Holy shit boys by IndianaJones in whatever

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Interesting

Elon has been firing all the libshit women by Tarrock in politics

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Any thoughts on why there are almost zero white men? Is it a California population thing, discrimination or are white men just not good programmers?

The US Supreme court has overturned Roe vs Wade - Thoughts? by Nasser in debatealtright

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Seems inconsistent

Race and animal abuse data? by curious2 in debatealtright

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Damn that’s barbaric. As for whites, I’m not sure. It may be Indians as another user mentioned. They worship cows. I’m not sure if that care is extended to other animals as well.

Race and animal abuse data? by curious2 in debatealtright

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All good points. In this case, I’m looking for direct person on animal abuse. I suspect most people who eat meat wouldn’t have the heart to actually go through with, for example, cutting a cow’s throat.

Was 9/11 an inside job? by Blackbrownfreestuff in debatealtright

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The question implied by, “jet fuel can’t melt steel beams” is, “So, then why did it?” It’s referring to to the “molten steel” that existed for days after, witnessed by firefighters and denied by NIST.

Google “incontrovertible proof“ and NIST for a good video on this.

Leftists: "Segregation ended less than 60 years ago. That's less than a human life-span!" by [deleted] in debatealtright

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All my response means is, if whites didn’t need blacks in order to progress, then blacks shouldn’t have needed whites in order to progress, making any reference to segregation a moot point.

I don’t see how either of your points counters that or why I “need” to refute something else first.

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You are correct that dingleberry is a shill. I set him up nicely here to prove it.

https://saidit.net/s/news/comments/9kts/hundreds_of_health_care_workers_fired_for/yy6d?context=3

If alt right can blame black crime ultimately on the Js, then why can’t the media blame black on Asian crimes ultimately on white supremacy. by curious2 in debatealtright

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If you remove a stop sign, are you free from blame when the traffic accident occurs? It’s the same principle here.

I believe the alt right angle is that Js are enabling and facilitating black crime with their constant talk of equality and failing to report black crime, which makes people essentially lower their guard around blacks when, in fact, they shouldn’t be “relaxed.” Is this not correct?

Race and animal abuse data? by curious2 in debatealtright

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Those links can take you on a sad path :(

Why Kanye West is right. People are awfully afraid to criticize a group that supposedly wields no political power. They called him anti-semitic, but they didn’t call him a liar. Youtube censored the original video, so make sure to share this around so it gets more views. by Chipit in censorship

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the main question

False. Safety first. Understanding motive might be of academic interest later, but it takes a backseat to the immediate avoidance of threat. It’s certainly not the victim’s burden.

Why would Kanye need to solve the puzzle for “why” any more than the person who chooses to sound the alarm on the correlation between pit bulls and violence?

What actual harm have “the Jews” caused Kanye or the black community as a whole? by curious2 in debatealtright

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Saying plantation doesn’t make it harmful. In fact, they’re mostly millionaires in those industries. That’s the opposite of harmful.

Leftists: "Segregation ended less than 60 years ago. That's less than a human life-span!" by [deleted] in debatealtright

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Okay, so it did mean that Whites were progressing at the time.

Not being sarcastic, but I feel like that was apparent in my statement. Could I have worded it better?

“Segregation didn’t seem to slow whites down”

Leftists: "Segregation ended less than 60 years ago. That's less than a human life-span!" by [deleted] in debatealtright

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Couldn’t you just counter it with, “Segregation didn’t seem to slow whites down”?

Racial Diversity: Strength or Weakness? by Fourth_stage in debatealtright

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I don’t know man. I was feeling pretty morally superior to you after my last comment. Haha. I think white libs have no problem holding both the belief that “we all bleed red” AND the belief that whites are due some comeuppance. I think that feeling of self-sacrifice actually makes them feel noble and selfless.

It’s not that I disagree with you logically. But Internet race debates aren’t real debates. They are solely about moral superiority.

If I’ve been taught that whites “cheated” to get to where they are, then any “but you’re hurting my white feelings” stuff is going to sound like you’re selfish and avoiding the issue. “Good people help the underdog.”

