Old meme, still relevant, especially here

neovulcan · 2023-06-12T14:54:26+00:00

I've been wanting to completely ditch Reddit for a while and this seems to be the best of the alternatives. Will at least be hanging here for the next couple days.

neovulcan · 2020-07-02T18:23:45+00:00

there is absolutely no way it won’t eventually end up exactly how Reddit is.

Some of America's founding fathers didn't think the Republic would last more than a couple decades. Here we are nearly 250 years later. While there are many differences, Reddit sadly only had Aaron Swartz to fend off the horde.

neovulcan · 2021-03-17T22:23:24+00:00

Well, from an ethical perspective there are positive rights and negative rights. Positive rights are freedoms while negative rights require effort to maintain. Taking the effort to limit what I consider harmless content implies that considerable measures are in place to keep the site free of certain content, which is indeed the case.

neovulcan · 2020-07-04T01:29:32+00:00

I lost one friend, not too close, but we used to have good discussions - middle to top of the argument pyramid type stuff. Haven't heard from him in many years until I posted a link about certain Japanese corporations increasing productivity with a 4 day week. He proceeded to post socialist memes that weren't even relevant, and refused to make an actual argument. I was so convinced his account had been compromised that I unfriended him and sent a separate message to check his account. He doubled down that this was what he really believed, and we haven't spoken since.

neovulcan · 2023-06-12T16:30:03+00:00

Thanks to the sheer population of Reddit, there's anywhere from dozens to thousands in niche subreddits that might not even exist on alternative sites. For instance, /s/explainbothsides has an overmoderated Reddit counterpart but the Saidit side has had almost no activity in the past year with 10 subscribers. We have an /s/stargate, but there's literally nothing there compared to the Reddit counterpart that is actually a pretty positive place. Not every sub on Reddit has gone to shit, and I still hope the trend reverses itself.

neovulcan · 2020-07-04T19:28:16+00:00

In case anyone's interested, the accidental side effect of re-uploading this old meme to imgur was it completely blowing up. I did it all for Saidit, but I feel like an imgur star now.

neovulcan · 2020-07-01T21:20:31+00:00

Been getting slowly disgusted with Reddit over the past few years, but didn't know where to go. Seeing this as a prominent feature here gives me hope I've chosen the right new community.

neovulcan · 2020-07-08T11:34:16+00:00

Lego Knights of the Round Table

neovulcan · 2022-03-07T02:27:25+00:00

To be fair, this is much more significant for several reasons.

First, this is Russia, a nuclear power and only 30 years ago one of the big two in the Cold War. They have the potential to bring World War III, unlike any of the aforementioned countries.

Second, Ukraine might be the largest country to voluntarily give up its nuclear weapons in exchange for peace. If Ukraine doesn't come out on top after this, its distinctly possible no one will ever disarm again, and many more might seek their own.

Third, Ukraines political and economic situation has been nothing like the aforementioned countries, several of which have never really known peace or prosperity. A "new" conflict there is practically the status quo. If war can come to one place at relative peace and prosperity, others in a similar situation better take note.

neovulcan · 2020-07-04T02:32:33+00:00

It's an argument pyramid, with the top being a refutation of some other central point. It'd be nice if every submission wasn't judged as how well it tears something else down.

neovulcan · 2020-07-02T10:11:35+00:00

Enders Game

Foundation Trilogy

Starship Troopers

The Worthing Saga

The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress

Jurassic Park

Cats Cradle

I Robot

neovulcan · 2020-08-17T17:58:01+00:00

Am I the only one with no clue what IP2 even is?

neovulcan · 2020-07-04T19:26:02+00:00

I think they'll have to slow down shifting the focus of hysteria, lest people catch on. Covid season vs riot season is a prime example, but don't forget the failed hysteria over murder hornets, or also not long ago - climate change...again. Was Great Thunberg an expert on murder hornets too? I remember the climate change, covid, and race relations, because of course she's an expert on all these things :-/

neovulcan · 2023-06-13T01:59:04+00:00

The ones in charge are going to get a lot richer with the IPO, and this move will likely make them more money than they'll lose by alienating 3rd party apps.

