What words/phrases are you sick of hearing, and/or can't take seriously anymore? by OPPRESSED_REPTILIAN in LGBDropTheT

[–]clitoriana 23 insightful - 5 fun23 insightful - 4 fun24 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

I struggle not to dry-heave whenever I see "valid" nowadays.

To no one's surprise, creator of the "lesbian masterdoc" comes out as bi. by MilkTea in LGBDropTheT

[–]clitoriana 24 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 0 fun25 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Now, if only all the obviously bisexual women who claim that the doc made them realize they are lesbians who have to "fight" their "comphet" (when what they're actually describing is clear opposite-sex attraction) would now spend some time reflecting on what this means & question their conclusion about themselves instead of what they're actually doing: doubling down and insisting that the doc is still "valid" and that it "helped" them🤦‍♀️

Just your typical lesbian sex struggles... 🤢 by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

[–]clitoriana 16 insightful - 5 fun16 insightful - 4 fun17 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

"that's how all vaginas smell" uh, as an official vagina-bearer, no. Puss ain't supposed to smell like stale urine, cheese, or feces.

Episode 2: Are you dating women or dating vaginas? by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

[–]clitoriana 16 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

This dude is scarier than any horror movie this Halloween.

What people think bisexuality is like by PeakingPeachEater in Bisexuals

[–]clitoriana 10 insightful - 5 fun10 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

I really like this. It's cute, but it's also very true... It's a whole sexuality on it's own.

...Not to be corny, but this makes me wonder why the kiddies like to say that lemons bars are "bi culture" when they could have claimed Neapolitan ice cream for us! Think about it!

What's the hardest part of being bisexual? by PatsyStone in Bisexuals

[–]clitoriana 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The way nobody (including us bisexuals a lot of the time) can seem to comprehend it even though it's technically the most simple goddamn concept in the world: a person who is attracted to both sexes. Yet we constantly overthink and question it and so does everybody else...😂 it's SO simple but everyone has to make it so complicated. wtf!

Why Do You Want To "Drop The T"? by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

[–]clitoriana 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If it wasn't clear before this backlash to the BBC article, it should be now: they believe, against all common sense and morals, that their self-perception is more important than other people's sexual boundaries. Everything they do is to get more narcissistic supply, and they've used vicious harassment, shaming, sabotage, threats of suicide, and even violence in some cases to rope otherwise normal people into fighting for them. We've got thousands of sniveling COWARDS out there wringing their fingers over how this makes the poor transwomen feel, after lesbians finally got a voice in a major publication and were able to speak out about the coercion and homophobic assault perpetrated by trans-identified males. What happened to "believe survivors" and "believe women"? The majority of the sympathy and support is going to the predators. This is a monstrosity.

Drop the T, because they are far too likely to be homophobic rapists or sympathize with and enable homophobic rapists.

"I want to date lesbians" is a valid reason for transition by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

[–]clitoriana 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

translation: "My gender identity is one big rape fantasy and I'm the rapist."

(Saidit) PEAK TRANS I: Please continue to share your stories!! by Irascible-harpy in GenderCritical

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I "peaked" almost 5 years ago, and I thought at this point nothing would surprise me, but I've spent so long now surrounded by intelligent, reality-acknowledging people and normies that today, when I heard the news about Chris-Chan, a mentally ill TiM allegedly raping his elderly demented mother, and saw tons of posts on Twitter and Tumblr asking people not to "misgender" him & lamenting how "transphobes" will use this against trans people... I realized I fucking hate these people. I literally hate them. They're horrible people with no moral center, just an all-consuming obsession with their personal identity. No sympathy left for people so heartless and selfish that they cry about how an old woman possibly having been raped affects them.

The site owner says the outage was cause by a billing error with the server host by PatsyStone in LGBDropTheT

[–]clitoriana 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I had no idea what was going on. Glad we're back!

[Article] "Most Bisexuals Will Date Men And Women But Not A Transwoman" by PeakingPeachEater in Bisexuals

[–]clitoriana 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I only just started reading and I already feel like this article aged me 1000 years.

Maybe it’s just me, but I always thought of Bisexuals and Pansexuals as perhaps the most sexually evolved of our species. They aren’t obsessed with or distracted by genitals. They don’t hyperfocus on gender roles and instead see beyond the gender exterior and base their attraction on an individual’s quality of character. For these people, sex is secondary, and not the primary pursuit.