Lauren Southern had some good one-liners about this...

Facts don’t care about your feelings, but to liberals, their feelings don’t care about your facts.

Also, liberals don’t care what you know until they know that you care.

Racial Diversity: Strength or Weakness? by Fourth_stage in debatealtright

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I asked only two questions. You managed to not answer either directly. We’re all equal.

Why do you conflate helping disadvantaged POC with “hurting” and “attacking” white people? Privileged White people have been at the top of the pyramid for so long. It’s time the POC got their piece of the pie. The colonizers/slave holders are finally getting a small taste of their own medicine. The playing field hasn’t even begun to become level.

a phrase used to target and discriminate against Whites

Oh you poor white person. We are so oppressed!

white communities

White supremacist communities

Racial Diversity: Strength or Weakness? by Fourth_stage in debatealtright

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Since it’s hard to find debaters, I’ll be the devils advocate here:

Why do you have to be pro-white? Cant you just be pro-human? We all bleed red. You sound like a racist.

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Me:

Were award-winning, peer-reviewed cardiologist and epidemiologist Dr Royceberg’s opposing assessments also deemed “poorly argued?”

Dingleberry:

yes

That’s interesting. Because I completely made up that name out of thin air. LMAO! Fraud.

YEAR ONE. Everything we built on our abandoned land - ProjectKamp by send_nasty_stuff in 200acres

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Incredible. That’s not just ambition. How does someone learn to do all that? Solar panels. Pizza ovens. Awesome. Thanks for the post.

FTN comes out on the anti-vax side by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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Interesting. I could see your point if vaers death incidents mentioned those “normal” causes of death (car accidents, cancer, etc), but they don’t. So, why couldn’t one argue that these deaths are in addition to the deaths you mention? Curious what you think of this from Dr McCullough. Have you seen it?

“And so two important analyses came forward, one from McLaughlin in London and one by Rose, using the VAERS data and they basically concluded this: that 50% of the deaths occur between 48 hours of the injection and 80% of the deaths occur within a week.

86% of the deaths have no other explanation. They’re well enough to walk into an ambulatory and actually have the COVID-19 vaccine and within two days, they’ve died. So, it’s my judgement – and I’ve done a lot of work on data and safety monitoring boards and clinical review boards – it’s my judgement, at this point in time that the vaccine is the cause of death in the majority of cases.”

https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/dr-peter-mccullough-urgent-warning-about-poisonous-jabs/

Race and animal abuse data? by curious2 in debatealtright

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Thanks again

Race and animal abuse data? by curious2 in debatealtright

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Thanks for the effort here. Do you know on which of the 19 pages it says blacks are 36 percent more likely to abuse animals? I skimmed it pretty thoroughly and couldn’t find that.

Papers, Please! Oregon Now Requires ‘Proof of Vaccination’ by NewsJunkie in news

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That’s a good point. If someone believes we are innocent until proven guilty, then the “sick until proven healthy” approach (which requiring masks implies) would seem to contradict that.

What does the coercion look like behind the scenes that makes seemingly every business eventually cave to the “globalists?” by curious2 in debatealtright

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Interesting. In the case of Kanye, I wonder how much actual organic outrage there would really be from a 98% non-j country or how much of it would be AstroTurfed and used as a pretext.

What does the coercion look like behind the scenes that makes seemingly every business eventually cave to the “globalists?” by curious2 in debatealtright

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I doubt the alleged netflix and Disney employee “mobs” were armed. Yet, for some reason, management “caves.”

What actual harm have “the Jews” caused Kanye or the black community as a whole? by curious2 in debatealtright

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I see how things that hurt Americans in general would hurt blacks too. Like, as you say, bombing other countries and neglect and such. I guess I was looking for something more specific to blacks.

they would also push forward narratives that says blacks, whites and all other races would be better served living in their own communities far away from each other.

Do you really believe blacks would be better served living in their own communities? True, The media doesn’t mention black on black crime. But I doubt blacks are ignorant of that crime, and the integration into non-black neighborhoods would only dilute that threat.

What debate tricks/tips have you found to be particularly helpful? by curious2 in debatealtright

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Thoughtful response. Could you link to a particular example of this in action?

