If you truly believe we had the technology to fly to the moon in the 60s I’m sorry by jw329 in flatearth

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well to answer your very first question the radio transmission would have been traveling at the speed of light so there would only be a 1.24 second delay, and if you've watched the moon landing video there is a delay and the transmission isn't perfectly clear at all.

How did this place become a liberal shill hole? They seem to live in an alt reality. by Eeek in politics

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Man I hope so we're certainly due for a wave of freedom

So here's a look at Trump's new Social Media Site... by oritos in WorldNews

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inb4:

Hosted on AWS or a major cloud provider

Hate speech rules

Claims to be free speech even though it falls far short of 1A

Centralized with single point of failure

DDoSed immediately

Private user information not stored securely

Payment processor backs out within first week

I want an alt platform to succeed but they all seem to make the same mistakes

Maxine Waters uses race to smear fellow Dems Manchin, Sinema: 'They don't care about blacks' by Chipit in politics

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Maxine dragging the convo down the debate pyramid lol. Blacks support voter ID so there's that.

Pyramid of Debate Refutation and counter-argument seem like they should be always valid, even if moving 'down the pyramid'. Ad Hominem and Name calling should not be OK regardless of direction. Just my thoughts by Antarchomachus in SaidIt

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I'm a free speech absolutist so I'm fine with all of it.

The issue with the pyramid is that not everything is meant to be a debate or even civil discourse. I don't expect people in a meme or shitposting sub to be conversing in the higher tiers, and if I were browsing one that's not what I'd be looking for. Even reddit has /r/roastme which is entirely name calling.

The lower tiers are like mindless action movies. They're not good and they don't contribute to the genre or movie making as a whole. But they are fun to watch sometimes.

Incels can feel a little better about their height now by jet199 in SuperStraight

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I recovered from covid by magnora7 in whatever

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Wait are you telling me a politician is telling his constituents what they want to hear with hopes that he will be reelected? That's fucking insane dude I don't believe you.

Good thing that only applies to the GOP. The Democrats are all completely forthcoming and honest and only have our best interests in mind, which is why the entire Democratic platform is completely aligned with the interests of elites and major corporations, whom they work with directly to control "dangerous misinformation" and decide what opinions we are allowed to have (for our own good). Follow the money.

USA Today deletes controversial pedophilia tweets, stealth-edits headline. The theme of the article tries to argue the psychological situation of pedophiles, claiming it's a condition they're born with, just like being gay. Who predicted this was coming 30 years ago? by Chipit in media_criticism

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Sadistic fantasy always comes first

These people are acting out abuse and rape in their minds

Why should what someone fantasizes or acts out in their mind be of any consequence? Are you arguing in favor of the idea of thought crimes?

USA Today deletes controversial pedophilia tweets, stealth-edits headline. The theme of the article tries to argue the psychological situation of pedophiles, claiming it's a condition they're born with, just like being gay. Who predicted this was coming 30 years ago? by Chipit in media_criticism

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That program was for people who are already sex offenders who committed a crime though. All I'm suggesting is that if you have these feelings but haven't acted on them you should be able to get confidential help from a psychologist or doctor or whatever. Maybe that's already the case.

I'm not talking about people who have already touched kids or distributed CP or anything like that. Those people are criminals if found guilty of their crimes and should be treated as such.

Why isn't the internet free? by yabbit in AskSaidIt

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Free as in liberty or free as in beer? It's not free as in liberty because institutional interests seek to control the flow of information. It's not free as in beer because infrastructure costs money.

USA Today deletes controversial pedophilia tweets, stealth-edits headline. The theme of the article tries to argue the psychological situation of pedophiles, claiming it's a condition they're born with, just like being gay. Who predicted this was coming 30 years ago? by Chipit in media_criticism

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Maybe this is an unpopular opinion but I actually think pedophilia should be treated as a psychological/medical condition - these people need help. As soon as you ACT on those feelings though, you face the wall.

