Detransitioners of Reddit Call Trans Community a “Cult”

lovelyspearmint · 2022-11-30T20:10:40+00:00

It still fascinates me that with all we now know about cults, most people don't look at this whole mess and say 'huh, that seems like a cult'.

lovelyspearmint · 2022-11-30T20:08:54+00:00

Not only that, but they get to be placed in women's prisons which are generally lower security and they get the run of the place.

lovelyspearmint · 2022-04-09T04:57:06+00:00

I guess from their perspective, they're not sure what you're capable of, and don't trust you as an adult to let them know when you need help and when you don't, even though you're aware of your limitations and would let them know. It's frustrating, to say the very least.

lovelyspearmint · 2022-04-09T04:54:49+00:00

Comorbidity is common (most autistic people have some degree of anxiety/depression at the very least), but I'm sceptical when everyone and their mother has autism, especially when I'm unable to see their full body language and only see exaggerated TikToks (always fascinating that they always have their camera on and filming when they're showing overtly autistic behaviours, hmmmm). Someone like Chris Chan was closely monitored, so it was easy to pick out that there was something different about him.

lovelyspearmint · 2022-04-08T22:01:13+00:00

I guess overprotective/helicopter parenting would cover it, or Münchhausen's By Proxy (a bit of a stretch)?

lovelyspearmint · 2022-04-08T21:59:03+00:00

I'll note my mum is GC, so she wouldn't have let me transition, but still, there would be a ton of social pressure on her regardless.

And you're right. Most people, especially if they're women, tend to manage well enough not to get diagnosed until adulthood. My rule of thumb are people who put autistic followed by a plethora of other conditions in their Twitter bio are usually not autistic; they might've felt socially awkward once in their life, but that's about it.

lovelyspearmint · 2022-04-07T21:34:02+00:00

I would've been in the same boat had I been born later. One of the major issues too is that autistic kids (and parents) will jump on the bandwagon of an explanation for why autistic kids feel different, and some parents would welcome the idea of sterilising their chil- I mean affirming their child's gender through 'gender' reassignment surgery.

lovelyspearmint · 2022-03-06T21:09:05+00:00

If they're the ones these guys are mentioning, no thank you

lovelyspearmint · 2022-02-02T07:16:12+00:00

While that's true, she's still got a problem with men being men around other men. Like, what was she expecting?

lovelyspearmint · 2022-02-01T08:16:20+00:00

Not bizarre, just pure fetishisation and a desire to be subversive and cool. They know they can go back to being straight whenever they want with little or no consequences.

lovelyspearmint · 2022-01-18T22:31:06+00:00

But I thought they always insisted they don't get rid of their dicks because it's not like they will be using them. When did this change?

lovelyspearmint · 2022-01-18T22:28:31+00:00

I love how her smile drops as soon as it dawns on her what he's admitting.

lovelyspearmint · 2022-01-14T21:32:26+00:00

It's her friend, not mine, so yes, I do.

lovelyspearmint · 2022-01-14T05:47:10+00:00

Yeah, seriously. How could we know what we like if we don't try it out first.

This right here. This response is absolute bullshit. I don't need to eat shit to know that, hmm, maybe I won't like it.

lovelyspearmint · 2022-01-11T23:18:13+00:00

When they say 'be kind' they only expect adherence form women, don't ya know?

lovelyspearmint · 2022-01-11T23:17:27+00:00

Third the one with the hairy chest because despite their insistence that they are a lady, they have changed nothing about their behaviour or appearance and yet have been accepted as a qualified 'woman'.

lovelyspearmint · 2022-01-09T21:23:25+00:00

My girlfriend is a bit of a TRA and has a non-binary friend, but the topic doesn't come up enough for it to be an issue, especially since we get along about pretty much everything else. That being said, I've never told her I'm GC. If I have any GC things I want to talk about, I do so with my mother, who agrees with me wholeheartedly.

lovelyspearmint · 2022-01-06T20:26:25+00:00

The fact that they're using just sex rather than sex/rape means they're aware that it's more likely that transwomen are going to commit rape by deception, but because they identify as women, rape by deception won't be used by the court.

lovelyspearmint · 2022-01-04T12:34:28+00:00

They're the ones complaining about echo chambers, and yet...

