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[–]hkkb[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

thanks so much for your help! I'm looking for a religion for the exact reasons you describe, it is not acceptable to me that I am believing and practicing whatever I like, worshipping my own worldview. I believe it is morally wrong to not be part of a religious community to which you have to conform yourself and be challenged by, it's wrong to do every single thing exactly as it suits you, and thousands of years of knowledge and tradition probably know better than me anyway. my obstacle in righting what I believe to be the serious moral failing of cultural atheism is that I am unwilling to lie for any reason, and I'm obviously an atheist, so i've been "shopping around" I guess for a religion that would allow me membership even if I don't believe God is a conscious force or being. I don't have any religious background in my family that I can go off of, so I don't just want to arbitrarily pick a religion at random to join, it could be a cult or something for all I know. The only religion I've really heard of is Catholicism (I've also heard of Judaism, Protestant, Muslim, but I don't know what they are other than Protestants are related to Catholics) and I would be happy to become Catholic even though I think I disagree with them a lot -based on the Catholic friend I had- because what do I know about what's right anyway? However, it seems to me that true faith and belief are very important to Catholicism and they wouldn't want me to attend if they knew that I just can't get myself to believe deep down that God is conscious. I've also found that a religious group is the only source of community and shared lifestyle and values, as you said, but as religion doesn't seem to be an option for me, I thought I'd give a shot at finding a community of similarly traditional women in case there was at least some benefit

[–]Retro-Housewife 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

  • If your mother was born Jewish then you can be an atheist Jew. If your mother was not born Jewish then you can not become Jewish.

  • I'm fairly certain that 99.9% of all Christian denominations will require that you believe in G-d.

  • Islam will have zero tolerance towards atheists.

[–]Dragonerne 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

If your mother was not born Jewish then you can not become Jewish.

This is not true. Jewishness comes from the male line from Abraham into Shem. You cannot be a jew without a jewish father.

[–]Retro-Housewife 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Jewish law is very clear that the child of a Jewish mother is Jewish and not the father. It has been this way since we were given the Torah. On the other hand the priesthood is patrilineal.

[–]Dragonerne 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

No, it is Jacobs seed that is blessed by God. Not his wife, not his daughters, but his seed.

[–]Retro-Housewife 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/601092/jewish/Why-Is-Jewishness-Matrilineal.htm

I'm Jewish Orthodox. My mother is Jewish, my grandmother is Jewish, my great-grandmother is Jewish and and every grandmother that I have that came before me has been Jewish. Judaism is Matrilineal

I wouldn't argue with the Pope about being Catholic so kindly don't argue with me about being Jewish.