Black Couple Tortures Kitten at Beach - American Renaissance. Physiognomy incoming. by Fitter_Happier in debatealtright

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I posted this on Reddit with the sole intention of exposing blacks after seeing it on AmRen. It's up to 100k views. I was thinking about posting it here but here it is.

Latest Interracial Crime Stats. A black person is 34 times more likely to attack a white person than the other way around. by A_White_male in news

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I've seen AmRen cite this stat a lot. Has the disparity been increasing or decreasing in recent years?

Why are black people so...fucking loud when they talk? by whatevernevermind in AskSaidIt

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Where are your insights coming from mainly? Thomas Sowell?

Why are black people so...fucking loud when they talk? by whatevernevermind in AskSaidIt

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If you were raised in an urban hellhole all your life, I can see it being difficult to know how to act. But a lot of blacks seem to show the same behavior patterns in suburban areas or wherever else they are.

Also, it just comes down to the sheer number of incidents. For example, if I tried to recall the last 50 times I saw someone being very loud and obnoxious in public and half the time it was blacks, half the time it was whites, it might trigger me to think about how my group biases could be affecting my perceptions. In reality, blacks are acting badly a clear majority of the time and with only a small share of the overall population. It's not even close. For me to get it that wrong is like telling me I'm suffering from outright delusions rather than simply being "biased". I'm not saying you're doing it on purpose, but it has the effect of a sort of racial gaslighting.

I know this is a big ask, but read these accounts. Tell me this doesn't describe blacks spot on. There's a certain power to hearing someone's observations and seeing how closely they link up with your own observations. Some of which you never even consciously noted.

The Wages of Idealism, Urban Law 101

Also, not to give you homework, but google "why are black people so loud". It seems there's a lot of people with this same observation.

Why are black people so...fucking loud when they talk? by whatevernevermind in AskSaidIt

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You say you "agree that it can be annoying", and also seem to have a distinct reference for what I'm saying. I can respect that, but then why did you also say "I don't think you regularly interact with black people"? That doesn't seem to make square with what you had just said. I actually live near one of the blackest cities in the US. I actually like a lot of things about blacks, but if we really tell the truth, there are some serious problems. You mention that blacks will erupt into violence at the slightest provocation and then in the very same sentence, you say I haven't made the case for it being different from japs/americans. Well...that's one clear difference right there: the violence. You're entitled to explain whatever nuance you feel is necessary, but it seems like you're acknowledging what I describe and then somehow denying it.

The cultural differences might be more significant than some believe. I personally believe biology plays into it a little bit. But right now, I'm trying to pin down your admissions of how blacks act in public.

Why are black people so...fucking loud when they talk? by whatevernevermind in AskSaidIt

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The difference is, blacks create actual problems and dysfunction, whereas the difference between Japanese and Americans relates more to subtle preferences or degree of loudness, for example.

Blacks are known to be loud in movie theaters and other places that require "indoor voices". Blacks are known to have trouble being considerate with personal space when they are in spaces that require organization or waiting your turn.

Maybe the average American is a bit louder or more obnoxious than the average Japanese, but it's a difference of degree. Whereas Blacks seems to create utter mayhem at worst, and pretty significant disruptions at best.

Seems like a lot of blacks still support Kanye West by tantamle in debatealtright

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Well, just based on their tribal instincts I wouldn't expect any different. But white liberals seem to believe that blacks can be made to adopt the totality of their racial orthodoxy even when it doesn't benefit them. They may be in for a rude awakening.

The strange history of "Latinx" by tantamle in debatealtright

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White vs other races when it comes to fairness by tantamle in debatealtright

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Every group is committed to things they regard as right, but whites organized societies around principals of fairness and codified them into their laws. Ending slavery, one man/one vote, due process etc. Whites have even taken to treating animals with certain rights. Have black and brown done the same, to a comparable degree?

I'd say it matters simply to understand our own nature and the nature of other races.

Is there any data on how many blacks watch fight videos? by tantamle in debatealtright

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Another thing I noticed....blacks (especially black women) noted that the fight I posted (which was between 2 white women) was very quiet despite there being several others in the room. They can't understand the lack of hooting and hollering.

Is there any merit to opposing mass immigration for economic reasons? by tantamle in debatealtright

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Fair enough, I think it's obvious that this is what's happening to some extent, but are their studies that capture how much money they're sending back?

Is there any merit to opposing mass immigration for economic reasons? by tantamle in debatealtright

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Ok, but that's what I'm saying. You say "if" but is it best to abandon the economic argument or not?

Is there any merit to opposing mass immigration for economic reasons? by tantamle in debatealtright

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Scroll a bit and you'll see sources I provided in a post made a few minutes ago.

The basic idea is, immigration only lowers wages be a negligible amount for high school drop outs, but the overall growth in the economy due to immigration offsets the very small impact on wages for some people.

If this is true, we have to deal with it and stop holding on to a losing point.

