⚠️ Rules, FAQs, & quick-access links ⚠️ by NutterButterFlutter in LGBDropTheT

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It's been about a year since you've "accepted new posters"

Might as well just delete this sub and kill the place and get it over with

Sunday Social - open chat! by NutterButterFlutter in LGBDropTheT

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It's sort of worthless when almost no one is allowed to post

⚠️ Rules, FAQs, & quick-access links ⚠️ by NutterButterFlutter in LGBDropTheT

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it's your restrictive policies that are choking this sub to death

Who do you feel best articulates your objections to trans ideology? by JulienMayfair in LGBDropTheT

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Me

What's going with straight men and trans people? by Lovebirds_fury in LGBDropTheT

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He's just a bisexual masochist.

The state of “gay porn” being written by trans “men” by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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i don't think the story is meant to be arousing.

Sunday Social - open chat! by NutterButterFlutter in LGBDropTheT

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why not restrict posts so you have to manually approve instead of disabling it

obnoxious

Sunday Social - open chat! by NutterButterFlutter in LGBDropTheT

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can i make a fucking post

Blaire White (finally) comments on our divorce proceedings by wafflegaff in LGBDropTheT

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Amazing how this forum has degenerated to the point that bisexuals openly come on here and call gays pedophiles. Enjoy being straight when gay rights are taken away as you cheer them on and justify it.

Cultist is glad many elder gay men died to AIDS by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

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Because the movement is for lesbians, gays, and bisexuals.

Cultist is glad many elder gay men died to AIDS by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

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"non-binary" and "asexual" or "bisexual"

Sunday Social - open chat! by NutterButterFlutter in LGBDropTheT

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imgbb is the way

Lesbians of the world, does it bother you that so many unattractive straight women pretend to bat for your team until they come out as trans and realise they’re gods gift to gay men? by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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They're into femboys but weren't comfortable enough with it before they take T (because they perceive themselves as more feminine than any male), then they start seeing themselves as masculine and get over it and embrace their attraction.

Ironically the T has nothing but a placebo effect because experiments have shown that it cannot change one's sexuality.

Lesbians of the world, does it bother you that so many unattractive straight women pretend to bat for your team until they come out as trans and realise they’re gods gift to gay men? by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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Were they super butch or just average feminine females?

Was there ever an anti-LGB backlash to an ad campaign with similar consequences to the Bud Light fiasco? by JulienMayfair in LGBDropTheT

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I think fat acceptance gets more hate than gay people from the rightwing these days.

lose weight

Ladies, your genital preferences are killing this attractive lesbian. Be kind! by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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Okay I laughed.

Because straight people make up the majority of the population of course by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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Okay so I’ll explain this from the perspective of a hypothetical MtF person. So more MtF people will have masculinized areas of the brain than cisgender women do so they are more likely to be lesbians. I’m pretty sure gay people have brain structure more similar to the opposite sex than usual. They are biologically male so they are more likely to be attracted to women in essence. Also I think accepting being trans makes you more likely to accept homosexuality.

Oh my god. This comment is almost self-aware.

Sunday Social - open chat! by NutterButterFlutter in LGBDropTheT

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Damn do you guys remember when people used to post on this website and you could have actual conversations because posts were allowed and you didn't have to wait 12 hours for a mod to approve your comment?

Lesbians reclaiming the labrys at last! No… wait… by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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So no one's allowed to post anything but shitty rage-bait reddit reposts?

It's starting, lgbtP by xandit in LGBDropTheT

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And in my region, a bill recently passed protecting the right to abortion and also minors transitioning (same bill). Guys I think we haven't radicalized all the straight liberals into the arms of the alt-right yet, I think we need to step up our game.

Have you found men on lesbian dating apps? by Rage-Xion in LGBDropTheT

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She's started lying about it on the internet recently and pretending she's a dyke, but there are archives showing the creator of HER admitting she's bi, yet she's going to now shove her sexuality down the throats of homosexuals in the most disgusting way.

