Britney Spears is the Greatest, Most Moving Artist Who Ever Lived. Discuss. by indianusjones in funny

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I wish I could “fun” this a thousand times. For a moment I thought “...” then suddenly the image of that teary-eyed guy(?) in the bedsheets flashed across my mind. LOL!!

April 19, 2019 Topic- Is Illegal Immigration a Financial Drain on the US Economy? by SecretlyHistoric in PoliticalDebate

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When we hear, "makes the economy grow," we should ask ourselves, "makes the economy grow for whom?"

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I grant you that this article is from The Hill, but the journalist seems fairly even-handed about Biden's involvement with the Ukrain.

Edit: my initial opinion is that his son's purpose on the board seems legit but I definitely want to know why he got paid so much.

Edit II: The way this meme is framed is inflammatory. It's like saying, "did you know Chevy sucks? Ha ha, actually that's Ford." What the hell? One has nothing to do with the other.

I'm sick of lazy meme posts that don't provide sources for their position. by indianusjones in VigtesSickofThisShit

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I think this is an excellent idea because it gives the reader to check the poster's facts supporting their position.

I'm sick of lazy meme posts that don't provide sources for their position. by indianusjones in VigtesSickofThisShit

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Not intentional, sorry.

I'm sick of lazy meme posts that don't provide sources for their position. by indianusjones in VigtesSickofThisShit

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Sounds good to me.

I'm sick of lazy meme posts that don't provide sources for their position. by indianusjones in VigtesSickofThisShit

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Fox and CNN don't count, my brother!

I'm sick of lazy meme posts that don't provide sources for their position. by indianusjones in VigtesSickofThisShit

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Well, I sort of understand the first one, after reading some of the salt on Reddit about the plan to place the migrants in the Sanctuary Cities - a lot of redditors were quite upset and said "why don't they go to red districts" etc.

Do you happen to have a link or was that discussion kind of, "all over?"

Second one strikes me as intentional shit-stirring

Of course.

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While I see a potential conflict of interest, correlation is not necessarily causation.

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OK, build the Great Wall of Privilege along the southern border, but obviously that won't solve your H1B visa problem. It's a separate issue entirely.

What do you want from me? I'm telling you the facts. You say, "level up to avoid immigrants." I say, "immigrants are at the top too." The sources are different but the problem and effects are the same.

Sort of. See, I'm under so much pressure to work (knowing that a cheaper H1B will happily take my place) that I simply can't take days off for doctor visits for fear of losing my job. "Rosaritta" has all day.

Honestly this is just sad.

Look, immigrants cause competition, spread disease, depress wages, and consume valuable resources. These are facts.

The response I get is, "oh, they just look different than you, you sad racist." Responses like this that don't address the legitimate facts are part of the problem.

I don't think you understand resource allocation and logistics. I don't think you understand zero-sum economics.

You must address the unfair resource allocation and disease issues before we can continue this conversation and certainly before you, in the face of cold, hard, facts imply that I am racist.

Addendum:

I have ZERO reason to believe there is not an unemployed, undeserving, non-immunized legal citizen, and neither do you

We're not talking about US citizens. I brought up H1B's (openly invited or not) only because "leveling up" was offered as a way to supposedly not be affected by immigration. Unemployed US citizens could be pink, lolipop-sucking unicorns with weird sexual kinks but it's irrelevant for this discussion.

While we're at it, let's get down to brass tacks. The US is a sovereign nation just like Mexico, just like Canada; all have the right to create and enact their laws. Illegal immigration is illegal, period.

So we get this, "oh, so you want to make a great wall of privilege." You're welcome to your opinion and may even have valid points. That's fine.

What you may not do is violate our sovereignty or our laws. If you'd like some law-breaking and some sovereignty violations the US will simply invade Mexico. How would that be?

I realize that the above paragraph is way over the top. I feel strongly that everyone benefits by being good neighbors. The point I'm making is that there are quantifiably good reasons for opposing immigration and in the final analysis the immigration laws are there for good reason.

OK, build the Great Wall of Privilege along the southern border

Now that I'm thinking about it, let's roughly equate illegal immigrants to invaders (bad analogy, I know) and take the position that we should have open borders. If you don't agree it's like saying, "Germany should be permitted to invade France's "Great Wall of Privilege (Maginot Line)." If you disagree you really are just mostly concerned that germans look differently than you do and you're a sad racist."

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That's a different issue from border security, sanctuary cities.

I'm referencing the idea that immigration forces people to "skill up." So you go to college, graduate, and get whacked on the high end from H1B's.