When oh when will they stop treating sexual orientations as political statements, ideological positions, intellectual exercises, and philanthropic outreach (sex for the needy! romantic attentions for gender minorities! humanitarian aid for people with narcissistic personality disorder!)?

It's also really weird that they talk about us like we have sex like we're extraterrestrial beings levitating and psychically transmitting intuitive vibes at each other...Bruh. I am very much concerned with genitals when it comes to having sex with someone. I actively desire and interact with a partner's body. Sex isn't secondary, it's part and parcel. Someone's body is an inextricable part of who they are, and if I love and want someone, their body is included. Maybe I am alone in feeling this way but I think it's unhealthy to try to divorce someone from their physical form and wax poetic about how you see past that (and more than a little insulting - like, aren't you physically attracted to your own lover?! lol).

Do they make me laugh? Do I enjoy spending time with them? Do I look forward to seeing them each day? Do we share commonalities? Are they intellectually stimulating? These things usually determine whether or not a Bisexual or Pansexual becomes sexually attracted to another individual, be they male or female, their gender is, allegedly, largely irrelevant.

Straight and gay people also find those things important regarding attraction. They're not genital-obsessed sex freaks. They, too, experience this! They, too, care about the personalities, values, and interests of their partners.

Women tend to be more sexually liberated and emotionally accessible. Women are far more capable of looking past the body and into the eyes of a prospective lover. They simply do not prioritize the act of sex over the emotional satisfaction of a compatible partner.

Red flags. Sounds like this person enjoys how female socialization often compels us to put other people's emotional satisfaction over our own needs and wants.

I don't know if I can take this article seriously. I'm kind of tired of trans people begging everyone else to have sex with them. I'm firmly unwavering on my own personal No-Trans law, because I'm not into emotionally unstable people with a tenuous grip on reality.

What are your thoughts on bisexual terminology? by PeakingPeachEater in Bisexuals

[–]clitoriana 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

TBH I think stag and doe are ridiculous and gross. We're not animals... and it's literally a direct copy of butch/femme. I'd be surprised if anyone outside of tumblr uses it. I have mixed feelings about us calling ourselves butch/femme but it's like, if you want another gender identity that badly then use the originals. Stag/doe is just corny. 😂

However, I'm a hypocrite because I think tomcat sounds cute. I have never used it, though, and never will, because it sounds juvenile and I'm approaching 30. And again, I don't think anyone other than kids on the internet use it.

I am a female-exclusive bisexual. I'm beginning to feel uncomfortable with the FEBFEM label though. I just want to call myself bi & leave it at that. I'm a feminist separatist but still proud of being bisexual. I like that it exists because it makes it easier to connect with other bi women like me. But I also feel conflicted about it, like it's becoming yet another unnecessary micro-label.

I don't even know what to say about "bi lesbians," god what a joke! I think some of them are bi women who would still happily date men (even if the men don't identify as men) or self-hating lesbians that date "cis" women and female nonbinary-identified women. It's so incredibly stupid.

What people think bisexuality is like by PeakingPeachEater in Bisexuals

[–]clitoriana 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

For some reason, users on r/bisexual love claiming arbitrary things as bi culture like lemon bars, cuffed jeans, finger guns, and bob haircuts. I don't know when or why it started but it's complete nonsense! Lol

What does the bisexual flag represent? by PeakingPeachEater in Bisexuals

[–]clitoriana 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I like how explicit Michael Page was about SEX-BASED attraction. I don't think it necessarily means he was gender critical because his comments were from the late 90s, and I think maybe that was before it became an unforgivable sin to know that biological sex exists. However, it would be nice if so. Interesting post and comparisons.

Should we take the 'B' out of LGBT? by PeakingPeachEater in Bisexuals

[–]clitoriana 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm so torn because I definitely want us to develop our own strong identity, culture, intellectual work, and entertainment! But I don't want to avoid gay and lesbian stuff. We have so much to gain from widening our perspectives. Plus, we have always been a part of gay and lesbian activism and media from the very beginning, even if we've been erased (either by ourselves or them haha). I like supporting gay and lesbian stuff, because I feel similar to them, I seek out media and information related to same-sex love.