If prices keep rising, a nightmare scenario for the US economy is a real possibility - CNN by IkeConn in TheElephantInTheRoom

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Don't forget if inflation went to 0% tomorrow you'll still be paying the inflated prices for goods. As more people notice the inflation more people will spend their money quickly to get out of the dollar, which will lead to more demand and shorter supply, which will lead to higher prices, etc.

If you have any big purchases planned over the next year or so, now is a good time to make them.

Washington Post awards Biden 'Four Pinocchios' for false claim he was 'arrested' during civil rights protest by P-38lightning in politics

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Is he thinking of Bernie? Poor guy doesn't even know who he is anymore.

Supreme Court blocks Biden OSHA vaccine mandate, allows rule for health care workers by P-38lightning in news

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Thank fuck. It was 6-3 as well which is encouraging.

My dik is smol by yabbit in offmychest

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We know

Pfizer MRNA antibody treatment and Caffeine Intolerance by sickopathogenic in NoNewNormal

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Caffeine could just be exacerbating some other underlying issue (whether caused by the jabs or not). I know Dr. Malone said his jabs caused him pretty severe hypertension (high blood pressure).

Mocking anti-vaxxers’ COVID deaths is ghoulish, yes — but may be necessary by Drewski in politics

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Shalom

ironic

Mocking anti-vaxxers’ COVID deaths is ghoulish, yes — but may be necessary by Drewski in politics

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It should be clear that opposing vaccine mandates as a substitute for opposing vaccination itself is a fundamentally incoherent position.

Opposing mandates isn't a substitute for opposing the vaccine. I am vaccinated. I oppose the mandates. Both can be true.

Obviously, the mandates exist because these diseases threaten not only infected persons themselves, but the community, meaning anyone they come in contact with. That’s the folly of the anti-mandate argument: It places a perverse conception of individual “freedom” in opposition to the communal interest.

Yeah, except we know that these vaccines don't stop or even reduce the spread which was conveniently left out of this argument. The only correlation between the vaccines and the spread of covid is a small positive correlation in places that are highly vaccinated. They don't serve a communal interest at all in that regard.

government mandates have been with us for untold decades. We require drivers to wear seat belts

Not in my state we don't (and we have some of the lowest car insurance rates in the country)

Vaccine mandates themselves have been part of the educational system for longer than anyone can remember in every state in the Union

Vaccine mandates for well tested vaccines that have gone through years of trials and been approved by the FDA. And religious exemptions to those mandates have largely been upheld. Covid vaccines are novel. We know they're experimental because our understanding of how they work and what kind of protection they impart has changed since they were rolled out just a year ago. We have never allowed the Federal government to use "emergency" powers to mandate vaccines for all employees via OSHA - this is a first.

SaidIt Docker edition released by d3rr in SaidIt

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Very cool, thank you for this.

r/forwardsfromhitler & r/forwardsfromklandma are unironically alt-right goldmines. by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

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Yeah a number of people have known this for a while. /r/AHS is a great way to find based subs too. You can completely avoid censorship on r*ddit as long as the content is presented with the correct framing.

Jason Miller’s ‘Free Speech’ Social Media Platform Gettr Bans Users Without Explanation by BravoVictor in politics

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☑ Hosted on AWS

☑ Hate speech rules

I don't know what people expected

“Huge Numbers” of Children Refusing to Wear Face Masks in School by Drewski in pushback

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Turns out even children are smart enough to realize it's fucking pointless.

What are your honest thoughts on Bernie Sanders? by mortyposter in politics

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In 2016 I would have voted for him over Trump, but it was Killary instead so I voted third party. Now he's a sellout and a grifter, no way I would vote for him.

Twitter permanently bans Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene by Drewski in censorship

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Politicians who repeatedly tell lies

You could have just said politicians.

Remember when Adam Schiff (D) objectively lied to the American people multiple times about having evidence of direct of ties between Trump and Russia. When questioned under oath he said the opposite. Why is he still allowed on twitter? That seems like pretty dangerous misinformation given the current political climate. Remember when he doxxed a journalist? Remember when he lied about Russia again just this last November?