Additionally, while we're focusing on the negative aspects off this, the most troublesome bots likely favor the API, and this will at least make the bot owners throw additional funds towards their cause. Probably wishful thinking on my part, as Reddit would probably advertise more if they cared to kill the troublesome bots.

neovulcan · 2020-07-29T14:32:16+00:00

start digging and maybe you'll find the entrance to Castle Greyskull

neovulcan · 2020-07-04T19:22:29+00:00

I have a few communities I'd like to port over or reboot. /r/explainbothsides hasn't gone to shit yet, but /r/explainlikeimfive too often has graduate level explanations. I figure this is a perfect time to reboot ELI5 in the same spirit as I tried with /r/trueexplainlikeimfive. perhaps ELI8?

neovulcan · 2020-07-02T11:00:21+00:00

Michael Crichton is a truly fantastic author. I recommend any of his earlier stuff, haven't caught up on the later stuff yet. Even "Airframe" (where essentially nothing happened) was a pleasure to read the whole way through.

neovulcan · 2021-03-18T03:40:33+00:00

misinformation and disinformation.

Can you please link me to a couple? I haven't watched even half of the videos but none of the ones I've seen came remotely close to misinformation or disinformation.

neovulcan · 2020-07-29T03:30:07+00:00

that first one is going to help a lot. I reactivated my imgur account and fiddled through the link gathering process - pretty sure I screwed it up on one submission. Still feel guilty I hotlinked to some hosted by reddit through a similar process.

neovulcan · 2020-07-14T14:07:37+00:00

As one who identifies more libertarian than anything else, this makes sense. Always thought PragerU was a more right-leaning platform, but I identify more with the right than the left anyway, so this is acceptable.

As to the spirit of the lawsuit, I figured the predominant goal was reduced censorship, with actual government intervention being the thing neither party really wanted - with PragerU betting YouTube/Google would want government intervention even less.

Whether you agree with their views or not, they appear to fall well short of anything worth censoring (rationalizing racism, sexism, violence, etc), and they consistently present towards the top of the argument pyramid. For example, they posted this video claiming slavery was the cause of the US Civil War, which inspired this rebuttal. I'm not endorsing either video, but this kind of discussion is one of the reasons I come to the internet in the first place.

neovulcan · 2020-07-04T11:11:02+00:00

Next election season isn't for four years :-/

neovulcan · 2023-06-13T12:09:39+00:00

I don't know, man, how many billion is your coming IPO going to make? I'll tell you what...my IPO...what does IPO stand for again?

...what if we launder the money?

neovulcan · 2022-10-11T18:29:25+00:00

You've got as close to absolute free speech as you'll get, so long as you exercise it where no one will hear you (i.e. town square or middle of the forest).

A step away from that would probably be 4chan, but you might actually reach the same amount of people as the middle of the forest, since reading through all that noise is a huge pain.

A step away from that is probably Twitter since April 2022, when Elon Musk started shining a light. You either need followers or a well-placed comment, but if you're a real person, you can probably say what needs to be said.

A step away from that is probably the Alex Jones show. Just like 4chan, you've got to watch so many bad interviews before you get one worth entertaining, and even then there's doubts.

I guess it really depends on what you have to say and who you're trying to get to listen. Seems you can criticize any group of people here on Saidit, rightly or wrongly. What do you need to get off your chest?

neovulcan · 2022-09-13T16:57:30+00:00

This is the kind of thing that just lowers one's opinion of women in general. If you don't like conservatives, don't date one, but begging others to join you? Sounds like she's trying to convince herself at the same time.

To OP's question, there's very few opinions that would get me to refuse a date, but the overall attitude on discussion is critical. If I have to listen to circular logic like "Trump is bad because he's Trump", there's little hope for the discussion to go forward.

