Anna Kasparian stumbles over pronouns of former host, while addressing his (MtF) resignation from The Young Turks by xoenix in TumblrInAction

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My theory is that wokescolds are actually essentially people with a "conservative mindset" in a liberal disguise.

(note: I'm not as well-read on Haidt's newer liberty/oppression moral foundation so I'm not including it here)

Haidt says liberals use "harm/care" and "fairness" as their foundations, while conservatives add "authority", "ingroup", and "purity". It's notable that people in the "woke" subset appeal to those foundations as well:

Purity is somewhat obvious; words and actions have taken on a strong association with being "pure" and "impure". Policing speech used to be associated primarily with conservativism (think of religious people getting upset at swearing). Now it's also associated with an ever-changing list of 'acceptable' and 'unacceptable' terms (I still remember the short time when everyone was saying "trans" and they would get upset if you didn't use the "")

Ingroup is reasonably obvious too; there is an extremely strong "us vs. them" mentality among the woke. There are also signaling games—think of how many woke people use explicit visual signals to demonstrate they're one of the "good guys".

Appeal to authority is a little harder; things like the hero-worship of RBG or Stacey Abrams resemble it, but woke culture is just as willing to rip its idols to shreds in the way traditional conservatives may not.

So my theory is that because of the tribalism that's developed in the US political sphere, there are people who should be conservatives, but can't for social reasons (all of their friends and community are ostensibly liberal), so they channel their conservative moral foundations into other avenues.

There are other ways this crops up too, relevant to other research in political psychology. The traditional liberal is characterized by a general optimism about humanity, while the traditional conservative is skeptical and more defensive. Think of a stereotypical liberal hippie perhaps naïvely seeing the best in everyone compared to the stereotypical conservative suburbanite, cautious or afraid of people unlike him.

The woke, though, are observably pessimistic towards other people. The mantra of everybody being racist is cut from the same cloth as the stereotypical conservative idea that everyone is out to get them.

I'm actually really curious what the endgame is here. I kind of expect a realignment at some point, where the cadre of people who hold actual liberal moral foundational values, even if they're at odds with the woke, eventually becomes more of a cultural block. Most of the people that started on the (cultural) left (like myself) have been very reluctant to publicly reveal their adherence to these values due to the social risk, but it feels like we're at a tipping point, and I've had more and more conversations where I'll be talking to someone one-on-one and they'll eventually reveal that they're a little skeptical of some of the woke dogma.

Regarding where the woke end up, I don't see them aligning with traditional conservatives any time soon—even though they have similar moral foundations, there's just way too much object level stuff they disagree with to see eye-to-eye. But I think this is actually par for the course for conservative mindsets. While all people with liberal mindsets naturally glom together (tribalism is alien to their values), "purity", "authority", and especially "ingroup" encourage multiple factions within those with conservative mindsets. For an extreme example, think of the Yugoslav wars, which were essentially fought between multiple different conservative factions, not conservative vs. liberal.

And the Transbian girls go “do do do, doodoo doooo…” by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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but, but, but, aren't lesbians no longer allowed to say they don't like dick?

sometimes they really tell on themselves.

In Israel, a Biblical Tongue Meets Gender Politics by GrilledTofu in TumblrInAction

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Indeed, Semitic languages go one step further than Indo-European languages (e.g. Romance, Slavic, Germanic, etc.) While those languages might have gender on nouns and third-person pronouns, Semitic languages have gender even on second-person pronouns and their equivalent verb conjugations. It's literally impossible to talk to someone without mentioning their gender.

This shit 🙄 by artetolife in LGBDropTheT

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Used to be more common in the past. Lots of very effusive platonic love letters between men in the archives. They unfortunately often get interpreted as "secretly gay" by a lot of modern people because they can't conceptualize the idea of close male friendships

If only there were a solution to this hopeless situation by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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maybe, just maaaybe, he's heartbroken because a woman he cares deeply for wants to cut her perfectly-healthy tits off?