Sunday Social - open chat! by NutterButterFlutter in LGBDropTheT

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Why is this place so barren and hostile? I've wanted to make so many posts over the YEAR I've been a part of this "community", but there's barely any reason to when we've got one single mod who throttles everything to death, plus the four consistent users who just repost random shit off reddit so we can all point and laugh at the tr*nnys. This place could actually be something good.

Sunday Social - open chat! by NutterButterFlutter in LGBDropTheT

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  1. Could you not have messaged me that any of the times I messaged you asking about it and you just ignored me?
  2. Why not? There's two posts a day and they're by the same two mfers

Sunday Social - open chat! by NutterButterFlutter in LGBDropTheT

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Why is it impossible to get permission to make a post? Can't even get a response from the mods.

Truth telling: Realized my AGP was just a way for me to justify not being homosexual by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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These people are just as homophobic as any straight trans:

Perhaps it was combination of that your mother breastmilk got associated as a baby with trowing up and still looking for a subconsious closer relationship with your father. Breast feading is part of bonding mother and son, by release oxytocin, the same hormone that is released during climaxing on hetrosexual, homesexual, AGP, etc. fantasies. Oxytocin is a happy hormone that creates a warm comforting feeling and nutralizes cortisol, the stress hormone.

https://www.josephnicolosi.com/collection/trauma-as-the-foundation-of-homosexuality

Emotionally Absent Fathers: Furthering the Understanding of Homosexuality

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/009164710403200105

How are your communication and social skills, like to approach someone for a talk?

Truth telling: Realized my AGP was just a way for me to justify not being homosexual by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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Can any gays here actually relate to this man? Even remotely?????

His theory that he's secretly 100% gay and just "meta-attracted to women" sounds in-fucking-sane.

5 useless reasons why lesbians should date this bloke by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

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Sort of weird how he says (speaking to a "potential gf"): "My regular-sized clothes could be your oversized clothes," and then it shows his son wearing an oversized jacket.

Gay marriage is no longer okay because it spawned today's trans insanity 🙃 by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

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The slippery slope argument has turned out to be real.

How? You think allowing same-sex marriage actually led to the whole trans thing blowing up?

r/gaytransguys - How do you stop worrying you are a straight girl fetishing queer guys (even when you are sure you are trans)? .... maybe stop worrying and accept it? .... by Chocolatepudding in LGBDropTheT

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I know that if I start dating a guy now, before I'm out as trans and fully passing as a guy, it'll be seen as a straight relationship which just feel so shit.

I just hate the thought of being a creepy straight girl who just finds gay guys hot so much, it makes me feel so horrible and icky and it makes me insanely dysphoric because I know that that's not the thought that a cis gay guy would have.

Yeahhhh that's not what gender dysphoria is, even a little. She could possibly be experiencing actual dysphoria, however "that's not the thought that a cis gay guy would have" is not it.

Sounds like she knows what she's doing and feels bad about it and when she actually accepts she's just fetishizing gays/being gay or whatever, she feels guilty and disgusted with herself.

"Being gay has 0 to do about sex" by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

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homogenderal lol

Grotesque parody of a woman calls LGB rights veteran a "fucking f@ggot". Drop the T and flush it. by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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Women? We're talking about an elderly gay rights activist...

Why do radical feminists call their boyfriends and husbands Nigel? by stunaep in GenderCritical

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Oh, ok.

"I'm LGBTQ+" by JulienMayfair in LGBDropTheT

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He's a trans bisexual lesbian gay queer non-binary feminine transmasculine xem. Are you seriously invalidating him right now???

She’s gayer than ever now by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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Where would they even grow it? lol. The prostate produces a fluid. Do they think that they also grow tubes to connect it to the rest of their genitals and double up on slime production?

She’s gayer than ever now by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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It just means smiling.

