Does anyone here know how to counter these people saying sex is not binary because of hermaphrodites and intersex, that binary sexes are "flawed human made taxonomies" and that "you can't see someone's chromosomes and genitals so sex does not matter"? by EverydayIsSad in GenderCritical

[–]vintologi7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You can have a binary classification system if you want, it's just that it's unclear where to draw the line.

It's correct you cannot have both male and female fertility but many people do not have either.

"the evidence in favor of transition isn't strong enough" by vintologi7 in GenderCritical

[–]vintologi7[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Circumcision is done at far larger scale and that's irreversible. That's not the only bad thing that can happen to you

https://vintologi.com/threads/psychiatry-horror-stories.267/page-2#post-4266

btw: it's difficult to have transgender surgery before 18

Does anyone here know how to counter these people saying sex is not binary because of hermaphrodites and intersex, that binary sexes are "flawed human made taxonomies" and that "you can't see someone's chromosomes and genitals so sex does not matter"? by EverydayIsSad in GenderCritical

[–]vintologi7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Several trans females have been able to breastfeed so we are talking about real breasts.

The issue with focusing on genitals/fertility is

  1. it excludes a lot of cis females
  2. it's not actually that relevant for social interactions.

Long-term outcomes for people that transition by vintologi7 in GenderCritical

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I am just pointing out how you are wrong, i am trying not to be too offensive about it.

"the evidence in favor of transition isn't strong enough" by vintologi7 in GenderCritical

[–]vintologi7[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That strategy isn't going to work.

You need a tighter echo-chamber where people cannot easily point out how you are wrong.

"the evidence in favor of transition isn't strong enough" by vintologi7 in GenderCritical

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There is only 12 visitors now.

"the evidence in favor of transition isn't strong enough" by vintologi7 in GenderCritical

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Deplatforming is a highly effective strategy.

TIM complains to DC Metro about JKR billboard; Public agency says too bad, because freedom of speech! by alttrawl in GenderCritical

[–]vintologi7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Its not about her gender.

Long-term outcomes for people that transition by vintologi7 in GenderCritical

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Results from adult transitions are highly relevant. Younger males that transition to female will of course have better resuts since it's significantly easier for them to pass.

Long-term outcomes for people that transition by vintologi7 in GenderCritical

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The desistance happen at puberty and does not mean they wouldn't have benefitted from transition.

You can bank sperm prior to HRT so they will be able to have children.

Does anyone here know how to counter these people saying sex is not binary because of hermaphrodites and intersex, that binary sexes are "flawed human made taxonomies" and that "you can't see someone's chromosomes and genitals so sex does not matter"? by EverydayIsSad in GenderCritical

[–]vintologi7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes you are less of a female if you lack breasts but people pretend this isn't the case as a way to avoid offending people.

Does anyone here know how to counter these people saying sex is not binary because of hermaphrodites and intersex, that binary sexes are "flawed human made taxonomies" and that "you can't see someone's chromosomes and genitals so sex does not matter"? by EverydayIsSad in GenderCritical

[–]vintologi7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I define it after sexual characteristics (overall characteristics).

So you are a trans female if you have changed the biological characteristics to be on the female side of the bimodal distribution.

Does anyone here know how to counter these people saying sex is not binary because of hermaphrodites and intersex, that binary sexes are "flawed human made taxonomies" and that "you can't see someone's chromosomes and genitals so sex does not matter"? by EverydayIsSad in GenderCritical

[–]vintologi7 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I define it after sexual characteristics (overall characteristics).

So you are a trans female if you have changed the biological characteristics to be on the female side of the bimodal distribution.

TIM complains to DC Metro about JKR billboard; Public agency says too bad, because freedom of speech! by alttrawl in GenderCritical

[–]vintologi7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They already had power when the enacted these laws.

Does anyone here know how to counter these people saying sex is not binary because of hermaphrodites and intersex, that binary sexes are "flawed human made taxonomies" and that "you can't see someone's chromosomes and genitals so sex does not matter"? by EverydayIsSad in GenderCritical

[–]vintologi7 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

You need to throw at least one of the following groups under the bus

  1. Infertile humans

  2. intersex humans'

You might think there is some way around this, there isn't.