Opinions that will find me looking elsewhere:

Allowing/encouraging transgender children. If you're not competent to drink alcohol, smoke tobacco, vote, enlist in the military, own a gun, or any other significant decisions, you're not competent to irreparably opt-in to drugs/surgery.
Allowing/encouraging transgender discussions in school-age children, especially the pre-pubescent. If you can't have that discussion amongst adults in the workplace, it certainly doesn't belong with the impressionable.
Mandating that I convert to their religion. Spent too much time on a couple thinking this was just a coy ploy. Even bought the catechism of the catholic church to give the full benefit of my consideration. Could've saved so much time/effort not being so considerate.

While it hasn't been criteria historically, going forward I would insist on someone who is similarly categorically pro-life: no abortion, no suicide, no euthanasia, no death penalty. For all situations we have control of, imposing death is barbaric. Bonus points if she's pro-2A for those situations we don't have control of.

neovulcan · 2020-07-14T19:44:38+00:00

I had to explain it to my wife for our son. Glad we got ahead on that discussion, as it took her many weeks to accept the facts, and our son is not circumcised. My folks were genuinely remorseful at having circumcised me, but I don't hold it against them. They tried to make the best decision they could at the time, didn't know, and sought the advice of someone who should have known but didn't. It's not like they didn't care, it's just that the weight of popular appeal can just be so overwhelming.

neovulcan · 2020-07-07T12:57:58+00:00

Well, it's only been 5 days, but I used to check Reddit at least 3 times a day, now I'd guess about 3 times in the past 5 days. I would project the lurking continue to drop, but I still want to see if I can replicate some of the smaller subs that haven't gone to shit, and maybe reboot a couple of the bigger ones and see if any of it catches on.

neovulcan · 2020-07-01T22:50:38+00:00

Glad to see a right-wing feminist. Up until now I'd counted you with the unicorns.

The treatment of women in non-Western countries should be the number one issue of modern feminists, yet I rarely find one even bringing it up as an issue. Instead we hear about the wage gap (non-existent), or the right to kill the unborn, or how damaging certain words can be. If they'd just focus on countries where women are systemically oppressed, it'd be so much easier to take them seriously.

neovulcan · 2022-06-02T14:49:48+00:00

I was initially annoyed that this was needlessly re-visualized, but there's a key verbiage clarification that makes it worth it.

Refutation - finding a mistake and supporting it by quoting the author

So many people I've shown the previous visualization to get hung up on "by using quotes", thinking they were supposed to quote other arguments.

neovulcan · 2021-04-11T13:22:37+00:00

Its the highest legal standard i know of, so it seems like an appropriate metric.

Also, I have a relative preparing for a custody battle. Since he had a bad experience with an affordable lawyer, he's determined to self represent. I figure anything that might impress the court would work in his favor.

neovulcan · 2020-07-14T11:47:23+00:00

Libertarians learning their first lesson about the terrible power of private property.

This statement has me a bit confused. Is PragerU a libertarian platform? Do libertarians not respect private property? I didn't think either was the case.

neovulcan · 2023-06-13T14:25:02+00:00

Swartz has been removed

You can say that again

neovulcan · 2023-06-13T12:30:06+00:00

I've started using wheat straw cups. Not sure they live up to their advertising, but I figure it's worth the shot. Can't afford to risk glass falling and breaking with dogs and kids knocking things around all the time.

neovulcan · 2023-06-13T12:07:42+00:00

reddit founders will move on to something else.