Is there any merit to opposing mass immigration for economic reasons? by tantamle in debatealtright

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Ventured over to leftist space, here's the data they often cite to show that immigration DOESN'T hurt wages much:

https://www.nber.org/papers/w12497.pdf National Bureau of Economic Research paper on the effects immigration has on wages in the United States Study contends previous analyses on the relationship between immigration and wages falsely assumed perfect labor substitutability between immigrants and native workers of similar education levels, distorting results Research shows average American wage RISES due to immigration, both short-term and long-term Only native demographic whose wages drop are High School dropouts who suffer a decrease in wages of approximately ~2% short-term, alleviating to ~1.1% over time. Study finds new immigration does severely impact wages of prior immigrants, suggesting lack of substitutability with *natives. Overall, vast majority of American workers’ wages increase from immigration, High School dropouts (<10% of population) experience a slight decrease which alleviates with time (and there is evidence that immigration may increase native High School graduation rates, too).

https://sci-hub.do/10.1016/j.labeco.2014.05.002 Similar research to the above paper, except conducted on the French labor market. Findings are near-identical; immigration leads to across-the-board wage increases for all except a small minority of low-education native workers. Reaffirms conclusion that there is low substitutability between native workers and immigrant workers.

http://davidcard.berkeley.edu/papers/mariel-impact.pdf Famous research on the Mariel Boatlift and the impact of a wave of Cuban immigrants (mostly low-skilled) on the economy of Miami. Research found essentially no impact on native wages, even for low-skilled workers, despite the Mariel Boatlift increasing Miami’s labor force by seven percent. Even former Cuban immigrants didn’t seem to be affected.

Could black nationalists/separatists end up doing a lot of the work for us? by tantamle in debatealtright

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You might be completely right about this.

The only distinction I would make is: Maybe the rhetoric of black nationalists will help establish the incompatibility between blacks and whites. In practice, they'll never actually leave voluntarily, but maybe their rhetoric will help reveal some necessary truths about black and white differences.

Why does every white male leftist have to come up with some mental illness, condition or alternative sexual attraction to define themselves? by tantamle in debatealtright

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Good points all.

To play devil's advocate, I bet the leftist would claim that BEING those identities naturally led them to see the problems with discrimination and hierarchy and that's how they arrived at their views. But it just seems so phony and lame how virtually no white male leftist (especially far left) can come to prominence and just simply accept being a regular white guy. They always have insist on some other minority status.

Sean Last by tantamle in debatealtright

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I'd say they lost because if you simply follow 'point/counterpoint', Vaush and Destiny were the logical winners. They always had a response prepared that directly spoke to the matter at hand. They were actually prepared for what their opponents would say next. I say people lost 'on points' rather than 'KO', meaning a complete drubbing vs being edged out.

And granted, Vaush and Destiny are bullshitters, but it's best to realize that they made arguments that "work" (ie could potentially convince others) vs obvious bullshit and deception.

People on our side, if they want to shove this crap aside and say it doesn't matters, your entitled to your opinion. Me personally, I'm concerned by the extent to which our enemies have evolved their talking points and responses.

Sean Last by tantamle in debatealtright

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James Allsup and Striker lost to Vaush off the top of my head. Literally any search you do for Vaush and race realise/alt-right, Vaush wins on points or worse.

To be fair, Vaush and Destiny don't always debate our best guys and many of them are more 'alt-lite' than anything. But to say they don't come up with plausible responses to our positions is folly.

Sean Last by tantamle in debatealtright

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They do this, but I disagree that this represents all or even most of what they do. It's not like there's no substance to the responses they give to some of our positions. I don't think it serves us well to deny the success they've had. You watch them against Sean Last or JF and they're stumped. But it seems to indicate a weakness on our end that our B level guys are looking "pretty bad" or worse against them.

Although interestingly, some people kind of speculate (like in the comments section of the first video I linked) that deep down, Destiny knows race realism is true. He's also, in a measured sort of way, drifted slowly to the right on a select number of issues. He's still a creep, but maybe Destiny actually has some sense.

This HAS TO be bullshit: Leftist studies that claim that "diversity" is a source of strength by tantamle in debatealtright

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Thanks! I had come across another link that refutes some of that document, but I don't believe it addressed each section of the Vaush document as this does. Great to have.

Studies that purport to show that Gender Transition has a Positive Effect on Trans People by tantamle in debatealtright

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Interesting. My thing is, the fact that academia is in the left's corner gives them a huge advantage in debates. Our arguments ring true to reasonable people, but we can't get completely swept when it comes to research. If we can simply have enough research on our side that the results are ambiguous, our clearly correct arguments will win the day.

This HAS TO be bullshit: Leftist studies that claim that "diversity" is a source of strength by tantamle in debatealtright

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Thanks for the link.

This HAS TO be bullshit: Leftist studies that claim that "diversity" is a source of strength by tantamle in debatealtright

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Maybe, but how can we deploy that in a debate? It will just come across as anti-intellectualism.

Studies that purport to show that Gender Transition has a Positive Effect on Trans People by tantamle in debatealtright

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Thanks for your interest and reply.