lovelyspearmint · 2021-12-28T22:15:01+00:00

Is it sad that I knew exactly what the F was going to stand for?

lovelyspearmint · 2021-12-28T22:14:03+00:00

My favourite was when they went back and claimed that Neo dodging bullets was supposed to be a representation of Neo dodging gender expectations.

lovelyspearmint · 2021-12-28T22:07:03+00:00

Also the picture they chose for her just had to be a highly feminine Marilyn Monroe look.

lovelyspearmint · 2021-12-28T22:06:01+00:00

Also finding someone aesthetically pleasing doesn't necessarily mean you're gay. I think many male actors/models are nice to look at, but I don't find them sexually appealing.

lovelyspearmint · 2021-12-24T11:47:37+00:00

NB + CM = =w=

lovelyspearmint · 2021-12-23T20:25:31+00:00

Aiden Shapiro has joined the chat

lovelyspearmint · 2021-12-23T20:22:38+00:00

"But sir, it's been full for years!"

lovelyspearmint · 2021-12-23T20:12:38+00:00

"Buh muh dysphoria!!!!"

lovelyspearmint · 2021-12-23T20:12:01+00:00

You could take the Jenna from 30 Rock route and marry someone who specifically crossdressers as you, since she could only ever love herself.

lovelyspearmint · 2021-12-23T20:05:42+00:00

I wish I wasn't straight but I can't help it that I love a nice dick.

Don't worry, she won't be in a hot minute.

lovelyspearmint · 2021-12-23T19:58:26+00:00

"There are thirsty disabled transwomen of colour, so eat your girldick."

"But Muuuuuum..."

"No buts! Otherwise Marsha's ghost will haunt you!"

lovelyspearmint · 2021-12-21T22:28:57+00:00

My bi partner enjoys mlm fiction written by women, but she's perfectly aware that it's written by women and for women, nobody else.

These guys don't realise this shit is by men for men, nobody else.

lovelyspearmint · 2021-12-21T21:40:07+00:00

Quite a lot of stigma and preconceptions, I suppose?

lovelyspearmint · 2021-12-19T21:25:49+00:00

I don't think she realised they're there because they ~~strongarmed~~ limpdicked their way into "gay" porn. Can't confirm actual gay men watch it though.

lovelyspearmint · 2021-12-19T21:09:06+00:00

The main issue I have with it isn't any of the things you mentioned, but instead the danger. I'm not sure who organised this specific day, but it's gonna give TRAs new targets to doxx, so it's maybe not as good as people think it may be.

lovelyspearmint · 2021-12-17T21:01:22+00:00

I'm still surprised how 'woke' Tasmania is, of all places, but considering it's just good ol' fashioned homophobia in an ill-fitting progress flag dress, I guess my surprise is no longer called for.

lovelyspearmint · 2021-12-17T20:54:48+00:00

https://saidit.net/s/Lesbians/comments/8gg4/does_anyone_need_invite_codes_to_ovarit/ try this thread

lovelyspearmint · 2021-12-17T20:53:39+00:00

Unfortunately I can't give out invites, but hopefully someone else can?

lovelyspearmint · 2021-12-17T06:43:53+00:00

Is this that phenomenon where a person is simultaneously all of LGBTQ?

lovelyspearmint · 2021-12-17T06:31:12+00:00

Very much so, at least this lesbian sub

lovelyspearmint · 2021-12-16T20:21:12+00:00

Also there's no way those kids are more than 90 tops together. Who the fuck is he kidding?

lovelyspearmint · 2021-12-15T00:26:17+00:00

This sub is slowly dying. See if you can get an Ovarit invite.

lovelyspearmint · 2021-12-13T21:33:29+00:00

I can catch bits and pieces (I only speak a little), but I think at first, it's to fix birthdates that were entered incorrectly, like when someone doesn't have records and an estimate is made? But the fact that anterior and posterior is used means someone can identify not just as older but younger as well. The extent of how younger or older doesn't seem to be clear from what little I could understand.

lovelyspearmint · 2021-12-13T21:24:16+00:00

Later that night:

"Thank the Lord, Harold, I thought he'd never leave."

