Nestlé, the world’s largest consumer goods company, adds sugar and honey to infant milk and cereal products sold in many poorer countries, contrary to international guidelines aimed at preventing obesity and chronic diseases.

HiddenFox · 2024-04-19T21:36:25+00:00

Nestlé is right up there with Pfizer as one of the most evil companies in existence. They were busted for handing out free formula in Africa when a mother first gave birth. Then, after the mother stopped producing milk naturally they would jack the price of formula. This was a legit strategy they used.

Also read about them trying to buy up all the fresh water too so this latest ass move on them does not surprise me.

thehomelessromantic · 2024-04-19T20:26:31+00:00

shut the fuck up, you beta cunt

Captain_Codpiece · 2024-04-19T20:14:39+00:00

Everything is rigged.

Canbot · 2024-04-19T18:17:09+00:00

The games are rigged.

Drewski · 2024-04-19T17:29:25+00:00

archive.today mirror | archive.org mirror

UncleWillard56 · 2024-04-19T15:34:43+00:00

A tax return is not a crime and who the fuck is this turd to be exposing that to the world. Get a fucking warrant.

Captain_Codpiece · 2024-04-19T12:45:46+00:00

Let the games begin.

blackpoop321 · 2024-04-19T12:20:41+00:00

Good guy Nestle. If you fatten up niggers maybe it won't increase their IQ but they'll probably commit less crime if they can barely move.

hfxB0oyA · 2024-04-19T07:02:37+00:00

She was pretty good looking before her plastic surgery disaster.

ShoahKahn · 2024-04-19T03:32:46+00:00

Nothing burger. Is the Synagogue of Satan attacks, it'll be token and agreed upon, just as the Ayatollah's was. The only victors are the Rytheons and Lookheeb Martins of the world.

ActuallyNot · 2024-04-19T02:51:14+00:00

"After the encounter, during the search of the area, bodies of 29 Maoists were recovered," police said in a statement, adding that several weapons and ammunition were also seized from the location.

They hope they were all Maoists.

Questionable · 2024-04-19T01:30:50+00:00

Is malnutrition technically starvation?

🤔...

RobertAmaral · 2024-04-19T01:12:46+00:00

I find your essays to be very helpful and I truly like reading them. If you have any free time, please come play candy clicker with me. Thank you very much.

Canbot · 2024-04-18T23:46:54+00:00

The 3 day work week should be selectively implemented in industries that are impacted by automation enough to justify it. Any sweeping reform is doomed to be a failure because those who want to see it ended will forever use the worst examples to attack it until everyone has turned against it.

It is a good solution to some problems, it is not a good solution for unemployment itself.

IMissPorn · 2024-04-18T23:40:53+00:00

lol gotta starve those babies, right Klaus?

Titanic · 2024-04-18T19:53:48+00:00

Sugar, I'm convinced, is one of the main culprits for turning our society into a bunch of faggots, retards, and maim victims.

Faggots = because Thomas Aquinas and the medievals realized that sumptous foods, when over indulged, rev up the concupiscable appetite (which we now call dopamine) and lead to insatiable pleasure seeking.

Retards = because having HUGE amounts of sugar can't be good for brain development. Also, if you have too much sugar, you destroy your insulin response, which causes issues regulating your blood sugar and we all know low blood sugar makes people act savage, stupid and insane.

Which explains why now people on the right

maim victims = obesity, heart disease, tooth damage, ovarian cancer, diabetes, insulin desensitization, need I say more?

UncleWillard56 · 2024-04-18T16:08:11+00:00

Not a fan of banning, but none of those words are accurate in describing the Israel-Hamas War.

HiddenFox · 2024-04-17T21:31:17+00:00

^ This. Anyone who thinks the NY Times is journalism is fooling themselves.

neolib · 2024-04-17T20:47:39+00:00

Primary source: https://theintercept.com/2024/04/15/nyt-israel-gaza-genocide-palestine-coverage/

Jiminy · 2024-04-17T18:33:29+00:00

Good. Not genocide

HugodeCrevellier · 2024-04-17T18:20:39+00:00

The NYT does not clumsily 'ban' Journalists
(to the extent that any remain at the NYT)
from using accurate words
('Genocide', 'Occupation' and 'Palestine').

