ADL Adds 13/52 as a ‘Numeric Hate Symbol’

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[–]magnora7 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (37 children)

Who cares. Stop giving the ADL a microphone for their bullcrap

[–]HeyImSancho[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

The worst part of your awesome presence here, and your worry for what I post, or others, is that as you know, the new posts, and a lot of stuff is completely taken over by ice_posidien, and what they post. I literally don't care, or have a problem with their stuff, but it does make it hard to find the kind of threads I'm interested in....

I don't see you bitching about their posts, as I know, as you know as a site owner, there clicks make the website stats go up......... Yet, here you are in my thread with your driveling shit spewing forth from ignorance, or is it an agenda??? Pfft.

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

but it does make it hard to find the kind of threads I'm interested in....

Use the "mute sub" button under any post of theirs. Problem solved. I am actually constantly talking with their admins about posts there.

I don't know why you want to give the ADL a platform though, when you claim to be against it, and why you react so strongly to anyone who says not to give them more publicity. I thought we're both on the same team of not liking the ADL?

[–]HeyImSancho[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I don't know why you want to give the ADL a platform though, when you claim to be against it, and why you react so strongly to anyone who says not to give them more publicity. I thought we're both on the same team of not liking the ADL?

I really try on this site to be respectful, If I see a post, or a sub I don't like, unless I think I can add anything to it, I leave it alone. If there's a thread that I don't like, but I participate in as an opposing viewpoint, I try to make a legitimate argument as to why I don't agree.

Yet, I see on this site, all to often, 'one offs', or 'quiffs' that amount to nothing more than a disparaging comment; without anything backing it up. Why do that, what's the point? Make an argument that's worthy. Anyone can post, but apparently not many can follow through with their real thoughts, and why it seems.

You say, I'm promoting the ADL by making their Orwellian decries known on Saidit... So, my 2 questions to you: Considering many people are clueless to the ADL, or what it even is, and the power they yield, what is accomplished by ignoring an institution that carries serious weight in the government, works to label, and list innocent hard working people as haters by default?

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Where should our focus be?

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    [–]HeyImSancho[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    He is not focusing you.

    The problem is here is the viewpoint of "ignore the troll(ADL), don't give it attention" VS "make fun of the troll(ADL)".

    I think both of them with its values.

    The moment magnora came in, and quiffed a comment without much reason is the moment I engaged, and will always engage. The ADL is the driving force in many aspects of reshaping the cultural flow, and trends of the USA, and others. Just like the Deep State, or the Authoritarian Tyrants, the ADL doesn't usually endorse, 'hey this is our splendid idea alone that's gonna throw a real fucking wrench in how your family, and you are allowed to live your lives'... Just doesn't happen.

    [–]magnora7 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    I just think we should ignore things that deserve to be ignored, that's all. The ADLs opinion only matters because people give it attention. I think ignoring it is the best way to disempower these people. They feed off your outrage and use it to promote themselves. But in reality they're just a group of people saying something. We can ignore them completely, they have no real power.

    [–]HeyImSancho[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    they have no real power.

    Okay?! LOL

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      [–]HeyImSancho[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      thx for letting me know. I wonder as a community, is there any discussion, or agreed upon direction of the site? Like,'hey, I think this will make a change in the world for the better, or hey, so, and so thought of this, we should work towards that?'

      [–]bald-janitor 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Lol

      [–]HeyImSancho[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

      What a productive comment! Please describe what I should post, and what all should post, so as to not offend you......

      On a more real note, don't be a cunt, and if you don't have anything productive to post, then stay the fuck out.

      [–]magnora7 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

      don't be a cunt

      I merely voiced an opinion about not giving the ADL more publicity.

      [–]HeyImSancho[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

      Your opinion in my opinion, is wrong. Do we not shine a light in the dark to see? In my opinion, until the boogiemen controlling our thoughts, and actions, and hearts is shown for what they are, then how can anything change? I think the Jews, and anyone else, any group should be able to have associations in their favor for there own community, but one that acts to censor other communities through govt approved sanctioning, should be seen, and known for what they do.

      [–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

      That's true I think, but it's also true if most people don't care about an irrelevant boogeyman in the first place, putting the spotlight only gives it more relevance, not less.

      [–]HeyImSancho[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

      The organization is behind numerous campaigns to reshape the USA, and has been since it's creation; which was due to needing to cover up what a Jewish factory owner did to a little girl. How is it that ignoring them will make the narratives, and programs they endorse, and create go away? I've never seen anything that states: "Brought to you by your friends at the ADL", but that's just me.

      [–]magnora7 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

      I guess, I'm not sure how much power they actually have anymore since they're clearly off their rocker the last decade or so

      [–]HeyImSancho[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      Honestly, whatever, I engaged because I do expect decent interaction when interacted with. That's just me, and yeah, I'll defend my position until I'm proven wrong, or bat shit crazy; one, or the other ;-) hahaha

      Here, I was doing some reading, and found this interesting. https://www.adl.org/news/press-releases/adl-to-build-silicon-valley-center-to-monitor-fight-cyberhate-omidyar-network-2

      QUOTE: "ADL’s center on cyberhate, technology, and society will pioneer new strategies in the fight against online abuse, drawing from ADL’s three decades of expertise monitoring, tracking, and combating hate on the public and private web. *It will author reports and data; **provide insights to government and policy makers; and expose and stop specific cases of online harassment and cyberbullying."*

      QUOTE: "Since 1985, ADL has been leader in fighting hate online with a dedicated team tracking online hate speech and hate groups, reporting publicly on trends and tools to fight online hate, sharing insights and data with law enforcement, assisting Jewish institutions with their security needs, coordinating with online stakeholders and helping more than 20,000 individuals face down threats. ADL also established best practices for addressing cyberhate that have been *guiding** the biggest Internet and media companies for years."*

      When they're writing reports, advising law makers, and 'guiding' silicon valley, it makes it hard for me to ignore that.

