Wouldn't it be cool if we asked questions about things other than Reddit/Said It or Politics?

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-02T04:27:29+00:00

Come in like you own the place, why don't ya?

I mean, on some level I admire the boldness.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-02T20:21:15+00:00

I'm probably on like 5 FBI lists already, don't need to add pedo shit.

Not my proudest hitting of the smiley face, but here we are.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-02T21:32:29+00:00

Hello qwerty. I actually type using a Dvorak layout. I suppose that should make us enemies.

Let's not let it come to that. . .

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-06T19:26:16+00:00

"Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it."

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-03T20:11:20+00:00

Wow. . . Now that's an interesting fact.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-01T14:11:32+00:00

When the first lockdown started, my wife went to visit her sister (they had planned on a vacation that got cancelled), and so I was up into the AM -- naturally.

Someone posted a meme with the twins from the Shining and something to effect of "I just saw this down the hall. It's going to be a long lockdown."

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-03T07:12:52+00:00

I stopped after two pages.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-02T20:37:04+00:00

I did a little investigating yesterday. One of the top posts on the main Voat page yesterday was someone claiming 99% of all porn is posted by the Jews. I clicked to see if anyone was going to challenge such obviously made-up bullshit. No source. No evidence.

Nope. Everyone was happy to agree with how bad those damn degenerates were.

Further investigation (not on the page after that) showed the echo chamber effects on the site are really bad. Like downvotes get you put in time-outs and such. Just a bubble reality where people believe whatever they want to believe.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-01T19:05:47+00:00

Mine was coaching debate. It's a big reason I'm not that interesting in having any debates with anyone.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-11T20:48:14+00:00

My advice for staying cheerful here is to develop a good sense of whom to ignore. The edgy people either want grunted praise or a gutter-fight, nothing in between.

That's not to say there aren't people here with outside of mainstream views who are willing to gather up some evidence and discuss their thoughts, but that much is often clear from the first post.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-10T05:24:19+00:00

Since the Bank of Japan follows the same loose-money-damn-the-consequences policy, I'm not so sure it matters what race is running these central banks. The damn fools are setting us all up for ruin, however.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-07T16:23:52+00:00

Two things can be bad. It is okay to point out when one thing is worse than another. But that doesn't make the bad thing all the sudden good.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-06T23:27:28+00:00

Did it grow. . . like a little?

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-05T20:24:39+00:00

Fair enough, but clearly a lot of people fall for the scam.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-05T15:54:13+00:00

Well, no judgement there. It just doesn't seem like it's the most fun way to live. Coupled with the fact that it doesn't accomplish anything, I try to avoid it when I can.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-05T05:48:32+00:00

I think they might just play whack-a-mole with people trying to make replacement subs for what is banned. Could be wrong, which is why I have started to pay my dues here.

If the election tightens and/or Trump wins, then I could see a new wave of hysteria.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-03T23:13:53+00:00

Well, you'll live to be this age one day. . . Or it would be sad deal.

Getting older. . . it beats the alternative, as they say.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-03T22:27:05+00:00

Different caption:

". . . Yes, it's me. . . Yes, the usual. . . .And, every 10th one is free, right?"

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-03T21:25:16+00:00

like name three situations that couldn't be handled with swarming and diseases.

I can't. . . so I won't.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-03T20:12:42+00:00

I'm going to plead the fifth on this one.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-03T20:09:53+00:00

Well, that's one way to have the brain stop ticking. . . eventually.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-03T20:07:41+00:00

To be fair, I'm not one of the national socialists or former The_Donald refugees.

Instead, I'm homesteading here so I can start cloning subs when the two weeks is up. I just want a backup plan in case the madness spreads. I'm a free thinker trying to be as accurate as I can (hence the Doomer), but I want life to be pleasant (hence the friendly).

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-03T03:36:16+00:00

I really enjoy it now, but the learning process was pretty frustrating. I was a teacher at the time, so I was able to give up a summer to playing around with it. It was hell for a few days, I was okay at it within a month or so, and it felt like second nature by the end of the summer.

I wasn't convinced to do it because of speed, but rather care for joints -- I believe I've heard your fingers move a one-third of the total distance as they do in qwerty.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-03T02:34:36+00:00

I saw someone mention the Washington Gridlocks.

