I peaked after dating a trans girl and need advice on how to leave by lunemoonjune in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 52 insightful - 1 fun52 insightful - 0 fun53 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Why are you still saying "she"? "she" couldn't possibly wash "her" cock because "she" wouldn't have one. It's time to start unbrainwashing yourself. You're dating a man child. They're super common. You are not responsible for his self esteem or for building him up. It's his choices and actions that brought him to this point and its only his actions and choices that can help him.

You need to think about how this will affect you. If you're honest about the fact that he's a man and you can no longer abuse yourself by submitting to a relationship with a man, what's going to happen? Is he going to tell everyone and get you blacklisted in your friends group? Try to get you fired for being a 'bigot'? While I'm the type to generally say what I think and roll the dice, there are genuine consequence for you to consider here. He also may be a bit unstable. Do you live nearby? Does he know where? How easily can you cut off communication?

I think your best option is to

A) You need to be really clear in your own mind that you're not looking for behavior change, because he will try to negotiate his way back into a relationship with you. If you would stay with him if he behaved differently then there's a different discussion to be had first. But if you just don't want to be in this relationship any more, then honestly the fewer details the better. This is not what you want, the end. "No" is a complete sentence.

B) Reconnect with the support system you cut off. Start today.

C) Pick a good time, when you will be apart for a while, and break up right before it.

D) Be clear but give few details. You've realized you two are not good partners and you don't want to be in this relationship any longer. It's not any one specific thing, and you're not asking him to change. You would like to stay friends (if you would) but you want to take a few months apart without contact first so you can both heal and move on.

E) Just in case it comes up, threatening to kill himself if you do or don't do something is an abusive tactic and your response should be "I'm sorry you feel that way, I'll alert the appropriate services" and walking out of the house while calling the emergency line. A man who's desperate enough to harm himself is desperate enough to harm you too. You didn't mention anything like this, but i recognize the pattern.

F) do not contact or allow contact for a few months. That will just give him hope that you can rekindle something as you have before, at a time when you are both adjusting.

A relationship must be a PARTNERSHIP. Two horses pulling one cart. If one of you is doing all the pulling that's not a relationship, you're the parent to a 30 year old baby.

Men following GCF by woodrup in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 43 insightful - 1 fun43 insightful - 0 fun44 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What's really sad is that one day one each of those people are going to have an experience - the young men will see a man in a dress and lipstick follow their young daughter into a bathroom, or the women will ask for a female doctor and be presented with a bearded man, and it will feel terribly wrong, but they won't have the language to articulate why and they will be taught to hate themselves for even feeling that way.

You're right about 1984. I've also been reading a book about the origins of heresy in Christianity in the middle ages. It wasn't enough to say that jesus is the son of god, or that jesus is god as a part of the holy trinity, you had to manage to believe and articulate BOTH mutually contradictory positions at the same time, otherwise you're a heretic and you'll be killed. Just the same as we're now being told to profess a belief that transwomen are female, except without female bodies and talking about female bodies is exclusionary because it upsets the female people who have the opposite sex of body. It's not about stereotypes, but don't you dare call them by their 'man' name because it will be so destabilizing they might kill themselves and so on. We must profess to believe all these contradictory things at the same time and believe that each of them in an absolute truth.

The thing about lies and truths; lies have to be repeated constantly while the truth only has to be spoken once to be known. This is why they will shout "TRANSWOMEN ARE WOMEN! TRANSWOMEN ARE WOMEN! TRANSWOMEN ARE WOMEN!" but have a total breakdown when someone says "that's literally the only thing a 'transwoman' can't be. by the basic definitions of those words." Speaking the truth just once shatters the illusion. That's why you will never find a case of a GC person who came to believe that 'gender identity' is a real innate thing, while /r/gendercritical had literally tens of thousands of people who stopped believing in gender identity.

Don't lose hope though, you may have done a lot more for those people than you think. Many, many times I've had someone vehemently disagree with me, then think about what i said later on, google the points, and come back a few weeks later to tell me they'd totally changed their view.

Transwomen are Men, unless your definition of Woman is nonsense by our_team_is_winning in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 36 insightful - 1 fun36 insightful - 0 fun37 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

and we haven’t banned repairmen and emergency workers yet.

Yeah, we did actually. Male repairmen and emergency workers don't get to be housed in womens prisons when they commit crimes. They don't get to just go into womens change rooms whenever they like, or play on womens sports teams. Male doctors aren't allowed to perform an intimate procedure on a woman without another woman present because we don't trust them. We banned ALL men from the things "transgender" men want access to, and for good reason.

Most people are sane by [deleted] in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 35 insightful - 1 fun35 insightful - 0 fun36 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And the people who do go along with it are often so easily converted. Regarding the law change in victoria (allowing any man to self ID as a female with only a statutory declaration) one of my friends posted "what's the big deal? It's not like it affects you, GET OVER IT!" or something along those lines, so i replied with a list of "ways this change affects you" and that's all it took to take her from the height of trans inclusion to the peak of radfem mountain. One comment of the top of my head. Even the people who most vocally support gender really just haven't thought about it much.

I too love menstrual cup review videos and have found them really useful. One of my favorite channels was a quite young woman (late teens i think) comparatively reviewing the different cups in such a frank way that even I was startled. It's just so unusual, but so refreshing.

Without constant reaffirmation and indoctrination, children in lockdown are detransitioning. by Tovasshi in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 31 insightful - 1 fun31 insightful - 0 fun32 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They said "I bet there's a lot of gay kids going back into the closet too!!" I really doubt it. I really doubt there's any kid who came out to his parents as gay, was still living at home, and now as re-come out as straight during lock down. And if there was, we should consider that they too may have just been following the trend and not actually homosexual.

Peak trans: tell your story here by Sittingonarainbow in GenderCritical

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The left has become afraid of discussion. They believe that if we all talked openly, everyone would become Trump supporting Nazis.

I think it's because i few decades ago, racism, misogyny, and homophobia were far more common and accepted and 'the left' was the alternate. Meaning that in order to become left you would have to question the dominant narrative, and figure out what is true and right. Those people don't have to fear debate. Now people are raised in a world where left is the default. They've never had to ask questions like "but WHY is it important that gay people can get married? Really, it's just a piece of paper, a government document and a relic from a time when women were property. What's that got to do with two dudes in love?" They don't have a good answer for that because they've never had to look for one. "This is what good people believe, shut up and accept it." Just like fundamentalist christians they're afraid that allowing outside thought will turn people "to the devil" because they're actually very uncertain of themselves.

WE know that homophobia, racism, and misogyny are NOT morally or logically defensible, because we've checked. We never have to fear discussion.

People celebrating the banning of GC. by nonpenishaver in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 24 insightful - 2 fun24 insightful - 1 fun25 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yep. Just because they say the sky is blue that does NOT mean they're on our side.

[Currently "FtM"] You guys are right by please_help in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You need to learn some methods for guiding your own thoughts. You mind is like a garden, and your thoughts are plants. If they please you, water them and nurture them. If they're harmful, get rid of them. And make sure you pull them out by the root so they don't grow back.

Here's a method I taught myself that's sort of like a meditation. When you notice a distressing thought, take it out on its own and inspect it.

"I consider them tumors" lets just objectively look at that. Is it true? Are breasts tumors? No, of course not. They're a perfectly normal part of a woman's body. Is it helpful? Not really, it makes you feel negatively about yourself, about being seen, and it's leading you to consider drastic surgical intervention. What emotion is it based on? These things are growing and you don't want them there. You cant keep repeating something in your mind once you know it's totally not true, so rephrase it into something that is true: "I consider my breasts to be a perfectly natural growth that I'm uncomfortable with."

Let's do the second one, "They shouldn't be on my body" Is that true? They're breasts, you're a 16 year old girl. Is it true or is it false? Is it a helpful thought? Is it making you feel good or helping you to achieve something that you want to do? What emotion is it based on? Now rephrase that thought into something that's genuinely true. An example might be "even though breasts are normal body parts, I'd rather I didn't have them."

I was very interested in the macabre when i was younger, go with it. I second herbalism and taxidermy as great hobbies to focus your energy on.

Your body is for getting around in. You only look at it for a few seconds a day. Don't risk impacting the other 23 hours, 59 minutes and 45 seconds for vanity. No surgery is risk free.

The reasoning behind TIFs and TIMs is clear... But wtf is the validation behind NB?? by Jekawi in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 22 insightful - 2 fun22 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The thinking seems to be "I don't like what's expected of women, but I know I can't change sex and I don't want to take hormones. If only there was some other option..." Claiming to be neither sex doesn't make any less sense than claiming to be the opposite.

