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Lovebirds_fury 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun 11 months ago

Wtf. What climate change has to do with lgbt rights?

This world is becoming a madhouse. What a bunch of deranged idiots.

We haven't time to spare, apparently. We need women rights, gay rights, raising awareness about slavery, measures to prevent world hunger and saving the oceans in the same event, please. Our identity isn't diluted enough, gay men must become an unholy amalgamation of social causes, schizophrenic people screaming about nazis in every conversation

chazzstrong 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun 11 months ago

I don't want to pull out the 'politics' card, but it should be obvious at this point that ALL of this ideological leftist bullshit is thinly veiled authoritarianism wrapped in a flimsy, transparent package of identity politics. Liberalism as we might have practiced it a decade ago has shifted so much to the 'right' based on modern day leftism that it's essentially Conservatism without religion.

reluctant_commenter 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun 11 months ago

but it should be obvious at this point that ALL of this ideological leftist bullshit is thinly veiled authoritarianism wrapped in a flimsy, transparent package of identity politics

Yes, it should be obvious. But it's tough to get any sort of discussion about this going when people act like authoritarianism is only a right-wing phenomenon. So many people I know on the left believe that. "But what about Mao?" "Oh that doesn't count, that's just one example." But there are way more examples... e.g. there have been multiple authoritarian regimes in South American countries over the last century-- politically right and left ones.

There's a meme where someone is standing in one place between two other people, and one of the other two people moves way out to an extreme end, such that the person in the middle is suddenly "right wing" even though their views didn't change at all, comparatively speaking. I relate to that a lot even though most of my actual views are very liberal...

chazzstrong 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun 11 months ago

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FLetfgTXEAAXHSs.jpg

That's my favorite one, and painfully on-point in regards to my own experience.
I asked questions, I was told one should NOT ask those questions, I persisted....and just like that, I evolved into a right-wing fascist.

reluctant_commenter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 11 months ago

That's a good one. I've known a number of people who have had the experience of that meme, too.

Just curious, would you actually describe yourself as a right-wing fascist? Or are you just using the term sarcastically as a far-left TRA would, calling everyone who even slightly disagrees with them far-right? (Sorry if the sarcasm sailed over my head, it's late over here and I'm a little tired.)

samfish 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun 11 months ago

In America, at least, it’s been that way since the 1980’s, when the Democrats decided they would become an economically right party. That’s when they stopped supporting unions and generally being the economically populist party. They decided they were going to get that Wall Street support, and go whole hog on supporting the military.

It’s been 35 or so years of no difference between them and republicans beyond culture war issues. And framing anything through a culture war lens means never having to follow through in any meaningful way with legislation. Hence why they toss in things like climate change as culture war.