Maybe the Washington Swamp Monsters?

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-02T20:18:23+00:00

mmm pilsner.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-02T20:15:00+00:00

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Did you type that twice or copy and paste it?

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-02T01:32:01+00:00

Whoa . . . that's so meta. :)

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-01T20:14:01+00:00

Nice.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-01T20:04:25+00:00

Well said u/EATADICK. Well said. . .

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-01T20:02:21+00:00

Looking back, that was a bigger moment than it seemed (at least to me) at the time.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-01T18:53:40+00:00

Or it could even say "this is a place where we don't want to re-explain the same few things over and over, here's a FAQ. . . Come back when you've grown out of noob-erty."

Hmm. That's maybe a little too long.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-01T14:18:50+00:00

The day I can go to a coffee houses or sit in a library again. That's where I liked to write. It was just about the perfect balance of seeing people without being overwhelmed by them.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-01T14:17:10+00:00

That's really it? Nothing involving friends, family, career, or even creative pursuits?

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-01T04:21:32+00:00

I highly doubt you touch any reading material that does not reinforce your beliefs. I doubt you watch conservative YouTube channels with an open mind. I doubt you could make an accurate argument for any ideology besides your own.

What are some of your favorite left reading material that does not enforce your beliefs? How about left YouTube channels that you watch with an open mind? How much time do you spend with that broadening process?

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-28T02:25:10+00:00

Things will probably get better two or three months after the inauguration/reinauguration. Until then, most of the internet is going to suck as politics sucks all of the oxygen out . . . just about everything.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-15T19:25:59+00:00

Given that reality, I just wish our social circles were something more real than online communities formed by taste.

By real, I mean geographically together. People actually able to (and willing to) help each other out.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-14T22:21:48+00:00

Okay, I'll bite . . . then why does the Soviet Union no longer exist?

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-13T23:33:50+00:00

Yup. The Soviets would have exposed that we hadn't, if we hadn't.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-12T06:45:42+00:00

Yeah, the best way to rebel is to promote chill. . .

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-11T20:48:43+00:00

I check it once or twice a day unless i've got a back and forth discussion going.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-11T01:59:02+00:00

The culture of Reddit (meaning the Reddit that was but will never return) was started by a really cool guy, Aaron Swartz. He believed in open source projects. He was too good for this world. May he rest in peace.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-10T22:10:09+00:00

I think we should be honest about that. We should also be honest about the actions of the CIA and our puppet, the IMF, after the war.

Two sub-reddits I thought the oddest were the ones that said the empire did nothing wrong and thanos did nothing wrong. Most people don't like to say something was "on balance better" or "had justifiable motivations." They would much rather say "did nothing wrong."

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-10T08:55:55+00:00

Dude, look at this.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-10T08:53:45+00:00

I'm sure billionaires can get more Drones than Zoomers, friend. Relax a little. Live your life.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-10T08:44:03+00:00

Eh, I really think drones are going to get to the point that you don't really have to worry about numbers of people who want something.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-10T07:55:04+00:00

If you think it's just going to be a race war, what was the point of asking the question? My answer clearly doesn't assume the same future yours does. I don't think it's going to be the "commies" that come out on top, unless you think Billionaires are commies.

(Also, everyone always forgets the Hispanics and the Mormons in these LARP end-game fantasies. Give me a group that has a stable family any day).

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-10T06:09:14+00:00

Yeah, Communism is the worst. No argument here. You can't tear up everything and replace it with central planning.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-10T06:00:33+00:00

I'd say the advice I gave was somewhat similar.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-10T05:59:39+00:00

Read. Collect physical books in case censorship reaches China-levels. Have children. Actually pay attention to them. Raise them to read. Teach them not to associate with people who refuse to learn new things.

Wait for the systems around us to collapse under their own weight. Survive. Read. Show obedience to the new governments that fill he power vacuum.

Even if none of that plants the seeds for the future, it isn't that bad of a life.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-10T05:33:57+00:00

Sometimes the downvotes you get are sweeter than all the upvotes on other posts.

Rediots don't get they've been insulted/are insulting themselves. (Also, a lot of people from Tulsa think they're better than the rest of the state. . . not realizing Blue State folk still see them as hicks).

