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LIthium mining for electric vehicles is incredibly destructive to the environment and about as far from “green” as you can imagine(wattsupwiththat.com)

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BISH 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun 1 year ago

Pretty soon this argument will be used so they can eliminate this, too.

Petroleum is the 2nd most abundant fluid liquid on the planet. It's not a fossil fuel, as it exists miles below the deepest fossil discoveries ever.

Petroleum a byproduct of natural processes deep under the surface of the planet.

Petroleum is not scarce. Capped oil wells refill after a few years. There's plenty of evidence for this. But this will affect the profits of the oiligarchs, so this info is ignored.

We need to change the parameters of the energy debate, and include the actual facts. -BISH

catfishrising 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 1 year ago

Holy shit, you're messed up in the head.

NuclearBadger 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun 1 year ago

Sorry what about his statement is messed up?

chickenz 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 1 year ago

are we running out of water?

https://youtu.be/m-aqWZFCOiY

chickenz 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 1 year ago

the oil crisis exists

oil irreversible damaging earth now.

https://youtu.be/dw1fiXc6Qs0

http://twitter.com/juststopoil

BISH 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun 1 year ago

You have been misinformed.

Edit: Go and get your boosters, and rid us of your foolishness.

chickenz 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 1 year ago

fuck off fagtard

BISH 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun 1 year ago

fuck off fagtard

Tattoo that on your forehead.

Edit:

Ya BISH

aaarrgh 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun 1 year ago

the boys and girls of the green movement are too stupid to get that.

chickenz 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 1 year ago

want to kill every living creature in all oceans worldwide?

use correxit, because it kills.

https://youtu.be/yjhOE624Jvo

BISH 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun 1 year ago

want to kill every living creature in all oceans worldwide? use correxit, because it kills.

Found the wild-eyed wailing BISH.

catfishrising 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 1 year ago

Yes, everyone knows that. And battery makers are working hard to find greener, cheaper alternatives. So in a few years lithium may be gone, replaced with silicon, magnesium, or aluminum.

HiddenFox 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun 1 year ago

Hydrogen is the future. All the lithium on the planet would only produce 2 billion vehicles and that would leave nothing for anything else. While that sounds like a lot, that's only enough vehicles for half a generation of people.

Silicon, magnesium, and aluminum can work but will never be as effective/efficient. (Unless some sic-fi tech comes along. Possible but unlikely.) Also you have some of the same issues with mining and production as you do lithium.

If we can find a safe way to store Hydrogen then the problem is all but solved. Even many existing deiseal engines could be converted to Hydrogen. (and I think gas too but not 100% sure.)

[deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun 1 year ago

(and I think gas too but not 100% sure.)

Indeed they can! This bad boy was a bi-fuel hydrogen/gasoline all the way back in 2003.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_RX-8_Hydrogen_RE

Hydrogen is the future.

It sure is

catfishrising 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 1 year ago

The problem with hydrogen is that you'd have to build a fuckton of infrastructure for it.

[deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 1 year ago

Sodium... China is already tiptoeing this kind of batteries for almost four months now.

We will get sodium-cells. If German engineers (e.g.) support it or not.

Solid state cells are waiting in the high-end segment. These will stay away from mass-markets for at least a decade, though.

Every other idea, I know of, needs a lot more tinkering and brainpower beforehand. Or is kept secret.

Anman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 1 year ago

I used to trade lithium mining stocks when they were all the rage.

I don't think it is that bad. Many low tier miners do take a hack and slash approach. Either way, its definitely not green. A single mining vehicle uses more power than localised renewable power could ever provide. It's dumb.