Saidit now has over 4000 user accounts!
1 month ago * by magnora7 to /s/SaidIt from self.SaidIt
Welcome to Saidit.net!
7 months ago * by magnora7[A] to /s/SaidIt from self.SaidIt
For all the newcomers to saidit today, welcome! Here's what makes saidit unique
1 month ago by magnora7 to /s/SaidIt from saidit.net
Tips & tricks to get the most out of saidit
1 month ago * by magnora7[A] to /s/SaidIt from self.SaidIt
Voat literally praises the mass murder, repeatedly calling him a hero. 90% of voat upvotes in agreement.
1 month ago by magnora7 to /s/MeanwhileOnVoat from voat.co
Don't join the army
27 days ago by magnora7 to /s/memes from i.redd.it
Saidit just hit 5000 user accounts!
1 month ago by magnora7 to /s/SaidIt from self.SaidIt
Most wanted "criminal" vs man of the year
11 days ago by magnora7 to /s/memes from i.redd.it
Resignation letter of Nowata County, Oklahoma sheriff Terry Barnett, after a judge ordered her to reopen an unsafe jail with near-lethal carbon monoxide and exposed wiring.
1 month ago by magnora7 to /s/news from i.imgur.com
With all the reddit users coming over lately, I wanted to share something. This is what happened to Voat. by Alduin in propaganda
[–]magnora7[A] 51 insightful - 5 fun51 insightful - 4 fun52 insightful - 4 fun52 insightful - 5 fun - 1 month ago* (0 children)
Yup, I was there when voat was called whoaverse, I watched it all happen and you're absolutely right!
This is why user participation is important. This is why the pyramid of debate is important. This is why everyone who truly cares about saidit needs to voice their opinions and vote when they see something insightful or fun.
We have lots of defenses against what happened to voat, but primary among them is community.
The second thing we have going for us is no downvote. So the dedicated minority group cannot re-shape the site at large to their own desires nearly as easily. It got much worse as well after voat added restrictions where if you've been downvoted you cannot downvote others. It sped up the echo-chamber feedback-loop effect and let these extremists take over the mainstream culture of voat much more quickly. Now a dissenting voice of reason stands out like a sore thumb, and is downvoted to hell.
Saidit doesn't have these locking-out features because we don't have downvotes, and we're careful to avoid "improvements" to the algorithm that actually just speed up the feedback loop that creates an echo-chamber culture. Furthermore one group cannot brigade another, because there is no downvote, and also they must abide by the pyramid of debate or be banned from saidit. So the only remaining way to "brigade" is to argue one's point rationally.
Thirdly, and perhaps most importantly, the admins actually care. This site used to be called antiextremes.com, specifically referencing avoiding the extremes of reddit (censorship) and voat (far-right). It's literally our declared mission to avoid becoming voat, even right in our original name.
The reason reddit went bad is because the admins turned a blind eye (or perhaps were paid to) while brigading and astroturfing groups took it over, subreddit by subreddit.
Voat however failed because the admins just let whoever take it over, as you pointed out. They had no ideological backbone, no pyramid of debate, no nothing. Just an empty space for anyone who has enough free time to go absolutely nuts and create their own echo chamber. And that's exactly what happened.
But at saidit, we will actually will learn from their failures and try our best to avoid them.
Fourthly, saidit has open modlogs available in any sub under the list of mods, it says "moderation log". Anyone can click it and see everything every mod has ever done. Voat and reddit hide this information for mods only. This transparency adds a LOT of accountability. No more secret user deletions and secret mod coups.
Fifthly, we're run by donations. Not advertiser revenue or big secret investors. This means we have zero incentive to get rid of certain messages to please our advertisers and investors, because we have none other than community donations. We do not plan to ever change this funding model because saidit is run for the community, not for profit.
So you can see our approach is multifaceted, and we think we have a very good chance at avoiding the fate that befell voat. It won't be easy, but I believe we can do it.
