75% of California voters oppose sex change surgeries and sterilizing hormones for children under 18

worried19 · 2020-07-27T00:28:09+00:00

This is fucking terrible. The men who are willing to do this are evil and depraved. Women are so beaten down, they just accept these horrors as if they were normal. I blame porn.

worried19 · 2021-03-10T03:55:09+00:00

I knew it would happen, but I'm still sad.

Seriously, I hate Reddit. It doesn't matter how nice and kind and accepting people are. What matters is that they dissent from the party line. It was so upsetting when our small GCDebatesQT sub was banned for "hate speech," just like SuperStraight was. We even had two trans women moderators and a community full of trans and non-trans people who were friends and liked and respected each other, even when we disagreed. But none of that was enough for Reddit. The admins there just want to silence unapproved speech.

worried19 · 2020-07-17T04:07:51+00:00

I feel genuinely horrible for the person involved, but this reminds me of that recent news story about a bunch of trans teenagers who got kicked out of the men's restroom at the Iowa State Capitol building and were in tears because of it.

I was like Jesus, nothing screams female socialization like crying because you were kicked out of a restroom. A group of teenage boys would never in a million years have behaved that way.

worried19 · 2021-03-10T03:35:34+00:00

I knew it would be. I'm kind of sad, even though I knew it was inevitable.

It was really a sweet, wholesome sub. So many of those straight dudebros were openly showing solidarity with the LGB community.

worried19 · 2020-07-25T22:28:22+00:00

In case anyone is not aware, the child featured in this episode is Kai Shappley, whose conservative Christian parents beat him for being feminine as a preschooler before ultimately taking him to a gender clinic and having him transitioned.

Kimberly turned to a DIY form of conversion therapy. She dressed Kai in camouflage and held her down to cut her blond hair into a flattop. Since most of the family’s seven children are boys—Kimberly has one adult daughter—there were no “girl toys” at home, but Kimberly asked the Christian daycare Kai attended to hide any baby dolls from her as well. When Kai turned her T-shirts into skirts or insisted she was a girl, Kimberly spanked her. When Kai asked for a Minnie Mouse birthday cake, Kimberly bought her one with Mickey.

“No matter how much punishment this kid got, you couldn’t beat it out of her,” Kimberly said. “You couldn’t pray it out, I couldn’t cast it out.”

https://splinternews.com/she-was-an-ultraconservative-texas-christian-then-kai-1793859323

worried19 · 2020-12-01T19:07:32+00:00

My first thought. Anything to distract attention from that huge win.

Also notice how Bell winning her case is nowhere to be found on Google News, not even in the World or Health section. Yet Page is the top story in Entertainment.

worried19 · 2020-08-04T02:48:08+00:00

Poor guy. The man is 89 years old. You'd think even the wokest of the woke would give him a break.

worried19 · 2020-07-11T04:24:09+00:00

I feel like I've finally peaked. I've been GC-leaning for years, but fuck it. I may as well identify as full GC considering everyone in the world has lost their damn mind and any form of moderation is now considered evil.

What initially inspired me to lurk GC about 4 years ago was that I was fed up with pro-BDSM rhetoric on Reddit. GC was the only sub I could find that called out sexual dehumanization and degradation of women. I thought you guys were wrong and hateful about trans issues at first, but I continued lurking for posts about BDSM and other radical feminist topics and was essentially "converted." At the same time, I started to lurk 4thwavenow and learned about all the worrying cases of toddlers and preschoolers being transitioned, and the dramatic rise in young girls disavowing their biological sex.

I still consider myself a moderate person and have no problem at all with adult old-school transsexuals. I'm happy to use their preferred pronouns, but I'm fucking upset and scared by how extreme activists have apparently taken over the entire world and squashed dissent, both inside and outside of the trans community. It's like something out of a George Orwell nightmare. I worry for the future of highly GNC children and teenagers, especially girls. I can only hope the bubble will burst soon. At the moment, you can't even say you are against minors being given hormones and surgeries without being labeled "the enemy."

worried19 · 2020-07-27T07:31:59+00:00

It's all horrible and the number one thing that makes me no longer want to be female.

Sadly, I think almost every man out there abuses women during sex. A recent poll found that nearly 70% of women admitted having men commit violence on their bodies during consensual sex.