AroAce nearly 14-year-olds these days… by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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Most likely a lesbian. Nowadays, homosexual children are adding "ace" to their phases before they come out.

Their understanding of human sexuality really is deep by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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I really think it's oversimplifying and inaccurate to boil all this down to "the internet". Transing gays has been going on since the beginning of recorded history. It's just that now we have brutal surgeries and hormone treatments to make them pass better so they can fully assimilate into heterosexual society. The curious part is how heterosexuals are now being involved. But thankfully, that addition is causing outrage among heterosexuals.

Not even bothering to include LBG in Pride anymore by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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So they can have someone's 12 year old niece make the flyer for free.

Sunday Social - open chat! by NutterButterFlutter in LGBDropTheT

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What games?

Sunday Social - open chat! by NutterButterFlutter in LGBDropTheT

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Happy Sunday! Loving the cooler weather here.

Absolute queens liberating our rainbow at "Let Women Speak" event in Brighton by spanishprofanity in LGBDropTheT

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Omg she is doing the Nazi salute!!!!! Everyone who doesn't support transsexuality is literally a Nazi!!!! It's not us doing horrific experiments on adults and children, especially homosexual ones, who are reminiscent of the Nazis!!! It's everyone who doesn't think mutilating a gay child's penis is stunning and brave!!

She don't like gay men all that much! Do you do TW? TW: derogatory of gay men by Chocolatepudding in LGBDropTheT

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albeit for TIFs it might have more to do with society's expectations and treatment of women.

We're shooting ourselves in the foot by being inconsistent in our rhetoric and giving undeserved sympathy to straight girls who are obsessed with raping gays to the point that they get hormone treatments and surgery over it, and when they realize they can't just move on from their "phase" as they've irreversibly altered their bodies, their resentment only grows. These people are looking for a community to use and abuse.

She also perceives feminine behavior from them as rebelling against wider society's (righteous) intolerance of their identification. Wonder how common this opinion is there.

The majority of heterosexuals believe this.

What future does LGBDTT have (and perhaps even SaidIt), now that Cloudflare has dropped KiwiFarms? by NutterButterFlutter in LGBDropTheT

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We're back!!!! When did this place reopen? I wanted to make a celebration post but submissions are restricted?

She don't like gay men all that much! Do you do TW? TW: derogatory of gay men by Chocolatepudding in LGBDropTheT

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Being flirty or loud or a partygoer while being gay is pretty queer in a way, because instead of trying to subvert stereotypes, they embrace those parts of themselves, because they're not inherently bad.

"Being loud, overly sexual, and partying are inherent parts of the gay identity and gay people who aren't like that are suppressing an inherent part of themselves and aren't as gay as gays who do have those qualities."

It's just regular homophobia.

Acting super faggy is a rebellion against transmisogyny and the related idea that gay men should be just like other men.

Holy shit they know. They said it out loud. "Trans women", the actual face of the trans movement, the people that transsexuality was invented for, are just gay guys who can't accept themselves. And this commenter also surely believes that heterosexual transsexuals who don't have naturally feminine mannerisms and voices are inherently no different from homosexual transsexuals, except the heterosexual ones have "internalized transmisogyny" as opposed to just being naturally masculine.

Then on the other side...

It's r/gaytransguys, so we can assume that the vast majority of users there, definitely this commenter, are straight women. This is a continuation of "gays just act 'faggy' on purpose". Heterosexuals are convinced that homosexuals fake their mannerisms and voices, despite the fact that what they see is usually a great attempt to hide said traits. And then of course some straight-leaning bisexuals will jump in and tell these heterosexuals (or in this case, heterosexuals will infiltrate on their own, it's just a problem of their kind convincing themselves they are the same as us and interpreting our identities through their prism) that "yes, I'm the gay(/lez) expert and they're faking it! I also fake it too to fit into the group sometimes, but I don't understand why they put on a voice and act camp 24/7 and I don't respect them for it and neither should you! Gay expert out! Duces my het allies, I'm back to degenerating a community I don't belong in. I'll be back to tell you how horrific they are another time."