Remember Russiagate? Remember when the FBI bugged the Trump campaign based on the Steele Dossier which was known to be false at the time they used it as an excuse to bug the Trump campaign?

Why are all the people involved in this still on Twitter?

Remember when they lied about Trump saying fine people on both sides? Remember when they lied about Trump saying you should inject bleach? Remember when they lied about Trump firing tear gas at people for a photo op? Remember when they lied about 5 people dying on Jan 6?

Remember when they told us the summer of 2020 was mostly peaceful when more people died in those riots than all black people killed by cops in the entire year prior? Remember when Trump was banned from Twitter for "inciting violence" in his tweet that told people to act peacefully and go home? Remember when the Hunter laptop story was silenced because it was "stolen" or "hacked" when it was actually legally obtained?

Remember when they lied about Sandmann? Rittenhouse?

Remember when Biden promised in his campaign that he would never do vaccine mandates? Remember when Pelosi said they don't have the authority to do vaccine mandates? Remember when Fauci said vaccine mandates were unethical and if someone refuses the vaccine that's the end of the conversation? Remember when Fauci said masks don't help? Remember when Fauci said masks help? Remember when Fauci said 2 masks isn't better than 1? Remember when Fauci said 2 masks are better than 1? Remember when Fauci claimed there was no gain of function research at Wuhan? Remember when the NIH claimed there was?

Remember when they told us ivermectin is just horse dewormer? Remember when the Lancet published a fraudulent paper on hydroxycloroquine?

Remember when the WHO said covid doesn't spread person to person? Remember when Pelosi said to go into chinatown at the beginning of the pandemic? That sounds like it qualifies as dangerous misinformation.

Remember when Kamala encouraged Americans to not get vaccinated because it was the "Trump vaccine"? I guess that one is only okay if you're in the right political party.

Remember 15 days to slow the spread? Remember when we were told life would go back to normal after 2 jabs? After 3? After 4? Daily pills?

If you're going to play this game there won't be many politicians or institutions left on social media.

I drink my own piss by yabbit in Introductions

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how did it taste?

The worse reddit gets the better it is for us by yabbit in WatchRedditDie

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This is true. However there's a problem. Pretty early on these platforms realized that if they take a heavy handed approach to censorship it results in mass exodus. That's how reddit initially gained popularity years ago (mass exodus from digg). So they are careful now to ban in small increments instead. It makes it much harder to organize a move and keeps the outcry to a manageable minimum. This is why I think it's so important for every online community to have a bunker set up in advance. By the time you're being targeted by censorship it's already too late.

Twitter permanently bans Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene by Drewski in censorship

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And you think Twitter isn't big corp? You think big pharma, who are making record profits (in the billions) from vaccines this year, aren't benefiting from censoring anything that could affect their bottom line as "dangerous misinformation"? You think that the interests of big tech, big corp, big pharma, and government, all being completely aligned on censorship and "misinformation" is a good thing? Beneficial to society? Can't possibly go wrong?

I don't give a fuck about MTG or what she thinks. The alternate universe you're talking about is one where information is democratized instead of being gated by the data barons of the institutional narrative. The difference between us and them is that we don't seek to censor, and we encourage doing your own research and coming to your own conclusions. Meanwhile the data barons are writing articles about how critical thinking is dangerous and the science can't be questioned.

I stand for the rights of the free exchange of ideas for anyone, regardless of their backing or ideology. Has nothing to do with D or R. They are both running on the same platform of "not the other" and don't give a single fuck about you or I.

Trans prisoners ‘switch gender again’ once freed from women’s units by jet199 in NotTheOnion

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That's awfully convenient brave.

New form of censorship? by magnora7 in censorship

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Anytime I post on r*ddit I delete the account within days, simply because fuck reddit. I guess the obvious solution here would be to modify the code to allow posts by deleted users to reach /top

Google is manipulating "mass formation psychosis" search results by zyxzevn in NoNewNormal

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Google is manipulating all search results

Twitter permanently bans Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene by Drewski in censorship

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I think it's totally cool and good that a major tech oligarch working directly with the government censored the speech of a sitting US congresswomen for the abominable crime of quoting a statistic simply because it was framed in a way that doesn't conform to the institutional narrative.