Over two-thirds of men under 40 have slapped, choked, gagged or spat on partner during sex, BBC Scotland doc finds

Third of British women have experienced unwanted choking, slapping or spitting during sex

Notice the second article specifies "unwanted." Another 31% said they had also experienced it but that it wasn't unwanted. That means at least 69% of women are experiencing violent sex. Not to mention some of the other 31% who "didn't know" or "preferred not to say." How can you not know? I assume some of the women in this last category were too embarrassed to talk about it.

worried19 · 2020-07-27T00:51:28+00:00

I was told multiple times it was just "fun and games" and "no big deal." I was the one with the problem if I objected to men hitting or choking me. I said I would file a police report if that happened to me, and I was informed I was the crazy one. These men are so desensitized to violence that they apparently don't even register what they're doing as violent. They just consider it normal sex.

worried19 · 2020-07-27T00:41:24+00:00

365 Days. I didn't know it had choking, but I wouldn't be surprised. There was an open letter asking Netflix to remove it, but of course they haven't done so.

https://deadline.com/2020/07/singer-duffy-writes-reed-hastings-netflix-controversial-polish-film-365-days-glamorizes-rape-1202976002

They had never before discussed it

I had multiple men on Reddit tell me there was no need to ask permission before wrapping your hands around a woman's throat and lightly choking her. They're of the opinion that if the woman doesn't like it, she can just say so. Not that they have to ask before performing a violent and humiliating act on someone's body.

worried19 · 2020-07-12T23:52:48+00:00

Buck Angel continues being awesome in the comments:

"You cannot tell someone to stop talking about a subject that has a big effect on my community. Its her right to be concerned and detransition is on the upswing. I transitioned 25 years ago and as an elder I am concerned just like @jk_rowling If you voice your opinion so do others"

worried19 · 2020-07-13T17:11:11+00:00

In case anyone is not aware, this poor child is Kai Shappley, whose conservative Christian parents beat him for being feminine as a preschooler before ultimately taking him to a gender clinic and having him transitioned.

Kimberly turned to a DIY form of conversion therapy. She dressed Kai in camouflage and held her down to cut her blond hair into a flattop. Since most of the family’s seven children are boys—Kimberly has one adult daughter—there were no “girl toys” at home, but Kimberly asked the Christian daycare Kai attended to hide any baby dolls from her as well. When Kai turned her T-shirts into skirts or insisted she was a girl, Kimberly spanked her. When Kai asked for a Minnie Mouse birthday cake, Kimberly bought her one with Mickey.

“No matter how much punishment this kid got, you couldn’t beat it out of her,” Kimberly said. “You couldn’t pray it out, I couldn’t cast it out.”

https://splinternews.com/she-was-an-ultraconservative-texas-christian-then-kai-1793859323

worried19 · 2020-07-13T17:15:19+00:00

I don't know any out lesbians in a class of 400. I know 5 "transmen."

That really says it all. What's more likely, that lesbian teenage girls have ceased to exist, or that we're currently in the middle of a massive wave of social contagion?

worried19 · 2021-03-10T04:12:35+00:00

I even saw a few guys who said they were conservative vow to stand with lesbians.

worried19 · 2020-07-28T02:09:00+00:00

That's sickening. Horrible that she had to step down for the good of the sub. Reddit is pretty much the only platform for detransitioners, and they're desperately in need of a space where they can connect with each other and get support.

It's evil the way these activists have targeted such a vulnerable population.

worried19 · 2021-06-16T06:57:06+00:00

Ha, that was my first thought. The men there are not down to play.

worried19 · 2020-08-24T05:48:59+00:00

I just don't understand it. How did society come to this? 20 years ago, she would have been a perfectly normal tomboy.

I don't believe for a second this 10 year old girl has expressed hatred for her vagina or her female body in general. I'd be surprised if she were ever suicidal over being a girl. What the hell is driving this? She's a fucking baby, and her parents have decided she's a boy. The plot of the movie is also screwed up because in real life, 99% of kids would never get transitioned if their moms weren't driving the bus. This movie is portraying the father as a pro-trans "hero" when in real life he'd be the parent least likely to give a shit about any of this. The dads in these families are either oblivious or homophobic. The moms are the ones trying to score "woke" points or in some cases have more sinister motivations.

worried19 · 2020-11-02T04:05:29+00:00

So apparently Smith is no longer homosexual as well as no longer a man?

worried19 · 2020-09-04T07:49:30+00:00

Yes, doctors prescribe blockers to children with precocious puberty. That was their original use.

