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Vulptex has decided not to enforce bans on the spam accounts, but he will still ban me for rule violations. This is unacceptable selective enforcement of the rules(self)

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Vulptex 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun 9 months ago

I do enforce the rules. I remove every spam post when I see it.

Banning them does nothing. These are bots that have thousands of accounts, they don't care if they get one banned. It's like trying to ban Ed.

If it makes you feel any better, I often do ban spam accounts if I haven't seen that spammer before, or if the username is their product's name or company (so they lose that name). In fact that alt account of yours partly falls into the "spammer I haven't seen before" category.

If saidit had more tools, including some of the ones I implemented, I could use more effective strategies against the spam bots. Until that happens this is the best I can do.

DrRaccoon[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun 9 months ago

I don't care, if you ban me, but not them, we are going to continue to have a problem

iamonlyoneman 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun 9 months ago

why not fuck off to your own website then

iamonlyoneman 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 9 months ago

are they coming from an IP address that can be banned, or even a similar IP range?

Vulptex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 9 months ago

No

iamonlyoneman 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 9 months ago

Ugh. Oh well. Thanks for doing what you can to keep the place tidy.

thoughtcriminal 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun 9 months ago

I don't ban the spam accounts either, it's pointless and it takes a lot longer than just clicking the spam button to remove them. There are hundreds of these accounts and they just make new ones. Vulptex and I and the other content admins are volunteers, we do it for free. We aren't always on to remove the spam immediately (the bulk of it comes in around 1-3am my time). User reports do help though, so thank you for those who report them.

DrRaccoon[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 9 months ago

Its a bit demoralizing to see a wall of 100 spam posts and realize that the accounts arent even being banned, yet a quick test of the rule violation response on an alt results in an immediate ban. Does not leave me with a good feeling about this place

thoughtcriminal 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun 9 months ago

I understand where you're coming from, but ultimately they're different beasts. 20 posts about bone conducting headphones is annoying but it isn't going to get saidit taken down. Posting something graphic or inciteful might. I don't know the details of the current hosting arrangement but I know saidit has had issues with that in the past.

If you posted your rule violation test at 2am like the spam bots do it would probably stay up longer.

DrRaccoon[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 9 months ago

I fully expected it to get removed. The part that irked me was getting my account banned for a first violation while bone conductor is apparently free to continue spamming without even the slightest inconvenience.

Vulptex 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun 9 months ago

That account had nothing but porn and spam/troll posts on it. m7 has always banned accounts like that in the past so I'm going by that.

Now if someone posts porn, but they've also had genuine participation, that's different. If you posted it on this account I wouldn't have banned it right away.

DrRaccoon[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 9 months ago

Also, are you implying that if I create 100 bot accounts that post just 1 porn each, ala the bone conduction guy, that you will give me a pass and not ban me because its too much work? How would you feel about me testing this out?

snapperS 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 8 months ago

If you posted your rule violation test at 2am like the spam bots do it would probably stay up longer.

i know.

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Vulptex 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun 9 months ago

You were banned for repeatedly advocating violence.

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Vulptex 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun 9 months ago

I target you when I see you advocating violence.

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Gaslov 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 9 months ago

Oh my God dude. Let it go and move on. It's not like you were banned for having the wrong opinion.

sneako 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 9 months ago

Down with vulptex!