The institutions that seek to control the free flow of ideas in the information economy obviously have our best interests in mind. That's why any challenge to their ideas is labeled dangerous misinformation. The Pfizer CEO told me that these people are literally responsible for millions of deaths, and he seems pretty trustworthy. There are even direct financial ties between Pfizer and one of the main fact checkers Twitter uses - Reuters. It's for our own protection.

This doesn't seem like a threat to our democracy at all.

I think I got omicron by magnora7 in whatever

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Hope you get well soon. I've been taking D3 + K2 supplements hoping to fortify my immune system a bit. I got a couple jabs back in May but I'm not quite sold on the booster yet. As you said this may be a blessing in disguise if the symptoms are mild and we end up with broad natural immunity.

The World is Laughing as Biden's Screeching Handlers Keep Acting Like Clowns. Might as well be on a leash, ain't that right Joe? by Chipit in politics

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How far we've fallen. Even Biden seems lucid enough to be embarrassed by this.

Rumble Inc., The Neutral Video Platform, to go Public Through Combination With Cantor Fitzgerald's CF Acquisition Corp. VI (Nasdaq: CFVI) by BravoVictor in news

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Not neutral for long with the big money involved and they already ban people for "hate speech"

Project Veritas Exposes Republican Candidate Trashing GOP. Alex Stovall, Republican candidate for US Congress heading into the Arizona primary, has private ideas that he shares only with his BFF from Project Veritas that do not match his public campaign. by Chipit in politics

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Rumble has hate speech rules already baked in. It also now has corporate funding as well as being publicly traded via a SPAC. The CEO recently did an interview on youtube and failed to actually answer any questions about what the hate speech policy is or how it's quantified or offer any clarification whatsoever.

It already does censor, and the CEO claimed videos and channels have already been removed under the ambiguous "hate speech" rule. With corporate/public funding, applying external pressure for more censorship is easy, and it's facilitated by the ambiguous rule they can claim they always had and has never changed.

The writing is already on the wall. If it doesn't censor as much as youtube now, it will soon.

Not saying you shouldn't use Rumble. But temper your expectations and don't put all your eggs in one basket.

Russia Blocks TorProject.org and Begins Blocking of Wider Tor Network by Drewski in censorship

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glowies

On the news sub story about the first death with Omicron, a comment simply saying "Let's not panic" is downvoted and then removed by the moderators by [deleted] in MeanwhileOnReddit

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This 100%. I can't find any source that confirms they died from omicron. They died with omicron.

At least one person infected with the Omicron variant has died

At least one person in the UK has died with the Omicron coronavirus variant

The United Kingdom has reported its first official death of a COVID-19 patient who had the omicron variant

Most people who have omicron only discover it after they're already hospitalized for something else because the symptoms are mild compared to other variants.

Redditinaction by CleverFoolOfEarth in TumblrInAction

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I tried to read through some of the comments in that thread and I just... these people's brains must be wired differently or something. There are so many contradictions I legit can't understand what they're saying.

Google voluntarily de-lists The Pirate Bay by Chipit in censorship

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These are the search results for "the pirate bay" from a Netherlands IP address in case anyone is wondering. Top result is just a proxy to the pirate bay. It is definitely IP based, even searching on google.nl from a US IP worked fine.

Opinion thread: How to survive the vaccine mandates? by TheJamesRocket in debatealtright

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Someone on discussions.app asked this recently in terms of employment and this was my response:

Lie. Say you have natural immunity or say you got the vax. If they question further ask to see their vaccine policy. They should have something in writing. Read through the policy for obvious loopholes. If you can't stall any further, try for a religious exemption. This template has worked for some people apparently: https://vivabarneslaw.locals.com/post/987884/employer-letter-example-vaccine-mandate-objection

Opinion thread: How to survive the vaccine mandates? by TheJamesRocket in debatealtright

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It's not about the vaccine it's about the mandate. My body my choice. I am vaccinated but this is a hill I would die on. If my job forces me to prove my vax status, I will quit my job. The state should not be able to force a medical procedure. And if you lay down and let them, you will never get the right to bodily autonomy back.