However, this female child was apparently put on testosterone. Testosterone is not a treatment for precocious puberty. Did you read the article? Olson-Kennedy is one of the most enthusiastic proponents for medicalizing young children. She regularly prescribes testosterone for 12 year olds and gives the green light for mastectomies to be performed on 13 year olds.

More on this doctor:

Younger’s lawyer, Logan Odeneal, asked Olson-Kennedy whether it is safe or ethical to remove healthy breast tissue from adolescent girls as young as 13, as has been recommended at her clinic.

Odeneal: Well, if you remove the breasts from a young woman, she will never be able to lactate or to breastfeed an infant; is that correct?

Olson-Kennedy: Well, I, I don’t advocate removal for breast tissue from young women. I advocate for chest reconstruction in young men.

Odeneal: Well haven’t you referred girls to have the chest surgery from your clinic?

Olson-Kennedy: They’re, they’re, they’re not girls. They’re not girls. They don’t identify as girls. So I have referred people who identify as transmasculine or as boys or young men for surgery, yes.

Odeneal: But do their birth certificates identify them as girls?

Olson-Kennedy: Sometimes, and sometimes they’ve had their gender marker changed on their birth certificate.

Odeneal: How many patients have you referred for the chest surgery?

Olson-Kennedy: Probably about 200.

https://www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2019/12/09/the-tragedy-of-the-trans-child

worried19 · 2020-10-06T19:06:10+00:00

Pretty clear now why all those organizations started erasing their ties to Mermaids a few months ago.

Note, it was Jason's teacher who approached Jason's mother to suggest that Jason was trans and "we need to do something."

Reminds me of Pop Tart Kid, who was brought to a gender clinic because her religious school had a problem with her being GNC.

An 8-year-old kid comes into my practice, and this is the story with this kid: Assigned female at birth, 8 years old, was completely presenting male whatever that means—short haircut, boy’s clothes–but what was happening, is, this kid went to a very religious school and in the girls’ bathroom which is where this kid was going. People are like, “why is there a boy in the girl’s bathroom? That’s a real problem.” And so this kid was like, so that’s not super working for me, so I think that I wanna maybe enroll in school as a boy.

https://4thwavenow.com/2017/07/23/i-just-gave-him-the-language-top-gender-doc-uses-pop-tart-analogy-to-persuade-8-year-old-girl-shes-really-a-boy

Doctor then proceeds to convince this 8-year-old girl that she is actually a boy, over the child's own objections.

worried19 · 2020-09-12T03:19:21+00:00

This is by a user, though, not the editors.

worried19 · 2020-09-10T16:28:11+00:00

I'm guessing it will probably get banned, even with the disclaimers.

If anyone's interested, there's also a new sub called r/kinkdebate. Not much activity yet, though.

worried19 · 2020-09-08T18:53:44+00:00

Another one bites the dust. I don't know how mainstream society can't see this for what it is: female self-hatred.

worried19 · 2020-09-17T16:56:11+00:00

She's the child's legal parent. She's not being denied rights to the child. The child can still call her Mom. I don't get why endless amounts of money and time are being spent on something so trivial. It's just to prove a political point. What real-world effect does it have? I'm open to being convinced this is somehow necessary, but as far as I can tell, this parent is in a privileged position with enshrined legal rights already.

worried19 · 2020-08-16T01:52:25+00:00

The r/blatantmisogyny mod on Reddit recently said anyone anti-prostitution or anti-kink is no longer welcome to post.

Apparently SWERFs are the new TERFs.

worried19 · 2020-10-05T00:01:13+00:00

For me, yes. I've thought about it. You'd have to be crazy not to. GC such an attacked and reviled position. I've wondered if I'm missing something. Am I just not getting the crux of the argument? I used to be more QT, after all. I think back to what made me change my views, and I still find those reasons valid.