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-10T05:06:10+00:00

But I still don't see why it's okay to detain people without a trial for an individual crime, and then enslave them.

And yeah, I know Communism is worse. That's why I don't support that either. Two things can be bad, even if one of them is much, much worse. I also am sympathetic to the idea that the Anglo-European powers set up Hitler and that they could have just taken in the European Jews and saved a bunch of lives (. . . then again, since they didn't, how much direct/total control can Jewry be said to have over those countries?).

I'm even open to the idea of super-efficient governments that bypass democracy. I just don't know why we have to always look at the same one country from one short period of time. There's Singapore, there's Dubai, there's the reactionary government of the Two Sicilies, there is Napoleon . . . I mean, the list goes on and on. Mencius Moldbug is right; the structure we are in doesn't work and is going to change.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-10T04:38:55+00:00

Ah, I thought maybe you had given up here.

I was close to hanging it up myself now that Lemmy has gotten faster -- that and my subs haven't been taken out by Reddit yet.

If I stay active here, I'm just not going to answer the "Joo joo joo" stuff. Several of them get pissed when you ask them to explain stuff. Those ones just approval, or a gutter fight, nothing in between.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-09T02:07:25+00:00

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-08T15:07:24+00:00

Wow, that's terrible. It seems like the user purge is the bigger deal.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-08T04:55:20+00:00

I have my backups in place when my main group on Reddit gets deplatformed.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-07T22:45:58+00:00

I appreciate all of that. I'll try to check out the Toland book at some point.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-07T22:37:06+00:00

Sure. I'll agree with all of those things were happening. My point is still that by Hitler declaring War, FDR finally got what he wanted: the ability to openly prosecute a full war against Germany.

In the near future, we'll be doing Deep Fakes of leaders calling us out to start our wars. But that wasn't the case here.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-07T22:25:21+00:00

Hitler wanted to ally with Britain, something forgotten today.

I have heard that recently from studying Mencius Moldbug.

Churchill the warmonger (and he was a warmonger who never wasted a chance to waste the lives of British soldiers)

Another series of dots people don't connect is that Churchill not only completely opposed Ghandi, but when he took to giving speeches he used the same language denigrating "appeasement" that he would later use against the Third Reich.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-07T22:21:57+00:00

they have a middle class.

They do now. I think we can both agree that the relationship is due to be renegotiated.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-07T19:24:35+00:00

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-07T19:15:17+00:00

Yeah, I was trying to be patient. Now that he's at "watch the world burn," I'll just let it pass.

I had time to kill.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-07T19:10:50+00:00

i appreciate you locating what you did.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-07T19:06:28+00:00

Because the U.S. up to that point had a long history of a) the Monroe Doctrine and b) demobilizing immediately after wars. Though we got dragged into WWI, we even demobilized right after it and started referring to that war as "the war to end all wars." War with Germany was a super unpopular idea in the U.S. I recommend William Manchester's book The Glory and the Dream for the background. Though FDR was in fact trying to build that support (and, sure, I'll listen to the theory that he allowed had the intel but let Pearl Harbor happen) he hadn't really gotten there. Hitler declaring war, an act no one but himself made him do, gave all the PR needed to get support for the two-front war.

Look at the actual history of U.S. in protracted wars, such as the Civil War (ie from the North's perspective) or Vietnam. The public gets sick of fighting them. Also, imagine the kind of warfare the U.S. had to do against Japan -- island to island, against suicide runs. In this timeline, we might have grinded through more citizens but not had the A-bomb in time to speed up the surrender of the mainland.

In the meantime, if Hitler wins the Soviet front, he has all the oil he needs. Or, if he wins the U.K. front, he can set up a much better defense against U.S. invasion.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-07T18:55:07+00:00

Are Rockefeller's Jews or Jesuits?

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-07T18:39:04+00:00

wrong again faggot,

I'm happily married and been for years. But your pointless slur is noted.

don't care anymore. only destruction and fire will cleanse now.

