(Saidit) PEAK TRANS I: Please continue to share your stories!! by Irascible-harpy in GenderCritical

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The thoroughness and viciousness of the Reddit purge, and how tra and supporters behaved during it, repeaked me. Celebrating shutting down not just opponents’ speech, but even just open discourse, like in the debate sub. Celebrating shutting down truelesbians. Lurking and threatening with possible shutdown the detrans sub, if their content wasn’t up to tra standards.

The fact that a major social media platform and public discussion host enacted such a ridiculous, widespread, and unrelenting purge based on political views that a minority of the population vehemently despises, as well as non political speech that this minority deemed not correct enough for them. I hate it so much. It’s suppression of free thought and the freedom to share and exchange such thought. Some might say, “It’s a private company and they’re free to regulate speech how they like.” They are a private company and can legally do what they like—but it seems obvious that this is the form that suppression and censoring of the public spheres of ideas would necessarily take in a late capitalist society. It’s 2020, and in the US most speech directed at the “public sphere” is conducted through private companies.

To paraphrase Justice Brandeis, the remedy for speech you hate is not suppression, but more, better speech. If TRA ideology is accckkkshuallly scientifically correct and logically valid and sound then they shouldn’t be suppressing opposing ideas—they should be meeting and defeating them in public discourse. I can’t respect a movement that shies away from such debate and can’t meet such challenges, that would prefer its opponents are simply not heard.

Edit: Honestly, it is depressing as hell. I only ever participated in the GC v QT debate sub, so I can only speak about that. There was nothing at all within the debate sub that could plausibly make it a “hate sub.” Things got heated sometimes, but “heated” for that sub didn’t include slurs, and certainly nothing actually hateful. I believe misgendering was actually against the rules, and mods were pretty strict about enforcement. Nothing about it was hateful. Redditors abusing the report button, Reddit employees with an agenda, and Reddit corporate that wants the easiest way to avoid controversy—fuck all of them.

Hello there Saidit, yet another person sick of Reddit has joined by spinalcentipede in Introductions

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I can’t believe truelesbians got banned! I’m not a lesbian but what the fuck!? Actual lesbians (as in female homosexuals, not actuallesbians in the Reddit sense) having their own communities is clearly not tolerated on Reddit. That’s disgusting. Somehow it has become woke to persecute LGB.

Aargh, so tired of being preyed upon by the trans mafia as a bi girl by GCurious80 in LGBDropTheT

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Great metaphor dude.

Yuri subreddit (lesbian relationships between women, portayed in anime, romantical or sexual) has recently forbade posting futa content (girls with penises). Check out their reaction by Gynoid_being in LGBDropTheT

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That’s just what I was thinking! If they weren’t male then they wouldn’t need the op to be female like!

I’m consistently stunned at how idiotic shit like this has become accepted, normalized, and encouraged. Like, what do they think they op is for!? It’s inherently contradictory, even if you buy into trans logic!

I think what really sets us apart from the TRAs and TQ+ is our lack of hate. by annatheginguh in LGBDropTheT

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Agree completely with this—it has NEVER even occurred to me to seek out opinions I disagree with for the sole purpose of removing their ability to be expressed. Who the fuck does that!? It’s really abnormal, and it seems very unique to this particular movement.

I think what really sets us apart from the TRAs and TQ+ is our lack of hate. by annatheginguh in LGBDropTheT

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I agree that it’s needed, but any journalist who did that would have their editors bury the article. If somehow it got published they’d be mobbed, denounced as a terf nazi, fired or forced to resign, and their career would be fucked.

Hell, the very milquetoast “free speech” letter that a bunch of notable figures signed led to a controversy at Vox, as one of the editors there published a tantrum saying she felt “unsafe” that her colleague had signed it or some shit.

I’m so fed up with contemporary discourse on the left that idk what to do. Everything seems useless. We have so much bigger things to worry about than someone “feeling unsafe” because their colleague openly supports open discourse. It all kind of makes me sick.

I think what really sets us apart from the TRAs and TQ+ is our lack of hate. by annatheginguh in LGBDropTheT

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It is very strange. My sister was on the detrans sub yesterday, which was briefly banned, probably because of TRAs reporting it en masse, and she was so discouraged seeing how many TRA stopped in to comment things to the effect of “well your community deserves it because it’s been infiltrated by TERFs!”, and “I’m hitting the report button right now!”

Over and over again. They can’t let other people just be. They go out of their way to shut down not just political or philosophical opponents, but to shut up neutral people who fail to sufficiently validate them enough. It’s what cluster B disorders look like when organized, mobilized, and supported by ignorant ally idiots intoxicated with “woke” fever and fervor.