A comment I picked to prove my point, but you need only scroll. Keep this pattern in the back of your mind, and you'll see it everywhere:

It does sound homophobic, yes, the problem with faggy "mannerism" is a widespread one in this world, it's common in the LGTB+ community to think gay dudes are super privileged but they way of acting and being is still the butt of the joke. You are definitly allowed to not like them, to not like anyone or to only like "masculine" dudes but please don't equate faggotry with cisness: all those "mannerism" can be displayed by trans dudes. Any of those cis gays could have been transmasc and stealth. You don't have a problem with cis dudes, you have a problem with the "loud-type" gay and that problem is not about they being the dominant culture, it is the other way around

These people don't have a clue what's inherent and what isn't. And their opinions on that change like the wind. If a straight girl likes hanging out with a bunch of campy gay dudes who like to party, it's inherent (because they should all be like that and stop suppressing their inner gay bestie side and be her emotional cum rags and party with her and allow her to sexually harass them. Woooooo girlboss), but then when the gay dudes don't like them, they say it's annoying and they're all faking it and need to stop, and she wants them all to channel their inner manly man side and be her big man so she can be sexually attracted to them.

These people see gays as nothing but something to use. And as soon as gays don't serve them, they lash out with homophobia. The only value gays have to these people is what they can do for them.

Maybe I'm a little late to the party, but what is going on with s/LGBDropTheT? by stunaep in GenderCritical

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I'm gay and I sent a couple messages and they've all been ignored. Not sure what's going on since I used to post there.

Anyone remember the 80s? by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

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No, don't read the well-reasoned response. It might change your worldview and force you to accept responsibility.

Anyone remember the 80s? by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

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No, giving civil rights to people who happened to be born homosexual has not "corrupted the children". Nowadays, the vast majority of children who are transed by their parents are subjected to that because their parents think they might be gay or lesbian and are homophobic, or are just braindead people following the advice of "experts". Nowadays, the vast majority of transsexuals are heterosexual, and historically, transing has been something that was done to homosexuals against our will. We didn't create this beast. And overly conservative rhetoric pushes even heterosexuals into becoming transsexuals, so no, more homophobia isn't the solution.

Babe, new acronym just dropped! by stunaep in LGBDropTheT

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How Ovarit feels about homosexual parenthood by stunaep in LGBDropTheT

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Gay males don't even have the right to be alive in some countries.

How Ovarit feels about homosexual parenthood by stunaep in LGBDropTheT

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The soulless demon comment was on some other shit haahaha

How Ovarit feels about homosexual parenthood by stunaep in LGBDropTheT

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Their homophobia is something different from them hating all men, but they do try to mask it by saying "gay men are MEN and that's why we hate them!" but this one slipped and admitted she felt that way about lesbians too, showing it's just pure homophobia which they try to mask with their whole in-group "we hate all men so it's okay, right everyone?"

How Ovarit feels about homosexual parenthood by stunaep in LGBDropTheT

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How Ovarit feels about homosexual parenthood by stunaep in LGBDropTheT

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Homophobia supersedes her attempt at "feminism."

How Ovarit feels about homosexual parenthood by stunaep in LGBDropTheT

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Just why are we supporting “homosexual parenthood” when in fact there is no such thing? Neither two men nor two women can reproduce so their parenthood requires exploitation one way or another. And lies. And is just as much a part of transhumanism and the overturning of the natural order as the other things we decry and they’re all rooted in misogyny, hatred of life and hubris. Nor are the children of these arrangements happy about it. Generations of them are now adults, at least as the product of artificial insemination and IVF. The stories of people born of artificial insemination and donor eggs and raised with no genetic connections or in some cases mothers are out there. They make tragic reading. Many of these people feel like they’re some kind of alien creature, not even fully human. Forever a little disconnected from the rest of society. The same is true of infant adoption.