UNB tries to force student to apologize to guest speaker for questioning their dogma. Student refuses. by Tovasshi in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 21 insightful - 2 fun21 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

They never run out of witches to burn.

I peaked after dating a trans girl and need advice on how to leave by lunemoonjune in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Apologies in advance to moody_ape if she's reading this and feels attacked ;)

Some people feel depressed for a damn good reason. Depression isn't always an inexplicable mental illness. If I was 30 and had never achieved anything, didn't know how to take care of myself at all, and made everyone around me miserable, I'd be depressed too. Sometimes feeling bad is a GOOD thing, it motivates us to do better. If he hadn't been coddled so much and prevented from feeling bad he probably would've done something to fix his life by now. It is NOT your responsibility to prevent him from feeling the natural outcomes of his own actions.

You go swimming, you get wet. You spend 30 years dependent on your parents and a lesbian you coerced into dating you while retreating into a fantasy land, you get depressed. It's not your job to dry him off. He's an adult. He can figure it out.

Peter “Katrina” Swales is a power mod of subs r/lgbt_KidsZone & r/transgenderteens but r/GenderCritical is banned. The world is upside-down. by Oof_Too_Humid in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

yeh as im getting older im seeing "acceptance" and "exclusivity" as not purely good things. A good dose of shunning and exclusive is sometimes really good for society.

We need this showing up on Google for a gender critical search. So pardon me but here goes. by 100_percent_truth in GenderCritical

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Being referred to as "Transphobic", do you just accept the label? by Kai_Decadence in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 18 insightful - 2 fun18 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

transphobic is the least of what you will be called. You will be called a racist, a bigot, a literal murder, and accused of committing hate crimes. Don't adopt any labels that aren't accurate. I'd suggest make a first video about being gender critical, make sure you carefully draw the lines on what you believe (of course people can dress themselves any way they want, but that doesn't change your. No, no one should be beaten up based on their beliefs about themselves, but also women shouldn't be forced to share intimate spaces with men no matter what those men feel). Then collect the comments from that video and make a second one about all the slurs and accusations you received and how stupid they are. Double the content, and controversy drives traffic. Also, if no one threatens to rape you to death you can point out the JKR received those threats and you didn't, because misogyny.

The brutal honest truth about Transgender MTF dating. I could have predicted this ...anyone could have. The trans cult will never tell kids about the downsides. by Cacator in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"Transitioning" pretty expertly removes you from the dating pool. Gay men and straight women don't want you because you don't look like a normal man, straight men and lesbians don't want you because you arent actually a woman. Even bisexual people are attracted to both sexes of people, not likely both types of sexual characteristics in the one body.

It's almost not even possible to be sexually attracted to post op TIMs or TIFs. I don't think anyone really wants their ideal partner to have both tits and an adams apple, because up until now that hasn't been a type of human that existed. You might as well be sexually oriented towards people with 6 legs or tentacles. It really can't be anything other than a fetish to be sexually attracted to post op trans people as a group because it's a totally unnatural state of being.

I know this is going to be screen capped onto other websites as an example of trans-hate :) it's still true though

[Currently "FtM"] You guys are right by please_help in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You are 16. You do not want a double mastectomy. You don't even know your body yet. You haven't seen your body yet. It isn't finished developing. Your brain wont finish maturing until you're in your 20s. To say that you know right now that you want to make a permanent modification to your body is so rash it is itself proof that you're not mature enough to make such a choice right now.

That probably sounds condescending to you but it's important. The discomfort you have now, it ENDS. It really does, and not long into the future.

The wisdom of my extra decade and a bit has taught me it's crucially important not to fuck with your body any more than you absolutely have to. You are not a Mr Potato head that can have parts added on or removed without consequences. Your body is one interconnected whole. Messing with any one component has flow on effects. Stop binding your chest. Long term use decreases lung capacity and will make the entire rest of your life harder than it should be.

Whats "disgusting" about tits? Are they gangrenous and rotten? Got maggots in them? There's nothing "disgusting" about any part of your body. That is just a thought in your head. You can change that thought any time you want just by deciding to. Decide now that your body is just fine. Hating your body is a waste of life (another lesson I had to learn after I was your age).

whether I am actually a lesbian or I am a guy

Well you can't be a guy, so mystery solved. No one can ever change sex. There's not such thing as being a man "on the inside". While we're at it "gender dysphoria" isn't a real thing either. Being uncomfortable with your body is normal, especially in puberty. Being uncomfortable with the femaleness of your body is so normal it's boring given the society we live in. I don't know ANY woman who was perfectly happy with her body at your age. In my day it was anorexia, bulimia, and cutting. Now it's mastectomies and testosterone. The sooner you change course away from self hate, the better off you'll be. You can never hate yourself into becoming someone that you can love.

I know that I have xx chromosomes (most likely, never actually had them analyzed :0)

If you've even had a period you are 100% for sure a woman. Trans talk likes to make it seem like you never really know for sure but almost everyone knows for sure by the time they're your age whether they're male or female. If you menstruate out of your vagina you are female. If you ejaculate out of your penis you are male.

Look, being a teenager is fucking HARD. Your emotions are cranked up to 11, you have responsibility but no freedom, and you have no experience to draw on in any situation whether internal or external. It sucks. Anyone who tells you it's the best time of your life is full of shit. But it WILL end. You just have to hang in there. I experienced a major shift in my thinking and emotions when i was 19, without doing anything at all. It's just maturing.

Don't obsess about something that's distressing you as the idea of transgender clearly is. Distract yourself, challenge the negative thoughts, or just wait them out.

I think if you work on accepting who you really are - a perfectly normal 16 year old girl with plenty to offer the world - you will be much happier than obsessing over an idea you can never achieve. I suggest reading about awesome women from history who broke out of social restrictions to do exactly what they wanted, because being uncomfortable with being or looking female comes mostly from the expectations that are associated with that. From listening to de-transers, 'social transitioning' just makes the feeling of being out of place so much worse, so my gentle advice would be to just drop it altogether, give it a few months, and see how you feel.

What's the deal with TIFs? by msteacherlady in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Theyre self hating women. Thats why they transition in the first place.

What' wrong with the concept of 'cis'? Reading Gender Hurts by Spikygrasspod in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"Cis" also means you agree that you were born to be naturally submissive, dainty, and to like ribbons and sparkles.

Gender is the set of social roles, rules and expectations assigned to a sex. "Gender identity" is the idea that a persons 'gender' is an innate trait, something you are born with. Transgender (to a transperson) means they were born with the opposite sexes roles 'innate' to them. Cis means you were born with the 'correct' set of innate gender roles.

If you agree that you are 'cis' then you're saying that you and all women are naturally inclined to wear make up, be sexually attractive to men, be a mother, cook, clean, wear dresses and heels, like the colour pink, be bad at math and spatial reasoning, hate sports and getting dirty, etc. etc. All the things that transpeople say are reasons they "knew" they were a woman.

My personal rules on pronouns and names have become very simple - I won't tell someone elses lies for them. If he wants to say his name is Sheila, and the he's a 'she', that's fine. Free speech. But I won't tell his lies for him. I call it like i see it. "She" is a small lie, but it's still one, and it's one that will be utilized later against other women ("everyone ELSE calls me 'she' you bigot!") and when trying to access our spaces. I don't see a reason to help him with that.

Additionally, I really believe that a lot of these transpeople are mentally ill. They're operating in a delusional state, some as a result of trauma. They really do believe they ARE female, and the doctors and everyone around them confirm that belief. If your friend came up to you and said that he IS King George of England, he fully believes that, and his pronouns are now 'your majesty', would you go along with it 'out of politeness'? Or would that be enabling a harmful delusion? Would you instead, as kindly as possible, say "It might upset you to hear this, but you're not a king, you're not from England and I won't call you 'your majesty' because doing that would harm you."? That's a delusion which really won't do him any physical harm. Enabling a persons delusion of being the opposite sex can REALLY cause them physical harm as they go down the path of 'physical' transition. Your being "polite" could give them lifelong medical problems, or even kill them in the long run.

So ask yourself, are you really 'being polite' or are you just avoiding confrontation?

I am not a radical feminist, but WTF reddit? by [deleted] in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The thing about radfems is they're kind of a downer in general but the more you listen the more theyre just goddamn correct. You eventually have to agree, yes, pornography is bad and watching it is a bad thing to do. Prostitution is an evil thing even in countries where women 'freely choose it'. Drag is womanface. Wearing make up holds us all back even if it's "a fun hobby" for you. It's not a fun perspective, but it's just right.

The holes that TERFs exploit by Chunkeeguy in GenderCritical

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Pregnancy and building a family is the big reason women are disadvantaged in the workplace in the United States. So who is more privileged, women who can't get pregnant or those who can?

