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Sylvia Rivera being heartily booed by gays and lesbians at 1973 gay rally (OMG - he's nuts...)(youtube.com)

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JulienMayfair 26 insightful - 1 fun26 insightful - 0 fun27 insightful - 1 fun 2 years ago

And this was why Gay Liberation in the early 70s wisely distanced itself from trans issues, but 20 years later, we had forgotten the lesson we learned.

Rag3 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun 2 years ago

How did they weasel their way back in, I wonder?

ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun 2 years ago

The success of LGB lobby groups at getting horrible laws changed. They saw it, wanted it, and decided to infiltrate and piggy back.

MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun 2 years ago

Desperation from the AIDS crisis perhaps? A 'we need as much support/as many allies as possible' attitude?

PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun 2 years ago

Via all the damn straight-fetishist "trans" people, and Queer Theorists, pushing this crackpot "gender identity" drivel. Which, I think, LGB individuals-- and especially organizations-- mistook for a critique of gender itself. And, because gender is the basis for our oppression as same-sex-attracted people, they welcomed all the gender-identity proponents in. Not realizing that this was the same old poison, just repackaged.

usehername 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun 2 years ago

Ideology and paraphilia.

Two of the world's most powerful motivators after food.

BEB[S] 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun 2 years ago

Wow - this is a must see especially for all the 14-year-olds running around saying this madman is responsible for gay rights.

Here's more info on 70s' gay rights relationship w the T

https://www.reddit.com/r/askgaybros/comments/oawk9r/how_is_it_that_some_gays_and_lesbians_have_really/

Dromedary 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun 2 years ago

It's like watching a terrible screechy comedy character having an episode. No wonder they couldn't stand him. Of course he's wearing a thin jumpsuit so you can see his dick. What a state. Also funny, usually YouTubes automated CC subtitles are pretty good, but for this screed it was "Nee mlin nin ni blee bla o nib! De di dao de blee blom bloo! !djhias gyer huoszd, sdop zdij8!" :)

SerpensInferna 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun 2 years ago

The comments on that thread are refreshing. I love to see the pushback.

kwallio 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun 2 years ago

That whole thread...wow. The pushback is real. The trans apologists in there are getting a workout.

Rag3 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun 2 years ago

I remember seeing this and I was disturbed. Also, the comment section is a mess.

RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 22 insightful - 4 fun22 insightful - 3 fun23 insightful - 4 fun 2 years ago

You weren’t joking about the comment section. Guess I’m a racist now, since I know that this crossdresser who went by the name of Sylvia Rivera has done absolutely nothing but tell lies and sleep on benches.

JulienMayfair 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun 2 years ago

I saw a longer, later interview with Rivera, and he obviously had some flavor of personality disorder. I mean, Rivera was living on the street in some ramshackle shelter, no education, no skills, unemployable. How did such a complete fuck-up become a hero?

Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun 2 years ago

How did such a complete fuck-up become a hero?

Simple: activists needed a reason to justify including TQ+ shite into the LGB rights umbrella, and so they completely fabricated an icon to help doing so.

Also, at this point, the Stonewall Riots aren't even a historic event anymore, but a creation myth.

RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun 2 years ago

TRAs needed a hero, so they invented one. They just needed a template. Rivera was the perfect one, because he was known at the time for being a crossdresser.

SerpensInferna 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun 2 years ago

Holy crap, that poor person was out of their mind and clearly needed professional help.

I am baffled that so many youtube comments are hailing Rivera as a true hero, so brave! and praising him to high heaven when he is a raving lunatic.

DimDroog 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun 2 years ago

My mother was an "fg hag back in the 70s.

I grew up around LGB folks.

I never, ever saw a trans person.

They weren't there when men were dying of AIDS.

Didn't see them do anything for gay rights.

usehername 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun 2 years ago

This is the perfect time for me to repost this video Sylvia Rivera looking like a homeless drug addict under a bridge ranting about lesbians and telling lies about Stonewall. Guess he was too high to remember what really happened: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHMTSAJ9ykg