BisexualRealTalk makes an analogy about us(bisexuals) working our way up the company ladder and there is ONE more person on top(the gay community). Will you step down after working hard at a company? He says "No, we would want to be made equals to the company or go off and start our own."

I don't want LGBT to be a corporate ladder. Bisexuals are not a company. We're a highly diverse group of people and I just want for us to 1. really stake out a place for ourselves and examine who and what we are, and make ourselves heard, and 2. stop being the last group of people it's fine for everyone else to dunk on apparently

Bisexuality vs Pansexuality by PeakingPeachEater in Bisexuals

[–]clitoriana 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think pansexual is a useless, meaningless identity that shouldn't exist. It's the same thing as bisexuality, but quirky and unique because they claim to like all genders or are attracted to personality before anything else. Pansexuals are just bisexuals who think they're special. And bisexuals are just people who can be attracted to both sexes - gender identities are irrelevant because attraction is based on sex.

Lil Nas X is supergay by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

[–]clitoriana 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

translation: "I wish for this gay man I have never met and never will and have zero connection to beyond a parasocial obsession and projection to be raped by a dildo because he said something that didn't explicitly validate my self-image"

What are your thoughts on the LGBTQIA+ as the B? by PeakingPeachEater in Bisexuals

[–]clitoriana 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

1) What's the first thing you think of when seeing that acronym? Alphabet soup

2) Do you feel as though you are part of the community? I think I am, but I don't feel like I am.

3) In your opinion, do all those letters belong together? If not, which letters do you feel belong together vs do not make sense? LGB make sense together, TQ should go off and leave us alone, and the other stuff either isn't relevant or isn't real.

3) As part of the B, do you feel supported by the other letters? I barely feel supported by my own letter! 😂

4) What is a good way to support the B? Stop trying to define us if you aren't bi, stop asserting that we are somehow unable to fully understand homophobia or love either sex just because we can be attracted to both, stop downplaying what we deal with any time we dare to speak up about things that affect us.

5) What is a good way for the B to support the other letters? Stop talking over them, stop trying to interpret their sexualities and experiences through our own (if we don't like it when they do that, it's hypocritical to pull the same shit ourselves), respect their boundaries and exclusive spaces, and for fuck's sake if someone says they don't date bisexuals just accept it and move on. You don't want someone that doesn't accept you for who you are anyway.

6) Any additional thoughts? I don't know if there can ever be a real bi community. I think maybe we're just too diverse. But it would be nice if we had one, and if overall the bisexual "consciousness level" wasn't still at zero. Lol

"my friend claims to be bi but has only dated men/women" by [deleted] in Bisexuals

[–]clitoriana 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sometimes it feels like we can't do anything without somebody shitting on us. We could try to explain this kind of thing to them over and over but they still won't listen because it was always only coming from a place of hating bisexuals. So our explanations and lamentations typically fall on deaf ears. I am starting to care less and less... our dating histories and futures are none of their business. They're not invited lol. 🤭

I say we be as loud and proud as we wanna be, even if we get shit on for it, because god knows all anybody else has to say about it is that we're liars, cheaters, and fakers. We have to be there for each other since no one else will.

What is bisexual+? The 'evolution' of the word bisexual. by PeakingPeachEater in Bisexuals

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What people think bisexuality is like by PeakingPeachEater in Bisexuals

[–]clitoriana 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That list is so embarrassing. No wonder people think we're just "spicy straights" who want to feel unique - nothing on that list except #8 had anything to do with bisexuality or community/culture formed under adverse conditions. It's a bunch of ~quirky~ meaningless stuff that teenagers think is a crucial aspect of their personality.

When somebody says bisexuality is a phase--- by PeakingPeachEater in Bisexuals

[–]clitoriana 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

LOL Bye bye bye, cuz you're bi bi bi!

Why is it so hard for some people to understand the concept of being bi?! 🤦

Help, our sex life is an existential nightmare of identity politics by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

[–]clitoriana 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Imagine this being your FIRST relationship. What a shitty time for both of them. Also, no longer spending time in online groups full of they/thems makes those pronouns sound really weird, impersonal, and anonymous. Like you're not talking to or about anyone in particular. It just sounds so sad and distant when she's supposed to be referring to the closest, most intimate person in her life.

Have you seen the "nullification surgery" offered by alignsurgical.com? by joogabah in LGBDropTheT

[–]clitoriana 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is cruel. Cosmetic surgeons who profit off of this severe mental illness, self-loathing, and self-destruction are monsters.