lovelyspearmint · 2021-12-13T21:08:55+00:00

As hard as it is, it might be best to go. They might keep a list of who doesn't go, then use it against them in future.

lovelyspearmint · 2021-12-10T12:12:34+00:00

I think it's more along the lines of their gender being connected to whether they'll listen to their nurse and leave Romeo hanging on the windowsill.

lovelyspearmint · 2021-12-10T12:11:16+00:00

It used to be an old joke that straight men would say, but now it's treated with deadly seriousness. God help you if you say a male presenting straight man isn't a lesbian like he claims.

lovelyspearmint · 2021-12-10T12:09:12+00:00

And Sapphic has been taken by genderspecials, so even that isn't ours to use.

lovelyspearmint · 2021-12-10T12:06:20+00:00

That's why that quote I saw on here a while back "How can they feel pride when they've never felt shame?" hits so hard. They've never felt shame for liking the opposite sex, and doing mental gymnastics so that they're 'gay' and 'lesbian' and therefore should feel shameful doesn't count (and I doubt they actually feel shame, since they know no matter what, people will sing their praises and encourage their fetishisation).

lovelyspearmint · 2021-12-09T06:46:37+00:00

Those sweet sweet woke points

lovelyspearmint · 2021-12-05T21:37:50+00:00

I think it might also be the prevalence of co-mordbidities in autistic people. Most have some kind of mental depression or anxiety (I certainly do), not to mention social isolation that may be as a result of the co-morbidities or because of our difference in behaviour.

As a result, when they see how accepted and championed trans people are, and add in a dash of autistic gender-nonconformism due to not having an inherent feeling of what is expected of X or Y gender, they're easily sucked into the ideology since they think they'll finally belong somewhere and understand themselves better.

I personally thought I was genderfluid and demisexual for a hot minute in high school, and even thought at one point that I was a trans man because I preferred to wear men's clothing, which is generally more comfortable than womenswear. I fear for the me who might've been born ten years later, where I would've told that yes indeed I was a transman and I would've damaged myself beyond repair.

lovelyspearmint · 2021-12-05T21:26:41+00:00

It's also fascinating how everyone actively ignores evidence from first hand sources, like how Malcolm said in a film clip that he was a gay man or when people from the Stonewall riots said that there were no transwomen of colour (or trans in general) leading the charge.

lovelyspearmint · 2021-12-02T21:10:54+00:00

I'm worried about what she's promoting at her charity: "Think about your perceived trauma and think about whether you're being age-ist towards the person who abused you, because it might not actually have been abuse, kids".

lovelyspearmint · 2021-11-30T20:01:39+00:00

I can't get over how smug and self-satisfied she is to have realised this great truth.

lovelyspearmint · 2021-11-23T03:19:18+00:00

Surely she knows that aesthetic attraction exists. Even as a lesbian, I can recognise and admire the beauty of male actors, singers, models but not be sexually attracted to them.

lovelyspearmint · 2021-11-23T03:12:40+00:00

Were not all just uneducated cis men saying were lesbians for a cheap laugh

And yet he doesn't know basic grammar, as seen in the final sentence where he says yourself instead of you, so I beg to differ.

lovelyspearmint · 2021-11-23T03:08:24+00:00

Not crybabies, crybullies.

lovelyspearmint · 2021-11-23T03:07:56+00:00

Comedian Holly Stars, actor Georgia Frost, and drag performer Richard Energy protested in front of Rowling’s home this past Friday with signs that read “Trans liberation now,” “Don’t be a cissy,” and “Trans rights are human rights,” according to Pink News.

So they're not even hiding that cis is nothing more than an insult. Got it.

lovelyspearmint · 2021-11-21T01:43:16+00:00

But guys, she's got ADHD/DID! Give this poor transf*g a break /s

lovelyspearmint · 2021-11-19T23:13:05+00:00

"There were trans cavemen, don't ya know?"

lovelyspearmint · 2021-11-19T20:07:14+00:00

Also being autistic could contribute to your non-comformity (I think I recall you mentioning you were a while back, as am I)? In other words, we don't have that innate sense of 'this is how a woman should behave/this is what a woman should wear', and therefore we do as we like, and tend to lean towards the practical, i.e. looser men's clothing, STEM, etc, which happen to be more masculine.