I would love to think I'm simply misguided, but I just can't believe that I am. To me, there's just something so profoundly wrong with what's happening in Western countries. I consider myself a very ethical and moral person. I hold myself to extremely high standards. I wouldn't be GC unless I was convinced it was the correct ethical position to take. I look at what's happening right now and I believe the actions undertaken by many are immoral, especially when it comes to children and young people. That's why I hold my current stance despite the mainstream considering it worthy of denunciation.

worried19 · 2020-09-10T04:20:05+00:00

Well, I private messaged her. I directed her to 4thwavenow, Parents of ROGD Kids, The Pique Resilience Project, and Transgender Trend. I hope it helps.

worried19 · 2020-07-14T21:36:34+00:00

Thanks for sharing your story. I've always said that if I'd been born 10 or even 5 years later, I may have found myself in the same position.

When I was entering puberty, transgender people were still "born in the wrong body" transsexuals. I specifically thought to myself in middle school that I couldn't be trans because I didn't hate my body. At that time, there was no large movement of transgender preteens or teens appearing in the mainstream and certainly no encouragement that someone could be trans without genital dysphoria.

It concerns me greatly that young girls are being encouraged to think of themselves as trans when so many of them are simply gender nonconforming, lesbian, traumatized, autistic, or just hate society's pornified view of women and the accompanying rigid gender roles.

worried19 · 2020-07-11T02:10:07+00:00

They banned our small gender debate sub that I'd been a member of for over 3 years. That sub helped me several times when I was feeling suicidal. Fuck Reddit and fuck their attempts at censorship. We had a good sub, full of both trans and non-trans people. Yes, there was debate, but I feel like we were a community. Many of us liked each other. I had both trans and GC friends there.

R.I.P. r/GCDebatesQT. If anyone can set up a debate sub on Saidit, it would be appreciated. We're homeless right now.

worried19 · 2020-10-31T19:43:57+00:00

This is going to age badly.

Also, if you're calling your female character "she," what's the point of labeling her "non-binary?"

worried19 · 2020-09-09T02:11:06+00:00

Initially, what drew me in was BDSM. I first started exploring GC on Reddit because I was sick and tired of the pro-kink attitudes on literally every other sub. I guess that was my gateway. I thought they were wrong about trans issues at first. What really changed my mind on that was child transition. Lurking 4thwavenow and reading more on GC and participating in the debate sub made me super aware of what was being done to kids, including extremely young kids. As a GNC adult who was also a GNC child, that disturbed me greatly.

worried19 · 2020-09-08T18:57:01+00:00

I saw Mulan as a kid, and even back then I didn't relate to her because even though she disguised herself as a man, she went back to being girly at the end of the movie by choice. So I don't know how trans people decided it was a story about a trans man when she's literally in a dress in the final scene.

worried19 · 2020-08-20T01:54:40+00:00

It's disgusting, and women like her drag down the rest of the female sex when they engage in self-degradation.

That said, it's a free world. But surely any feminist should be able to understand why women celebrating the patriarchy and demeaning themselves for the male gaze are considered harmful. This woman's actions have an effect on how the rest of us are perceived and treated. I think women have a responsibility to their fellow women and especially future generations of girls not to promote misogyny.

worried19 · 2020-07-27T06:56:44+00:00

I really feel a lot of anger towards those women. They're hurting all of us, and their desire to celebrate acts of male violence and male domination is damaging the next generation of girls.

worried19 · 2020-07-11T06:19:33+00:00

Apparently anyone can be a TERF, even trans people.

It's scary how open discourse isn't even tolerated now. No matter how nice or moderate someone is, even the mildest dissent from the party line is forbidden.

worried19 · 2020-09-06T00:38:48+00:00

I think social class is more influential than parenthood. In general, it seems like middle to upper middle class white women are really on board the "woke" train. Poor women, working class women, immigrant women, not so much. I think this is also reflected in female transition. The current explosion of adolescent natal female teenagers identifying as trans is not spread out evenly among all demographics. Go to a school in the inner city and count the number of trans boys, and then go to a rich neighborhood in Seattle or San Francisco and count them. I can pretty much guarantee there would be a stark difference in numbers.

worried19 · 2020-08-24T00:48:47+00:00

I don't think this is any woman's natural sexuality.

