GC: What is so hard about using people's preferred pronouns? by Genderbender in GCdebatesQT

[–]pollyesther 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Pronouns are not based on biology.

Pronouns are supposed to be an indicator of someone's sex, not someone's made up sense of gender identity. Sex is strictly defined by the gametes your body was designed to produce, regardless whether your body is actually capable of producing them. Sex cannot be changed no matter what you call yourself, what hormones you take or how many plastic surgeries you have.

I am a cis woman and I am secure in my own identity. Yet when people use "she" for me they are validating my identity. Why is different about trans people?

We use "she" because you are biologically female, not to validate your identity. If you decided to call yourself a man, take hormones and insist other people use he for you we would still use she.

Even if you don't believe in this language you can still return the same respect that Buck gives to you. I don't know if Buck can be considered GC but he holds GC beliefs.

So, just because Buck is nice to us means we are morally obligated to change how we speak?

Buck is a man. He has a beard, deep voice and male levels of testosterone.

Buck is a woman and will always be a woman.

Using preferred pronouns is absolutely a neutral and respectful act. Most major news and information sources use preferred pronouns, and if they didn't TRAs would boycott them. If TRAs were such a tiny minority of people, we wouldn't have this much influence.

No. Saying "he" for a woman is absolutely lying. When I say "women" I am referring to all AFAB adults, regardless how they identify. Just like "man" refers to all AMAB adults as I don't believe in gender identity or that sex can be changed. Like you said TRAs bully people who dare to question the trans narrative. It doesn’t mean most people agree with them, it means TRAs are effective at silencing people.

Both: What do you think about the NHS ending the gender-affirmation care model for youth in England? by worried19 in GCdebatesQT

[–]pollyesther 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is good news.

GC: What is so hard about using people's preferred pronouns? by Genderbender in GCdebatesQT

[–]pollyesther 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Why should I lie for them?

GC: What is the sexual orientation of chasers/gynandromorphophiles? by cars in GCdebatesQT

[–]pollyesther 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He's either gay or bisexual. A man who is attracted to another man is a gay man, regardless if one of those men calls himself a woman and takes hormones. Same with lesbians.

Testosterone science from the university of reddit by deusrhein in GenderCritical

[–]pollyesther 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They think their bodies are different from the bodies of “cis” women.

For people who think bathrooms should be segregated by birth sex, are passing trans men entitled to use the women's bathroom? by [deleted] in GCdebatesQT

[–]pollyesther 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Maybe it's because men know what other men are like and what other men are capable of doing.

Both: What would a healthy non homophobic trans community look like? by Penultimate_Penance in GCdebatesQT

[–]pollyesther 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't think the trans community is healthy. Really, believing you are something you are not is a mental illness. Anyway, to answer the question, don't redefine sexuality. A man attracted to women, including trans men, is either straight or bisexual. Don't force us to pretend it's a gay relationship, because she will never be a man regardless how much she pumps herself with hormones and surgeries. A man attracted to another man, even if he thinks he thinks he's a woman, is either gay or bisexual. Don't force us to pretend it's a straight relationship. Sexuality is defined by what sex people are attracted to, not gender identity. Otherwise it would be called genderality.

QT: Do you support free speech? by pollyesther in GCdebatesQT

[–]pollyesther[S] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Where did I say racists should be allowed to spout bigotry at their job? I mean employees shouldn't be fired for speech outside of work that isn't related to their job.

QT: A question of ideology by loveSloane in GCdebatesQT

[–]pollyesther 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Than find a company that welcomes your transphobia.

You act like finding another job is that simple. It's not. Many of us depend on an income to survive, for food, shelter, clothing, health, etc. If you threaten to take those away simply because someone expresses a different belief about gender identity, you are essentially compelling speech for people who can't afford to lose their jobs. I should be allowed to say trans women aren't women on my Facebook page without having to worry about losing my income.

When I was at my college orientation, they told us harassment is prohibited and one of the examples of harassment they gave is not using someone's preferred pronouns. This is CUNY, my cities only public university system with 28 colleges. Eventually I had a professor who decided she was going by they/them pronouns. If I refused, I would be kicked out of college and unable to transfer credits for a year, even though the pronoun thing goes entirely against what I believe in. I could go to a private college and earn new credits, only to learn they have the same pronoun policy because the trans ideology is EVERYWHERE. We don't really have a choice. We want to have a choice. We want people to stop compelling us to play along with the gander ideology, that's all.

Is pan*sexuality* even a thing? by Mermer in GenderCritical

[–]pollyesther 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There are really only 2 sexes, so you can be same sex attracted, opposite sex attracted or attracted to both or to neither. So it's either straight gay or bisexual or asexual.

How are feminists okay with this? by 889250 in GenderCritical

[–]pollyesther 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

These people are not feminists. They are pretend feminists.

GC: what are the definitions of male and female that do not exclude cis men and cis women who don't produce sperm or egg or removed their genitals? by BubblyBrush in GCdebatesQT

[–]pollyesther 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Your sex is defined by the gametes your body was meant to produce. If your body was meant to produce sperm and impregnate someone, you are male. Even if your body doesn't produce sperm, that is what your body was meant to do. If your body was meant to be pregnant, you are female, even if you are incapable of being pregnant. Sex is binary and immutable.

How are trans people oppressed? by pollyesther in GCdebatesQT

[–]pollyesther[S] 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I lost my job for being trans and was jobless for months and ultimately homeless as a direct result of me being trans.

I would most certainly lose my job for posting on my social media trans women are still biologically male and trans men are biological females. So I guess it goes both ways.

My family disowned me. As did the vast majority of my friends.

Most of my friends disowned me for expressing GC views.

I have been physically attacked (for using a men’s room no less) and knew that I couldn’t call the police because I would be arrested on pretense if I did.

If you were born female you're more than welcome to use the women's room.

It is potentially legal to deny even emergency medical care to use because you don’t like trans people In light of trump’s executive order on the subject.

According to the federal Emergency Medical and Treatment Labor Act a hospital cannot deny you emergency medical care for any reason.

Notice the sub’s name? Guess that means nothing. There’s no space only for women anymore. by letal_22 in GenderCritical

[–]pollyesther 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is sad. A TIM posts about respecting boundaries and not speaking over women (rare among TIMs), and then women say TIMs are allowed to comment there.