...like Aaron Swartz moved on?

neovulcan · 2022-09-14T03:10:39+00:00

Echo chambers are boring. Marry someone that you can disagree with respectfully and there's always something to talk about.

neovulcan · 2022-06-25T07:20:51+00:00

Seems to be everywhere. Most disappointing part for me is just how few will even entertain that the Supreme Court should never have heard a case like Roe v Wade. The Supreme Court exists to judge the constitutionality of cases, and there's nothing to base a judgment either way in the constitution or its amendments. Then factor in the 10th Amendment, and, yeah, they never should have set so many tenuous precedents.

neovulcan · 2022-05-09T03:55:48+00:00

Bad: Every place that tries true free speech eventually finds the limits of what people will tolerate. 4chan is a great example. Additionally, open algorithms, as Musk intends, will allow those who craft spam bots to consistently evade the system. Users will lose faith in the system not for the lack of quality content, but for the ratio of quality to garbage. How much time sifting through garbage will people stand before finding good? Again, see 4chan.

Good: "Without freedom of thought, there can be no such thing as wisdom; and no such thing as public liberty without freedom of speech; which is the right of every man as far as by it he does not hurt or control the right of another; and this is the only check it ought to suffer and the only bounds it ought to know.... Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freedom of speech, a thing terrible to traitors. Benjamin Franklin" Twitter enjoys the protections of being a public forum and should be treated as such. Additionally, Twitter went too far in censoring political opponents, which sends the subtle message that the censored argument was so good, no counterargument could be made. Without naming names (which I'm sure will trigger some bot), I've reviewed many of the censored and find their arguments were neither so good as to have no counterargument, nor so bad that censorship would be necessary. Circling back to Ben Franklin: "Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freedom of speech".

neovulcan · 2022-03-06T22:41:09+00:00

Most weeks it's been Kessler for me at about $20 per handle, just showing appreciation for the others. For the longest time I'd only step out of that every month or two, but these past four weeks I've grabbed a different experiment each time.

Oddly enough I'm actually drinking your Evan Williams White Label now, I just didn't get the same price. Think I dropped about $20 on a fifth and it's not bad, just with that 100 proof I was expecting something closer to Wild Turkey 101.

neovulcan · 2021-03-31T20:18:25+00:00

IP2 was kicked out so fast I had to figure out what it stood for from somewhere else

neovulcan · 2021-03-25T02:58:47+00:00

it's one of few subs that haven't gone to shit on Reddit...really hope the community doesn't get fractured

neovulcan · 2021-03-22T12:05:43+00:00

Why Essence over anything else?

neovulcan · 2020-08-14T02:07:14+00:00

I have family in east Texas. I know finding you will be like finding a needle in a stack of needles, but hey, I'll remember to shoot a note if we're heading that way.

neovulcan · 2020-07-16T14:22:56+00:00

It's not always, it's just on the internet. I've met plenty of black people that follow these 'white' traits, so much to the point that I can't seriously accept them as white traits.

neovulcan · 2020-07-11T18:00:56+00:00

"The last bastion of free speech on the internet" - while not literally true, it might inspire others to watch the censorship movement more closely

neovulcan · 2020-07-10T23:32:47+00:00

I'd love to believe that those upvotes were all purchased by some leftist shill, but then I think about all the megachurch attendees and realize that's actually a lowball estimate for the number of morons we have to deal with.

neovulcan · 2020-07-10T18:25:45+00:00

Over a minute into it, and I can't say I've found anything wrong, but it's all pretty low on the argument pyramid :-/

When I say I'm an Einstein skeptic, I don't mean that he wasn't original, I'm saying the speed of light is just a speed (not a maximum), and the usefulness of his equations is probably incidental. I don't have the math to prove that last part, but after all these years, I'd think it'd be more widespread knowledge at the lower tiers of education.

neovulcan · 2020-07-07T23:48:35+00:00

I'm an Einstein skeptic, but I don't have evidence. Care to share?

neovulcan · 2020-07-07T23:43:08+00:00

I'd believe it from Stephen, but Carl? I'm no astronomer, but he's got me convinced.

neovulcan · 2020-07-05T01:55:47+00:00

I kept the original title but considered editorializing to that effect. It's the most comprehensive article on the topic I've found to date.