Her natural sexuality, whatever it may have been, is probably unknown even to her. I would bet it has been warped by years of porn and very likely personal experiences of trauma and abuse.

worried19 · 2020-07-11T02:19:12+00:00

Buck Angel seems like a good person. We need famous, moderate trans people to advocate on behalf of the powerless.

worried19 · 2021-07-01T04:05:01+00:00

laughs in GNC

I can use public restrooms that match my gender without fear of verbal abuse, physical intimidation, or arrest
I have the ability to walk through the world and generally blend-in, not being constantly stared or gawked at, whispered about, pointed at, or laughed at because of my gender expression.
I can reasonably assume that my ability to acquire a job, rent an apartment, or secure a loan will not be denied on the basis of my gender identity/expression.
People don't speculate that my gender identity is a result of abuse or trauma.
I can easily find role models and mentors to emulate who share my identity.
Hollywood accurately depicts people of my gender in films and television

This is really such bullshit for those of us who are gender nonconforming and have been our whole lives. No, I can't use women's restrooms without fear of public scrutiny or harassment. No, I don't fucking blend into the crowd. I've had people stare and gawk and whisper at me for years. Drunk dudes have yelled "what the fuck is that?" at me in public. I've been called slurs like "dyke" based on my masculine presentation. No, I don't have to worry that my gender expression won't cause employers to reject me. In many workplaces, femininity is overtly or covertly required. I can't walk into an office anywhere in the world and get a job. No, actually people do speculate about women who reject femininity. Some people believe we do reject it because of trauma or abuse. No, I can't find female role models who look like me. They are almost entirely absent and decreasing every day as more and more GNC females flee womanhood like a house on fire. No, Hollywood doesn't accurately depict women like me at all. We're either absent or increasingly transitioned, which is also reflected in real life.

It pisses me off to see people who never have to deal with any of this shit be so cavalier about it and claim that it only affects GNC people who identity as transgender. I don't have any of this so-called "cis privilege" as a masculine woman.

worried19 · 2021-01-29T04:11:04+00:00

I see Reddit's war on female spaces continues.

If any of the banned bisexual women want invite codes to Ovarit, hit me up.

worried19 · 2020-08-22T03:30:28+00:00

Those poor kids. I can't even be mad at them. I just feel sorry for them. I don't understand how they can be so out of touch with reality. Is this really how the entire younger generation is?

I feel old, and I'm only 25.

worried19 · 2020-08-10T04:00:32+00:00

Fucking insane that beating and choking women can't even be considered misogyny.

Is the moderator of this subreddit male?

worried19 · 2020-07-13T19:10:20+00:00

Some of them apparently are that homophobic, at least according to the recent BBC report.

We did have a lot of families and parents who would actively tell us that, "oh, I'm so glad at least my child is not gay or lesbian," implying that having a trans outcome would be better for their children.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTRnrp9pXHY

worried19 · 2020-12-08T23:05:33+00:00

It's depressing when you see almost every other GNC female person jumping ship.

I don't know any other GNC women in real life, and to be honest, I would be afraid to get to know them for fear that they would just abandon womanhood, too. It's already happening with celebrities and public figures. Maybe some of the older ones are safe, but I think anyone under 40 is more likely than not to disavow their biological sex.

I've considered it myself. Why struggle to stay a woman in a world that hates all women? Why be GNC when I know I could pass flawlessly as a trans man? Why be female when I struggle with a shit ton of internalized misogyny, loathing, and contempt for other females? I guess the only thing stopping me is that I know it would be wrong, dangerous to my health, and would set a terrible example for the poor GNC girls who did not ask to be born into a society like this. If I abandon womanhood along with everyone else, they'll have no role models. I don't want to hurt the next generation like that.

worried19 · 2020-11-02T02:29:33+00:00

There are groups out there that actively work to teach BDSM to children and teenagers. Planned Parenthood is one of them.

https://web.archive.org/web/20130311055325/https://www.plannedparenthood.org/hudsonpeconic/files/Hudson%20Peconic/50_shades_registration.pdf

This was part of an expose some conservative group did on Planned Parenthood. Apparently, they found a lot more besides this. They were also promoting kink directly to underage teens. Unfortunately, it seems like this only got traction with anti-abortion groups. Planned Parenthood erased much of their BDSM content after this expose, but some of it is still there. This event was advertised to youth educators, especially middle school and high school teachers. Why in God's name would they hold an event like this with "a specific focus on teenagers?" It doesn't seem like any feminists called out Planned Parenthood for their actions in this case. This was back in 2014, but I can only find conservative sites talking about it, no feminist ones.

worried19 · 2020-09-11T02:28:30+00:00

Instead, Anderson wrote, Charis regularly spotlights transgender authors, including scheduling a virtual event that will take place on July 16 for two transgender authors of "transmasculine narratives" for children: Lexie Bean (The Ship We Built, a middle grade novel) and Tobly McSmith (Stay Gold, a YA novel). It also organizes support groups for trans teens and for parents of trans children.