As masters of lies and experts at doublespeak,
they merely instead imply that telling the truth
might be detrimental to your continued employment.

You see, they just want their 'journalists' to
~~keep spewing bullshit~~ ... errr ... use alternative terms,
you know, for 'better clarity and accuracy', of course. :/

SMCAB · 2024-04-17T16:49:56+00:00

NY times banned journalists?

There are no journalists there. The NY times isn't performing journalism.

thomastheglassexpert · 2024-04-16T21:15:00+00:00

Maybe Aussie government does not want a daily in your face reminder of the evil they have gladly welcomed into their country of disarmed servants. I would think next door to NZ their nanny government would do exact same.

CheeseWizard · 2024-04-16T18:18:40+00:00

"Defund the police" 🤡

Ye, the security staff will stop them with flowers. Hey sir, wanna trade a knife for a flower?

YoMamma · 2024-04-16T09:56:50+00:00

Dune1032 · 2024-04-16T02:46:53+00:00

I have no means of presenting my plan. Consequently, we do not know how Israel and the world would respond to it. If my plan is rejected and there is no ceasefire, then the war could spread beyond the region. Remember that World War I started off small but spread.

HugodeCrevellier · 2024-04-15T19:05:03+00:00

He was arrested for posting political opinions.
Persecuting him over this kind of thing is oppressive and totalitarian.
And, unfortunately, you're right, this is also, shockingly,
the same path that Scotland is choosing.

UncleWillard56 · 2024-04-15T18:31:39+00:00

Thank God he wasn't in Scotland! He'd have been shot! Seriously, though, China has a right to create and enforce it's own laws and just because you're a tourist doesn't mean you get a pass. Sounds like he was targeted because of his ancestry and involvement in the Hong Kong protest movement, but still, don't go to China and expect to get a pass. What was he thinking?

YoMamma · 2024-04-15T01:20:50+00:00

If Israel accepts my peace plan, Congress will have nothing to do with it.

Do let us know how Israel's government responds to your plan

If Israel rejects it, the UN should impose a ceasefire. The resolution would be binding. See https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/un-security-council-demanded-gaza-ceasefire-what-happens-now-2024-03-26

It's highly doubtful that the US or Russia would vote 'yes' to a ceasefire order. France, the UK and China might agree to it.

Dune1032 · 2024-04-14T23:55:27+00:00

If Israel accepts my peace plan, Congress will have nothing to do with it. If Israel rejects it, the UN should impose a ceasefire. The resolution would be binding. See https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/un-security-council-demanded-gaza-ceasefire-what-happens-now-2024-03-26/

PragmaticStoicism · 2024-04-14T21:13:24+00:00

That does not justify making up anything you want. It is clear that the bible considers homosexuality a sin.

PragmaticStoicism · 2024-04-14T21:10:23+00:00

Transgenderism is a new invention and did not exist in biblical times.

monkeymagic · 2024-04-14T19:03:31+00:00

universal conflict three: broken grammar jubilee

YoMamma · 2024-04-14T18:04:18+00:00

Biden has already told Israel that the US will not participate in any offensive operation against Iran,

At the moment, because there is no Congressional approval for that

but Biden should also tell Netanyahu that Israel would be on its own if Iran responds to an Israeli offensive operation.

That would be GREAT, but Biden doesn't have the authority to refuse declaring war on Iran

However, as I previously said to stop the conflict Biden should offer this proposal to Israel provided Egypt agrees. Egypt will be given the West Bank enlarged by land equivalent to the Gaza Strip. In return, Israel will be given the Gaza Strip and land at least 3 times larger than the West Bank in the Sinai Peninsula. Some of the land will be adjacent to water so Israel can build desalination plants. The Sinai is inhospitable, and Egypt doesn’t have the technology to develop it, but Israel does. With its new land, Egypt can give it to the Palestinians, make it a state within Egypt, or whatever it wants.

That depends on what Congress wants

If Israel doesn't accept the proposal or it's not feasible, the UN should impose a ceasefire.

