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Cloudflare terminates service for 8chans(new.blog.cloudflare.com)

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happysmash27 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 4 years ago

This is starting to feel like a war on free speech.

Theo_Fridall 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 4 years ago

That's a wrap boys. The system works.

bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 4 years ago

except, its back. on a p2p blockchain system. I believe the meme is now of a pepe hydra

sodasplash 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 4 years ago

I read on T_D that it got picked up by someone else.

bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 4 years ago

8ch was full of good conversations and minds. And shilled constantly by leftists and TLA agencies.

Banning it won't help anything, they'll just have to look harder to find the conversations they want to stop.

The way to stop right wing white supremacy is not to ban it, oppress those who lean towards it, or make any idea that isn't neo-marxist illegal.

It is to stop targetting white males, stop driving narratives that injure them, stop the endless anti-white racism. Stop forcing diversity and multicultralism in western countries.

Stop pushing so hard to destroy the west.

Then maybe something beautiful can grow from this crazy mixed up world. Instead of conflict.

Because at the moment, the left is driving straight towards a brick wall of civil war. driven by their hatred of white men.

Mnemonic 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 4 years ago

Should have done it sooner, now it's just a 'heat of the moment'-reaction instead of a well thought out list of things why they won't serve 8ch.

solder0 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun 4 years ago

Bottom of the pyramid, forgive me but FUCK THEM! Anyway, every criticism of this action has already been posted. The hypocrisy, the inequitable execution of so called "terms of service", etcetera, etcetera. Life caught up with me, and it's exhausting enough, I just don't have enough energy to come up with the words to describe how unnecessary and perverse this course of action is.

I hope they come back.

pointyball 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun 4 years ago

This was not well thought out. Cloudflare is now a publisher because they are editing content based on subject content. They are no longer protected by immunity as an ISP.

kfn 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun 4 years ago

I wish this would be enforced. R*ddit is doing the same thing, to a much further extent.

Ian[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 4 years ago

A good point well made.

James_Kuhn3rd 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun 4 years ago

You're dead on.

The problem however, resides in the fact that instead of addressing the problem, the political elite are looking to increase control.

Let no good tragedy go to waste as they say. Publicize the mass shootings for gun control, publicize the natural disasters to increase or create the powers of FEMA, DHS, EPA, HHS...

By and large, the people want this. Freedom is hard. Freedom forces everyone to recognize that there are some ugly parts of humanity, that humans may not be fundamentally good and that you can't just educate this away.. Most people would rather the government hide tragedy from them, this way they need not be involved.

hennaojisan 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 4 years ago

They're Coming to Take Me Away

Vigte 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun 4 years ago

Memology video about this

Tom_Bombadil 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun 4 years ago

Booo Cloudflare!!!

Shame on you!

IamRedBeard 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun 4 years ago

Yes, shame on them for having Morals and getting rid of a Loli site that promotes misogyny and hate. How backwards and amoral do you have to be to see this as a bad thing?

bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 4 years ago

I can tell you've never spent any time there. Loli posters get met with a barrage of rejection and criticism. Misogynists get met with a barrage of people promoting family and love.

The problem with free speech, is every arsehole gets a say. Most anons reject degeneracy and hatred, and care about their communities.

IamRedBeard 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 4 years ago

I spent some time there back in the early 00's. I saw the opposite of what you describe, which is why I decided to promote it no further, and it has continued to carry a shady reputation, so I never felt a need to go back.

If you found actual wholesome support there and people you could lean on - then I'm sorry other shitheads messed that up for you. I imagine you as a minority, though.

Maybe the next time somebody calls you a fag, it can warm the cockles of your heart, with fond sentimental memories.

Shit, it's probably already back up.

bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 4 years ago

Dealing with being insulted is part of the process of growing up. "OP is gay" on your first few attempts at content are a sobering experience.

After a while, insults roll off like water off a duck's back and rightly so. We live in an overly sensitive world, and it will be the death of us.

And yes, its back, with a blockchain bunker.

Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 4 years ago

They didn't promote anything.

This crap had nothing to do with 8chan. Cloudflare has no business censoring them.

IamRedBeard 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun 4 years ago

Wrong. It is Precisely their business. It was a Business decision. Did you read their letter at all? Did you see the reasons they gave? And here is the thing about what you call censorship, because I think you are confused about it.

The freedom of speech gives you the right to criticize the government without fear of arrest. That means you can say for instance: Donald Trump is a treasonous carpet bagging Wall Street Yankee con artist warm handed mouth breathing red eyed bastard son of a bitch. And I cant be arrested for it.

But If I walked into a store that made MAGA Hats and said the same thing - They can show my ass the door. You could say they were trying to censor me - and that would be untrue. It is not censorship to show some shithead that is messing up your business the door.

It's CAPITALISM

The hate sight known as 8 chan will be up and running again by tomorrow. If it isn't up now. Im not going to check cause I dont want to end up on a Pedo list by the FBI - but you do you, buddy.

bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 4 years ago

Ah, as soon as i read the content, I knew the username.

Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 4 years ago

/u/HeyImSancho has an illustrative post and the 8chan FBI setup.

(http://shoebat.com/2019/06/18/major-scandal-as-fbi-accidentally-outs-itself-provoking-violence-on-8chan-over-earnest-shooting/)

QUOTE: "This is a very serious thing because if one reads the 8chan court document, the FBI is accusing people who RESPONDED to THEIR OWN POSTS ATTEMPTING TO PROVOKE PEOPLE as though they were inciting violence and therefore are guilty of federal crimes. This means that the government encouraged crimes and then people who said ANYTHING in response are at risk of being arrested.

It is quite reminiscent of a case in 2016, where during a massive “child porn” bust, it was uncovered that the FBI was running with the authorization of the government approximately two dozen of such websites, making up nearly half of all of the major websites promoting abuse material on the deep web:"

This is essentially entrapment.

It's it reasonable for 8chan to be punished for the FBI entrapment if it's members?

Mnemonic 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 4 years ago

How is Cloudflare censoring them? The blog states that cloudflare's other termination was 2 years ago of 'the daily stormer' and they went to a competitor.

Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 4 years ago

Cloudflare cancelled their contract because of external pressure to shut down and silence 8chan.

Shutting a group down, because of what they are saying is a form of censorship.

Also, see my comment above.