And this is supposed to be a feminist bookstore. They're focused on erasing girls. It's disturbing how many books are getting published that feature pre-adolescent children being transitioned. There are apparently dozens of them. Middle school and elementary school and preschool.

worried19 · 2020-08-13T07:14:11+00:00

Even more Orwellian that they're doing it to kids as young as 13 in the USA.

worried19 · 2021-02-13T05:48:59+00:00

Is there an option not to answer? It's none of the university's business how I dress or sit or cut my hair.

Things are so bad out there right now I'm wondering if they're asking this question so they can encourage "cis" GNC people to become trans. And I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I'm imagining GNC women being housed with non-binary or trans natal females if they indicate that they're GNC.

worried19 · 2020-11-18T09:43:12+00:00

Seems like it. The book was selling well before that, but Abigail Shrier was just interviewed on Fox News, so that takes it to a new level of visibility.

worried19 · 2020-10-27T19:22:24+00:00

It's interesting because he does fit the appearance of a conventionally attractive man. I don't see anything about Smith that would indicate people wouldn't be attracted to him as he is. It's sad that he would consider himself a "failed man" in any respect.

worried19 · 2020-10-02T04:26:34+00:00

Oh, almost certainly. I am sure that the average person has zero idea that children in the USA are being put on estrogen and testosterone as young as 11 or 12 and that hundreds of mastectomies have been performed on kids as young as 13.

The mainstream media is too chickenshit to run an expose to bring these facts to anyone's attention. If they did, I'm confident there would be a massive outcry.

worried19 · 2020-08-03T00:49:35+00:00

As if teenage girls don't have enough trouble trying to resist demands for anal sex without magazines for minors encouraging them to try it.

A decent magazine would have an article titled, "Hell no, stay the fuck away from my asshole."

worried19 · 2020-07-20T02:25:06+00:00

I'm fine with using preferred pronouns, but I consider them a courtesy, not a right. I will happily use them for adults as long as they are acting in good faith. However, I don't feel comfortable using them for children.

Gender-neutral pronouns bother me because society has gotten to the point where GNC people are automatically "theyed" by others. Back on the old sub, we had a teacher who posted that she pulled aside a 14 year old GNC girl and asked her for her pronouns. This is harmful and regressive and seems to be happening far more often than not. Feminine women are never assumptively called "they," only masculine ones.

worried19 · 2020-07-17T04:11:41+00:00

It's sad because it's such a peculiar Western phenomenon. Natal women who are calling themselves gay and wanting to sleep with gay men. This wasn't even a thing 20 or 30 years ago. It doesn't exist in most other countries. I don't know how society overlooks that part.

worried19 · 2020-12-22T09:12:19+00:00

Of course they banned it. It's shocking how homosexuality isn't allowed anymore.

If any of the banned lesbians want invites to Ovarit, you can PM me here or on Reddit.

worried19 · 2020-11-18T09:18:52+00:00

I'm female and attracted to men. I've always felt weird about the word "straight," but I am heterosexual.

I never visited this sub when it was on Reddit, but after the banwave, I joined all the ones that were GC adjacent. As a gender nonconforming woman, I'm very concerned about the current situation for fellow GNC women, many of whom are homosexual or bisexual. I'm also distressed by what's happening to GNC children and teenagers.

worried19 · 2020-11-01T23:31:42+00:00

Real question. Is there any evidence of gay trans men existing prior to the 2000s? I heard of one person back in the 80s named Lou Sullivan. Was there ever anyone else? It's fascinating that an entire population with zero historical precedence seems to have appeared out of nowhere, and no one besides us finds it even remotely suspicious.

worried19 · 2020-09-11T04:02:44+00:00

It's really fucking insane. It's like the goddamn gestapo out there. Does the mainstream public not realize that our right to speak and dissent is being eradicated?

worried19 · 2020-09-09T05:22:33+00:00

I was an ally. I wouldn't say I was extremely informed or vocal, but I viewed trans people like gay people, and the only reason I could see to be against them was religion. Since I wasn't religious, it made no sense to think God hated people for being gay or transgender. Homophobia and (by extension) transphobia just seemed stupid.