Men. Men is the answer to that question.

Our society depends, at the most basic level, on women birthing and raising children. There is no economy or society without that work. The fact that it is poorly respected and not supported, to the extent that it has a negative affect on a woman's life while she's bringing uncountable positive value to the society around her is the problem. Not whether infertile women have it worse. Not men in skirts. The complete dismissal of women's labor and the structures which have been built that unnecessarily keep women with infants out of work are "the big reason women are disadvantaged in the workplace". It's men who are more privileged.

A quick word of caution regarding reinstated and surviving women's subs... by marmorsymphata in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

WE would not be destroying the space. REDDIT would be.

Your whole post here has a "look what you made him do" vibe to it. You really need to look into that. Figure out the line between your behavior and other peoples behavior.

Internal conflict is causing me to struggle... by GenCritAllDay in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is hard, it sucks that they are grooming kids like that and that you're being put in such a bind.

You are being called to a higher level. To higher and deeper strength. It's time to tap into it. Don't forget, we are the granddaughters of all the witches they couldn't burn.

I would leak the situation to parents, if you know any who are indicating they're GC. Subtly encourage them to organise, especially the dads.

I would oppose these moves, especially using what I'm starting to call "woke-jitsu". E.g. "Excuse me Principle, I'm concerned that asking people to use pronouns on every zoom call is going to be terribly uncomfortable to and trans or questioning kids who aren't out yet, and agender kids who don't identify with any pronouns at all, including 'they'. You're asking kids to either lie or to out themselves and i don't think it's ok and it's a distraction from the school work. It's affecting equality of schooling for LBGT students. If announcing their pronouns makes them uncomfortable it will cause absenteeism. Can we please have a standard policy of not asking or mentioning pronouns unless the student specifically requests?"

Was this male teacher hanging out with two female student every lunch?? That's surely inappropriate! Formal, anonymous complaint about appropriate boundaries.

Finally, I wonder if you and the other teacher (I assume a woman) could look at the idea of a 'red tent' group at the school. Totally "gender inclusive" of course but sex segregated. ALL genders are welcome, but it's specifically for female students to be with other female students. The male teachers can organise something equivalent for the boys if they want. It could include lunch time fun activities, extracurricular learning about historical women, visits from female professionals, lessons on their body and how it works, talking about how to make and enforce boundaries, and access to a special female only area with a 'period box' for supplies. Once that idea gets entrenched "No, it's ALLLLL genders, just the female sex because we're talking about sex specific body things" then give it 6 months an you could float the idea of putting the Red Ten Box in one of the ALL GENDER (but now single sex purely to the practicality of putting the period box in there) stalls.

WOKE JITSU, BITCHES.

Don't forget kids are smart. Be open about the contradiction, that sex and gender are not the same and it's ok to want female only bathrooms and unfair that they've been taken away. You are teaching kids more than facts. You're showing them how to stand up.

Am I the only one who *kind of* believes in transsexualism as a valid thing? by gencritcurious in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 14 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You sound like you're on the path, but you're still in the thick bushes. Keep going, there's a clearing ahead.

There are 2 genders, and they're both inherently tied to sex.

What is a gender, and what do you mean "inherantly" tied to sex? Here in GC we believe that 'gender' is the set of social roles, rules and expectations pushed on a person because of their sex. Genders are not 'inherent' (existing in something as a permanent, essential, or characteristic attribute) because they vary across time and cultures in arbitrary ways. Leggings and high heels used to be worn exclusively by men. Kilts are for men. Pink used to be for boys. Computing used to be 'for women' and now it's well paid it's 'for men'.

Most people are born male/female and stay that way,

Everyone stays that way. No one has ever changed sex. It can't be done. Sex is defined by the potential role you would play in sexual reproduction (it's why the sexes exist in the first place) - would you be impregnated, or impregnator? No human has ever produced both sperm and egg, or switched from producing one to producing the other.

become a woman or a man socially.

What does it mean to be 'socially' a man or a woman? I have short hair, wear pants, don't wear make up and work only in male dominated fields. Am I "socially a man"? Or is it only people who lie about their sex who become "socially" the opposite sex?

Some trans people are able to get astoundingly good results from surgery/hrt

A lot of people think legless lizards are snakes. They aren't. Just because it kind of looks like something doesn't make it so. And in this case we're talking about extensive cosmetic surgery. There's a guy who had craploads of cosmetic surgery to make himself look like a Ken Doll. Did he become a Ken Doll? No. He became a man who's had craploads of surgery. He now 'identifies as a woman'. If you can think he's a 'neo-woman' because he had surgery to look like one, then you must also believe that he was a 'neo-ken doll'. There's other people who've had surgery to look like cats and dragons.

I feel like if you have estrogen(synthetic or not), a neo-vagina, a feminine face, and breasts, you're a woman to general society

You're not though. Women are not A La Carte. You can't pick and mix enough 'female-ish' attributes and make a woman. The only thing that makes a person a woman is being an adult female human. Otherwise, you also have to say that a post menopausal woman with masculine features and a mastectomy is no longer a woman. If you've ever had testicles you're for sure a bloke and there's no amount of surgery that changes that, for the same reason there's nothing that can happen to a woman that makes her no longer a woman.

theres something to be said about the fact that lesbians/straight men are not attracted to people like buck angel/ vice versa for transwomen.

There is a valid point to be made here. People like Buck have never existed before in the past. Humans evolved secondary sex characteristics making it possible to tell with almost 100% accuracy which sex a person is with a microsecond glance. It's almost impossible for a man to alter his secondary sex characteristics to the point where it's possible to mistake him for a woman, but women who take testosterone can become convincing facsimiles of men, if they already had a slight masculine frame. Testosterone is a one way street, and our brains did not evolve with a need to be able to identify women like Buck. However, I think it's fair to say that most people of either sex are not attracted to either type of transsexual. Transition generally involves removing sex characteristics. For example, a TIM will attempt to remove all the characteristics that make him attractive as a man (adams apple, beard, etc), but they will not be able to add many of the characteristics that make women attractive (waist-hip ratio, for example). People who physically transition are essentially deliberately giving themselves a severe intersex condition, altering their hormonal balance (pheromones play a huge role in attraction), and often making themselves sterile. The result is a person with a mix of sexual characteristics that seem to throw up a "this person is sick - not a viable mate" flag deep in the subconscious mind.

Passing is mostly a myth. Buck is the one exception I know of where you wouldn't know from looking at him. It's usually very obvious from watching a person walk (men and womens hips and gaits are dramatically different and that doesn't change), and at best it raises confusion. You might be 99% sure that the person with long hair and lipstick is a man, but best not to cause offence on the off chance you're wrong. That being said, even if people SAY they believe he's a woman, they still treat him like a man, and vice versa. There was an article on here recently about a TIM raping and attempting to impregnate a TIF. TIM's still get male privilege and TIFs still experience misogyny when people suspect their actual sex (most of the time).

They're different, sure, but at the end of the day, its more or less the same experience as a biological woman/man.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Being a man in bio drag is nowhere near the same experience as being a woman. I was THIRTY before i understood how my body actually works (ladies, FAM is where it's at) because women's biology isn't even on the radar. Medical science barely understands how our bodies react to drugs. We're discriminated against in employment and politics, while men in drag are given the places which were intended to get us fair representation. Tell me where the overlap is in Bruce Jenner's experiences and mine?

I dont think that neo-females belong in female-only spaces like reproductive health/similar things, but I do think they belong in spaces that are for WOMEN, like the public bathroom.

Men do not belong in womens spaces. Those spaces are FOR US. If you can at least recognise that your "neo women" are a different category, then fight for them to have their own bathrooms. Their own sports, and their own scholarships. You have no right to take away what women have spent hundreds of years fighting for.

IMO people can become women

Only if they are born female human babies, then grow up.

but they cannot become true females

Woman means adult human female. Taking it to mean anything else is sexist. "Person who looks feminine", "Person who gets treated as the lesser half of society", "person who may be sexually objectified". Seriously, come up with a non-sexist definition of "woman" that doesn't include the fact that we are the female half of the human sex?

"Females" is a group that refers to mares, heifers, flowers, and electrical sockets. There needs to be a name for the group of humans historically and continually discriminated against in every aspect of society based on their biological sex. And that word is WOMAN.

How do I learn to love trans people and the trans movement by fuckupaddams in GenderCritical

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My friends wouldn't stand for my true viewpoints

They're not your friends. They are your fellow cult members. They WILL cut you off when you leave the cult, because that's how cults work.

For all the ranting I do on the internet, this is my real life. What can I do?