I'm gay. I like men. No, not THOSE men. But we're still men. I mean... um... er... by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

[–]clitoriana 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"I'm allowed to have boundaries and be selective with who I have sex with but only me. Nobody else. The rest of you are still subject to my insane rules and moral values that make zero sense and only benefit me while hurting you! I'm allowed to refuse to do things that would make me uncomfortable but the rest of you have to suffer and let yourselves be violated or else I'll scream that you're a transphobe and have you witch hunted online for being gay."

Disgusting with OSA by [deleted] in Bisexuals

[–]clitoriana 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sure, I've felt that way now and then. But is the OSA really the problem or is it the shit people (men or women, straight or gay) have to say about it and about us as bisexuals and us as bisexual women? The good thing about being bi is our lives are entirely what we make of them. It's all about choices. You don't have to ever be intimate with a man again if you know it would only hurt you. (& if you are experiencing conflicting emotions, distress, and anger then it's obviously not good for the man either because that dynamic would not be healthy for either of you.) It's not like you owe anyone sex or a relationship. OSA feelings =/= OSA actions, is what I mean I guess. OSA is natural and normal in us, but it's complicated because we live in a heteropatriarchal world and there are endless ways that it twists and poisons our ability to have natural and normal relations with the opposite sex. Which is not our fault. It's not a problem that originates in you. I think it's cool that we can feel attracted to pretty much anyone who catches our eye, but we don't have to do shit about it if we don't want to. And if anyone has anything nasty to say about us, we can choose to disregard irrelevant opinions that are based on someone else's projections onto us rather than reality.

Again, it's ok that you feel like this but it's not your fault & you aren't dirty or tainted or anything of the sort for having been with men before and still feeling attracted to them. Your sexuality is a whole and good and natural one - it's the world outside of you that has planted and nurtured this self-loathing. Also, you can prefer and/or focus mostly or entirely on your SSA and still be bi and unashamed of it (because your bisexuality is what enables you to even be attracted to women at all), you don't have to be a lesbian for that. It's not exclusively their domain hahah.

*sight* I knew it ( Luz from The Owl House "confirmed" as gnc) by Mermer in GenderCritical

[–]clitoriana 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Wow, non-binary icon! Not, y'know, a little girl with short hair, sneakers, and a crush on another girl. Considering her trans or "non-cis" is degrading and creepy.

r/reclassified - r/FEBfems banned for promoting hate, 45 mins ago by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

[–]clitoriana 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"Found another subreddit to try to avoid" apparently meant spam the comments with vulgar troll posts and make posts telling us "TERFs" to kill ourselves, because that's what they were doing. It's so funny how they whine about us and act like they're victims but intentionally seek us out to bother us when WE'RE avoiding THEM.

Alternatives to FEB/MEB? by BiHorror in Bisexuals

[–]clitoriana 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

lol I'm a feminist so I have no issue with the origin of the term but it is an ugly, clumsy acronym so a more pleasant-sounding slang word for us would be great. Ages ago I saw some tumblr user propose that bisexuals who heavily prefer or only go for their same sex call themselves "lavender bi" which I think is kinda cute. I wanna be a lavender bi...

"There are more than 2 genders" #DroptheB by PeakingPeachEater in Bisexuals

[–]clitoriana 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I think they were trying to "trigger" the LGBTQWTFBBQ by turning their own stupid pomo psy-op discourse against them. It unfortunately worked really well because they're all hysterical and easily manipulated.

I think bisexuals that feel strongly about our sexuality being a "whole" one and not half/half, and want to feel comfortable discussing and enjoying opposite-sex relationships/attractions as well as same-sex should work to create specifically bisexual communities/groups/meetups/etc for themselves. That doesn't mean they have to separate from any other groups but having their own would do them good and make them feel less alienated by straight or gay people not understanding them, stereotyping them, not believing they're real or asking them inappropriate questions.