lovelyspearmint · 2021-11-19T20:04:17+00:00

"Well, back then there wasn't a word for trans, so that's why she didn't use it, bigot. Everyone knows that women who wear pants = men."

lovelyspearmint · 2021-11-19T20:00:49+00:00

Think of the poor (transwo)men!!!

lovelyspearmint · 2021-11-18T20:25:47+00:00

What's interesting is I've never heard the reverse or the word 'non-women'.

lovelyspearmint · 2021-11-18T06:13:36+00:00

It's those dead eyes that freak me out too.

lovelyspearmint · 2021-11-18T06:11:18+00:00

It's been 14 hours since they asked the question, and somehow they think they're 'an ace at being non-binary'. Is that awful flair the only reason they asked that question?

lovelyspearmint · 2021-11-17T20:17:37+00:00

Because they never went through puberty properly, their brains didn't develop and they think a day can refer to any period of time.

lovelyspearmint · 2021-11-16T20:42:02+00:00

Sorry, mate. It's a staple of Aussie culture XD

lovelyspearmint · 2021-11-16T20:41:05+00:00

So they're a hug enjoyer, huh? I guess family gatherings were non-sexual awakening for them.

lovelyspearmint · 2021-11-16T20:38:59+00:00

I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see these morons arguing that trans fat is good because "trans"

lovelyspearmint · 2021-11-16T07:57:06+00:00

Maybe he could have...I dunno, written a whole new song for trans and NB, but that would require effort on his part. He does realise NB and trans aren't sexualities, right?

lovelyspearmint · 2021-11-14T21:29:01+00:00

Holy shit, is it the same friend I've got? She talks about how 'gay' she is and how much she loves women, but she's only ever romantically pursued men even though there is a (small) pool of lesbians and bisexual women in the area.

lovelyspearmint · 2021-11-11T20:04:27+00:00

Then they'll argue it's an outlier. You can't win with clowns.

lovelyspearmint · 2021-11-11T20:01:59+00:00

The truth of the matter is that they wouldn't want to see trans in their lesbian porn anyway.

lovelyspearmint · 2021-11-11T10:02:21+00:00

However, they generally tend to keep their genitals intact (since they can go back to being straight when this is no longer popular), as opposed to homosexuals who tend to be more likely to remove their genitals as they genuinely believe they'll be happier as "straight" people.

lovelyspearmint · 2021-11-11T09:50:45+00:00

MEBmen? MEBmas?

lovelyspearmint · 2021-11-11T06:12:30+00:00

Not to mention there's no other mental health condition that exists that requires surgery to fix; you don't fix anorexia with liposuction, even though people who have it believe they are overweight. Also keep in mind that lobotomies were revolutionary at the time.

lovelyspearmint · 2021-11-10T20:19:25+00:00

Only if they're currently fucking in missionary position. Everything else is queer.

lovelyspearmint · 2021-11-07T01:05:07+00:00

I have a bi girlfriend, and while she is into the genderwoo/TRA nonsense (has a non-binary friend), it never really comes up and I don't go out of my way (nor does she) to bring it up, so I'm pretty happy, tbh. We get each other's weird jokes, love/debate movies all the time, and I'm really glad I met her.

lovelyspearmint · 2021-11-07T01:02:31+00:00

I would honestly use this as a gotcha with TRAs. Say: "hey, I saw this really gross joke online from a comedian", make sure to use gender neutral pronouns, and see what reaction you get; see if they say 'ugh, men are disgusting'. Then show the video and watch them bend over backwards to justify it.

lovelyspearmint · 2021-11-04T21:05:28+00:00

And that's if she even went that far. I bet their queerness is just her husband cooking or doing chores. Bam! They're queer!

lovelyspearmint · 2021-11-04T05:55:46+00:00

I think the best way to see whether they're actually incels is to see whether they fully transition, or just put on clothes and 'socially' transition.

lovelyspearmint · 2021-11-03T20:02:57+00:00

I've never understood this shit. It's called roleplay, you play a fucking role, none of it is real or analogous to real life.

lovelyspearmint · 2021-11-03T20:00:16+00:00

Is outercourse actually something people use for foreplay?

lovelyspearmint · 2021-11-02T21:04:23+00:00

It's not even a preference, because you don't choose not to like them, you just don't.

lovelyspearmint · 2021-11-02T21:04:21+00:00

It's not even a preference, because you don't choose not to like them, you just don't.

lovelyspearmint · 2021-11-02T11:57:30+00:00

Mine was the same at first, but she gave up when she saw I preferred comfier/practical clothing over dresses/skirts. She's definitely been more understanding since I got my diagnosis, but will still point out if something I'm wearing isn't appropriate for X or Y situation.

