars. They claimed that New York would already be under water. They claimed that the Arctic ocean would be ice free by now.

"Hur dur global warming exists" is not a valid excuse. It does not excuse their lies. It does not justify continuing to believe them and demand that everyone believe them. It absolutely does not justify drastic and harmful government policies, including those that simply cost a lot of money.

Global warming is not an existential threat, it is an inconvenience at best. The institutions that we used to rely on to give us the facts have been corrupted and turned against us to implement horribly destructive programs that benefit the oligarchs at the expense of everyone else. Controlling CO2 will not slow down global warming in any meaningful way.

[–]Hematomato 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

My understanding of climate change isn't based on "them" or "their motives" or "who is and isn't an expert."

It's based on reading data. A combination of reading both the scientific publications directly and reading sources I trust to summarize papers without partisan editorializing.

Anthropogenic climate change is happening. It's real. The planet is warming and the oceans are rising.

It's also quite slow on the timeline of a single human life. It's not something that "hasn't happened but is going to." It's been happening for centuries and it will continue to happen, so slowly that any given individual person can barely notice it.

It's also global, and therefore our system of national governments is probably profoundly helpless to stop it.

[–]Questionable[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"My understanding of climate change isn't based on 'them' or 'their motives' or 'who is and isn't an expert.' It's based on reading data. A combination of reading both the scientific publications directly and reading sources I trust to summarize papers without partisan editorializing."