Sadly, the UN also cannot arrange a binding resolution

The only way out is for the US Congress, and other governments, to impose sanctions on Israel and threaten to fire on Israel if Israel fires on Iran. That's of course highly unlikely, given the Israel lobby's control of Congress. The only real deterrent would be the threat of a nuclear attack from Iran. I'm not sure that's possible or realistic.

Pdiddler · 2024-04-14T17:06:24+00:00

But Jesus died for your sins so it's okay for christian to be lgbt

Christian Bible warns about false prophets

Dune1032 · 2024-04-14T15:18:44+00:00

Biden has already told Israel that the US will not participate in any offensive operation against Iran, but Biden should also tell Netanyahu that Israel would be on its own if Iran responds to an Israeli offensive operation. However, as I previously said to stop the conflict Biden should offer this proposal to Israel provided Egypt agrees. Egypt will be given the West Bank enlarged by land equivalent to the Gaza Strip. In return, Israel will be given the Gaza Strip and land at least 3 times larger than the West Bank in the Sinai Peninsula. Some of the land will be adjacent to water so Israel can build desalination plants. The Sinai is inhospitable, and Egypt doesn’t have the technology to develop it, but Israel does. With its new land, Egypt can give it to the Palestinians, make it a state within Egypt, or whatever it wants.

If Israel doesn't accept the proposal or it's not feasible, the UN should impose a ceasefire.

SMCAB · 2024-04-14T13:28:50+00:00

You know what I meant. After all that murder and horror, how helpful.

YoMamma · 2024-04-14T10:02:08+00:00

No - Biden doesn't control the weapons agreement with Israel. Congress does that.

The President can influence negotiations, but that's all.

Here's an example of a US president's approach. Obama (mainly) and others stopped Israel from attacking Iran's nuclear program, by negotiating the 'Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action' in 2012-2015:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Comprehensive_Plan_of_Action

As you will see in that link, this involved Obama's initiative at several key stages. Israel was angry that this changed their plans:

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/15/world/middleeast/iran-nuclear-deal-israel.html

https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahus-threats-to-attack-iran-panicked-obama-into-nuke-talks-author-says/

And as you'll see at that Wikipedia link, The Trump administration killed those arrangements in 2017-18.

You won't see this discussed in the Pro-Zionist media. Instead, Israel will use the usual argument that it's defending itself by attacking several countries in the Middle East, thereby dragging the West into those conflicts, as usual.

HugodeCrevellier · 2024-04-14T09:46:52+00:00

You're, unfortunately, right.

And censorship is never used to defend the truth,
since the truth never needed censors/inquisitors.

Censorship is always used to protect some bullshit
(ideology/religion, e.g. Islamism)
from the truth.

And it's getting worse.
Sociopathic turds that claim
to 'protect' people from 'dis/misinformation'
control more and more what
you're allowed to see.

Most notably, in Europe,
if you want to reach RT for example
to get a Russian perspective on global affairs,
good luck, because ....

DAS IST VERBOTEN!!!

... for your own good, of course. :/

binaryblob · 2024-04-14T06:04:45+00:00

I think it's pathetic to attack another country when you don't know beforehand total annihilation will happen. In this case a state without nuclear weapons (a weapon theorized to exist for almost 90 years) attacks one that has enough to destroy the entire Middle East a few times over. Did they want to give a fireworks show? Do you need to be a Muslim to be that stupid?

What's next? Invasion by war elephants?

jet199 · 2024-04-14T05:55:15+00:00

They did, he was taken out by a female cop

Titanic · 2024-04-14T04:13:45+00:00

I haven't done any research into this, but if it's coming out of the "you will own nothing" WEF, it's invariably either a bad idea, a terrible idea, or something so blindingly evil it outdoes Stalin and Hitler combined.

Dune1032 · 2024-04-14T03:34:23+00:00

Then Russia will not be permitted to occupy the Donbas. You are thinking of Trump's plan not mine. Remember in my plan Russia only is permitted to occupy land it seized before the invasion.

Dune1032 · 2024-04-14T03:31:07+00:00

He can since the US supply weapons to Israel, but he doesn't want to. Biden might have to if he realizes that the conflict might lead to more than a regional conflict but a world conflict.

YoMamma · 2024-04-14T01:25:20+00:00

The US President doesn't control Israel, obviously.