Don’t misunderstand me. I used to say and believe the exact same thing. Even with my hatred of reproductive slavery I said the same thing but now question all of it. A poster further down questions the ethics of gamete donation so at least I know I’m not alone.

A story. Years ago I was working for a large corporation. A colleague told me that a coworker from another department was coming to show us her baby later. “Wow,” I thought to myself. “A baby. I thought she was a lesbian.” I’d always liked this woman and looked forward to her arrival.

She was a lesbian. She arrived later that day, thin as a whippet, defiantly and awkwardly slinging a gigantic male infant that could not possibly have been born to her. It was painful watching her with this poor child. I had a visceral sense of horror that I was ashamed of but will not disown. Even though it’s taken years to truly admit to myself what my instincts and intuition told me.

She explained that her partner had carried the baby and that they’d purposefully chosen a Jewish donor over six feet tall to make up for their physical tininess. It was like she’d been tasked with looking after the baby of a giantess. The child was dull eyed and disconnected. I don’t think there was anything empirically wrong with him, but something was wrong with him.

Once she’d opened the topic of sperm banks, I asked what she was going to tell the child when he got old enough to ask about his father. “I’ll tell him that he was number 63785 at the sperm bank; that’s all he needs to know.”

“Why do I think that won’t be enough?” I wondered internally. She then offered to let me hold the baby. I instinctively blanched and stepped back and then tried to cover. Because my honest reaction was “No, no thank you. I don’t want to hold your semi-soulless demon baby.” Yeah, I know. It has taken me years to even be honest in my own head about what I felt.

I don’t think homosexual people should have to hide in the shadows or pretend to have best friends when their partner is in fact their life long partner. A visible, respected, equal place in society. But does this really mean turning gay people into fake heterosexuals? I hoped that among other things gay marriage would open up renewed critique of heterosexual marriage. No such luck and somehow an unintended consequence is that it is entrenching the exploitation of women in even more ways than before.

The rush to buy the products of surrogate wombs and eggs and sperm and healthy white infants from teenage girls and in the process create people who don’t even feel like they’re people. Does this truly make homosexual people equal or does it just allow them to take part in patriarchal norms and expectations? You know you’re equal when you can exploit others? What would homosexuality truly accepted by society look like? Is it really as easy as imitation heterosexuality? It’s understandable to want to participate in the social norms of your society. I guess I just didn’t expect that this would involve tripling down on the hatred and exploitation of women. Then again the ownership of women and by extension children is the cornerstone of patriarchy so I guess I really shouldn’t be surprised.

Because all of this is in the same continuum of potentially harvesting wombs to implant them in men. All of it. Surrogacy. Adoption. Reproductive technology and infertility treatment. Gamete harvesting and selling. Transplanted wombs. The sterilization of children so that they can believe that they can change sex. Transhumanism. It’s all misogyny, reproductive slavery and eugenics. And there’s no reason for any of it. It’s not like we are in danger of extinction. So the question becomes why.

Lesbians Have the “Cotton Ceiling” and Gay Men Have the “Boxer Ceiling.” Is There a “Ceiling” for Bisexuals? by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

[–]stunaep 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Off-topic a little, but in your post, are you just calling "lesbophobia" the female version of homophobia and reserving "homophobia" only for males? We experience homophobia in different ways but it's still the same root. Idk I'm just confused about your use of language here.

Babe, new acronym just dropped! by stunaep in LGBDropTheT

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Just heard about it from this article on the Canadian Museum for Human Rights changing it's bathrooms to be 100% unisex (as if that has anything to do with gay rights). I also see it's now the "International Day against Homophobia, Biphobia and Transphobia." So they've included "transphobia," which from conservatives is just homophobia and from liberals, especially gays and lesbians, is just not wanting the practice pushed on us because it's a homophobic practice, and I assume that this version of "transphobia" supersedes actual homophobia because otherwise it couldn't be included.