The evidence she's really a gay man was there all the time by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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A lot of people are unaware that Dr. Ray Blanchard (the researcher who first investigated the concept of autogynophilia) includes in his typology of transgenderism a category that would include the person in the linked post. He terms it "autohomoeroticism", meaning "attracted to the idea of participating in gay sex". He notes that much like how autogynophilia only manifests in natal males, autohomoeroticism only manifests in natal females.

It's also subtly different than autogynophilia—while autogynophilia is the sexual attraction to oneself as a woman, autohomoeroticism is the sexual attraction to the participation in (cross-sex) gay relationships. As such, the attraction to lesbian relationships in autogynophiles isn't the actual target of their sexuality, it's just that being in a lesbian relationship is an incredibly strong signal that the person in question is being perceived as a woman (Blanchard also notes that exhibitionism is also extremely common in autogynophiles).

On the other hand, for autohomoerotics, the gay male relationship itself is the target, and the self-image or identity is secondary.

I believe this explains a lot of the differences in how these sexualities are manifested—autohomoerotics seem to be much more comfortable with others not fully acknowledging them as "men" than autogynophiles do as "women". I've heard multiple autohomoerotics say "I don't really want to be seen as a 'man', but more like a 'boy'", the equivalent of which I highly doubt one would ever hear from an autogynophile.

Pregnant man, pregnant person emoji coming to Apple iPhones (lmao) by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

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To be perfectly frank, this doesn't wig me out as much as the "Mx. Claus" emoji. For the most part, the "gender" of emoji really just manifests itself as short, medium, or long hair. The "bearded lady" emoji 🧔‍♀️ just ends up looking like Jesus, not a sideshow attraction. And the "pregnant man" emoji just ends up reading as a pregnant lady with short hair: 🫃

"Mx. Claus" on the other hand? 🧑‍🎄 That's straight up a fictional character made-up by Unicode. That's not how standards are supposed to work, they're supposed to describe the world, not define it

Fandom wiki attempts to restore sanity by artetolife in LGBDropTheT

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As a Human Rights Blogger, Human Rights Handbook Author, and LGBT+ Person; I consider the merging/deleting of LGBTA Wiki(+Others), as well as the demarcation of "Acceptable vs Unacceptable" Gender Identities/Sexual Orientations to be a form of Cultural Genocide. LGBT+ Wikis are a form of Living Cultural Documents that detail out the Intrinsic Qualities and Lived Experiences of the LGBT+ Community. What you are doing is similar to Google's attempt at erasing traditional Armenian Names from their maps/documents, which has already proven to be a form of Cultural Genocide by the Armenian Community.~Unrelenting 8ivion8

lol

City Of Sydney votes to replace rainbow flag with trans and hetero progress flag by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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me and my friends have been calling it the "wedge issue flag"

Today in the clown world of Penis News by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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I do know an asexual who hasn't (as far as I understand) gone through any trauma, but he is also quite autistic and has also been taking an absolute fuckton of adderall since he was a child. Like, 100mg a day. For perspective, I occasionally take it, and if I take more than 20mg I'm bouncing off the walls.

I don't know if there is any demonstrated effects of that much chronic use of amphetamines on one's sexuality, but I could easily imagine it might.

Trans acceptance will not be complete until forced sex from cis people is legislated by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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re: your edit, I don't think this is a coincidence. I don't think we entirely know why, but a huge percentage of trans people are on the autism spectrum, especially those on the activist side.

Transmen and their prostates by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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(note: for the record i'm not saying bisexual women are all freaky af. however, most women who are freaky af are also bisexual)

Transmen and their prostates by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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admittedly, most of the women i've met who are into anal sex are also bisexual. primarily because they're freaky af.

Ellen Page is claiming to be transgender. What is going on?! by socialistrobot in GenderCritical

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At least for Wikipedia, it was probably just the normal editors. Some of them are eyeballs-deep in the trans ideology and I'm sure have scripts to go and change all the pronouns and names in one go.