Hematomato · 2024-04-14T00:21:25+00:00

Russia occupied Crimea before the invasion, but not the Donbas. That was taken during the invasion.

Dune1032 · 2024-04-14T00:20:51+00:00

Yes, but the land would be land Russia occupied before the invasion. Ukraine would not be permitted to join NATO, but the UN would be obligated to defend Ukraine if Russia invades again.

Hematomato · 2024-04-14T00:14:54+00:00

But the plan is for them to gain new land. The Donbas, plus formal ownership of Crimea.

And then on top of that, to give Putin something he wants even more: an assurance that Ukraine will never be allowed to join NATO.

Dune1032 · 2024-04-14T00:07:06+00:00

No, because Russia would have suffered heavy losses in men and equipment without gaining any new land. You have to be realistic and offer something which will save face for Putin.

Dune1032 · 2024-04-14T00:02:42+00:00

This is similar to my peace proposal which is Russia will be permitted to occupy territory it seized from Ukraine before the February 2022 invasion although the land would legally belong to Ukraine. Russia must withdraw from all land it seized after the invasion. NATO membership will remain as it is. The UN will be obligated to defend Ukraine if Russia invades again.

Note that in my plan Russia's invasion would have gained no new land. The land Russia is permitted to occupy won't be legally Russia's meaning it could be returned to Ukraine in the future. Finally, Ukraine will be protected from future invasions by Russia.

Biden should present my plan to Putin and Zelensky. This way he has a plan to counter Trump's.

Hematomato · 2024-04-13T23:55:33+00:00

The word "appeasement" springs immediately to mind.

Dune1032 · 2024-04-13T23:47:21+00:00

Biden is stupid in letting the Israel Hamas war continue. This is the proposal Biden should offer Israel provided Egypt agrees. Egypt will be given the West Bank enlarged by land equivalent to the Gaza Strip. In return, Israel will be given the Gaza Strip and land at least 3 times larger than the West Bank in the Sinai Peninsula. Some of the land will be adjacent to water so Israel can build desalination plants. The Sinai is inhospitable, and Egypt doesn’t have the technology to develop it, but Israel does. With its new land, Egypt can give it to the Palestinians, make it a state within Egypt, or whatever it wants.

If Israel doesn't accept the proposal or it's not feasible, the UN should impose a ceasefire. The conflict might not be confined to Israel and Iran. If the US attacks Iran, Russia might join Iran's side.

Canbot · 2024-04-13T22:56:15+00:00

Coming soon to a city near you. They already jail people for questioning the holocaust in Europe.

GuyWhite · 2024-04-13T21:35:02+00:00

Mudslimes 1. Joos 0.

GuyWhite · 2024-04-13T21:28:36+00:00

Australia needs common sense knife control laws.

GuyWhite · 2024-04-13T21:19:53+00:00

Joos and mudslimes killing each other.

Please pass the popcorn. It don’t git mo’ fun than this.

Titanic · 2024-04-13T20:47:39+00:00

I'll get the government to do it for me.

But who cares, none of this is an issue anyway. Kids mostly grow out of gender dysphoria by the time they grow up, so I'm ALREADY justified even if you pretended it WAS legitimate surgery.

And then if my kid still wants to dress all lady like and core his cock out at age 18, he can be my guest, as long as he does it somewhere else.

Hematomato · 2024-04-13T19:50:50+00:00

Being locked in a cage isn't going to make a kid any less suicidal. It'll probably make him more suicidal.

So what's the plan, then? Just keep him locked up forever? Feed him through the bars three times a day, dump his chamberpot, and be content that even though he has no future and no prospect for happiness, at least his heart is still beating?

Titanic · 2024-04-13T19:46:58+00:00

I'd only throw my kid in a cage if he wanted to kill himself or mutilate his cock.

Also most of the time gender dysphoria is medical. But sometimes it's a demon

Hematomato · 2024-04-13T19:44:29+00:00

I'm autistic too, that is a medical condition and not a demon.

Says who? The American Psychiatric Association recognizes "Gender Dysphoria in Children" as a medical condition. And there have been many autistic children subjected to exorcisms because their parents thought it was a demon.

God bless your kid. And may God never let you snip his bits off.