Take a step back and look at the broader picture. Why is there any support for the mandate at all? Because if you don't get the vax you're killing grandma, obviously. Ignoring the fact that this is untrue (there's no significant different in spread rates among vaxxed/unvaxxed populations), that dynamic can be applied to almost everything. If we are willing to give up our freedom and bodily autonomy for safety against a virus with a 0.5% death rate among the unvaccinated, imagine what else we'll be willing to give up.

Australia has concentration camps for covid where people who have tested negative for covid are forcefully being detained against their will. Read that again. This is only year 2.

Alec Baldwin says he didn't pull the trigger by [deleted] in news

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inb4 he tries to spin this as guns bad and dangerous and need to be banned. He definitely pulled the trigger.

what is a solid company to register domain name thru? by wonderwoman in technology

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I've had good results with https://namecheap.com

If you want to know why Saidit is a ghost town, look no further than /u/wonderwoman by mongre in SaidIt

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It would literally only take like 1-2 other persons posting non-shit content to counteract this. I highly doubt this person is solely responsible for the lack of content on saidit. I had never even heard of her before this post.

Federal judge blocks Biden’s national vaccine mandate for health-care workers by [deleted] in news

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Good

Twitter allows talk of racial genocide against white people to happen on its platform by [deleted] in politics

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If twitter allowed this kind of talk in general I don't really have a problem with it as a free speech absolutist (though it is still disgusting). But we all know if the race were reversed everyone involved would be banned, lose their jobs, probably be raided by the feds, headline news, congressional hearings, etc.

Ruqqus is Officially Shutting Down by Rastafoo in news

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Not surprising.

The admins gave up on their principles, enacted bad faith rules, banned +MTGOW and +Incels for seemingly no reason other than their own opinions, and burned through a ton of goodwill with their "pivot" post which wasn't even written by them. For months they barely interacted with the community at all, choosing to hide in discord instead. Plenty of users pointed out problems and offered potential solutions, and they reacted in the most childish ways possible, with gifs or memes or not at all, instead of actually addressing concerns.

The mod log in +Ruqqus already shows them deleting comments and posts going a month back: https://ruqqus.com/+Ruqqus/mod/log

The legacy of Ruqqus, as well as the reputation of the admins kek and captainmeta4, will be forever tarnished by their recent fuck ups and abject cowardice. There was a graceful way to shut down Ruqqus if that's what they wanted to do. This wasn't it.

The takeaway is that any centralized solution to speech online is at risk, and only as good as those in charge. Ruqqus as a platform was designed to avoid cabal like behavior, but it's meaningless if you can still organize off the platform (discord) and if your admins (captainmeta4) are unprincipled.

edit: also for anyone wondering, some Ruqqies moved to discussions.app. It's a small community and it needs work, but I have yet to see a single post or comment be removed if you're looking for a free speech haven.

Ruqqus: Revision to Internal Policies Regarding Incitement to Violence. by Drewski in SocialMedia

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Well it says they'll follow Brandenburg but the two things they listed are not related to Brandenburg, so i'm not sure what they plan to enforce. Some people in that thread pointed out that something as simple as "kill all x" or "kys" would meet the target/action criteria, even though they are protected speech and pass Brandenburg.

Ruqqus: Revision to Internal Policies Regarding Incitement to Violence. by Drewski in SocialMedia

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those rules seem really vague and don't really have anything to do with Brandenburg vs Ohio...

Saidit.net Canary #19 by magnora7 in SaiditCanary

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That's just when the last canary wast posted, I edited my post to make it more clear

How Propaganda Replaced Journalism and the Dangers of Third-Party ‘Fact-Checkers’ by scrubking in politics

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Your first two arguments are self defeating. We need fact checks to deal with misinformation, but no one who reads misinformation cares about fact checks? Then we don't need them, right?