Then just lead with that. Don't pretend you're interested in a real conversation. Some men just want to watch the world burn, and all that. . . I will simply ignore you from now on, if you'd prefer that.

again, history channel educated idiot,

I really don't even watch the history channel. I do read quite a bit. I've just never been particularly interested in Nazi Germany from Germany's perspective. Do you read a lot about Finland from their perspective? I can't emphasis this enough, I'm not from Germany. If I'm interested in non-democratic, highly efficient models of government there are other examples. Why would I privilege leaning about this foreign country over any other? It's still foreign.

you're ignorant to the evil USA has done. punishment comes :)

No, this one I know about. I have been interested in my own country. And it is not the story of only Jews and Jesuits doing bad things. Which one do think Bill Clinton is. . .? He's a white redneck turned elitist.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-07T18:25:17+00:00

If you don't want to provide any proof of anything, I don't know why you want to make this one of your hobbies, but to each his own.

The one thing you highlighted was me saying Germany declared war on the U.S. So you do not think Germany declared war on the U.S.? There is recorded evidence of Hitler's speech. We would have focused all our energy on Japan if Hitler hadn't declared war. Churchill himself was glad Hitler did, because the U.S. might have stopped supplying as much to the U.K. (that's in the Wikipedia article above).

If we fought Japan for several years, perhaps Germany would have won one of the two fronts. In either case, they would probably be able to shift into a better defensive stance. I think the U.S. public could then have been convinced it was not worth it. . .

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-07T18:15:20+00:00

You are deflecting.

I happen to agree with Mencius Moldbug's idea of the Cathedral.. In other words, yes, we have a problem here. The left has created a culture of superficial charity that masks power-grabs by the elites. I imagine you think only Jews could be so greedy and scheming, whereas I think most people can be and have been. Communism has been chic in intellectual circles on and off in a way that is truly sickening.

All of that is true. But the Nazi also did a lot of bad things, far more than bad things any democracy I can think of. Are you just going to pretend they didn't?

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-07T18:06:52+00:00

That's a just a bunch of name calling. I'm not stupid on purpose and willing to learn if you have the time (and if you don't have the time it's fine -- but in that case, why start the conversation?).

But random internet stranger (that's you) saying something without any proof (which you're not offering) just isn't going to teach me anything.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-07T17:37:09+00:00

What does that even mean? Did some non-government Jewish groups hold a publicity stunt press conference or something?

I'm not trying to be disrespectful. I just don't know what you're talking about. Do you have a link to something -- ideally, something from a historian or even Wikipedia?

But, war is declared by governments. At that time, we did it through Congress. After that, we started doing it more and more through executive order. Hitler as executive of his country declared war on us.

And, yes, we were supplying the U.K. heavily. But still, declaring the war is a blunder -- maybe even a bigger one than opening up the Soviet front before the U.K. was defeated. I mean, seriously, educate me if you have the time and evidence, but it looks like Hitler had multiple opportunities to shift into a defensive stance, having already acquired "living space" for his people. (I understand oil might be another matter. Still don't declare war on the U.S. The U.S. public would have been it's finicky self).

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-07T16:46:27+00:00

To some extent, it depends on his reasons. He's stated the defensive war thesis. I've never gotten around to researching the time period enough to evaluate it. I've heard there is a great book called Human Smoke, written by a pacifist (so not a Nazi) on the issue. My library only has it as audio book, so I skipped it.

I don't exactly see how the invasion of France was defensive, but I'll listen to someone.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-07T16:35:55+00:00

I think it might be changing soon. Our vulnerability in supply lines is now clear to anyone even remotely thinking about the issue.

I'm going to go full cynic here and say that our billionaires are now stuck with a choice: either move to China or stay in the West. Since I think they'll stay in the West, they'll now start changing the cultural narrative. They already made their money on Chinese labor, so they got what they wanted from pushing this tolerance. They can now switch to robotics and bring a lot of production back (oh. . . jobs at Western wages? I'll believe those when I see them and will be happy if my cynicism was overblown).

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-07T16:27:21+00:00

But I'm not German. . . It's not my country.

I'm American and Nazi Germany declared war on my country after the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-07T02:11:29+00:00

You're welcome. I came across it today.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-07T00:15:29+00:00

I don't think you get it. "Policing" would mean either of us have the ability to shut down the other.