I have zero desire to snip anything off of my son.

If he came to me and said "I need a body part removed, it's really really important," I would listen to him carefully. I would talk to his mother. I would talk to our doctor. I would read studies and perspectives from other people who have been through it. After a lot of time and consideration, his mother and I would come to a decision.

What we wouldn't do is throw him in a cage and say "You're not getting out of there until you're normal."

Titanic · 2024-04-13T19:39:58+00:00

I'm autistic too, that is a medical condition and not a demon.

When I hit myself as a kid in autistic meltdowns, my parents stopped me from doing it. Because they loved me too much to see me damage myself for emotional release.

Now I'm long since cured of that impulse, it went away on it's own.

See what I'm saying? I will do the same to any kids I have. God bless your kid. And may God never let you snip his bits off.

Hematomato · 2024-04-13T19:30:01+00:00

I do have a kid. And, in fact, I have a special needs kid. He's autistic and still mostly nonverbal at age eight.

And since I love him, I did hundreds of hours of research about what's best for him and changed my intended parenting style. I play to his strengths. I work with him to help him become the best "him" he can be, whatever that ends up meaning. Maybe he'll be able to get a job and live independently one day. Maybe he won't. Either way will have to be fine.

I don't seek the services of a priest to cast out the autism demon and then just lock him in a cage until he learns to be normal, shouting at him that autism is BAD to have.

Because I'm a dad. Not a sociopath.

Titanic · 2024-04-13T19:26:24+00:00

At least there is a rational reason to want to be taller as a man or prettier as a girl (beauty is good and would make you better off!)

There is ZERO good reason to want to be the other sex, considering both sexes are equal in goodness.

Jihadist · 2024-04-13T19:17:27+00:00

There's probably more CCP agents in America than the whole HK population

Titanic · 2024-04-13T19:09:14+00:00

I heard most kids grow out of it... UNLESS you put them on blockers.

My solution isn't just exorcism, that's only a last resort.

In my view, having a correctly functioning body and being unhappy is better than mutilating yourself for good feels. Look at this: https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/woman-blinded-herself-drain-cleaner-30934249.amp

That's not surgery, that's aiding and abbetting psychotic hallucinations that tell you to DAMAGE yourself. Same thing for gender sodomite mutilation

I also wouldn't lobotomize or electroshock my kid.

I shouldn't have kids? No, YOU shouldn't have kids.

Hematomato · 2024-04-13T18:45:24+00:00

I see. So if you ever have a trans child, your solution is: try exorcism, and when that fails, resort to life in prison at the taxpayer's expense.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but: please don't have children.

Titanic · 2024-04-13T16:31:15+00:00

Fuck their satisfaction. If they feel like they are going to kill themselves if we don't chop off their nads, we shouldn't aid and abet their hallucinations. We should forcibly incarcerate them against their will until they stop being such a hazard to themselves.

SMCAB · 2024-04-13T13:53:58+00:00

Man, if somebody had a gun they probably could have killed that guy.

Ban knives next. Then rocks, then hands.

neolib · 2024-04-13T13:32:06+00:00

A video seen by AP appears to show an attack on a vessel near the Strait of Hormuz that a Mideast defense official alleges Iran carried out on Saturday. The video appears to show a helicopter flying over the vessels as commandos fast-roped down to the ship.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh3AQTBcGQQ

hfxB0oyA · 2024-04-13T10:33:21+00:00

Well it's not a wood chipper, but it's something.

Hematomato · 2024-04-13T04:14:37+00:00

A REAL exorcism, not the garbage those protestants do. I mean the real thing.

Yes, of course REAL exorcisms by REAL Catholic priests have been attempted. Do you seriously think that various Catholics haven't resorted to trying to cast out the demon?

It's "outcome" is destroyed genitals. It doesn't fix the gender dysphoria. The brain is still completely sick.

Its outcome has been shown to be a lower risk of suicide and higher self-reported life satisfaction.

And that is more than can be said for electroshock, drugs, lobotomy, or, um, exorcism.

Titanic · 2024-04-13T03:13:15+00:00

A REAL exorcism, not the garbage those protestants do. I mean the real thing.

observed outcomes

It's "outcome" is destroyed genitals.