Speak to them one at a time, calmly make them explain their point of view. Say "Hey, I want to believe you, but what you're saying isn't making sense. Feelings aren't sex." and when they can't explain it say "well, i can't blindly believe something just because I'm told to. If you figure it out let me know."

You can't re-indoctrinate yourself once you see the light, sorry. Can't be done. You can put their lies in your mouth if you want but I promise it will taste disgusting and you'll hate yourself for it.

Join groups of older people and more practical groups, e.g. gardening, repair, and craft. It really is a small proportion who believe this shit, they're just concentrated in certain social groups.

Being referred to as "Transphobic", do you just accept the label? by Kai_Decadence in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nup. I have a tendency of not giving an inch in an argument. It's really effective.

Explain what exactly I'm "phobic" of, and where I've shown that, or say you were wrong. Can't do that? Better believe I'm going to bring it up relentlessly until you do.

I throw definitions at them and watch my language. Saying people can't change sex isn't "phobic" it's factual.

Don't accept and say "well if believing men can't wish themselves into being female makes me transphobic, then fine i guess I am" because that will be just you admitting that you're a terrible bigotted person. Make them justify it.

Internal conflict is causing me to struggle... by GenCritAllDay in GenderCritical

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The DOE prohibits gender segregation for health classes, including for classes or portions of these classes that deal primarily with human sexuality.

Gross. so the girls can't even learn about their own bodies in privacy. I hate everything.

Am I the only one who *kind of* believes in transsexualism as a valid thing? by gencritcurious in GenderCritical

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If a man has more "feminine" hobbies or personality traits, then they should be allowed to do so without being harassment.

The problem is when there's a link created between these hobbies or traits and the sex of the body, or the sex of the soul (gender identity). Any time those are linked and that link is supported by an authority it reinforces exactly the same shit that feminists have been fighting against since forever.

"I like dresses, therefore I'm a woman" is exactly the same logic as "You're a woman, you must wear dresses." and "If you don't wear dresses you're not a real woman." In supporting 'transgender' ideas we're reinforcing our own cage.

Be David Bowie. Wear make up, wear tights, do what you like and who you like, but dont pretend it has anything to do with sex.

I'm feeling weirdly optimistic for Saidit by jelliknight in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight[S] 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

How many users/readers sidewide? is there any way to tell?

ETA the main sub has 33,000 users so let's go with that as a general estimate.

r/gendercritical had about 68,000 before the shutdown. Let's do it! Let's get all us GC people here and make saidit 60% GC!

Can someone tell me if this is true that they are making real penises and vaginas using tissues? by [deleted] in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm not going to bother reading the links.

What makes the constructed different from the actual thing when both look and feel the same?

They are a fuck hole. That's all. No faux-gina is a vagina. it's a fuckable cavity carved into a pelvis. It has less in common with a vagina than a gunshot wound does.

First, a vagina doesn't just "secrete fluid". It secretes several specific and distinct types of fluids, arousal fluid is produced by special glands which males do not have called Bartholin's glands. It also continually produces moisture which maintains the health of the tissue, and is at a particular pH (which actually changes during the cycle). The vagina also, importantly, ends in a cervix which secretes its own fluids and they also change throughout the cycle. The vagina is made up of accordion like tissue and is surrounded by musculature which allows it to expand and contract under conscious and unconscious control. And then the whole thing is encircled by the clitoris, a structure which is only barely understood by medicine.

None of the constructed faux-ginas do or have any of these things. They are all simply holes, carved into a man, for the sake of his vanity and another man's penis. Faux-ginas do not maintain themselves. They must be forced open for hours a day, every single day, or they will close. No vagina does that.

And secondly, none of them, not even the best "look and feel" like the real thing. At all. Look up pictures of Phalloplasty. The pictures you can find online are the best results. The vagina, being mostly internal, is a little harder to see but it's no less ridiculous.

When it comes to the Bathroom thing, what do you say about the Women who claim they have no problem with TIMs being in the restroom? by Kai_Decadence in GenderCritical

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Literally no one has ever suggested underpants checks at the door.

What is LEGAL and what happens IN PRACTICE are different. Legally, I'm not allowed to swerve around an animal on the road. I still do, and should, but the law exists so that if I cause an accident saying "I saw a bird" isn't a defense.

When it's not LEGAL for any man to be in a woman's bathroom, any hypothetically passing TIM can use it. And be actually safer because there are no "cis men" getting in. Women do not, in practice, stop butch looking women and demand to see their genitals. We don't question anyone because the chance that we're wrong would be humiliating to all parties. But when a TIM or 'cis male' is creeping women out we're able to get them removed because the law is clear about which side it's on. The law exists so that a creep can't use "i feel like a girl today" as a defense.

When it is made legal for any man to use the women's bathrooms, there is no way to remove a creep. There could be 10 men in there making sexual threats to you, and you can't make them leave or even report it. You're the bigot if you do. You can't prove what they said or did, you can't prove 'creepy'. The law's stance is "get raped first, then i might care. IF you can prove it." Literally every rapist and pedophile is allowed in women's bathrooms. Allowed to hang out in there all day long if they like, until AFTER they've been proven to have committed a crime. And once they get out of prison they can use them again. In practice the result is that all vulnerable women are excluded form all public bathrooms and therefore have limited access to public spaces.

The next town over from me houses a protection prison, i.e. lots of pedophiles get released from there and walk straight into the community. Ask that woman next time, how many of them she thinks should be able to hang out in the women's public toilets without being questioned?

How do I learn to love trans people and the trans movement by fuckupaddams in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 11 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Don't have friends then. Seriously. These aren't friends, these are enemies you let have access to you in your home or when you're vulnerable. If they're genuinely the only option you're better off without.

You won't be though. When women confidently speak up for themselves and refuse to compromise it acts like a beacon to other amazing women.

Saidit is hosted on a pro-transgender host. Ovarit is run by women, for women. I highly recommend it. Getting DDOSed, it could be a matter of time this place gets the boot too. by AshleyBackwoods in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

My problem with Ovarit is that is ONLY for feminism and always will be. I'm interested in other stuff too and dont want to jump between multiple platforms.

Unlikely Ally by SterlingRoark in GenderCritical

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Abortion rights and adoption are completely unrelated issues. Please allow me to educate you on this topic.

If abortion is illegal, women lose all rights over their bodies for their entire fertile lives. When a woman has missed her first period, she is defined as being already 4 weeks pregnant. Many times women conceive and then miscarry during the monthly cycle and have their next period as normal. This is called a chemical pregnancy as it would show up on a pregnancy test, but since you don't miss a period most people would say you weren't really pregnant (even though there was definitely a conception).

Almost anything can cause a miscarriage. Pomegranates, parsley, certain seeds - all of these have potential abortive actions. Falling, jumping, crunches, really any vigorous exercise can also cause an abortion in certain circumstances. The only difference between a miscarriage and an abortion is whether or not the woman is believed to have intended that outcome.

No birth control is 100% effective, and women don't always get to choose whether or not to have sex.

Add all these up and the result is that if you criminalize abortion you criminalize women. All women between the ages of 13 and 60 are murder suspects all the time.

My period is a day late and I ate a pomegranate. Am I now a murderer? Can I prove that I'm not?

I was 12 weeks pregnant and i went for a bike ride. Later I had a miscarriage. Murderer?

I was 4 month pregnant and I wasn't happy about it. I had a miscarriage. Can I prove it was natural?

This already happens in other countries. Women are in jail for having miscarriages they swear were unintentional.

More to the point, whether or not you think a conception or a fetus is a human, it's inarguable that THE WOMAN is a human. Pregnant women don't stop being human beings. They still have rights to go where they like, eat what they like, exercise any way that that like, and touch their own bodies in any way they like. There is NO WAY to prevent abortion without taking these rights away from women. Trust me, there are dozens of safe and reliable ways for women to procure abortion without medical help. What should the punishment be for a woman who firmly massages her own belly? To outlaw abortion or even restrict it is to make women prisoners in their own bodies.

You can dislike abortion, but opposing its legality is plain old woman hating and it has real consequences. Not every woman knows how to safely procure an abortion so women die when abortion is limited.

Men have never been comfortable with the inescapable fact that women by nature determine which babies will be born, when, and to whom. The struggle by men to gain control of this has been the cause of a lot of suffering in the world.

The fact is that a fetus is NOT a person, it is a PART of another person; the woman. If you have any doubt about that there's a simple thought experiment; What medication could I take that would have an effect on you? What medication would cause a risk to you by me taking it? None. Because we are different people. If i have a 6 year old child and I take medication it can't possibly harm the child. The only body affected by me taking medication is mine. And I have the right to decide what happens to, in, or on my body.