Americans cannot compete with H1B's (and remote workers) because we have housing, tax, and statutory obligations immigrants do not have; Americans' cost of living is higher and thus cannot compete on price.

This seems to contradict your point that they were getting golden treatment.

Sort of. See, I'm under so much pressure to work (knowing that a cheaper H1B will happily take my place) that I simply can't take days off for doctor visits for fear of losing my job.

"Rosaritta" has all day.

So effectively, they are not getting golden treatment but they are getting some treatment and it is putting a heavy strain on the system. By zero-sum every resource that is put into an illegal alien is also a resource that a tax-paying, working citizen is not receiving to the tune of billions each year and "wasted" effort.

I used to work at a hospital. I saw tattood Mexicans in chains escorted by police going down the hall and thinking, "what the fuck." Notice there's a lot going on here:

  • The police who have to be called off
  • The staff who have to process the "patient"
  • The people in proximity who are in jeopardy if the illegal has an infectious disease
  • The doctors having to take time out of their busy schedule, causing suffering of others
  • The court system's resources to prosecute
  • The prison system to incarcerate
  • Resources for care for the victim if this is a violent crime
  • The deportation system to deport

All this for a single scumbag that shouldn't be here in the first place. Multiply this by 10's of thousands and now lump on all the dependents.

I mean, "honestly."

Finally, because they and their kids aren't getting immunized they're spreading disease. That's awesome.

But hey, I save a few thousand on my house and a few bucks for my groceries so it's worth it, right?

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Source?

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force able bodied people to "get skills"

In my case I'm IT (enterprise UNIX/Linux grade) and got clobbered after 25 years by a different kind of immigrant: 100,000 H1B Visas p/yr.

I'd be interested in seeing a study that shows this to be true, because ultiamtely this is anecdotal.

True. Here you go.

The trolley problem by Snow in AskSaidIt

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It'll make the autopsy easier.

The trolley problem by Snow in AskSaidIt

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I know, Harvard can be abrasive sometimes but he's really fine once you get to know him!

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People's opinions can change

My gallup poll link shows that yes, attitudes have changed but is a) not a sea change (sentiment has been this way since the 1880's) and the poll b) does not break the results down by race, that is, the poll does not account for the rising US Latino population.

Addendum: By the way, I take politians' stance on immigration with a grain of salt. If history is any guide, these politicians will condemn illegal immigration faster than you can say, "voter discontent."

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, 2008: “We do need to address the issue of immigration and the challenge we have of undocumented people in our country. We certainly do not want any more coming in.” Source.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, 2009: The latest House bill leaves in place nearly all the loopholes of the previous bill, H.R. 3200. Illegal immigrants will be able to gain health care at taxpayer expense through these loopholes (and we aren’t talking emergency care, which remains untouched and available, and isn’t even an issue). We’re talking health coverage, paid wholly or substantially by U.S. taxpayers. Source.

I grant you the two are not completely in-line but it's like saying, "we should do everything to keep robbers out of our house but since they're here we should serve them dinner on our neighbor's dime."

The point is that while the economy's bad these guys are all about anti-immigration. When the economy is good they're all about open borders. Meanwhile, you, me, and your kids get screwed no matter what the economy (increased competition, poorer education facilities, larger classrooms, strain on healthcare system, etc.).

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Now you're talking. Excellent, and I mean that sincerely!

I have, as I happily admit zero evidence that liberals have pulled an about-face on immigration given this proposal. On this basis the meme is totally baseless and without merit.

I consistently contend, however, that liberals (many positions with which I agree) have not thought the issue through.

Forgive my crassness, but my guess is that many of them are young and haven't paid taxes for 25 years only to find their district's education decline precipitously.

Look, when I go to the doctor's and I see people who I know damn well are illegal aliens getting better health care than I do I get pretty upset.

P.S. "septuagenarian pop singer Cher" <-- that's hilarious.

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In the case of a claim with no source you're absolutely correct. We've since provided sources. Your turn.

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I like to stay on the topic at hand recognizing recent events, yes.

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The meme depicts a very recent phenomena, i.e. immigrant transfer to immigration cities.

To be clear, we should poll those for more immigration not directly on the question, but on whether or not they approve of the known fallout.

Specifically I mean higher crime, homeless rates, larger classroom sizes, etc.

Teen girls stage school walkout to protest boys in their bathroom who claim to be ‘girls’ by useless_aether in Education

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You, sir, are among the Spartans for your courage and dedication.