Now they will reach the conclusion that JEWS are overrepresented and they will have to either admit that they are antiwhite or that they want to decrease jewish overrepresentation.

Do you find that they’re ok with over representation in area “x” because there is under representation in area “y”.

As for the first strategy, if someone calls you a racist, what are you saying is the appropriate response?

I know this isn’t a Trump forum, but when Trump supporters “leaned in” to being called deplorables, that seemed to be pretty effective. Basically, instead of denying it and arguing semantics, hijack it, and put the burden on them to prove why their usage of that term makes it a pejorative.

Some new Crime Statistics dropped for 2021 by TheWorldToCome in debatealtright

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70%? I don’t understand that logic. If the larger sample creates 60%, then how can a smaller sample create more than 60%? Am I missing something?

I think you mean the rate itself would increase. From 5x for the 13% to about 20x-ish for the 2.5% group.

Jews don't control the media by Dragonerne in pics

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Please tell me again, what specifically is it that we white people own?

Not that guy, and Just guessing here, but Isn’t most of the privately owned land heavily in whites’ favor with non-whites disproportionately in concrete cities?

Leftists: "Segregation ended less than 60 years ago. That's less than a human life-span!" by [deleted] in debatealtright

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Why would I need to to do that? The OP didn’t give context, so it’s hard to say. My response seems fine. What exactly would your response to my response be?

Racial Diversity: Strength or Weakness? by Fourth_stage in debatealtright

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Well I guess I can’t argue if you’ve had good luck. I agree a thread like that would be good. But there’s such little engagement here. Not sure how well that would work out. Good luck 👍🏻

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Not who you’re chatting with, and I agree with you but couldn’t this chart be easily dismissed as, “the number of vaxxed far outnumber the unvaxxed. Therefore, it would make sense that more vaxxed die from Covid than unvaxxed.”

Hundreds of health care workers fired for refusing covid jabs win multi-million dollar settlement. First of many, hopefully by iamonlyoneman in news

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Were award-winning, peer-reviewed cardiologist and epidemiologist Dr Royceberg’s opposing assessments also deemed “poorly argued?”

Hundreds of health care workers fired for refusing covid jabs win multi-million dollar settlement. First of many, hopefully by iamonlyoneman in news

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If you don’t know their argument, then how can you say they have “no argument” and how can informed consent to be given?

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You’ve witnessed “thousands of scientists” saying something? When? Where?

Was it a public back-and-forth where the scientists (like Peter McCullough, Robert Malone, Ryan Cole, Simone Gold, etc.) representing the opposing arguments were included? What exactly were their most compelling arguments, and how were they disproven?

Personally, I’ve never seen any public conversation/debate on the issue. How does “informed consent” work without knowing all sides?

Hundreds of health care workers fired for refusing covid jabs win multi-million dollar settlement. First of many, hopefully by iamonlyoneman in news

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You just skipped my questions and went straight to, “because they said so.”

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What evidence convinced you that Covid has killed or seriously harmed anyone? Even the CDC reported that 95% of “Covid deaths” had at least two comorbidities. I’d assume most, if not all of the remaining 5% had at least one comorbidity.

Does just arbitrarily saying that Covid “aggravated” those comorbidities causing death really satisfy their burden of proof to you, especially when the WHO openly defines “Covid death” as anyone who dies while having Covid (even if it’s by something unrelated like a gun shot to the head)?

Today a Good Jew Died by send_nasty_stuff in debatealtright

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Dodging. No fun.

Vaccine side effects: A personal anecdote by TheJamesRocket in debatealtright

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I still disagree

Vaccine side effects: A personal anecdote by TheJamesRocket in debatealtright

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I disagree

Vaccine side effects: A personal anecdote by TheJamesRocket in debatealtright

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No thoughts on judge Judy? Lol

Again, unless you’re fixated on the easy “hologram” side of the debate, I’m not sure how you’re jumping to Covid conspiracy being “demonstrably false and illogical” (especially when you’ve admitted to overlapping interests) in response to me pointing out the oddity of a dissident erring on the side of further normalizing mass trust and mass acquiescence to a group that he considers an enemy. I would think, even if there weren’t millions of adverse events reported, you’d advise against compliance for that reason alone.