Including sources doesn't negate anything I've said. Let me give you an example: https://apnews.com/article/ap-fact-check-final-debate-trump-biden-4d304cf7ce7dee9c228f48bd9b76e8f7

The very first paragraph implies Trump is responsible for all the lies in the entire debate ("set the tone").

Next paragraph Trump "misrepresented the reality of the pandemic" and "insisting against obvious reality" whereas in the paragraph after Biden "was selective on the coronavirus and other matters." The former being a subjective opinion on Trump's part presented as obviously flawed, while the latter is an objective lie on Biden's part presented as "selective."

Coronavirus section: First statement by Trump the fact check starts "No, the coronavirus isn’t going away. It’s coming back." (condescending tone asserting No immediately). Then it says the numbers are rising and cites statistics. But the numbers rising in the short term doesn't mean the overall trend isn't down. The numbers were still below the peak and the stats cited only look at a specific arbitrarily chosen time interval. You can pick any two points on a covid chart and paint a different picture based on the interval you choose. This is an example of lying with statistics.

The next fact check in this section Trump criticizes the response of blue states and Biden says the red states are the ones having spikes in cases. The fact check states: "Neither of them is right. Coronavirus isn’t a red-state problem or a blue-state problem. It’s a public health problem that affects people no matter where they live or what their politics are." That's not a fact, it's an opinion being presented as a fact. And blue states do factually have higher death rates overall (although citing any statistic in a vacuum is misleading).

Next one, Trump states that 2.2 million were projected to die. Fact check says false because that projection was only if nothing were done. That's adding a qualification. But beyond that it's also false. There were epidemiologists who predicted 2.2 million as the "worst" case and 1.1 million as the "best" case.

You're not wrong that the people susceptible to misinformation don't trust fact checks. But people paying attention don't either, because the fact checks are often just as biased and incorrect as the blatant misinformation. They're just disguised better.

So do you really think the solution to this mistrust is to further attempt to gate keep and control information? You stated correctly that people already don't trust the fact checks. So that solution seems antithetical. Instead, there needs to be a move in the other direction. Allow the free and unadulterated exchange of ideas in the public, presented as they are and without qualification. There will still be misinformation and people who fall for it, but at least you're working to regain trust by allowing people to come to their own conclusions.

Saidit.net Canary #19 by magnora7 in SaiditCanary

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This message exactly matches the previous one for anyone wondering. So no change since the last canary

UK: Woman Jailed for 18 Weeks for Being a 'Holocaust Denier' by scrubking in WorldNews

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Oi, do you have a license for those thoughts!?

How Propaganda Replaced Journalism and the Dangers of Third-Party ‘Fact-Checkers’ by scrubking in politics

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I don't think people realize how incredibly dangerous "fact checks" can be. They're easily one of the most potent propaganda tools. For starters not all issues can be condensed to true or false, or even true/false on a scale. You can fact check something with context selectively stripped or added. You can fact check a statement in full or in part. You can add or remove qualifications. You can fact check an opinion, or state an opinion as fact. You can misrepresent a claim. You can lie with statistics or draw conclusions. You can use grammatical cues to set a tone. "Fact check" inherently has an air of authority that implies an objective truth.

All of this gets condensed to a headline "Fact check: true" or "Fact check: false" and people don't read further. And even if they do they don't have the critical thinking to evaluate these issues.

75% of Voters Support Voter ID Laws -- Something Democrats Are Determined to Eliminate by [deleted] in politics

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We already have that, it's called a social security number.

75% of Voters Support Voter ID Laws -- Something Democrats Are Determined to Eliminate by [deleted] in politics

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The methods and scale we did mail in ballots in 2020 was very new. We removed pretty much every possible safeguard, counted ballots post marked after the election, counted ballots with no signature or questionable signatures, sent out ballots without requesting them, etc. Mail-in and absentee ballots were widely regarded as problematic and the least accurate form of voting across partisan lines before they were needed to help Biden win.