It doesn't fix the gender dysphoria. The brain is still completely sick. The body is still male.

It doesn't fix the brain or body, it gives in to the persons demented fetish/delusion.

If a schizophrenic says their arm wants to kill them so they should chop it off, chopping it off to calm them down is not surgery, it's caving to their dangerous delusion and committing an act of grave bodily harm against the mentally disabled.

Hematomato · 2024-04-13T03:02:13+00:00

What about exorcism? Has anyone tried that?

Of course.

Anyways, mutilating yourself to cheer yourself up doesn't count as real surgery any more than a lobotomy for depression does, so it's not justified.

Despite the bizarre claim that it "doesn't count," it's the treatment with the best observed outcomes.

Titanic · 2024-04-13T02:54:05+00:00

What about exorcism? Has anyone tried that? That might work.

Anyways, mutilating yourself to cheer yourself up doesn't count as real surgery any more than a lobotomy for depression does, so it's not justified.

Hematomato · 2024-04-13T01:31:22+00:00

By the way, the pope agrees with me about the mutilation thing, he just wrote a document about how wrong it is.

Yeah, the Pope always lags about a century behind the culture. That's why Pope Francis is the first Pope to ever say "Well I guess it's okay to use condoms in some circumstances."

No, I'll just tell him he's sick but we love him so we're going to the doctor to help.

Do you think doctors are wizards? If there were any known cure for gender dysphoria, everyone would take it. But there isn't.

And that's not for lack of trying. Trans people have been subjected to talk therapy, every kind of medication, behaviorism, aversion therapy, electroshock, lobotomy. Nothing has worked.

Titanic · 2024-04-13T01:21:50+00:00

There was an FAA lawsuit over using dawn soap as a lubricant??

Last time I used dawn dish soap as a lubricant it just chaffed a bit

Titanic · 2024-04-13T01:20:20+00:00

If you want to vote for Putin, use the ordinary looking pen.

If you want to vote for the other guy, use this pen that is funny colors and looks like it came from stage magic set

Titanic · 2024-04-13T01:12:33+00:00

In other words, God isn't resurrecting us with our dick and balls and sexual urges and a wife. Chances are, we don't have anything we'd recognize as "gender".

The dick and balls will still be there, only they will merely never get used.

By the way, the pope agrees with me about the mutilation thing, he just wrote a document about how wrong it is.

Really not much better, and if you feel disgusted, your kid is going to know.

No, I'll just tell him he's sick but we love him so we're going to the doctor to help.

Hematomato · 2024-04-13T00:28:09+00:00

That said this is why I'd tell him he's "mentally ill" rather than "disgusting."

Really not much better, and if you feel disgusted, your kid is going to know.

Don't drop the soap.

You know, getting ass-raped is a small price to pay for not letting my family starve.

Therefore it is "doing evil that good may come of it.", and it biblical

I'd encourage you to read Matthew 22. Or even specifically Matthew 22:30: "At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven."

In other words, God isn't resurrecting us with our dick and balls and sexual urges and a wife. Chances are, we don't have anything we'd recognize as "gender".

Romans 3 is about how a lie in service of spreading Christianity is unacceptable. It isn't some Kantian declaration that all lies are reprehensible.

And then you've got Ephesians 4:29: "Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen."

...only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs.

Which is probably not "You're mentally ill and delusional, kid."

Titanic · 2024-04-13T00:13:46+00:00

He died for your sins, so he can convert you, and send you to heaven.

If you don't obey his rules, his blood is wasted on you and you still go to hell.

Titanic · 2024-04-13T00:12:25+00:00

This is where atheists come from.

I admire atheists. I hate TRA's.

pretty autistic

No need for an ad hominem. That said this is why I'd tell him he's "mentally ill" rather than "disgusting."

you bet your ass I'm robbing a bank.

Don't drop the soap.

unbiblical

Maiming yourself for a fetish or to satisfy a delusion isn't the same as surgery. Therefore it is "doing evil that good may come of it.", and it biblical.