If you listen to HSTSs speak, they are generally homophobic and give insane reasons for their transition such as Blaire White's classic "I transitioned because I was such a fggt" and no, he was not joking. I can link anyone who would like to hear that, but it's part of a 3-hour podcast. So if I don't agree that the homophobic idea that there is a level of gay you can be that's simply too gay and pushes you over the line into becoming a heterosexual woman and you need to sacrifice your gay identity and put everything you have into imitating a heterosexual woman, that makes me a "transphobe" and it's worse than the homophobic foundation that transsexualism is built on.

Psychotically homophobic (against males) in aleatory Ovarit topic by jamescherry in LGBDropTheT

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This is really over-the-top.

It's actually been a long thought of fantasy from Gay male rights activism that babies would be bred in labs and only boys allowed

You mean... like the exact fantasy radfems have of getting rid of all males and growing girls in a lab? Except the difference is that I have never seen this in gay rights activism before because it's not a tenet---it's a joke---whereas for radfems this is a serious goal.

There is a reason why the harshest critic of gay men that are Republican yet also want to stomp on women's rights exist...and that is because he is still wearing his mask. ;)

It's a common theme for straight people in general to call very evil heterosexual men "secretly gay". It's common on that website too. They often imply that there is something "gay" about heterosexual men mistreating women. "If you were really straight enough to love me, you'd treat me well, but you're not so you must not be straight" is the gist. "You respect your heterosexual male friends more than me so you must be gay." Sacred heterosexuality is presented as the ideal, and any failure of the heterosexual male is deemed homosexuality. Homosexuality is treated as a flaw within otherwise normal heterosexual males.

These are immutable biological traits being treated as character flaws. Notice the parallels between the heterosexual female-supremacist and TRA (who, surprise, are mostly heterosexual) rhetoric. It's cut and dry homophobia. We're caught in the middle of a shit-flinging contest between heterosexual males and females and somehow in the end they try to make it our fault.

Neither of these groups (radfems or TRAs) are on our side. We need to focus on getting OUR voices heard instead of uplifting radical feminists. The situation where Karen Davis's followers bullied Arty Morty was a travesty, but we can't let them silence us. Yes, radfems don't support the T. But not for the same reasons as us. They're conservative and homophobic and are not our allies. They ally with traditional religious conservative homophobes and spout mirrored rhetoric. And they're heterosexuals so their numbers are much greater than ours. But actual resistance, resistance that's going to be able to gain traction and actually push back against transsexualism, has to come from us.

Extreme Homophobia on Ovarit (the norm) by stunaep in LGBDropTheT

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In the 2nd one they're talking about opposing same-sex marriage.

Keep in mind that whenever "gay" FTMs talk having read Yaoi pre-transition, this is what they're referring to by lunarstrain in LGBDropTheT

[–]stunaep 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sorry to keep pressing but how can you be into gay porn if you're a lesbian? Can you please go into detail since this site is anonymous anyway?

Keep in mind that whenever "gay" FTMs talk having read Yaoi pre-transition, this is what they're referring to by lunarstrain in LGBDropTheT

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I ... wanted to be a gay boy, too...

Why? Which role did you want?

AGP perspective: Cross-dressing feels Odd. by TRapostate in GenderCritical

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You never capitalize your "i"s. Please start doing that. You must take responsibility for yourself and you must do that be being as fully behind your self as possible. You capitalize "I" for the same reason you do not crawl around in the world. Or, more accurately, you do it to fully affirm what you say as yours when you use I. And above when I ask you "who" this they you speak of are: avoid hiding yourself behind some amorphous "they" you hope are just like yourself and deal with your self and use "I".

Sorry but this is just insufferable. It's an internet forum post. And this guy is involved with communities of AGPs.

And I very much disagree that he shouldn't post here.