75% of Voters Support Voter ID Laws -- Something Democrats Are Determined to Eliminate by [deleted] in politics

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They're citing court rulings, this is all publicly available information. If you don't want their spin lookup the court dockets. Breitbart and the examiner are also Newsguard certified sources.

But I wouldn't rely on any MSM source, left, right, or center. The "reliable" sources told us that Trump asked Georgia to look for election fraud based on an "anonymous" source which they've now all quietly retracted months later since it was patently false.

75% of Voters Support Voter ID Laws -- Something Democrats Are Determined to Eliminate by [deleted] in politics

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There are 17 states on that list that don't require an ID. A voter ID can be issued separately from other forms of ID, for free, and it's bigotry of low expectations to assume people aren't smart enough to get one. We're one of the only democracies that doesn't have voter ID. Some countries consider the vote to be so important they don't even allow absentee style voting, you literally have to fly back home to vote if you're out of country. The bill the house is trying to pass right now (HR 1) actually outlaws voter ID I'm pretty sure.

75% of Voters Support Voter ID Laws -- Something Democrats Are Determined to Eliminate by [deleted] in politics

[–]thoughtcriminal 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There are 17 states that require no ID. In my state they just cross your name off a list. Let's say I (hypothetically of course) knew my neighbor was not voting in the last presidential election. I walk in and give his name and address and vote. Then (again hypothetically) walk in again the next day and vote under my own name. There is no verification. You just need a name and address. And if it's the address of an apartment complex you can just give the address and see the names on the list as they're looking for it and vote a bunch of times as long as they don't recognize you.

You don't write your name or any identifying information on the ballot either. It's fire and forget.

If I had (hypothetically) done the above in the 2020 election I voted twice and did not get caught.

Kerry Says Paris Climate Accord Isn’t Enough, We Will All Die In 9 Years by scrubking in ClimateSkeptics

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We've been all dying in 10 years for the last 50 years now.

5 questions to ask your friends who plan to get the Covid vaccine by [deleted] in corruption

[–]thoughtcriminal 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

1 and 2 are pretty poor arguments imo.

*invents lightbulb* Did you know we've never used electricity to provide light before?

*invents digital camera* Did you know it usually takes complicated equipment, specialized chemicals, and hours of professional work to develop a photo?

3 and 4 are fair arguments. 5 just depends on how much you already trust vaccines and whether or not you have a co-morbidity. The original death rate was actually higher, but we've gotten much better at conventional treatment as we've learned more about the virus.

New Browser-Tracking Hack Works Even When You Flush Caches or Go Incognito | Ars Technica by [deleted] in Security

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they're going to corrupt every facet of web browsing until we're all reading the news through a text only terminal sent by email through tor. RMS was right all along.

Cornell charges students $1,800 for racially-segregated rock climbing class, frantically scrubs website when confronted by scrubking in politics

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I think we agree until the last part where you mentioned a matrix. I think we should remove discrimination as much as possible from the hiring process. But I don't see hiring underrepresented people as necessarily being a positive thing on its own.

The first question to ask would be why are they underrepresented. If it's due to discrimination, let's address it. If it's due to some other factor, like choice, it's not a problem. If the goal is to get underrepresented people in specific fields, I think that should be addressed before they're applying for a job - through education, socioeconomic factors, accessibility to quality education, etc. Addressing the root causes will naturally lead to representations in fields that maximize individual choice and fairness, rather than quotas and artificial balances of immutable characteristics based on statistics and numbers.

House Democrats introduce bill to bar 'twice impeached' former presidents from burial at Arlington National Cemetery by Nemacolin in news

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Healthcare please

Cornell charges students $1,800 for racially-segregated rock climbing class, frantically scrubs website when confronted by scrubking in politics

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You can do this with google business. They asked me if my business "identified as women owned" or "identified as black owned." Clicked them both because it's meaningless and gives me an automatic advantage over anyone who didn't click it. I still show up in regular search results. But now I also show up in the "black owned" results they promoted this last month and "women owned" they will probably promote this next month (woman's month). Stonks. I'll do it again for "LGBTQIA+ owned" in June if they add that.