I still strongly support anti-discrimination laws in areas like housing, employment, public accommodation, marriage, custody, adoption, and so on. I have zero problem with adult transsexuals who transition because they suffer from extreme physical dysphoria. My issue is with the craziness that has erupted over the past 5 or so years, the extreme activists who seek to silence all dissenting opinions, irreversible medical treatments being given to children and teenagers, women's sports and safety in jails and shelters being compromised, etc.

worried19 · 2020-08-24T01:12:41+00:00

You believe girls are born wanting to be dominated and abused?

We may as well all pack up and go home now. There would be no point to feminism if women are born inferior.

worried19 · 2020-08-20T04:53:10+00:00

The lyrics to that song are disgusting and feature multiple derogatory slurs and celebrate women sexually degrading themselves for men.

https://genius.com/Cardi-b-wap-lyrics

I don't know the details of this woman's background, but she clearly did not have a parent (of either sex) who taught her to respect herself. What mother or father in their right mind would be happy about their daughter going around calling herself a whore and bragging about men spitting in her mouth or choking on a man's penis?

No one has a responsibility to anyone.

Well, I think that's a sad way to look at the world. Nihilism is not appealing to me.

worried19 · 2020-08-04T18:23:07+00:00

Heartbreaking poem.

You might also want to post it to s/detrans.

worried19 · 2020-07-27T06:58:53+00:00

True. I don't believe boys are born to want to abuse women. They're corrupted by our society. Articles like this turn every man into an abuser.

worried19 · 2021-06-13T06:08:20+00:00

I remember watching this documentary about a transgender summer camp:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N90m5B2jm80

You can tell it was released back in 2015 because all the talking points hadn't solidified yet. One thing I found most disturbing about the camp is that it collected dozens of GNC little boys together, but the camp did not provide even one GNC adult male role model. There was nothing to indicate that any of these children ever saw an example of an adult man like them.

When children don't see adult models of themselves, they can't picture themselves as adults. It happened to me as a kid. I couldn't picture myself growing up to be a woman like the women around me. Luckily the mid to late 2000s was before children were encouraged to be transgender. So nothing permanent ever resulted from my disidentification with others of the female sex.

This might be an interesting topic for the debate sub, too, if you'd like to crosspost it there.

worried19 · 2020-11-02T04:07:25+00:00

I think it's just part and parcel of their overall ideology. They need kids to accept it before they develop critical thinking skills.

After all, in some areas, SWERFs are considered just as bad as TERFs.

worried19 · 2020-09-12T03:25:55+00:00

I wasn't sure if you thought it was an official list. It's just by a random user, not endorsed or created by the site. Thank goodness for small favors, I guess.

worried19 · 2020-08-15T02:04:53+00:00

This is exactly what activists claim never happens. They claim that every single child is properly identified and that no child would be put on cross-sex hormones after blockers unless they were truly trans.

If this story is true, then that's clearly not the case. And this is not the first detransitioner I've seen on that sub who started when they were middle school age.

This boy is almost certainly sterile as well. Putting a non-virilized male child on estrogen destroys male fertility, as far as I've read.

worried19 · 2020-07-25T21:30:07+00:00

This really concerns me but I wanna stay on that sub.

I'd try your best to be subtly GC. Maybe you can provoke some thought in these kids about what they're saying.

I've seen people in total seriousness write "men, women, and enbies" like they're some actual third sex.

worried19 · 2021-06-16T20:26:03+00:00

Well, I guess this shows what people are up against.

worried19 · 2021-05-24T03:21:30+00:00

Ovarit seems like the best bet. I already spend a lot of time there. That's where the original mods of the Reddit sub moved to.

Right now it's invite only, so PM me if you need a code. It's female focused, but not female exclusive. There are some gender critical men there, too.

worried19 · 2021-03-10T03:33:29+00:00

It wasn't alt right. Plenty of young guys, but most of the people who commented were liberal or moderate and fully accepting of LGB. Most were cool with trans people, they just didn't want to date or have sex with them.