Your comment comes off as very dismissive and I find it odd that you are trying to compartmentalize here. There are fetishistic aspects but he clearly didn't develop the fetish for no reason. There are cultural influences and the way they interact with his personality is very important for understanding the condition. If we want to eradicate this condition we need to understand it, and I, for one, seek to help these people.

why AGP sometimes takes over by TRapostate in GenderCritical

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i would probably be just as vulnerable to sweet talk as any other man. it's just if she tried to seduce me it wouldn't go as expected, i wouldn't have that: [potential sex with female === boner] response. i can get horny to the idea of a having sex with a man but it's more of like an advanced fantasy, "faceless men".

Truthfully, this sounds gay to me but I'll take your word for it for now that you're not gay.

"it's just if she tried to seduce me it wouldn't go as expected" Then how would it go? You'd want to dress up for her and be admired or something? Or there simply wouldn't be a sexual scenario because you don't work like that?

What kind of porn to you watch? M/M feminization? Or str8 or lesbian?

Male Puberty and the loss of childhood innocence, AGP non-sexual motivation. by TRapostate in GenderCritical

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Why were you so afraid of turning out gay? Where did the insecurities come from? Your lack of attraction to girls? Did you have admiring thoughts about boys? You said you felt like you wanted to be protected/dominated by a female presence. Did you ever feel that way about a male? And what's the difference in feeling for you, when you imagine being protected/dominated by a female vs a male?

Minds being lost over Florida bill by JulienMayfair in LGBDropTheT

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I disagree. Children are bombarded by heterosexual messaging non-stop, so simply informing them that there is such a thing as gay or lesbian is helpful for gay and lesbian children. "Children shouldn't know anything about sexuality" well they do. Heterosexual sexuality. And they will continue to be bombarded with such messaging and exposed to heterosexuality. So now we're going to make it illegal to learn that being gay is a thing? Everyone's acting like they're planning on playing gay porn over the projector. No, homosexuality is simply going to be given a tiny fraction of the attention that heterosexuality is given in these children's lives and education, and it will be helpful for homosexual children.

Yes, the trans kids issue did spark this, but Republicans are being homophobic by specifically excluding sexual orientation as well.

why AGP sometimes takes over by TRapostate in GenderCritical

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I assume you're open to questions, but of course you're free to not answer.

Why are you into feminization? Are you a masochist?

Do you truly have zero attraction to absolutely anyone? What kind of people would you imagine having sex with in your fantasies, even if you personally would argue that it isn't true attraction? Would you be having "lesbian" sex with a girl or would you be getting fucked by a man?

Or are you able to get off without even having fantasies that are that sexual? Are you having sex at all in your fantasies or do you just (look at yourself dressed hyperfeminine)/(imagine some scenario related to feminine dress/female anatomy on yourself) and masturbate?

So... would you or not? by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

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We've seen your pics. They're staring in abject horror.

So... would you or not? by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

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Please girl, this isn't the place for your fantasies.

No one's fully gay or straight, folks!!!! by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

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Okay. Hm. That is interesting. Thanks for explaining. Maybe we'll get a little more research in the future.

Misogynistic gay man's god awful journey of becoming a woman, so he can get abused by other men by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

[–]stunaep 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This really isn't misogyny. He just doesn't have any words to describe what he's feeling and is very damaged. I feel bad for him.

She’s ready to unleash that middle-aged virgin ladybear energy at her local gay bar by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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Lol no worries. A drug for women should be developed as well. Africa especially really needs it (HIV is closer to 50/50 males and females there) but you know... money :(

No one's fully gay or straight, folks!!!! by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

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Myself and a few others have mentioned 'bi-cycling'

I have always been really really confused by this concept. Can you explain it to me please?

She’s ready to unleash that middle-aged virgin ladybear energy at her local gay bar by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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It was made for men because men are the vast, vast majority of HIV patients in the U.S.

She’s ready to unleash that middle-aged virgin ladybear energy at her local gay bar by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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It's dangerous for women to take PrEP.