They honestly should be called out, but it's difficult to prove they're not when all you have is text and images. You often need to see video footage to be able to pick up on the familiar behavioural cues, and even then it could be faked if they've seen how an actual autistic person behaves.

lovelyspearmint · 2021-11-01T21:52:46+00:00

There was some kind of research done, pre TQ-boom, although it could've just been conflation with gender-nonconformity in autism.

lovelyspearmint · 2021-11-01T20:20:41+00:00

Even a lot of autistics don't want them because they've marginalized us.

Exactly. There's also the fact that autistic people have a higher chance of being LGB compared to neurotypicals, which means all this genderwoo has led many to transition due to pressure from parents/caregivers/therapists/peers.

lovelyspearmint · 2021-11-01T07:59:36+00:00

Don't all lesbians have beer guts that hang over the waistline of their hot pink ill-fitting mini skirts?

lovelyspearmint · 2021-10-31T20:46:52+00:00

Is it really grooming to tell that some people just won't like anyone and it's okay? No one will be explicitly talking about sex to kids.

Perhaps not, but from when does any sexuality have anything to do with Girl Guides?

lovelyspearmint · 2021-10-29T20:42:56+00:00

Thank you! Also how come nobody calls the clown racist while they're at it, especially if you consider what happened at the Black Spot in the book. But goodness, it wouldn't do to read a 900 page book because then they would have to read the...gosh, sewer scene.

lovelyspearmint · 2021-10-29T20:40:52+00:00

Does nobody realise that plotline is straight from the book, which had come out almost 30 years prior to this movie.

lovelyspearmint · 2021-10-29T20:39:14+00:00

If it's Glen/Glenda, that was a character introduced in Seed of Chucky, which came out a good 13 odd years ago, if not more. It was a nod to the Ed Wood movie Glen or Glenda. At the time, it wasn't virtue signalling, I think it was a split personality thing more than anything.

lovelyspearmint · 2021-10-29T20:35:44+00:00

What did they expect him to do? To give the gay couple a thumbs up and then mumble TWAW?

lovelyspearmint · 2021-10-22T06:16:57+00:00

Whatever happened to 'consent can be withdrawn at any time'? The same should be said for attraction. Just because someone sent you signals doesn't mean they have no out if their mind changes.

lovelyspearmint · 2021-10-22T06:14:48+00:00

There's still something very female about her, especially in the way she poses. Not to mention there's Photoshop and makeup at play which could change her appearance drastically.

lovelyspearmint · 2021-10-21T10:09:52+00:00

It's not so much an exhaust vent as a massive gaping hole that has a bunch of neon signs pointing at it.

lovelyspearmint · 2021-10-21T02:15:57+00:00

Especially when you have those folks whose attraction "magically" turns off when someone comes out to them. Like you were perfectly capable of it five minutes ago, don't tell me that's not related to transphobia in any way.

That's not transphobia though. There is a specific term called a 'turn-off' in terms of attraction. As in, if you see someone behave some way, or you receive information that changes the way you see someone, you might not attracted anymore. For example, if I found someone attractive, then found out that they're my first cousin, or biological sibling, the attraction that was there will be gone. Same goes for deception. If someone hides a part of their identity to seem more desirable, of course attraction may dissipate if the other person finds out that they were not upfront about this detail.

Edit: Used the wrong term for deception

lovelyspearmint · 2021-10-21T02:10:41+00:00

Shameless US lived up to its name by showing a gay man being chewed out by a "gay" trans man, only for the gay man to apologise cause he was the bigot somehow.

lovelyspearmint · 2021-10-17T20:42:05+00:00

I'd say "full-grown moron", but that would imply there is a whisper of intelligence there.

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