neovulcan · 2020-07-03T23:11:40+00:00

are periods the new /s ?

neovulcan · 2020-07-02T19:06:11+00:00

half Matrix, half Star Trek, half Roman god of fire

neovulcan · 2020-07-02T18:26:11+00:00

Thank you. Either I never knew where to look or it was removed before I started looking, but good to know just how good Aaron Swartz really was.

neovulcan · 2022-09-15T13:29:38+00:00

I am a sun worshipper, but I don't pray to the sun. You know who I pray to? Joe Pesci.

neovulcan · 2022-09-13T18:11:59+00:00

While it is generally declining as Huxley predicted in "A Brave New World", we do have a few outliers that show it's not categorically bad. My examples don't seem to hit mainstream media as hard as the garbage though.

Cobra Kai
Better Call Saul
Silicon Valley
The Expanse
Young Sheldon
Spartacus (starting with Blood and Sand, of course)

neovulcan · 2022-06-02T14:44:21+00:00

I've had a couple minor glitches like this in Firefox for other sites too. Default browser is now Chrome, with Firefox for oddball cases.

neovulcan · 2022-05-24T19:57:40+00:00

That's a fair "should". What's the "should not"?

neovulcan · 2022-05-24T19:56:53+00:00

That sounds like an argument for "bad". What's the argument for "good"?

neovulcan · 2022-05-09T16:47:49+00:00

No: Every place that tries true free speech eventually finds the limits of what people will tolerate. 4chan is a great example. Users will lose faith in the system not for the lack of quality content, but for the ratio of quality to garbage. How much time sifting through garbage will people stand before finding good? Again, see 4chan.

Yes: "Without freedom of thought, there can be no such thing as wisdom; and no such thing as public liberty without freedom of speech; which is the right of every man as far as by it he does not hurt or control the right of another; and this is the only check it ought to suffer and the only bounds it ought to know.... Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freedom of speech, a thing terrible to traitors. Benjamin Franklin" Twitter enjoys the protections of being a public forum and should be treated as such YouTube . Additionally, Twitter went too far in censoring political opponents, which sends the subtle message that the censored argument was so good, no counterargument could be made. Without naming names (which I'm sure will trigger some bot), I've reviewed many of the censored and find their arguments were neither so good as to have no counterargument, nor so bad that censorship would be necessary. Circling back to Ben Franklin: "Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freedom of speech".

neovulcan · 2022-05-09T15:23:39+00:00

Climate alarmist: Google "climate change since 1900" and you'll find plenty of articles and studies based on the same dataset. If you follow the scientific method using this dataset, you're forced to draw alarming conclusions. Additionally, even if these conclusions are wrong, steps towards a greener Earth hurt no one, and provide varying benefits to everyone. Google "aqi map usa" for a taste of the subtle irritants we tolerate in many regions. It feeds our collective ego to believe we make a difference, and its good for society to see people looking to take responsibility.

Climate skeptic: Google "climate change since the beginning of time" and you'll find datasets that show us entering and exiting multiple ice ages without human intervention. If human intervention didn't pull us out of the previous ice ages, now probably has nothing to do with us as well. We still aren't as warm as the Roman period, and the climate alarmists need to show how a smaller population with no fossil fuels managed to have a larger impact on world climate. The planet is fine. Head on over to /r/climateskeptics for more.

A lot of climate alarmists are researchers or businesses that would not be profitable without climate alarmists in social media. This is generally the crowd of "science", so the "climate change deniers" are usually religious fundamentalists that don't trust science. This leads to the former group disregarding the ice core datasets because it conflicts with their politics, and the latter disregarding it because it conflicts with their religion. You'll find so many arguments low on the argument pyramid

neovulcan · 2022-05-09T15:03:56+00:00

In a work setting that makes sense. I'm referring to places like 4chan, as I just don't bother with it anymore. Most people aren't tasked with going to Twitter...

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