I just saw this posted by a "cis' gay man and I feel so affirmed I'm getting the boobies out and hitting Grindr by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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Even if they were, why would that make them more appealing? "lumps of fat" lmaoo

Transmasc Comphet (and the road to faggotry) by stunaep in LGBDropTheT

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She's a bi woman who decided she prefers feminine males to women.

When did this become a question? Society is regressing. by CleverFoolOfEarth in LGBDropTheT

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Femininity is not the same as being female. For all their blustering about sex and gender being different, they still conflate them nonstop. Sounds pretty transphobic if you ask me.

making friends online by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

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Conservatives are no friend of L&G, nor any adjacent bisexuals...

AskGayBros has a very rigid and exclusively sex based idea of being Gay - what an outrage by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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This guy thinks "romantic orientation" is biological. Incredible.

Simple: Men can't be lesbians by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

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Is this supposed to be proof of heterosexual "AMAB" oppression?

LGB Drop The Hobos...? by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

[–]stunaep 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't think we should call everything that religious fundamentalists accept a "straight ideal".

Except gay men and lesbians don't have literal sex with each other... by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

[–]stunaep 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No one here is saying bisexuals are straight or gay/lesbian. Simply that a relationship can only be either straight or gay/lesbian.

LGB Drop The Hobos...? by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

[–]stunaep 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How is monogamy a "straight" ideal??

Except gay men and lesbians don't have literal sex with each other... by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

[–]stunaep 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So it's straight. Maybe one or both of the people are bisexual, but there are only two possible combinations of relationship. Same-sex, a.k.a. gay or lesbian, or opposite-sex, a.k.a. straight. What's the problem?

What are your opinions on the "GC Coming Out Day"? by reluctant_commenter in LGBDropTheT

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How can I date and find a boyfriend if I am a gay transgender man who doesn't pass... by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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You added the "by nature" part. The cause of this phenomenon was not mentioned, and though it's hardly relevant, the reason why is a combination of biological and sociological factors. Fetishism aside, if you do not agree that the majority of hetero/bihet men and women are at least homophobic, then I suppose we live in two different worlds.

I've been dismissed lmaoooo

This post is a mess. by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

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Thanks for bringing the attention to her post history, it's definitely interesting. I was going to personally ask her some questions, but she said she's a minor and I'd rather just not. Yeah she also posts in r/femboy and r/FTMFemininity so she's definitely feminine. Sounds like she's bihet as well. Do you have any clue why these kinds of people choose to transition? What is the psychology behind it?

I think calling it a fetish is simplifying it, but that's a factor and sure getting attention is also another possible factor, but what is going through their minds? Why do they think "I want to be male" when they're perfectly comfortable being feminine and dating men? Where is the discomfort with their sex coming from? I have personally spoken to this kind of girl before, extensively, yet I just don't get it. She might grow out of this when she's older, but she could also mutilate her body so I think there is something deeper that isn't being explored.

This post is a mess. by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

[–]stunaep 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you can declare someone bisexual and not gay because of feelings and little nuances of their behavior

You can, when such feelings and behavioral nuances include sexual attraction to both sexes lol.

This post is a mess. by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

[–]stunaep 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They're not lesbians. They seem to be very passionate about their attraction to men if you talk to them personally, but they are more reserved about it on these types of public threads.

This post is a mess. by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

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I think it's deeper than that. But there is so little detail that I don't know what it is. They're always so vague about this kind of thing.

This post is a mess. by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

[–]stunaep 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Bi-cycling is not a biological phenomenon. It's psychosocial.

Idk, I think it's about more than just idolization or a desire to be edgy. But they're so vague it's hard to pinpoint exactly what's going on since as you said, they don't go into detail about their feelings for women or men.

How can I date and find a boyfriend if I am a gay transgender man who doesn't pass... by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

[–]stunaep 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And hetero/bihet men and women have been this way since at least the beginning of written history. So it's not overly-broad.