You get to say something. I get to say something. You don't have to like what I say. I don't have to like what you say. Throwing a fucking temper tantrum won't do any good with me. So you fuck off.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-07T00:07:36+00:00

Well, if it was good enough for Reagan it should be good enough for most people.

To further play with the idea a bit. . .

The thing is that a corporation doesn't exist in nature. It only comes into existence with a government charter. Governments could choose to only offer charters to companies that made employees shareholders, diluting shares as new employees come on. This is even compatible with the minarchies that libertarians dream about. If some rich people wanted to make business entities structured so they would reap all the profits -- fine, but they won't be able to have any liability protection that comes with a corporate charter. They would be personally liable for what happens.

But I think there still would be a route to be a capitalist, however. It costs money to purchase the equipment, land, train people, etc. The companies in question would need to borrow money, if nothing else to start out. I don't see why the people who make good loans shouldn't be able to get rich doing so. Capital allocation is a real skill and it has a real value in society. (It's value is not unlimited, however, and too-big-to-fail institutions should have been broken up by now).

I'd be worried about securing retirement in this fantasy scenario, however. You don't want everyone just owning shares in the one company where they worked when it comes retirement time. Some will get rich, some will watch their former company fail. Maybe the bond market mentioned above could roll out diversified products. Or maybe there should be the ability to sale you shares when you retire, and those shares form the index funds.

Don't know. This idea will never happen. It was just fun to kill 10 minutes thinking about it.

Edit to add some words I omitted.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-06T17:28:30+00:00

Or, just read the article.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-06T13:53:34+00:00

OMG. LOL!

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-06T01:34:03+00:00

Not what we were talking about, but . . . okay.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-05T22:57:07+00:00

China's real estate bubble is another point in our favor. But that's only delaying a reckoning. . . one which win, lose, or draw I am not looking forward to.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-05T22:36:03+00:00

Yeah, I my parents had a very small wedding and my grandparents on my dad's side married in front of a justice of the peace. I too was drawn to seeing it statistically demonstrated.

Consider where you'd be next year this time if the dollar collapsed

A very real possibility, I think. Some of depends on if we can hold on as the world's reserve currency. Certainly we're in real jeopardy in our lifetimes.

and wiped out all of your wealth.

Gotta have some of that wealth in a deep pantry, silver, and ammo. Still be a bad situation, but at least not everything is wiped out.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-05T16:13:21+00:00

An elegant solution, I would say.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-05T15:00:10+00:00

I am just conjecturing here, but I think we don't say Independence Day much out of some combination of the U.K. being one of strongest allies on the one hand and a desire to be strong and ergo never "dependent" on the other. I'm pretty sure it used to be more common to say Independence Day.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-05T14:56:16+00:00

Right, just like we don't say "the Christmas." It becomes a proper noun.

Whereas if we moved stuff around "the day of independence" would be required.

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-05T13:40:47+00:00

Only if we add the article "the" to it. After all, we've heard "remember, remember, the 5th of November."

In practice, since we have Christmas and Christmas Eve, and there is only one of each, we would probably never have need to say it. With that said, I'm pretty sure you don't say "the Christmas" unless it needs to move into the adjective slot with something like "I love that I get off for the Christmas Holiday."

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-05T13:32:12+00:00

We say the fourth of July. Because we've added the article, we default back to the normal grammar in our shared language of putting the an adjective before a noun. Makes you wonder why we otherwise have the calendar convention -- but it is what it is. If you look at a calendar, a date is something you can literally point to. So it is easy for our brain to treat it as a noun -- or rather the combination of this fact and the cultural conditioning that is having a language makes us used to parsing it that way. But the holiday itself, is not the calendar item. So it's either "the July 4th holiday" or "the 4th of July" -- and people are almost always going to take the easier route.

Just thinking about how we use it, we mainly flex into calling it the 4th of July when we are talking about it in the capacity of a holiday. An American putting it on the calendar could say something like "what are our plans for July 4th?"

Contrast this with when we talk about it as a holiday, like "what is your favorite food for the fourth of July?"

theFriendlyDoomer · 2020-07-05T13:04:14+00:00

That makes sense. You have the experience to see how these things have played out over time, so I believe you.

theFriendlyDoomer