Pretty much 99.9% of people are "TERFS" by [deleted] in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 11 insightful - 6 fun11 insightful - 5 fun12 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

Every transperson is a TERF.

How do you know if your gender identity doesn't align with your sex? Are you saying sex is binary? Are you saying there's just one gender identity for each sex? TERF!! What, you want hormones? You think being a woman has anything to do with estrogen? TERF!! Why are you trying to get onto the 'female' sports team? Don't you know ANY body can be a female body? And those menstruators could be any sex or gender. Did you ask everyone on the 'male' team how they identify or did you just assume YOU TERF!!

A quick word of caution regarding reinstated and surviving women's subs... by marmorsymphata in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Fuck it. We, as woman, as a whole, need to STOP taking responsibility for abusers actions. If they ban those subs it will be, wholly and solely, because they chose to. Fuck it, let those subs come on over here as well. In fact, I'd encourage the mods to set up a 'mirror' group here right now.

"Vanilla shame" - yet another byproduct of liberal feminism? by vitunrotta in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Vanilla is fucking delicious.

Mutually pleasurable sex is also delicious

User on /r/MTF advocates for rape by deception. by [deleted] in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 10 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

AHAHAHA

Have you seen a phalloplasty? I could make a more realistic penis with a saveloy and some duct tape. And they generally can't get erect at all. I fell like I'd also notice the huge chucks of flesh missing from my partners forearm and/or legs.

Totally detached from reality.

I peaked after dating a trans girl and need advice on how to leave by lunemoonjune in GenderCritical

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no matter what i do, it seems i can't change my situation. my life sucks and i'm over 30.

Baby steps, darling, baby steps. We get to start fresh every day.

They're soooo close to getting it... by denverkris in GenderCritical

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Yes. A lie has to be repeated to exist.

Even if no one in the world calls me a woman, I still am one. The truth goes on being true no matter what.

Bruce Jenner, for example, is a man that people will say is a woman. The second people stop saying it he goes back to just being a regular man. Lies disappear as soon as they stop being spoken.

I always thought muslims praying 5 times a day seemed fucking excessive. Even if you believe, can't you just like give god a mental high 5 throughout your day? But it makes sense. You have to reinforce a lie constantly and not allow and opposition to be spoken if you want to give the lie power.

Unlikely Ally by SterlingRoark in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A miscarriage literally is an abortion. It's a natural or spontaneous abortion. The only difference between a miscarriage and an abortion is whether or not you believe the woman intended it.

I don't believe that anyone actually 'uses abortion as birth control'. That's a conservative myth.

Your views do matter. You vote, you talk to people who vote.

Unlikely Ally by SterlingRoark in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

To be clear, we are not on the same side as conservatives generally are.

There was a handy graphic on the old subdreddit.

Transgender is the belief that Men are manly inside and women are girly inside, and if your body doesn't match your inside you should change your body.

Conservatives tend to believe that Men are manly inside and women are girly inside too. The difference between this group and the trans group is that they don't agree with changing your body. Instead they think men should toughen up and women should get back in the kitchen.

Here we believe that "manly" and "girly" are stupid arbitrary concepts that aren't related to sex at all, except in the way that they are forced on each sex. Women don't naturally like dresses more than men, men aren't naturally better at mechanics than women. We oppose all links between the sex of the body and personality/beliefs/preferences/abilities.

TRA's peaking everyone all by themselves... by [deleted] in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

There's no force in the universe more powerful than a woman who has said "you know what? FUCK THIS" :)

Pretty much 99.9% of people are "TERFS" by [deleted] in GenderCritical

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2020 olympics will have 6'4" men winning the women's weightlifting event. That will be the beginning of the end of trans.

Covid is still a hoax, people. by mongre in conspiracy

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I also agree that many deaths are counted as COVID-19 deaths when they aren't necessarily.

The thing is, it works the other way too. In italy they went back after the peak of the corona has passed and did some 'death accounting'. They had a certain number of deaths attributed to corona, and you would assume that the deaths from all other causes (old age, traffic accidents, heart attack etc) would stay the same or decrease during the corona period (more old people dying of corona is fewer dying of pneumonia, lock down means fewer traffic accidents and workplace accidents). Instead they found that the death rate from non-corona causes went UP significantly during the peak of the pandemic compared to what was projected based on before/after/previous years. They looked into it further and found out that what was happening is that someone would get corona that was "asymptomatic" but it put a lot of stress on their system and have them a heart attack, or an asthma attack. We also have seen cases of people who 'recovered' from corona virus dying of a stroke (it causes blood clots). These cases were caused directly by the virus but were recorded as non-corona deaths. The death rate was actually much higher than they thought it was at the time.

In conclusion: -the virus is real -It's way more deadly and problematic than the flu -Lock down is the only proven way to stop it (well done New Zealand!), though tough distancing and hygiene measures (masks) can get pretty close to stopping it.

ETA: Here's a link with some nice simple graphs showing the effect, called 'excess mortality'

There's some censorship going on in the newly popular feminist subs and it needs to be openly addressed. by [deleted] in SaidIt

[–]jelliknight 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Why not, though?

It's a curated sub now. Imagine if I had a gardening sub, and people were posting irrelevant stuff, or comments about how gardening is stupid. I take it off r/all to make it a better space for the people who want to learn about tomatoes. Why shouldn't I be able to remove the comments that never fitted the goal and wouldn't be allowed now?

Is there an explicit rule about this?

Proof that Reddit's banwave was extremely misogynistic by [deleted] in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't know if it's just the algorithm but most of the posts on my default saidit page are GC. Are we the most active sub on here?

So RIP the Subreddit that saved me from being trans. by blahblahgcer in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"If you think you might be trans, you're trans!" That's some grade A cult shit right there. "If you've ever thought about aliens, that's them calling you back to the mother ship."

You keep calling yourself gullible. You don't need to take quite so much responsibility. It's good to look and know where you went wrong but you're not stupid for being fooled by people who were trying to fool you. You're not a sucker for thinking people have your best interests in mind when they tell you they do and you don't yet have a reason to doubt. You'll be wiser next time.

And it's not homophobia to be creeped out by furries. It's a gut instinct warning you of danger.

The holes that TERFs exploit by Chunkeeguy in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"well OBVIOUSLY the disadvantages of being trans outweigh the benefits of male privilege"

Even if that were true (it isn't, you could argue that TIMs have additional privileges on top of male privilege) it's irrelevant. You can have male privilege and have a disability, and in the combined total of those be treated more poorly overall than an able bodied woman, e.g. in terms of employment. That doesn't mean you aren't male or don't have male privilege.

When it comes to the Bathroom thing, what do you say about the Women who claim they have no problem with TIMs being in the restroom? by Kai_Decadence in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Look I honestly don't have a problem with a transwoman in a womans bathroom with me.

But:

A) I'm picturing a single, semi-passing transwoman, in a very public space like a mall bathroom. I'm not picturing 6 bikers hanging out by the sinks in a pub bathroom, combing their beards, talking about fucking sluts, while very drunk lone young women have to push past them in order to pee. I'm not picturing two creepy fellas with pedophile glasses at a highway rest stop, happily inviting me to come in. But they're equally allowed in as long as they momentarily self identify as female. Even I wouldn't put myself in that situation, i'd go home or go somewhere else to find a safer bathroom and that is the problem. Men in women's toilets limits women's access to public spaces.

B) I don't mind the idea of a single TIM because I'm a physically large woman with no history of victimization and who's not afraid to make a scene if the situation calls for it. I don't get to make that choice on behalf of every teen, elder woman, disabled woman, religious woman, timid woman, injured or weak woman, woman with young children, and survivor. If even ONE of them is less likely to use the bathroom because there's a man in it then it's misogynistic. Women's bathrooms exist specifically for vulnerable women to ensure they can access public spaces. If all bathrooms became mixed sex, I'd still use them but there are women who wouldn't or who would use them less. That is the problem. The actual assaults aren't honestly the biggest issue for me, the increased danger of assaults will impact vulnerable women's behavior with a much for far reaching consequence.

C) Bathrooms are a trojan horse. It's also change rooms, dormitories, prisons etc which are a whole other kettle of fish.

D) If me and the woman you're talking to are so comfortable with men then the obvious solution is to write "Mixed sex, All gender" on the men's toilets. Boom. Problem solved. Identity affirmed. She can go in there to piss and show how woke she is while vulnerable women can still be safe. In reality if you did that almost every woman would still choose to use the women only bathroom. Because we are more comfortable with that. And our comfort matters.