      [–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      provide insights to government and policy makers

      I just wonder how many they actually advise. If it's like 3 people or if it's actually a lot

      have been guiding* the biggest Internet and media companies for years."

      If that's true instead of them just gloating, then that's interesting. I don't understand the mechanism by which they would have influence over these companies though

      [–]HeyImSancho[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      I just wonder how many they actually advise. If it's like 3 people or if it's actually a lot

      Perhaps some of these folks? https://prepareforchange.net/2018/06/22/89-of-our-senators-and-congress-hold-dual-citizenship-citizenship-with-israel/

      We could include our president in with that group above, as his son in law is one of the major players with IDF fundraising. We could include all of the Demonrats who limp-dickedly impeached Trump.

      If that's true instead of them just gloating, then that's interesting. I don't understand the mechanism by which they would have influence over these companies though

      I'm gonna make a stretch here, and even though they openly admit to doing it, Jews do run the banking cartels for the most part; it would seem logical that many of the silicon valley start ups, usually more engaged in spying for the Authoritarian tyrants, may have to tow the line due entirely to money used to back said company. ~Or this: QUOTE: "ADL is a select contributing member of YouTube’s Trusted Flagger program, created in 2012 to enable organizations to notify the platform of content that violates their community guidelines. Google is a longstanding member of ADL’s Silicon Valley Anti-Cyberhate Working Group."https://www.adl.org/news/press-releases/adl-applauds-google-and-youtube-in-expanding-initiative-to-fight-online-hate

      Least yet we not forget, we had Sasha Baron Cohen recently drop his charade, and in front of the ADL, and purveying audience how draconian he really is; which if the ADL isn't behind a lot, is strange that such a comedian would outright call out the fans of his productions as haters, which he did; go figure, the people that made him famous, are evil.... Good thing he tricked them all, so as to show the world what true evil is..... which is the 'fat slob sitting at home laughing at his movies'... lol, the ADL carries some weight.

      [–]HeyImSancho[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Who cares. Stop giving the ADL a microphone for their bullcrap

      The above was your original opinion. What does that mean? Can you break it down? It felt more like what's it called, "gaslighting". You say nothing about about the ADL, but instead your 'opinion' is only, 'stop giving the ADL a microphone for their bullcrap'.

      So give your opinion on these 2 questions: Considering many people are clueless to the ADL, or what it even is, and the power they yield, what is accomplished by ignoring an institution that carries serious weight in the government, works to label, and list innocent hard working people as haters by default?

      &

      Where should our focus be?

      [–]HeyImSancho[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

      I'll await a response from you, before making a thread on this very topic Magnora. I've seen you, and others berate people on this board, in regards to what they post, their style, what they use for sources, even if it doesn't matter, as they clearly 'kick off the direction of discussion'. You, and a few others I suspect of being closeted leftists chime in to tell people they're what???? I read you as an Admin tell someone in an open forum thread that you were going to mute the feed from that sub in your own personal feed..... As if any Admin/site owner would ever do that, when the liability does fall at your doorstep???? Am I to believe a forum admin, and a site owner would seriously ignore what's posted to the site they own? But at the same time, you can be what, "like stink on shit" here, or where ever to say 'you suck'...more, or less???? The Irony!

      What really appears to be happening while this is a forum, you want whatever your agenda is, to be forefront; any topic, or presenter you don't like, you make little 'quiffs', or is it 'sharts' in their threads; so as to head off others???? That's what I'm seeing. And you're the one that talks of echo chambers; pffft.

      Yeah, I tell ya', you can ban me, you can do whatever floats your boat, I know what you're about. On that note, yes, anything I post from here on out, anyone that comes in, will be subject to me responding in kind.

      [–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

      I'm not going to ban you, I was just voicing an opinion. Calm the hell down. Overreaction of the year.

      [–]HeyImSancho[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

      I'm not going to ban you, I was just voicing an opinion. Calm the hell down. Overreaction of the year.

      I don't see it as an overreaction. I've read a lot of weird stuff on this board that to me seems tantamount to temper tantrums; often times from people that seemingly lean left. From threads titles basically stating, 'if you people don't stop, then I quit', based off of not liking what others are posting. I've definitely seen the little quiff posts that offer no validation, or reason.... When no validation, or reasoning is offered, it makes me think there's some other motivating factor for the participation; some underlying self interest.

      So yeah, I don't like one offs without reason, or validation; add to that, it came from the site admin/owner, and what am I supposed to think?

      [–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

      add to that, it came from the site admin/owner, and what am I supposed to think?

      Am I not allowed to have opinions?

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        [–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

        Yeah it just sucks because of lot of people came to saidit because of the way I voice my opinions. So I feel like by using another account I'm robbing content from those people. It feels like a lose-lose, but I am tired of having ridiculous arguments about saidit as a whole everytime I state any opinion as magnora7, so I might just have to use another account out of necessity. It just sucks for the people who want to see what magnora7 says. I hate that I feel uncomfortable to comment on my own website unless I use another account

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            [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

            Well make a post or something. I don't even know what the core issue is here. Should admins never share personal opinion?