Cornell charges students $1,800 for racially-segregated rock climbing class, frantically scrubs website when confronted by scrubking in politics

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DNA evidence to prove

Ah yes, I can't wait to live in the utopian society where I'm asked to provide evidence of my ethnicity and a DNA profile to the state so they can determine where I am on the privilege hierarchy prior to looking at my resume. Only then, will we all be truly equal.

I'm doing things differently from here on out. by [deleted] in SaidIt

[–]thoughtcriminal 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Aren't they already conversing at the lowest level of the pyramid though? The pyramid punishes you for bringing the convo down the pyramid, not for conversing within a specific level of it.

I'm doing things differently from here on out. by [deleted] in SaidIt

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Can you clarify on what constitutes a call to violence? The US already has certain criteria that must be met for speech advocating for illegal activity to be illegal, and it's a much much higher bar than speech on here. So what is the bar exactly if not the Brandenburg test?

If I say "kill all X" is that a call to violence even though it's not imminent, non-specific, and not actionable? What if I say something like "traitors should be hanged" or "you should shoot someone trespassing on your property"? What if I say "fight like hell" or "take to the streets"? What about in the context of satire or humor?

These are all questions that need to be answered or the rules will remain ambiguous and prone to bias. I highly doubt you and magnora even have the same idea of what it is. That's a problem.

Wokeness is all the punishment of religion and none of the forgiveness. by hfxB0oyA in ShowerThoughts

[–]thoughtcriminal 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It's a religious dogma with no moral code.

Laura Loomer Blasts Republican Party Leadership for Being Hypocrites Who Are 'All Talk, No Action' on Censorship by scrubking in politics

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She's absolutely correct. The republicans have done nothing about it for 4 years and it's gotten to the point that I'm not sure it even matters anymore. The propaganda and bias is so strong that even if the Biden emails for example were not being censored, no one will believe them anyway.

We already have direct evidence Adam Schiff lied to the public about there being a connection between Trump and Russia. We already know Russiagate was a hoax. We already know Hunter/Biden did the same thing they impeached Trump for. None of it matters, facts don't matter anymore. It's a very dangerous game and we're all playing it. I'm not sure getting rid of the censorship will fix anything at this point. We've waited too long, we're in the midst of an information war and freedom is losing.

Fox lawyers successfully argue in court that given Tucker Carlson's reputation, any reasonable viewer should expect that anything he says is very likely to be complete horseshit. by FreedomUltd in politics

[–]thoughtcriminal 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Awful headline: "You Literally Can't Believe The Facts Tucker Carlson Tells You" The ruling wasn't about Carlson listing off facts, the rhetoric was his opinion which is essentially what the court ruled.

President Trump Actually Paid 100% In Taxes Because He Donated 100% Of His Whitehouse Salary To The Pentagon Thus He Owes Nothing by Trump_WG1WGA in news

[–]thoughtcriminal 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You would have to be an idiot to not avoid taxes to the best of your ability.

President Trump Actually Paid 100% In Taxes Because He Donated 100% Of His Whitehouse Salary To The Pentagon Thus He Owes Nothing by Trump_WG1WGA in news

[–]thoughtcriminal 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The better excuse is that he actually paid 5.2 million in income taxes to the IRS in 2016/2017, which is stated in the original NYT article. He only owed $1500 but he let the IRS keep the extra for carry over losses. Carry over losses from 2008/2009 using a recession tax code that a Democratic House and Senate voted into law under Obama. Fun fact: you don't pay income taxes when you have no income.

Just reposting the pyramid of debate as a reminder for the new influx of users. Didn't know where else to put it. by piss in whatever

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You can converse at any level of the pyramid but repeated dragging the conversation down the pyramid can result in action against your account.

https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/comments/j1/the_saiditnet_terms_and_content_policy/