The propaganda they are drilling into our kids - "Being a trans girl is like being a girl with freckles..." (Yeah, if a freckle was a PENIS) by BEB in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Being a trans girl is actually like being a boy with freckles. And claiming that freckles are cute, and cute things are girly, therefore you're a girl.

Connection between HAES/Fat Acceptance and supporting men in women's sport? by eddyelric in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Massive reach. I really think you're just trying to connect two groups you don't like.

I see a lot of hate for HAES online. Be honest, have you ever read the book?

The basic concepts explained in it (and very much backed up in the science) are:

-Excess weight and negative health are largely correlated rather than causal. Both are caused often by unhealthy behaviors.

-When controlling for health behaviors like a varied, nutritious diet and regular exercise, the negative health effect of excess weight almost (not entirely) disappears.

-We really don't know how to make people lose weight. There are almost no studies which show a better than negligible number of people losing a significant amount of weight and keeping it off in the long term, regardless of the diet/restrictions attempted or the incentives. If there was any diet where more than 5% of people who try it lose more than 20% of their body weight and keep it off for 3 years everyone would be doing that.

-We do know that when overweight people undertake healthy behaviors such as eating properly and exercising, their health improves to almost that of a normal weight person with similarly health behaviors.

-We also know that repeated attempts to lose weight almost always have a negative impact on health, including a long term increase in weight.

-We also know that other things such as hormonal disruption, stress, and sleep problems can cause weight gain or loss even when people are eating the same amount, so we really don't have a good grasp on what controls body weight in human biology.

The conclusion of the book isn't "hey, be fat, who cares?" It's FOR SHITS SAKE DON'T GET FAT, WE DON'T SEEM TO BE ABLE TO UNDO IT AND IT DOES HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON HEALTH. However, if you already are fat, trying to lose weight has far more negatives than positives. You're far better off focusing on getting healthy by eating a wide variety of nutritious and low calorie foods that you find satisfying, and exercising every day in enjoyable ways. This leads to better long term overall health and may even cause weightloss without the negative side effects associated with yo-yoing.

Now maybe there are individuals who overlap both groups, but that's probably far more to do with being in the young progressive sphere than any overlap in the actual ideology.

Need Advice for dealing with baby momma trying to trans my stepson by halebop in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Munchausen by Internet

Great term

I don't know how to push back on this, especially in the current social climate.

Maybe try getting in ahead of it with non controversial teachings. Like, explicitly teach him that boys and girls can both like all toys and do all things. Maybe your husband can demonstrate that by playing dolls with him or baking with the kids or something and just teach him that anyone can play with and do whatever they like. If he comes over wearing a dress, point out that you're wearing pants, and not long ago women weren't allowed to wear them but now everyone can wear whatever they like isn't that great? Have a spare outfit of comfy clothes for him if he wants to change so he can play more comfortably. Teach him the difference between boys and girls, men and women, is physical. Boys have a penis, girls have a vagina. Teach him that only boys can be dads and only girls can be mums, but dads and moms can do all the same things (except dads can't be pregnant or breastfeed).

Hopefully if you get in early enough with enough clarity he won't be easily swept along. The push back will have to come from the kid himself in the current climate. You will just have to support him in being who he really is; a perfectly normal boy who likes and does all kinds of things.

Take photos of the dresses though, and record conversations with the kid and the mother. Hopefully you'll never need them as evidence and they can be just for him when he's older (and talking to a therapist about his mother's issues).

How the social role of being a wife makes women depressed by WhyDoesHeDoThat in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Of course it's crushing you. You're being expected to run THREE lives at once. Yours, your husband's, and your kids. You're only human. The only way the next generation will catch on is if THIS generation stop accepting shit men. Make him step up or kick him out. Start your kid doing their share of the housework, and teach them to expect that everyone they live with does a fair share of the housework. Men are shit housemates before they're shit husbands.

As a trans GC I hope I'm welcome here too by AfterLight in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you come here as a man who is uncomfortable with his body, then welcome. But I'm curious, in what non-misogynistic way can you 'aspire to be a woman'?

There's been great women throughout history we should all aspire to emulate, and women are stereotyped with some traits worth aspiring to, but that's not quite the same as aspiring to BE a woman.

Just a gay guy tired of being told what I'm allowed to believe. by anarchy753 in Introductions

[–]jelliknight 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daryl_Davis

This guy deconverts Nazis just by hanging out with them and chatting to them. His appearance on the Joe Rogan Experience is worth watching.

We don't have to be afraid of just talking to people if we know we're on the right side.

Really sad when a GNC woman goes trans by [deleted] in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You're allowed to tell her how you feel.

Kyle Rittenhouse's mother by ImPiqued1111111 in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Are people clamoring to hold his dad equally accountable?

There's your answer.

[Currently "FtM"] You guys are right by please_help in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I hated my hips. I felt they meant domesticity and childbearing, and I wanted to be an adventurer instead.

Guh, totally! How come all the cool women in movies have androgynous body shapes? You never see a badass or mechanic character with hips that would shame a Clydesdale

Unlikely Ally by SterlingRoark in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I believe last statistic I saw trans suicides were 40%

That statistic is not accurate. It's from a self reported online survey, and even then it exaggerated - the number of self reported 'attempts' gets passed around as the number of actual suicides. I believe the better studies put trans suicides at about the same rate as LGB and/or others with their commodities. People don't like to acknowledge this but many people who identify as trans have personality disorders or other mental health issues too, and those groups have an elevated suicide risk too. I can't be bothered finding an accurate study but just know that number looks unbelievable because you shouldn't believe it.

We would just prefer they stay off women’s sports teams, locker rooms, and stop taking away accomplishments from real women.

Exactly

Am I the only one who *kind of* believes in transsexualism as a valid thing? by gencritcurious in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What are the social aspects of gender? Please list some.

The problem with this line of thinking is that while you keep it amorphous is seems like it makes sense. That's because we're all raised in a sexist society so we all know deep down what is expected of women, even if we make a conscious effort to reject it. When you get explicit about exactly which social behaviors are of each gender, you end up simply listing sexist stereotypes.

So please, list some social aspects of gender that aren't just the same sexism in a new hat.

Teaching women to be afraid hurts women by squintypreyeyes in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree. If you have a gut instinct you should absolutely listen and value that (what the gift of fear is about). But not going out at night etc is a socially enforced behavior that is designed to keep women controlled. Statistically you're probably more in danger from men you already know.

Out of the loop, when did this all start? by [deleted] in GenderCritical

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It's basically a 'slippery slope' in action.

IF transwomen have the "gender" of women, but the wrong body, and the body can be corrected with surgery and hormones, then a post surgery transwoman is a woman. And if 'she' is a woman now, then she was always a woman. After all, it's what's on the inside that counts. And if she was always a woman then she always had a woman's body, even when it was male. And therefore every woman with a male body, even if they don't WANT surgery, is a woman, etc etc.

I feel like a lesbian outlaw by midnight305 in Introductions

[–]jelliknight 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Lesbian Outlaws would be a good band name :)

Some evidence that some men can have "women's" brain by Kai_Decadence in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There was a great online discussion of this but i know i'll never find it so i'll try to summarize from memory.

A) there is not much of a difference between mens and womens brains in structure or function. The few things that are genuinely different between the sexes (e.g. total brain size) are not different between men and TIMs.

B) There are small differences in brain function related to sexual orientation and as a lot of trans are also gay any study which doesn't control for this is worthless.

But more importantly:

C) If all brains are a mixed bag of characteristics, we would expect TIMs to have more 'feminine' brains and TIFs to have more 'masculine' brains. They've just got cause and effect backwards. You're comparing TIMs to "cis" women, not to women, so you're skewing your results before you even start. Assume that the brains of both sexes are equally on a simple spectrum from masculine to feminine. Then exclude the most "masculine" 10% of women (TIFs) and the most "feminine" 10% of men (TIMs) from the control groups. Now you're artificially created a difference in the average between the two sexes that didn't really exist, and when you compare the TIMs you'll find they of course have more in common with the women, while the TIFs have more in common with the males. That's the same criteria you used to pick the groups and subjects in the first place.

D) In order to argue that TIMs have lady brains you have to say "All women have X brain type, while all men are born with Y brain type. And when a man is born with X brain type it means - " record scratch you've undermined your starting assumptions. At best what these studies are doing is confirming that the brains of males and females both exist on a spectrum with at least some overlap between the sexes. Which...duh.

E) If it was possible to use a brain scan to tell someones identity it would be required before undergoing transition, and those without proof of "ladybrain" would be denied hormones and surgery. The same way if my cancer test comes back negative I don't get chemo anyway just on my say so. They can't have it both ways, it's either a physical condition or a spiritual belief.

