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[–]kwallio 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I don't see how anyone can argue that men attracted to transwomen are anything but same sex attracted. Whether that means they are gay or bi I don't know but they are having MSM regardless of whatever they think their orientation is.

[–]cars[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yes, but straight men, and even some straight women, often have "gay phases" at some points in life. That doesn't make them any less straight. Also, lots of straight AGPs have meta-attraction that leads them into MSM, even though they're straight.

[–]kwallio 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Perhaps but the gay sex they were having makes them same sex attracted at the time they were having it. That they might be straight now doesn't make it less gay. We are talking about trans women chasers, so like I said its still homosexual sex they are having regardless of their own feelings about it.

This argument reminds me of Dan Savage's jokes about dating "straight" men, like their gayness ends at orgasm or something. "What do you mean you're straight, your dick is still in my ass" <-- Dan Savage quote.

[–]theory_of_thisan actual straight crossdresser 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, but straight men, and even some straight women, often have "gay phases" at some points in life. That doesn't make them any less straight.

Why? What's wrong with saying they aren't entirely straight?

You're saying people should be able to identify as they wish?