The point of the whole movement was to say that trying to invalidate other people's sexual boundaries is wrong.

worried19 · 2021-01-23T05:09:18+00:00

The implications are unclear, but this certainly doesn't bode well for the protection of single-sex spaces. I'm most worried about prisons, domestic violence and rape shelters, and women's sports, in that order.

worried19 · 2020-12-08T22:42:35+00:00

It's crazy. I'm pissed off at the author for writing a hit piece. On the other hand, I guess this could be also be considered free publicity.

By the way, if anyone wants an invite code to Ovarit, feel free to PM me.

worried19 · 2020-11-01T23:35:02+00:00

This is a fucking 13 year old child. Stuff like this upsets me so much.

worried19 · 2020-10-03T03:16:01+00:00

Eh, I just don't think it's productive to alienate the few trans allies we have. No human being is perfect. There are natal women who claim to be gender critical feminists that I've seen saying problematic things, too. In my opinion, the last thing we need is purity tests. It's better to have imperfect trans allies than none at all.

worried19 · 2020-08-24T05:40:45+00:00

Insane for sure.

The lawsuit era will come too late to save this child.

worried19 · 2020-07-27T01:08:20+00:00

I doubt this would ever happen to me because I live in a conservative state, but I've thought about what I would do. I'd say I consider my gender a private matter and am not comfortable discussing it in public or at work. I'm extremely GNC, so most likely they'd figure I was closeted trans and leave me alone.

worried19 · 2020-07-13T00:54:15+00:00

I wonder if Rowling would ever consider writing a teen book about detransition. God knows, she's the only author with enough power and influence to get one published. There are no fictional books about girls transitioning and then detransitioning. It's scary how many teen books there are with female main characters who identify out of being female. They've exploded over the past couple of years. There are at least a dozen, maybe more.

worried19 · 2021-06-30T01:10:22+00:00

The thing that bugs me most is that the individual didn't use the co-ed area. That makes me pretty certain this was a bad actor with bad motivations. Going into an area fully nude with naked women and underage girls with your male genitals intact makes me think that at the very least their decision was based on validation and entitlement, and worst case scenario, there may have been a predatory sexual motivation.

By the way, I personally have nothing against mixed nudity, but it should be a choice, not forced on people who are expecting a single sex environment. My family was casual about nudity and I was frequently naked around kids and adults of both sexes while changing, and there was nothing weird or traumatizing about it. But that was my family's culture, not society as a whole. I would have no problem being naked around a non-op trans woman as long as it was a designated space for that.

worried19 · 2021-06-19T03:18:00+00:00

I think it would a lot healthier for the community to acknowledge that being trans is nothing to celebrate. At its root, sex and genital dysphoria is a malady. It causes harm to individuals. People should not wish for others to suffer dysphoria nor should they resent or try to stop reasonable attempts to eliminate dysphoria. Why would they want others to suffer if they don't have to, especially children? You can celebrate people in the trans community overcoming obstacles and surviving, living their best lives in spite of dysphoria, but that's quite different from celebrating dysphoria itself. No one should wish for other people to become trans. It's condemning those people to a lifetime of potentially severe mental distress and medical complications.

I also believe that the trans community needs to reckon with the fact that literal sex changes are not possible. In their desperate attempt to deny the reality of sex, things in the trans community have gotten more and more extreme. This not only harms other groups, like women, children, and homosexuals, but harms trans people themselves. Chasing something that is impossible is not good for mental health. Biological sex is fixed. Trans people will always be members of their birth sex, and if they would just come to terms with that, I think it would do wonders for them overall. They can be transsexual, but they should not deny that there are biological differences between them and their target sex. I think if the movement embraced this reality, they would not be so aggressive and hell bent on trying to force "equality" that is not really equality on the population at large.

worried19 · 2021-06-17T02:09:06+00:00

I just feel disheartened. It's like one step forward, two steps back, especially in the USA. I don't understand how this squares with freedom of religion, since there are religions where girls are not allowed to touch males or undress in front of males. I don't understand how politicians can throw high school girls under the bus and remove all chances of them winning competitions because they were not born male. There is no way they can compete against natal males with unaltered bodies who have gone through male puberty. Does Joe Biden care? Do the Democrats care? Of course not. They smear these girls as haters and bigots. It's depressing.

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