Is anyone else absolutely dreading Pride Month already? by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

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Same. Last time I went it was full of BDSM freaks and autistic kids getting transed by their parents. I haven’t gone since.

Was anyone else here a supporter of trans rights, until they went too far and started demanding unquestioning compliance from every corner of society? by ukrdude10 in LGBDropTheT

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Yup. Reaching a breaking point with trans ideology where you suddenly realize how damaging and coercive it is, is actually a commonly experienced phenomenon called "peaking."

A couple of years ago a mother “violently misgendered” me in order to not let her daughter think for one second that lesbians exist and by now she would be hailed as progressive. A sort of long rant from a butch lesbian. by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

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The way I see it is this: there’s a high risk you’ll lose things whether you support LGB Alliance, or whether you’re gender critical within the LGBT. Both are “cancelable” offenses.

But the LGB Alliance and similar movements have the potential to reclaim same-sex attracted rights, whereas the LGBT does not in my eyes — it is poisoned by transing to such an extent that there’s no saving it. Transing and gay rights cannot co-exist.

So if I’m gonna get canceled either way, I might as well do it for the cause that I think could potentially make things better, you know?

Anyway, that’s my thinking on it. But it’s fucking horrible that we’re being made to make these choices. It shouldn’t be controversial for you to exercise your sexual consent, or to just have a sexual orientation at all.

Never be ashamed of who you are. Your body does not exist as a means to an ends for men.

We’re in this together, in this terrible era of history, for whatever cold comfort that may be.

A couple of years ago a mother “violently misgendered” me in order to not let her daughter think for one second that lesbians exist and by now she would be hailed as progressive. A sort of long rant from a butch lesbian. by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

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I’m really sorry that happened to you. And you’re right to observe the tight connection between transing butches and homophobia. Transing is actually used as conversion therapy in Iran, and other highly homophobic places. But it’s snuck into our society inside the Trojan horse of “gender diversity”...

I think being openly GC in LGBT spaces right now is a very brave thing, and if you’ve got the spine for it, more fucking power to you.

But I also think the LGBT has no future. As long as we continue to let gender ideology into gay spaces, the homophobia and conversion therapy will continue. I think the only way forward for us is to eject genderism completely and move forward solely as people who are same-sex attracted. I’m throwing my time and effort behind the LGB Alliance, personally.

ACLU's transgender lawyer, Chase Strangio, "So much violence against trans people would be eradicated if people could just accept and celebrate their sexual attraction to trans people. Your obsession is so often born of your feared desire." by BEB in LGBDropTheT

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That is one of the most deluded and creepy thing I’ve ever read... today. The trans cult seems to outdo themselves on the regular.

What is the general political orientation of people on LGB-T? by ukrdude10 in LGBDropTheT

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Libertarian left is probably the closest thing.

OMG - Katy Montgomerie, TiM extraordinaire - lurks on Ovarit! What about us, Katy, are we not TERF enough for you?!?!? by BEB in GenderCritical

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When are men going to get it into their heads that it’s not our fucking problem what they do to each other?

I think it is abnormal to be trans. by The_Quantum_Alpha in SuperStraight

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For the most part, yes. I suspect that AGP’s would probably have developed some sort of pathology no matter what, which is why they’re also the most dangerous and unhinged in the trans movement. Maybe it wouldn’t have been this EXACT pathology, but that underlying narcissistic trait is very strong in them, and is often inborn.

I think it is abnormal to be trans. by The_Quantum_Alpha in SuperStraight

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The exact cause varies.

AGP men have a severe pathological paraphilia combined with narcissism. Most have no normal sexual orientation, just their disordered obsession, like other severe paraphiliacs.

HSTS is usually a combination of childhood deprivation and growing up with internalized homophobia.

Most TIF’s are dealing with either severe homophobia if they’re lesbians, or have abuse histories (often CSA).

I think it is abnormal to be trans. by The_Quantum_Alpha in SuperStraight

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Of course it isn’t. Nothing that compels you to amputate bits of your body and have a total mental breakdown at the sight of yourself is “normal.”

Prominent secularist & scientist, Richard Dawkins, seems to be starting to wake up about gender ideology by BEB in GenderCritical

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Eh, probably. Like I said, he’s an idiot when it comes to social issues.

Prominent secularist & scientist, Richard Dawkins, seems to be starting to wake up about gender ideology by BEB in GenderCritical

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Yeah, he’s always been a bit of a misogynist, so that’s probably why it appeals to him.

However qualified he may be as a scientist, Dawkins has always been an insufferable idiot and outrage peddler when it comes to social issues and philosophy. I’ve always been embarrassed to share atheism with the likes of him, and likewise I’m embarrassed to share GC views with the likes of him.

We need better spokespeople. I wish Dawkins would just stay in his lane.

Taking hormones made transman incapable of vaginal sex. Just another day in Clown World. by [deleted] in SuperStraight

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This shit just makes me so sad. They take these perfectly healthy people, and just break their bodies until they can’t function anymore. Just drugs and top of drugs, trying to combat the crippling side effects of the previous drugs, and then surgery after surgery, taking away and then trying to pathetically reconstruct all the basic human functionality they’ve lost.

