The end of an era by Adolf in CringeAnarchy

[–]magnora7 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Welcome! There does seem to be a natural lifespan to these things. Reddit lasted a good 10 years though. Hopefully we can get the same or more out of saidit if we treat it well and create a good culture.

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[–]magnora7 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The deplatforming is a concern, but that's why we have all those cryptocurrency donation options available.

We don't want this place to be as far right as voat, we kind of hope to hit more of a centrist middle-ground between reddit and voat. That's the group that doesn't really have a place to speak their mind, so that's why we created saidit.

Thanks for the advice, I appreciate it.

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[–]magnora7 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree, I am already dealing with that on a regular basis. You hit it exactly on the nose. We have no qualms with political incorrectness here, but we also do not wish to become voat. So there has to be limits on this type of hate-filled ideology that is being pushed taking over saidit as it did with voat.

It's just about... I don't want saidit to be 50% made up of posts that are about how bad x people are. Where x is leftists or some race or religion or whatever. Saidit is not a hate-manufacturing machine like voat is, nor do we want it to be.

Additionally, some people seem to intentionally push extreme ideologies (left and right) as a way to intentionally destroy forums. All finer and subtler discussion would eventually be destroyed when knee-jerk (but perhaps factual) extremist memes take over the front page and become the mainstream culture of the site. This is a weapon used to destroy sites, and I see that for what it is, and am prepared to deal with it, even knowing it won't be easy. We are adding the rule "no advocating violence against individuals or groups" as a new additional lowest level of the pyramid of debate. This will limit the amount of hate-filled material that can be posted, as well as cut down on intelligence agency bait (agent provocateur) threads, or "glow" threads as voat calls them. This is win/win for saidit.

However there still needs to be perhaps another rule to completely prevent the slide in to voat, but I'm not sure exactly what it would be. Perhaps no posting about the same thing over and over and over, because those people are often just pushing an ideology. But that's kind of arbitrary and hard to enforce. I don't want to say "facts posted only to support hatred of groups or individuals" because that's ridiculous, that's like a blank check for admins to act like an authoritarians.

But if someone is posting all the time (20+ times a day) with ONLY content designed to make you hate x people... that's the real issue. They're pushing a hateful ideology ONLY and have nothing else to offer. Everything they post has the exact same slant to it, and they don't bother to post unless that slant is present. I think those are the people who destroyed voat. It's like their full-time job, and it might actually be, for some of them. But I'm not sure exactly how to turn that in to a useful rule that won't need patching or changing.

What do you think?

What a beautiful agenda by 07user01 in CringeAnarchy

[–]magnora7 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

So what? There are many more ways to contribute to the world than having children... if that's what you believe, then you must think Central Africa and Afghanistan are super great places: https://www.targetmap.com/ThumbnailsReports/7704_THUMB_IPAD.jpg

Saidit.net Canary #6 by magnora7 in SaiditCanary

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I guess we will have to update this canary if/when we move the servers to Switzerland or Norway.

/r/CringeAnarchy has been banned by Fire in MeanwhileOnReddit

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

One man's funny is another man's REEEEEEEEE.

True. But there's kind of a hierarchy to it. Some things are more low-brow than others. And there's a problem with social media sites catering to the lowest common denominator. I think this is also part of the reason the discussion between the left and right has broken down as much as it has.

I'd be happy if we could arrive at a place where we say maybe it's not realistic to expect many doctors or scientists from a city like Baltimore (avg IQ 76) but it's not cause of "racism".

I completely agree, and I don't think it's racist to say things like that which are backed up by facts. But again if this is 60% of what the website is talking about (like voat), there's something funky going on.

As a result of all that nonsense it's been my experience that any forum that DOESN'T suppress politically incorrect facts eventually turns into /pol/ or Voat because the lowest IQ participants have the loudest voices.

I have moments where I feel the same way, but it HAS to be possible to find some sort of middle-ground between the two. But it's a bit like separating two sheets of paper that are stuck.