Australia and Canada are still very much in Covid mode. Biden just renewed the emergency through July. I’m still not clear on why, if they don’t want the virus to run “rampant,” they don’t simply have a debate to convert a good number of skeptics.

Vaccine side effects: A personal anecdote by TheJamesRocket in debatealtright

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So you’re adamantly anti-Covid conspiracy, but admit that it is coincidentally in line with their “interests?”

Saying they don’t debate because they are “largely right” is circular and presumes a position that can be respected only AFTER a thorough back and forth debate has been had. That hasn’t been done.

Short of that, if you were Judge Judy trying to hear both sides of a matter, and one party was continuously preventing the other party from being heard, what do you think she would do? She would grant default judgment against the suppressive party. You’re doing the opposite.

Also, by fixating on claims of FEMA camps and doomsday speculations, it reminds me of people who think all 9/11 truthers believe the planes were holograms. The “hysterical shit” is mostly the result of people having to take their persuasion tactics to the next level, because others (such as yourself?) flippantly dismiss the less sexy red flags. Like the obvious suppression of professional opposing viewpoints I’ve been talking about.

Again, I’m just curious as my username suggests. But I would think a responsible dissident would error on the side of not further normalizing trust and acquiescence to an authority that is already allegedly is trying to replace his people. But again, you’re doing the opposite.

Can we make a list of all the red flags/inconsistencies that led people to believe the Covid/vax hysteria is nonsense? by curious2 in whatever

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Thanks for the effort!

Vaccine side effects: A personal anecdote by TheJamesRocket in debatealtright

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But they’re not censoring the pro vax position. Why don’t they censor Fauci. Their “addiction” is only in one direction?

Why would they host multiple primary/general election debates but not vax debates? What was Dr McCullough’s rebuttal to the person who rebutted him? And what will the new rebuttal to Dr McCullough be? I’m not smarter than them. Surely they know that more people would take the vax with even the appearance of a debate. Yet, no debate to save lives?

Vaccine side effects: A personal anecdote by TheJamesRocket in debatealtright

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If they genuinely want to get everyone vaxxed for their safety, why do you think there is no PUBLIC debate though, on TV, ensuring that no stone is left unturned? For example, between Fauci and Peter McCullough, if only to expose the flaws in McCullough’s position, which could inspire many of the hold-outs to get it, right?

We have public debates between political candidates to supposedly to educate the voter. Why wouldn’t they want to have a thorough public debate if billions of people are suddenly going to be basically forced to inject a foreign substance into their veins?

Vaccine side effects: A personal anecdote by TheJamesRocket in debatealtright

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In your opinion, what should everyday people do with the professional opinions of doctors like Peter McCullough, Ryan Cole, Robert Malone, etc? Should they just be dismissed, and the opinions of the politician-affiliated professionals be adopted without a public debate? Are there any red flags the opposing position has raised that have any legitimacy to you?

Vaccine side effects: A personal anecdote by TheJamesRocket in debatealtright

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In your opinion, what should everyday people do with the professional opinions of doctors like Peter McCullough, Ryan Cole, Robert Malone, etc? Should they just be dismissed, and the opinions of the politician-affiliated professionals be adopted without a public debate?

Are there any red flags the opposing position has raised that have any legitimacy to you?

If alt right can blame black crime ultimately on the Js, then why can’t the media blame black on Asian crimes ultimately on white supremacy. by curious2 in debatealtright

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Yes. That’s what I’m referring to. Both Ho (from that article) and the alt right are using the same indirect blame approach.

If you can blame Js, then why can’t they blame white supremacy?

If alt right can blame black crime ultimately on the Js, then why can’t the media blame black on Asian crimes ultimately on white supremacy. by curious2 in debatealtright

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It’s the indirect facilitating and enabling that ultimately results in black violence that I’m referring to. The same logic could be used for white supremacy’s indirect influence on black on Asian crime, no?

I explain it a little further in my response to Foxysdt above, in case that wasn’t clear.