F) Brains are plastic. If you take half of all kids and teach them engines and the other half baking, don't be surprised if you can pick up some small average difference between the groups. TIMs are typically forcing themselves into the same female stereotype role that is forced on all women and girls, so it's not weird if they share some small average difference in a particular trait.

And all of this is besides the point. I'm not saying a TIF can't genuinely feel girly inside his brain, I'm saying that doesn't matter one little bit to anything. He's still a man.

Really sad when a GNC woman goes trans by [deleted] in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I avoid female only spaces while everyone here thinks they are the answer to all women's problems. I don't fit.

When feminists exclude lazy, messy, chaotic, aggressive, loud, cynical, social inept women we can pretend women are all super organised, hard working, socially astute, responsible saints

There are better women only spaces to be in. They're worth finding.

London bus attack couple join campaign to make misogyny a hate crime: increase in violence against women during lockdown makes new law imperative, says MP Stella Creasy by anonymale in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sex should absolutely be added to the hate crimes legislation. The only reason is wasn't is because so many crimes would become hate crimes. Rape and domestic violence for example. Any crime directed against a random woman because she is female is a hate crime.

What are some good and valuable sources to determine that there are only two genders? by XacidD2708 in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You don't need sources, dear.

How are babies made? A sperm meets an ovum. There is no third category, no "Spovum". It's absolutely binary.

Where do sperm and ovum come from? From testes and ovaries, respectively. No ovary can produce a sperm, no teste can produce an ovum. Never ever ever ever. It's absolutely binary.

No human has both functional testes and functional ovaries. No human has ever produced both sperm and ovum. No human has ever switched from one to the other. It's binary.

The act of producing new people is super, super important. All other human achievement depends on it. So the two, absolutely distinct groups - sperm producers and egg producers - are really important categories. The former are called 'men', the latter are called 'women', and the two groups have distinct body shapes, genetics, physiology and hormones.

There are also some people who produce neither sperm nor ovum, but they usually HAVE either testes or ovaries along with the standard body plan for that sex, so it's really really obvious which group they belong to.

Up until this point it's all basic 'birds and bees' facts. You don't need a scientific source to tell you, and anyone who acts like you do is being willfully stupid.

There are a handful of people who have a condition that results in having neither testes nor ovaries (complete gonadal dysgenesis) and you could truly say they're neither sex but they have the same overall body plan as women so we group them with women.

There are an even rarer group of people who belong to one sex but appear to belong to the other (complete androgen insensitivity syndrome). This is the group for whom the term "assigned female at birth" was intended for. With a very simple investigation doctors can tell that they are in fact male. Although they externally appear female they have testes and the interior body plan of a male. We may treat them as if they were female but we're 100% clear that they are actually not.

Sex is absolutely binary. It's the two categories involved in making a new person. Gender is the set of rules, expectations, and imitations we put on the sexes. Gender is arbitrary and changes over time and across cultures. Gender identity is a spiritual belief that a person can be born with a 'girly soul' or a 'manly soul' and when they are born with the 'wrong' one they can tell and they often 'need' surgery and hormones to make their body 'match' their soul.

"Vanilla shame" - yet another byproduct of liberal feminism? by vitunrotta in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Reminds me of a Terry Pratchett quote:

“He'd noticed that sex bore some resemblance to cookery: it fascinated people, they sometimes bought books full of complicated recipes and interesting pictures, and sometimes when they were really hungry they created vast banquets in their imagination - but at the end of the day they'd settle quite happily for egg and chips. If it was well done and maybe had a slice of tomato.”

My TIM "friend" claimed I was mansplaining to "her", so I'm done being friends by TurtleFuzz in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think he absolutely knew. It was bait. He wanted you to point it out so he could wail TRAAAAANNNSPPHHHOOOOOOBIC and cry to everyone about you. He's probably telling that that anyway if you're not in the group any more.

See if you'd stayed in the friend group he'd have you over a barrel. He'll go around telling everyone you called him a man until you either snap and say "he IS a man" or fall over yourself "validating" him in order to prove that you wouldn't do such a thing. Narcissists are good at that shit. You did the smart thing by cutting him out.

TIF whining because gay men behave like gay men by weirdthorn in GenderCritical

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This is one of the biggest problems with 'transition'. It promises you that you'll feel more like yourself but encourages you to live a lie, so you feel MORE out of place, not right, not welcome etc. The solution? More hormones and surgery, obviously.

Removal of gendered language in birthing communities ... please help me make sense of this bizarro world by lunarenergy8 in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No one gatekeeps womanhood. Reality doesn't need keepers. Every single adult who gives birth is a woman, and every single adult who impregnates them is a man.

There's some censorship going on in the newly popular feminist subs and it needs to be openly addressed. by [deleted] in SaidIt

[–]jelliknight 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And as a GC reddit refugee, I support this. We will likely end up having two groups, a censored and a non-censored free-for-all group. I think the mods are just finding their way right now.

Thanks for having us here.

A few words from a moid... by moid_scrote in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Best part of your post is the term "scrotes" lol, thanks for that, I've never heard it before.

TBH this sort of post is exactly the reason men were discouraged from posting on the GC subreddit. You may not mean it, but it comes off pretty condescending and since women have to deal with a constant background level of that, it's nice to have a place away from it. Thats why we sent the 'scrotes' to GC Guys when possible.

I do agree with the overall point of your post but I'll outline exactly where it sounds condescending just so you can see: "you will need men to beat this.. if you think you don't, then you are simply wilfully blind". Ah hah. So we got this far without you but you'll pat us on the head and take it from here? No thanks. Had enough of that. We're not "willfully blind" because we're not interested in letting you stand on our shoulders to bignote yourself. If you care about the topic, speak out on the topic. No one's stopping you. "you ladies actually organised yourselves" gosh, incredible isn't it? Ladies? ORGANIZING? A world gone topsy turvy. "Lets put our differences aside and work together" We really ain't here to be told what to do by blokes. "if even just this once to safeguard our children and their immediate future." women are actually working for WOMEN here, not for "the children". I know it's weird, women aren't supposed to care about themselves but we do care about ourselves, our rights, and our lives. Many GC women are lesbians or childfree. We do care about what's happening to kids as well, but radical feminists primary concern is always for women and girls.

Can we have GenderCritical on a female-owned and female-run site? by TwinkleTitsGalore in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Suggest Radfemit for the name :)

Can someone tell me if this is true that they are making real penises and vaginas using tissues? by [deleted] in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 6 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

A watermelon with a penis-sized hole might as well be called a vagina!

It would 'produce its own fluid' too, since they don't seem to care exactly what kind of fluid.

A person I loved dearly recently came out as trans and I don't know what to say to him. by saragini in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Your feelings of frustration, disappointment and disgust are not only valid, they seem absolutely reasonable and proportionate.

He's your mother's ex husband? Sounds like she feels obligated to keep him around and act as a support to him. Are you obligated to maintain contact with him?

The guy is a more than a little unstable (sane adults know not to joke about kidnapping children) and has more than a few fetishes that he likes to involve other people in, unwillingly. If you feel unsafe around him at any point, you should trust that feeling. However, if you feel ok, that may be genuine too. Your gut is pretty reliable, listen to it and not to what others think you should do. But even if you feel safe around him now, if you ever do feel fear act immediately. Don't hesitate or second guess it. Get yourself to safety, even if you have to break a window, run to a police station, and cause a scene. Your safety is more important.

It's wrong that he took your sister's name. It's a violation and (gross) it's part of his fetish. He wants to be a baby, and a girl, and he named himself after a girl he's known since she was a baby - that is not a coincidence. It's wrong that he's trying to rub it in your faces.

You're allowed to not spend time with people who make you uncomfortable. Not everyone is worth your time. However, it sounds like he probably comes around a lot and isn't someone you can easily avoid. Can you tell your mum that's he's making you uncomfortable and that you'd like to limit the amount of time you two have to spend in the same room? Maybe she can give you a head up when he's coming over and you can just happen to be at a friend's place? If not, I suggest:

  • Give your sister a rad nickname like "Ace" or "Bandit" and call her that so he can't rub it in your faces that he's taken her name.

  • Don't talk about "girly" stuff in front of him, and if he brings it up say "Eh, I'm not really interested in that."

  • Point out when he's being overtly sexist (if you feel safe to disagree with him). It's ok. It's good practice for later in life. Eg. "real girls have to watch their weight" "I don't know, that just sounds like 50s sexism to me. Young women need to fuel their bodies too." or just "sounds a bit sexist."

Right now he's getting a "fix" from being "girly" with you. Cut off that supply.