I think the pyramid of debate will be a good defense against the low-IQ stuff. But the high-IQ stuff is welcome. I just hope one ideology doesn't take over the site, is all. Saidit is about diversity of ideology and opinion, rather than superficial "diversity", and this includes right-leaning opinions. But I'm not going to let people whip up anti-whatever militias on saidit. There's a lot of space between the two, and saidit will explore that space.

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[–]magnora7 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Community donations: https://www.patreon.com/SaidIt

https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/comments/jf/cryptocurrency_support_for_saiditnet/

We're just a few dollars shy of breaking even and have been for a few months.

/r/CringeAnarchy has been banned by Fire in MeanwhileOnReddit

[–]magnora7 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's why we don't have ads on saidit

Saidit.net — April 25, 2019 — New Saidit logo, infinitely resizable expandos, new self-post images, now more than 7500 saidit users by magnora7 in SaidIt

[–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The banner image itself is the same, just the div frame is a little taller which reveals more of it.

All Eyez On Me by The_In-Betweener in Memetics

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That's hilarious. I should re-watch that movie now that I know it's the south park guys. Team America World Police is one of my all-time favorites. Thanks for the song haha

What a beautiful agenda by 07user01 in CringeAnarchy

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

...said the person calling others parasites simply for who they choose to love. Sounds pretty self-centered to me, tbh

My Tao Te Ching by Stephen Mitchell is my favourite version, being a little more Western-friendly. by JasonCarswell in Taoism

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That's the best kind! :)

All Eyez On Me by The_In-Betweener in Memetics

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Haha yeah I watched that. They made it in college, I think it was the first real project they did together.

Attention all! Did you know Saidit has a wiki? by HorseMeat in SaidIt

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hey random question Jason, but could you help us make a new pyramid of debate? I want to add a new lowest level, at the very bottom below everything else, called "Advocating Violence" or in a more expanded form "Advocating violence against groups or individuals". It's kind of implicit, but I want to explicitly put it on there because it's unfortunately becoming relevant to reference.

If you could use this original picture to add the new layer that'd be awesome: https://saidit.net/static/debatepyramid.jpg

It could say "Violence" on the left and then "Advocating violence against groups or individuals" and be shaded an even darker red. If you're busy, I can do it, no worries. Just thought you might want to take a crack at it. We just need the one image for our terms and policy page.

How to be a friend with magnora7? by Snow in magnora7

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Haha you seem cool enough, I have nothing against you and I know who you are. We're friends already, in a way :)

But if you really want to get on my good side, regularly post intelligent and thoughtful stuff to saidit, or write some code to improve the site. I really like people who do that stuff

All Eyez On Me by The_In-Betweener in Memetics

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVkTmnJkAN8

The way he pronounces words when he sings is hilarious

Attention all! Did you know Saidit has a wiki? by HorseMeat in SaidIt

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

To any mod who is looking to open a wiki on their sub, they must change 2 settings in the sub settings page: Allow 'anyone' to edit wiki, and set minimum karma required to edit to '0'

Then anyone can edit that sub's wiki, at (for example) www.saidit.net/s/[NameOfTheSub]/wiki

LP vs Hoppeanism by 07user01 in Libertarianism

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

pro-war pro-hate? I'll pass

Russian bots? by Drizzt in AskSaidIt

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We've already removed several bots. If they're just spamming and never respond to comments or discussion, we remove the spammer. Not a big deal

Attention all! Did you know Saidit has a wiki? by HorseMeat in SaidIt

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Good, glad to hear it lines up with your plans. Glad you like my name for the new level.

"The Debate Pyramid" sounds fine. I can't think of a catchier name either. It's technically called "Graham's Hierarchy of Disagreement" which is much less catchy than our names. I'll probably keep calling it "The Pyramid Of Debate" myself though, it sounds more official to me that way for some reason.

Leave the "ass hat", that's iconic! You can't touch that! haha.

Anyway good ideas, thanks for the image work!

The end of an era by Adolf in CringeAnarchy

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Oh nice, I didn't know that