It’s like some kind of grotesque nightmare, just throwing these kids into meat grinders.

Women complain they feel invalidated on Grindr by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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How did we wind up with an entire generation of little narcissists who honest-to-god believe that all other humans on earth are just NPC’s that exist for no reason but to constantly validate them?

These people are certifiable. Holy fuck.

Can a bisexual woman please explain this to us so we get it? by exponent2 in LGBDropTheT

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Dude, I’m getting some weird fetish vibes out of your post. I dunno what you’re spankin’ to on this question, but I’m out. Yikes. 😂

Do LGBTQ organisations represent interests of lesbians, gays and bisexuals? by Happy_Blueberry3910 in LGBDropTheT

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Yes. LGB Alliance does, and they have different chapters in many countries (I know of UK, USA, India, and Canada, but there may be more). There is also LGB Fight Back in the USA.

Do LGBTQ organisations represent interests of lesbians, gays and bisexuals? by Happy_Blueberry3910 in LGBDropTheT

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No, not remotely. It’s all T and gender ideology, even if it means promoting conversion therapy from inside the LGBTQ.

Can a bisexual woman please explain this to us so we get it? by exponent2 in LGBDropTheT

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Can I just say I think it’s really interesting that you group “feminine” in the same category as “weak” and “less than”?

It’s also really interesting how you think bimbo porn is totally understandable, but a soft male romance being sexy is super weird and impossible to comprehend.

It’s really not complicated. I’m not even into it, but the appeal is obvious. Two of something you like is better than one. Maybe they also like, you know, an actual storyline and romance to go with it. Seems pretty simple.

Maybe the gap is your own internalized homophobia and misogyny 🤷‍♀️

I am really confused about all this and i have some questions. Would be awesom if you would answer some of them. by Pheicker in SuperStraight

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The definition of “woman” is “adult female person,” according to Merriam Webster.

Are transwomen adult female people?

I am really confused about all this and i have some questions. Would be awesom if you would answer some of them. by Pheicker in SuperStraight

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Thank you for listening. Also dunno if you saw it when you read, but I edited to add in a link with receipts to public promotion of coercing people into sex, and shaming their sexualities.

I am really confused about all this and i have some questions. Would be awesom if you would answer some of them. by Pheicker in SuperStraight

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  1. Because we’ve been experiencing repeated consent violations and social coercion from trans people for years. We’ve tried just saying no, they don’t listen.

  2. Yes. https://oursuperstories.com/wall-of-coercion/

  3. Your mistake here is assuming there’s an “LGBTQ” community. There isn’t. There’s LGB, and TQ. They are not on the same side. Trans people have been shame-raping LGB people for years. They literally promote overt conversion therapy of lesbians. And a lot of us are on the side of the Superstraights because we’re done with it (you may see us named as superLGB, or LGBS). TQ are just straight people who believe in a religion that says their soul has a gender. They have nothing to do with us, they’re just a tag-along who leeches off our labor.

  4. I don’t care honestly. I’m tired of these people policing me. You may have gathered from my answer to #3 that I’m LGB. I’ve been fighting this battle for years. They can take their language police and shove it up their ass.

  5. No. I just wanna be left the fuck alone. I don’t even know what transphobia is supposed to be anymore, since basically everything is “transphobic” now, including being born with a sexual orientation.

A close friend of mine has decided she's non-binary now and I don't know how to react by sunzzy in LGBDropTheT

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How would she even know what you call her? That’s what’s s cult-y about this whole gender ideology, they try to compel your thoughts and actions even when they’re not there.

If it were me, and she asked that, I would try to explain to her that, essentially, she is asking me to re-frame my understanding of reality, to align with her belief system. Would that be ok if she were religious, to try to force me into her faith by compelling my thoughts and actions in my daily life?

But then, I’m willing to lose friends over this shit at this point. This is hurting people and mutilating children. I try to be nice, but I’m done being complicit.

Man-who-might-actually-be-a-penguin MSNBC's Chris Hayes gets schooled after he tweets, ""Catastrophic:" GOP pushes at least 78 anti-trans measures in 25 states." by BEB in GenderCritical

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God I hope so. It’s been truly incredible how many of us they’ve been able to silence for all this time, but people are waking up now. I think a lot of people were absolutely stunned to see all the violent insanity TRA’s stooped to during the superstraight thing and we’ve just had a big wave of peaking.

Article - Student sex workers 'must be supported by university staff' (What the F?!?!?) by BEB in GenderCritical

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Or they could just undo the draconian fees that are pushing girls into sex work to begin with.

Nah, that would be too logical and humane. The board need their martinis, you know.

Definitions of "sex" by Happy_Blueberry3910 in SuperStraight

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Yes, exactly. TRA’s like to portray them like the freaks at the circus, some “other human” subtype. They dragged them kicking and screaming into this mess as nothing but cannon fodder.