In reality women and girls do everything that men do. We eat, we wear boxers, we get dirty, we play sport and we fart. Don't let him make you feel wrong for being a full person and not a cartoon.

Look up the Grey Rock method. This guy is deliberately making you uncomfortable in a situation he knows you are stuck in, because he likes to watch your discomfort and make you do what he wants. You're his little puppet. Whether you go along with it, ignore it, confront it, or get uncomfortable and try to avoid it, he will enjoy that he made you have that reaction. So be the grey rock. The grey rock has no strong opinions about anything. It doesn't react. It can't be teased or provoked. It's totally uninteresting. If you go the Grey Rock method, everything he says can be responded to with a half shrug and "Eh. Ok." It'll be written off as you being a moody teen but when the game gets boring enough he'll stop playing.

BTW "medical tests have shown that he is 80% female" is once of the most ridiculous things I've ever read. Brittle bones doesn't make you a woman either.

Good luck, it's going to be tricky to navigate but hopefully you'll be grown and out of home soon and you can decide who you spend your time around.

Advice wanted: navigating pronouns by teacherterf in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

In reality though, if the student was this self confident they probably wouldn't be basing their identity on gender.

The incoherency in trans ideology is killing me by loches in GenderCritical

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You know those illusions like where the elephant has 5 legs? Trans ideology is like that. If you look at any small bit, it's fine. If someone says "I need hormonal treatment because dysphoria is a medical condition", ok, that makes a sort of sense. If they say "you shouldn't try to change people opinions about being transgender, it's who we are, like being gay." that also makes sense. If you try to look at them both at the same time it becomes obvious that the whole thing is wrong.

Are we conditioned to ignore sexism? by PeakingPeachEater in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Is there something we can DO to fight back on this?

Be a pushy bitch. Say "I just said that", and "Thanks for repeating my idea for me". Be willing to cut people off if thats what they're doing to you, then just keep talking LOUDER AND MORE FIRMLY WHILE MAKING DIRECT EYE CONTACT until they yield and then talk normally again. Talk more often, don't wait and see if someone else wants to. If you're thinking something and there's a gap, throw it in. Doesn't matter if it's good or not.

You'd think it gets you treated badly but IME it gets you treated with respect. They might call you names behind your back, though.

Who cares if you're over reacting? Being assertive pays off regardless. If you are overcompensating then you end up being a leader. It seems like you're doing all the work anyway, fuck em, might as well grab the reigns.

In the hidden figures movie I got annoyed because they show Katherine as a shrinking violet waiting for the white man to save her. She gets shut out of a meeting and sulks in the hallway until he calls her in. In reality, to hear her tell it, she shoved her way through the door, picked up someone elses books and moved them out of the way and took a seat. They said "You can't be in here" and she said "It's my work. I'm staying." they said said "X was sitting there" she said "Well, I'm sitting here now." Boom. If you want to get ahead you're going to have to be a boss ass bitch.

Kyle Rittenhouse's mother by ImPiqued1111111 in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well if we're judging people based on their prior actions, being a racist showing up to oppose a protest with a loaded gun you aren't legally allowed to carry is pretty fucking damning. Far more than any crime committed months or longer before the incident.

This is on the front page of r/politics. by Orangutan in politics

[–]jelliknight 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Birth control and IUDs have long term health consequences for women. Condoms break, family planning can fail. No contraceptive method is 100% effective. Women absolutely DO fucking care about the right to control our own bodies.

Connection between HAES/Fat Acceptance and supporting men in women's sport? by eddyelric in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly. And being fat, going to the gym and eating healthy foods is even better than being slim and treating your body like garbage. Skinnyfat is a thing. Bodies are for getting around in. Treat it well and live in it.

Am I the only one who *kind of* believes in transsexualism as a valid thing? by gencritcurious in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Oooh good one. Everyone who thinks they're "transgender" is actual just "transtemporal". TIFs are from a future where women are equal and TIMs are from the past when the definition of masculinity was much broader due the femininity being so narrow. They need to update the date on their birth certificate not the sex.

Covid is still a hoax, people. by mongre in conspiracy

[–]jelliknight 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

4x worse than normal in number of deaths in the USA so far, and we're only halfway through the year, and it's accelerating.

So 'quite a bit' worse than normal.

I don't understand the "invalidate trans people" thing. by fardareismai in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Haha, perhaps they're unintentionally using the first meaning of the word?

"I'm a woman!"

"No you're not, you have testicles and a Y chromosome."

"You're invalidating (proving incorrect) my identity!!"

[Discussion] How do trans women feel like women? by deity in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree, that's what they mean. It's their best argument, but it's still stupid.

Feeling a preference for or natural affinity with the opposite sex's stereotypes, roles, and expectations isn't the same as feeling like the opposite sex. It also doesn't have anything to do with altering physically characteristics or entering opposite sex spaces. It's just a totally normal and expected outcome of a society that arbitrarily defines half of all human experiences as feminine and the other half as masculine.

Argument with boyfriend last night about Reddit's censorship of women, and he called me a transphobe by sosorreal in GenderCritical

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"Boy, BYE"

Don't stay with a misogynist who insults you. You deserve more

Don't be sad. by zephyranthes in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Outsiders were already being told that we were a HATE SUB everywhere. Weirdly, it often worked in our favor. It's the streisand effect, you tell people not to look at something and that's all they wanna do. People came over to get worked up at the BIGOTED TRANS HATERS ACTUALLY MURDERING TRANS PEOPLE WITH THEIR HATEFUL WORDS and found out that we are actually reasonable, and on this topic just plainly correct. There were many who peaked that way. So this might work even better. We're now the FEMINAZI HATE GROUP that was so EVIL even reddit had to ban us, and now we've got an offsite forum, a lot of people are going to be interested in seeing what we're about. I'd guess more than a few will find us while looking into the bans.

An Apology by BlackFemMagic in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Courage calls to courage everywhere

From personal experience: do NOT allow men to rob your space (in real life or online) by vitunrotta in GenderCritical

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"Karen" is a misogynistic slur. Like all slurs, it has no real definition. A "Karen" is any woman not doing what I want her to be doing. Asking for a manager makes you a Karen. Sending food back makes you a Karen. Anything other than total compliance makes you a Karen. They always start with the worst examples and then gradually broaden the definition until it's every woman.

[Vent] Vent about myself by iloveyou in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

because I hate when my family comments on my hair and I want to be pretty.

Do you want to be pretty or do you want to be accepted? Those are different things.

It sounds like you're struggling under the weight of a lot of spoken and unspoken sexist expectations.

Repeat this mantra: "My body did not come with terms and conditions."

There is no "wrong" way to be a woman. Everything you do is exactly what a woman does and should do. You make it so by doing it.

I do think you need some rad women as inspiration. I know a 70+ year old 5ft0 woman who has short hair and still rides motorcycles around the nation, solo. She's not a 'butch dyke'. She is a widow. She just doesn't give a fuck.

Being a cool and self confident woman takes practice, so start early ;) Yes, a lot of people will be crappy to you, nothing you can do about that, but it's worth it to be happy with yourself.

Johanna Olson-Kennedy and the 8 year old girl who was put on testosterone by worried19 in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What you might be unaware of is that giving 8 year olds puberty blockers is now standard practice. They will then be given testosterone in their early teens. It's disgusting and criminal.

Most people are sane by [deleted] in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yep. I'll change mine every 12 months just to show how fucking stupid it is.

r/periods got brigaded today. how long till they go the way of r/pcos? by spicyramen in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's ok. Post the Ovarit Link :) More recruits!!

I peaked after dating a trans girl and need advice on how to leave by lunemoonjune in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah i should be clearer about that. If OP wants him as a friend thats up to her (I wouldn't, he seems toxic as fuck) but even if she does she really needs at least a few months of no contact after the break up.

Am I the only one who *kind of* believes in transsexualism as a valid thing? by gencritcurious in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you have depression, is the progressive, science-based treatment the one in which you’re allowed to take your own life at will

This is already a thing in 'progressive' countries. A dutch 17 year old was given euthanasia for depression. People trying to hard to be "woke" they forgot how to be good.

How the social role of being a wife makes women depressed by WhyDoesHeDoThat in GenderCritical

[–]jelliknight 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yep. Mine has always tried but he used to drop the ball constantly and didn't understand how important it was to me to not be left with the slack because he felt he wouldn't mind in the reverse situation. However, he has turned it around he he puts in a genuinely equal share of the work these days, does extra if I ask etc. It feels like bragging or undermining the OP however i think it's important to say. As a comment above said, young women are being convinced that these shit, useless men are all that's out there. They aren't. There are better men. If he won't change get rid of the dead weight and find a real partner, or go it alone.