Does anyone here know how to counter these people saying sex is not binary because of hermaphrodites and intersex, that binary sexes are "flawed human made taxonomies" and that "you can't see someone's chromosomes and genitals so sex does not matter"? by EverydayIsSad in GenderCritical

[–]vintologi7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yea let's exclude all infertile humans to make it binary.

Plenty of intersex individuals can reproduce and many cis females can not.

Does anyone here know how to counter these people saying sex is not binary because of hermaphrodites and intersex, that binary sexes are "flawed human made taxonomies" and that "you can't see someone's chromosomes and genitals so sex does not matter"? by EverydayIsSad in GenderCritical

[–]vintologi7 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Biological sex is a bimodal distribution, that is a scientific reality.

You can try to artificially make it binary but there isn't any clear way to do that for all humans.

Does anyone here know how to counter these people saying sex is not binary because of hermaphrodites and intersex, that binary sexes are "flawed human made taxonomies" and that "you can't see someone's chromosomes and genitals so sex does not matter"? by EverydayIsSad in GenderCritical

[–]vintologi7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sex is binary coz for sexual reproduction to occur two kinds of gametes are required: egg and sperm. And an egg and sperm are required each and very time, no exceptions. Human and mammalian reproduction can't occur, and never has occurred, with only one type of gamete.

That doesn't get you to a binary since there are a lot of people who cannot reproduce at all.

Long-term outcomes for people that transition by vintologi7 in GenderCritical

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A: it's correct a lot of children with gender issues desist at puberty, there is also other issues with puberty blockers which is why i do not promote them. Puberty blockers is just a bad middle ground, full HRT or Nothing is better.

B: If we see bad outcomes for teens it will probably be for AFAB individuals https://vintologi.com/posts/4385

C: you clearly didn't even read what i linked.

Long-term outcomes for people that transition by vintologi7 in GenderCritical

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Young males that transition to female will likely have better outcomes since its a lot easier for them to pass.

TIM complains to DC Metro about JKR billboard; Public agency says too bad, because freedom of speech! by alttrawl in GenderCritical

[–]vintologi7 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

No country on earth has fully free speech.

Remember the question, "What would you do if there were no men on Earth for 24 hours?" - it went viral and women answered mostly like we did by BEB in GenderCritical

[–]vintologi7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That doesn't make it any better to be male.

End the silence on gender identity services - The Post by [deleted] in GenderCritical

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Most detransitioners seem to be AFAB

TIM complains to DC Metro about JKR billboard; Public agency says too bad, because freedom of speech! by alttrawl in GenderCritical

[–]vintologi7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

She is still a problematic individual that needs to be dealt with.

http://vpl.vintologi.com

I think I just peaked again. by guttersunflower in GenderCritical

[–]vintologi7 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

This isn't even that offensive.

Cis females have abortions all the time.

Remember the question, "What would you do if there were no men on Earth for 24 hours?" - it went viral and women answered mostly like we did by BEB in GenderCritical

[–]vintologi7 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Men are not really safer at night

Possibly the craziest thing I've ever read - TiM simulates a pregnancy and now is going to simulate birth as hand maidens cheer him on by BEB in GenderCritical

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https://twitter.com/godblesstoto/status/1311051613960900609/photo/1

It's sad more than anything, not being able to get pregnant as trans female sucks.

TIM complains to DC Metro about JKR billboard; Public agency says too bad, because freedom of speech! by alttrawl in GenderCritical

[–]vintologi7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Free speech isn't always a good thing.

It allowed the nazis to gain power.

75% of California voters oppose sex change surgeries and sterilizing hormones for children under 18 by worried19 in GenderCritical

[–]vintologi7 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

United states is very bigoted against teens. In many states you cannot even give consent to sex at 17.

The issue with this question is that they lumped surgeries and hormone treatment together.

We need to push more males to take estrogen.