In reality, most people with DSD’s have typical chromosome pairings, and they usually even have typical physical presentation at birth. The most common DSD’s have to do with genetic hormonal processing errors, and appear at puberty.

But even among those who may have atypical presentation, nearly all still have an obvious sex. In fact, DSD’s are usually diagnosed based on your sex. Nothing at all to do with this “sexless hermaphrodite circus people” shit the TRA’s are forcing on them.

Also: trans people stole “assigned at birth” from people with DSD’s. Specifically, this is what doctors called it when they genitally mutilated them as babies due to atypical genital appearance — they were basically given SRS, with all the complications that implies. As you might expect, this is extremely traumatizing for the people who’ve lived through it.

And trans activists have the narcissistic audacity to take that traumatizing phrase, and apply it to a nurse literally just observing the obvious, as if that is somehow a sin on par with cutting the clitoris off an infant. It’s appalling.

Definitions of "sex" by Happy_Blueberry3910 in SuperStraight

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TRA = trans rights activists

DSD = Disorder of Sex Development, or what TRA’s call “intersex.” I refuse to use that term, because most people with DSD’s consider it disrespectful. TRA’s pulled it out of some old German manual from 100 years ago and started using it as a prettier way of saying “hermaphrodite” in order to portray people with DSD’s as being a “third sex” to promote their political aims. In reality, that is not accurate at all, and using “intersex” promotes ignorance about their medical conditions. So, out of respect for people with DSD’s, I don’t use it.

Definitions of "sex" by Happy_Blueberry3910 in SuperStraight

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  • Welp, that’s just reality denial. Where’d it come from if it doesn’t exist? Like I said, nothing you can do if someone is just gonna say the sky is purple.
  • The response to that is that sex isn’t an “outcome.” It’s just a fact. It’s there whether anyone says it or not. It doesn’t cause anything, it is a state of being.
  • Fuck trans people. They don’t have a right not to be offended.

Definitions of "sex" by Happy_Blueberry3910 in SuperStraight

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Firstly, you should know: there is no bulletproof argument when your opponent’s main strategy is firing bullets into their own head. It doesn’t matter how rock-solid it is, they will find ways to either pretend it doesn’t exist, or twist it into a completely different shape so they can deny it.

Sex, in biology, is simply identifying dimorphic versions of a given species, where one version of the species produces spermatoza gametes and the other produces ova gametes.

TRA’s have various ways of trying to confuse the issue. They use people with DSD’s as human shields to say sex doesn’t exist, which is idiotic. That’s like saying that because some people are born missing part or all of their legs, that means humans aren’t bipedal. Disorders and genetic errors do not change the intended functionality of the organism.

They may also point to things like clownfish, who are in the less than 10% of species that do not have stable dimorphism. And the answer to that is simply: we’re not fish.

Some will claim sex is colonialism or something. And the response to that is have a stiff drink, in my opinion.

Food for thought: Schizophrenia is more common than intersex births, yet sex is not real and self-report studies are 100% reliable by [deleted] in SuperStraight

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Also note: the way they use “intersex” people is based on bigotry and ignorance. Even the name they’ve given them betrays that bigotry.

Most people with disorders of sex development have a clear chromosomal sex, and a clear physical presentation at birth. The most common type of DSD actually isn’t evident at birth at all.

Trans people believe people with DSD’s are “hermaphrodites,” which is a slur that’s been used to justify things like mutilating babies. That’s where they stole the term “assigned at birth” from. This was how people with DSD’s described the forced SRS they underwent as infants without consent — they were assigned a sex, surgically. Trans people have stolen this and used it for pity points, as though a nurse simply observing the obvious is comparable to the violence done to people with DSD’s who have atypical genitalia.

Is it up to Gen X to save the world from WOKE? Funny OpEd - "Cancel culture is out of control — and Gen X is our only hope " by BEB in GenderCritical

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It’s literally Gen X who are teaching this garbage in schools and started the trend of transing their own children for the special points.

So... doubt it. Reality is, generational divides are arbitrary. Whatever Gen X might have been 30 years ago, they’re proud conformists now, just like most people are after a few decades of cultural training.

I want my surgery to bring all the lesbians to the yard by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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Right? I’ve never seen a trans person who doesn’t look at least a little “off” in real life, or standing next to someone of the sex they’re pretending to be. Even if I don’t pick it up at a cursory glance, it never takes long. That plus a totally wrong “vagina” is a dead give-away.

Yeah, rape by deception is actually a crime in some places and I hope he goes to jail if he ever attempts this.

These men's experiences with AGP -- Thoughts? by usehername in LGBDropTheT

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I think I actually know a guy like this. I’m pretty sure he’s AGP and identified as an “enby” but crossdresses a lot and fetishizes degrading female stereotypes.

He ID’s as “pansexual,” but he’s only ever been interested in women, and seeks men purely for hookups as a bottom. He doesn’t seem to have any romantic interest in them at all.