I was able to find a document that rebutts the one in OP directly:

https://raceandconflicts.home.blog/2021/03/30/vaush-response-2/

The Trans section is basically at the bottom of the document.

I didn't want to even bring him up to give him the fanfare, but it is in fact the D-bag Youtuber known as V*ush in the OP.

I'm highly suspicious of the vaccination rates of blacks in the US by tantamle in debatealtright

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One thing I'll say works against my theory is that a higher ratio of blacks died from covid, therefore, perhaps blacks are more likely to know someone who died from Covid and got the shot. The black covid death rate is 1.4 times that of the white rate. But if that's what drives a lot of blacks to get the shot, it sure took an unreasonably long time to have an effect. If you go back to a year ago, blacks were I think around 20% less likely to get the shot. Now that gap has apparently closed greatly. But why now? Once again, it makes me wonder if leftists in high places wanted to make blacks look better than they really are.

The NY Times even felt the need to attempt to explain this anomaly: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/13/us/black-americans-vaccine-tuskegee.html

What is your most controversial opinion? by [deleted] in whatever

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whats a brief rundown on why women shouldn't have the right to vote?

Shaun King is selling all-black produced hoodies...for $165 a pop! by tantamle in debatealtright

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lmao

Claim: The only reason blacks commit more crime than whites at comparable income levels is because even relatively better off blacks live in worse neighborhoods by tantamle in debatealtright

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I also don't see how 'crowded living conditions and and broken down infrastructure' drive crime higher rates of crime, so I'm dubious about these claims. These things might have some small psychological effects, but I don't see how a difference as great as the ones we see between poor blacks and poor whites could exist.

Random guy destroys Tim Wise on race realism by tantamle in debatealtright

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This kind of of writing just doesn't lend itself well to that. I thought the author was pretty concise and it's easy to skip around if you'd like.

When modern illusions about race are finally shattered, what excuses/denials will leftists come up with for getting it so wrong? by tantamle in debatealtright

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One I think would be that they're 'so very compassionate' that it 'blinded them to the truth'.

DebateAltRight banned me, and this was my response by [deleted] in SaidIt

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I post there and I'd have to see the specifics but it seems like you're genuine.

Blacks and leftists will concede key points in seemingly unrelated discussions by tantamle in debatealtright

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Come on, man. The obvious implication is that weed use has been supposedly forced on blacks because of the alleged trauma they face due to white supremacy. If the black relationship to weed wasn't unique, why would King even make the statement? King is implying that black circumstance leads to marijuana use. Ok, fine, but if that's the reality on the ground, then it's going to manifest in law enforcement interactions with blacks who deal with marijuana.

The penalties for drug offenses might be part of the leftist conception of a "racist drug war", but the usage rates are constantly trotted out as being the SAME between blacks and whites when ARREST rates are discussed. This article/video breaks this down even more: https://www.amren.com/archives/videos/race-and-drug-arrests-another-big-lie/

Claim: Crime plummeted as America browned by tantamle in debatealtright

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Hmm I’m not sure how statistically significant this is. It probably makes a difference but a smaller difference. Seems like only petty crime can be brushed off. Interesting to note though.

Annoying thing that blacks do by tantamle in debatealtright

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I said "when common courtesy calls for it". Guess I could have worded it better? But I'm referring to a situation where, for example, one person is blocking a walkway, or the classic situation where it's a 'tight squeeze' in a walkway so both people move aside slightly. Or maybe a situation where one person turned a corner and didn't have enough time to see the other, so they both move. Just common sense shit like this. Not expecting every black person to move when they see me coming, lol.

2nd DWI for dude that had his arm shredded by St Kyle. by x0x7 in videos

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Antifa are pieces of shit, but your take on this is so silly that I have to suspect you're a fed.

Rittenhouse acted in self-defense (or at worst, slightly overreacted). But he didn't just set out to "do what needs to be done" in terms of killing random ANTIFA.

That doesn't need to happen, and hasn't happend since.

Winning skirmishes with ANTIFA is nearly irrelevant. We need to win bigger battles. As far as the little battles in the street go, it might be beneficial if the police did their job, and of course, our people in the street come prepared (within reason course). Nothing more needs to happen than that when it comes to fighting Antifa. It's not a main battle.

A black riot shuts down a Cincinnati theme park by tantamle in debatealtright

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A similar thing also happened in "Kentucky Kingdom" amusement park recently: https://www.iheart.com/content/2021-05-19-teens-need-chaperones-at-kentucky-kingdom-after-fights-break-out/

Mark Brahmin releases a video series detailing why whites should move to "Apolloism" by tantamle in debatealtright

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FYI: It is Brahmin doing the narrating. He basically stated on Twitter that he does the accent "for fun".

Even with bodycam footage, Leftists think Daunte Wright was killed intentionally by tantamle in debatealtright

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The female cop was not white? Interesting. I had been trying to determine that. Do you have a source? If not I'm sure I'll come across it.