Jihadist · 2024-04-13T00:10:53+00:00

But Jesus died for your sins so it's okay for christian to be lgbt

Titanic · 2024-04-12T23:50:09+00:00

It's against both.

https://www.catholichawaii.org/media/224239/bible_verses_about_homosexuality.pdf

(some of these are old testament, so christians are not commanded to kill gays)

Hematomato · 2024-04-12T23:47:56+00:00

Any statistic to back that up?

How do you compile statistics on that? But isn't it common sense? Maybe you don't have kids, but you've been a kid, right? You can imagine what rejection by your parents feel like? If your parents make it clear that they don't believe you and don't respect you and are kind of disgusted by you - well, fuck, you'd have to be pretty autistic to not be able to understand what that would feel like.

Robbing a bank to feed your family isn't Ok

We don't agree at all. If my kid is starving, and I've exhausted all other options, you bet your ass I'm robbing a bank.

Christ will resurrect you as a man at the end of time.

And this is where atheists come from. When your dad starts ranting non-Biblical stuff about how his god agrees with him, kids think: obviously this religion is bullshit.

Titanic · 2024-04-12T23:38:52+00:00

Any statistic to back that up?

Anyway, even if it were true that refusing to mutilate my son would lead to his suicide, that doesn't make it OK. Robbing a bank to feed your family isn't Ok, so mutilating your son to cheer him up isn't either.

At least when he still has his balls and cock he can always change his mind.

And without his balls and cock, he's still a boy. Just an insane, mutilated one. Sex change is IMPOSSIBLE. I'd drill it into him:

"You are a man. You can never be a lady. Ever. No matter how badly you hurt your bits, Christ will resurrect you as a man at the end of time. It is futile. You will never, ever get this wish."

Hematomato · 2024-04-12T23:19:12+00:00

No, it's much more likely to get you a dead son. When a kid says "I need to transition" and a parent says "you're just a delusionally psychotic boy," suicide becomes very likely.

It might shock you to learn that kids take it pretty hard when their parents don't respect them and tell them they're delusionally psychotic.

Titanic · 2024-04-12T23:16:41+00:00

I go with natural law morality. It's the only one that works with or without God, and the only one tht has an objective basis.

Where does it get me? Well, putting my kid on the transgender path makes me partly responsible for his future suicide. 41%.

Hematomato · 2024-04-12T23:08:27+00:00

Also, it's never OK to lie.

Really? Are you a strict deontologist or something?

Personally I think if armed goons come to the door and say "Are you harboring any dissenters," it's fine to say no.

And if a woman says "Do I look fat in these jeans," you just say "of course not."

And if someone you love needs you to go along with a lie in order to be happy, well, you can grind their face into the dirt in service of integrity, but what does that get you at the end of the day?

Titanic · 2024-04-12T23:06:32+00:00

Lying to a child will lead to them to mutilate themselves.

Also, it's never OK to lie.

Finally, most kids grow out of gender dysphoria unless you chemically abuse them. The dysphoria is the problem, and the drugs make it worse I heard somewhere

Hematomato · 2024-04-12T22:55:43+00:00

I think if you are a fag abusing your kid with chemicals to destroy their puberty, you should be thrown in jail by force

I mean... cool? I personally think that we should throw fewer people in jail by force, but I'm guessing that if the U.S. adopts a "throw more people in jail" policy, you'll be one of the first against the wall.

u/hematomato, if your boy thinks he's a lady from the first instance of his life, that means nothing. It just means he's a delusionally psychotic boy.

And sometimes the recommendation is to play along with a delusion. For example, with people with Alzheimer's, it's not typically recommended to say "No, that's wrong, it's not thirty years ago." It's easier on the patient if you just play along.

Sometimes when you love someone, you prioritize what's helpful to them over what you believe to be true.

Titanic · 2024-04-12T22:42:54+00:00

I think if you are a fag abusing your kid with chemicals to destroy their puberty, you should be thrown in jail by force and your kid should be protected by the state.

Your right to decide for your kid what health procedures they get is not at ALL absolute. If you start blocking their puberty and mutilating their body, the state can and will take you away. And they should.

u/hematomato, if your boy thinks he's a lady from the first instance of his life, that means nothing. It just means he's a delusionally psychotic boy.