Saidit.net — April 10, 2019 — Saidit hits 6,000 subscribed users, chatbox css theme now matches day/night mode of site, closed out other github issues
13 days ago by magnora7 to /s/SaidIt from self.SaidIt
Should Saidit be hosted in Norway or Switzerland?
4 days ago by magnora7 to /s/AskSaidIt from self.AskSaidIt
Saidit.net — Mar 27, 2019 — Updated 'report' box to include pyramid of debate, made sub wiki editing easier, fixed a bug that would occasionally crash the chat, email password retrieval system now functional, other bug fixes
27 days ago * by magnora7[A] to /s/SaidIt from self.SaidIt
Saidit is growing - A look at the numbers
6 months ago * by magnora7 to /s/SaidIt from self.SaidIt
Voat literally praises the mass murder, repeatedly calling him a hero. 90% of voat upvotes in agreement. by magnora7 in MeanwhileOnVoat
[–]magnora7[S] 38 insightful - 5 fun38 insightful - 4 fun39 insightful - 4 fun39 insightful - 5 fun - 1 month ago* (0 children)
Then sane comments that call out the nonsense are downvoted:
Voat is overrun with shills, and white supremacists who can't tell they're surrounded by shills. Voat has a lot of free speech, but very little moral backbone despite all the grandstanding they do. I guess that's what happens when you let white supremecist neo-nazis literally take over your site and run it for their own benefit. They'll cheer on murder as long as the people killed have the skin color and religion they don't like.
This is why voat can't be the next reddit. This is why we had to build saidit, to give people a 3rd option, because one didn't really exist. Free information for those who aren't completely lost to extremist ideology. Which is why this site used to be called antiextremes.com back in the day
"War against a foreign country only happens when the moneyed classes think they are going to profit from it." - George Orwell
25 days ago by magnora7 to /s/Antiwar from i.imgur.com
Saidit.net — Feb 4, 2019 — New Rule: No upvoting yourself using alternate accounts
2 months ago * by magnora7[A] to /s/SaidIt from self.SaidIt
Saidit now has over 3000 registered users!
3 months ago * by magnora7 to /s/SaidIt from self.SaidIt
"What does the money machine eat? It eats youth, spontaneity, life, beauty, and, above all, it eats creativity. It eats quality and shits quantity." - William S. Burroughs
27 days ago by magnora7 to /s/quotes from i.redd.it
Magnora 7 | Anthony Bourdain, Kate Spade, & The Suicide String Conspiracy - The Higherside Chats
8 months ago by magnora7 to /s/magnora7 from thehighersidechats.com
r/news censored story of renowned Uighur musician Abdurehim Heyit who was killed in a Chinese detention camp. OP confronted the mods, mods openly say they're catering to new Chinese owners, and OP posts a picture of this exchange that is now on the front page
2 months ago by magnora7 to /s/MeanwhileOnReddit from reddit.com
"Censorship of anything, at any time, in any place, on whatever pretense..." - Eugene Gladstone O'Neill [970x1000]
27 days ago by magnora7 to /s/quotes from i.imgur.com
Saidit.net — April 17, 2019 — HTML5 expandos now support mp3, wav, ogg, and mp4 naively! Wiki link added. Home page listings further streamlined.
6 days ago * by magnora7 to /s/SaidIt from self.SaidIt
4chan, 8chan and Voat banned in Australia by Greedeater in censorship
[–]magnora7 29 insightful - 4 fun29 insightful - 3 fun30 insightful - 3 fun30 insightful - 4 fun - 1 month ago* (0 children)
Wait, for real? Holy crap. AUS and NZ are really going for it, aren't they?
I much preferred Norway's reaction to their mass shooting: They changed nothing, and said if they did change how they operate, that means the shooter wins.
"Culture is not your friend..." - Terence McKenna
7 days ago by magnora7 to /s/quotes from i.pinimg.com