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[deleted] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun 4 years ago

trump, a long time democrat and pal of clinton. I do think we got played with him and Q is meant to give excuses for why trump does nothing. It was nice in 2016 to celebrate but it was also nice in 2008 for liberals to celebrate when Obama won but then he sold out on every issue over the course of years. Politicians always lie and only help the rich. This repeats all thru history but people live and die and forget and historians usually don't report on it. Truth is we're all keyboard warriors now and we will never "stand together against the left" nor the right. Revolutions only happen when people are hungry in their stomach.

Rationalmind 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun 4 years ago

Obama didn’t sell out, he was exactly what you’d expect. He and HRC had almost identical views and policy positions. Obama never ran on a progressive platform. His marketing of the campaign was “hope” and “change,” but that was only aspirational. If you looked at his record, it was clear he was an establishment neoliberal Democrat. I think what amazes me now is when people talk about Obama like he was such a good president. Obama was a very average president with decent speaking skills.

[deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun 4 years ago

Any actual leftists will very quickly and openly criticize Obama for the same reasons

Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 4 years ago

The Neocons did like Obama. But the Iran Deal was cool and he had some things to say about the corrupt nature of Israel even though he did the exact opposite.

[deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun 4 years ago

obama sold out on every issue, unprecedented in modern politics, this is why occupy wall st started up. But if you criticized obama you got called racist so it was tricky and they never mentioned him but it was obvious. His cabinet was run by goldman sachs, aka wall st.

Now of course trump is the second straight president who has sold out on every issue, demoralizing his base, although Q helps keep their spirits up, a way to cope, no one likes being told they were duped. Mainly older folks vote republican and that is more painful for them to realize they were duped, they don't have much more time left on this earth so they are loath to start over politically, starting a new movement, they would rather believe a savior from within has a plan to do it for them. Young people dropped out of politics en masse after obama and voted more for third parties like jill stein. That hurt Hilay's chances. Biden soon to lose due to this phenomenon, Obama really killed the democratic party for a generation, but it runs in cycles and new voters who are unaware of what happened are becoming 18 every year.