DesertOfMirrors · 2024-04-12T22:12:23+00:00

The Bible contradicts itself constantly. On a number of issues. It’s not a problem if you view the Bible as inspiration and not the literal law of God. The Episcopal Church does not view it in the literal way that fundamentalists do.

jerryk · 2024-04-12T21:32:56+00:00

What you feel really doesn't matter much, buddy. They aren't convicting any teachers of relationships with students in Russia, that I've heard of. Let me know if you find otherwise.

Jihadist · 2024-04-12T21:25:47+00:00

Iirc the bible is against transgenderism but not homosexuality

PragmaticStoicism · 2024-04-12T20:21:49+00:00

The bible is clear on the matter. Any priest who rejects the bible in favor of political correctness is blasphemous and should be excommunicated.

UncleWillard56 · 2024-04-12T20:05:18+00:00

11 whole people?! I wonder how many died in India?

UncleWillard56 · 2024-04-12T20:01:06+00:00

100% agreed. I don't think medical decisions should ever be up to the government/state. And in the example I gave, the child wasn't in on the decision, the parent's just made it (based on their doctor's opinion, and I think with all the love and care for their child they had, just not all the information that was available). I don't think children are capable of making those decisions and shouldn't until they are old/mature enough to do so. It's our job to protect them, even from themselves.

Hematomato · 2024-04-12T19:53:47+00:00

So, to me, the question isn't "should I put my kid on puberty blockers." The answer is no. He's a boy and he's never shown any sign of anything else.

To me, the question is: who decides.

My position on that has always been clear (and honestly I don't even know whether this is a liberal or a conservative position anymore): my son belongs to my wife and me. We decide what's best for him. He doesn't belong to the Federal Government of the United States of America. He doesn't belong to the State of Nevada. He belongs to us.

So if there ever comes a time when I know in my heart he needs or doesn't need something - whether that's puberty blockers, whether it's vaccinations, whether it's psychotherapy, any of a thousand things - you know who I want to be in charge of that decision?

If you said "some state senator trying to shore up voter turnout among his base," well, you were wrong.

UncleWillard56 · 2024-04-12T19:48:19+00:00

Funny, while we're having this conversation, someone posted this article in the Atlantic about this very topic:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/04/cass-report-youth-gender-medicine/678031/?gift=SKtFP-7gCBnFn1bNJdqPMjMKWqn37bwn6gvlA8nlBfg&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share

TL/DR - it states there no evidence either way that puberty blockers accomplish this. I still lean toward letting nature take its course. If my child still felt the same way after their body fully developed, I'd 100% support them (love isn't even in question here; don't care what gender they are). It does make a valid argument not to interfere.

Another pov: I saw this documentary from years ago about parents who had an intersex child (not hermaphrodite, but truly intersex). They raised "her" as a girl from birth. Before puberty (realize this is in the 60s or 70s), doctors advised them to basically flip a coin - boy or girl, and they opted for girl because she had been living that way up until this point in time. Later, after she'd become an adult, physically, she never felt right as a woman. She transitioned to he, and resented their parents for making that call. I didn't care for that part, as a parent, I feel for them especially given the time period where trans wasn't talked about and people just went with doctor's advice with little to no question. He ultimately reconciled with them.

Now in that scenario, the parents interfered with this person's development and it was detrimental. Is that any different than parents entertaining puberty blockers, hormones, or (heaven forbid) surgery for a child who feels they're trans? I don't see a difference and I would opt for waiting until they had naturally developed before I was onboard with anything more drastic than socially transitioning (obviously they'd do what the want when they were 18).

Kids questioning everything is universal. Kids wanting agency over their lives while they're figuring out who they are? Also universal. We don't let them drive before at least 16, drink til 21, vote til 18, or do any number of lessor things adults take for granted either. Why would we just throw that out the window when they can socially transition until they're done developing naturally.

Hematomato · 2024-04-12T19:26:00+00:00

There are rare, but documented, cases where a child insists they're in the wrong body from about the first moment they can form that sentence, and never wavers from that.

In a case like that, hormones before puberty are almost certainly necessary for that child to live a happy life.

When kids first start questioning their gender during middle school... there's a very strong chance we're just looking at kids responding to culture. And medical treatment is very likely to do harm.

Ultimately, parents and doctors - not politicians - should be able to tell the difference.

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