As I always say, a lot of "discourse" and other bullshit would be rendered meaningless if people could just admit that sexuality is about biological sex, not gender identity. I'm not fucking someone's pronouns lol

Is anyone out there/thoughts on biphobia by Constantine in Bisexuals

[–]clitoriana 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think biphobia is more like, people not believing it exists, that it's a phase or a stepping stone to gay, or that "everyone is a little bit bi." (<--that last one is widely perpetuated by bisexuals themselves, but for some reason straight people like to say it too and it's yet another way actual bisexuality is dismissed and erased)

Also, the way it's hard for many to wrap their heads around the concept of bisexuality being a WHOLE sexuality on it's own and not half straight/half gay, or 60/40, etc. Not fluid - though our attractions and preferences and desires and behaviors may be fluid, our sexuality is and always will be BI.

There's also stereotypes about us being sexually deviant, predatory, only into sex and hooking up, incapable of real love, unfaithful cheaters, can't make up our minds, down to fuck anything that moves, STD-riddled, into threesomes and group sex and polyamory... I could go on. I know there are some bisexuals that fit those descriptions but we are an incredibly diverse group.

Some of this stuff can overlap with homophobia or misogyny, but these things are aimed toward bi people so I'd consider it biphobia.

I wish I knew how to address it. I think it would require a level of energy and willingness to put myself out there that I don't have. I don't engage with "the community" at large and my few close friends are lesbians. I just don't want to deal with everyone's preconceived notions about us, especially as a bi woman.

Not dating for a lot of reasons lol, especially during this pandemic. But I would only be interested in same-sex relationships, and preferably other bi women, because maybe we could understand each other more. It is highly unlikely that I'd pursue anything with a man, but if I ever did, I would only try it with a bi man. Too many straight men out there act like bi chick = free porn show for their entertainment or threesomes galore. Or get jealous. That shit is creepy.

"'I’m not attracted to trans people' is based on the idea that you actually CAN exclude trans folks from your dating pool, and you absolutely positively can’t" by ThrowMeAway2879 in LGBDropTheT

[–]clitoriana 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I stay excluding trans people from as many areas of my life as possible 💕

Good lord, the IKEA bisexual-themed couch is a disaster. by [deleted] in Bisexuals

[–]clitoriana 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

i just want to FUCK on the bisexual couch

Bi culture: possible? desirable? what should it look like? by PenseePansy in Bisexuals

[–]clitoriana 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

I want to start doing this too 😂 Just to see what I can glean from the data

Dating as a bisexual male is a paradox by PeakingPeachEater in Bisexuals

[–]clitoriana 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

"Bisexuals are lucky, they have double the options! 😂" NOT QUITE...

Bi Puns by PatsyStone in Bisexuals

[–]clitoriana 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's not a thing. Maybe the stereotype exists because people with a geeky, pun-ny sense of humor like to congregate on websites like Tumblr and Reddit, which is where I see them pushing that image. But it has nothing to do with sexuality.

How do you feel about lesbian/gay-only spaces that exclude bisexuals? by usehername in Bisexuals

[–]clitoriana 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I only feel that they need to be very clear and upfront about it from the get-go - homosexuals only, no bisexuals. If we are sad about being left out, we can also make a bisexual space and a mixed space, etc. And for all this, I'm referring to both in-person groups/events/etc and online groups/websites/etc.

Have any of you ever received services of any kind from a "pride center" or a gay community center? by PatsyStone in Bisexuals

[–]clitoriana 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There's an LGBT Center in my city, but I've never been there. I have been considering visiting lately. There's actually some sort of "education program" where people can "learn more about what it means to be Bi+ and about the issues facing this often misunderstood, but important, component of the LGBTQ+ community" - it's currently conducted online. I don't know what to make of it, but the people involved are they/thems and it includes pan/mspec/etc identities, which is not my thing. I think something like this is doing more damage than helping us, and the whole "bi+" thing makes me feel so sad that we can't just be proudly bisexual but we have to enable and include self-hating bisexuals that identify as anything but bi. But that's queerios for ya. There used to be a bi meetup, but I never went, because I assumed I wouldn't be able to relate to most people attending.

Unsurprisingly, there are meetups and resources and "programs" for bi, trans, "queer," etc people but NONE specifically for gays or lesbians. It just looks like a typical mess that kisses trans/nonbinary ass and is hostile to actual same-sex attraction. I don't want to engage.

Hatred of bisexuals is tied to gay marriage by PatsyStone in Bisexuals

[–]clitoriana 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree there are some disturbed individuals who just flat-out don't like us bisexuals, and project their insecurities on us. I still can't see the connection to marriage though, unless maybe you're thinking that they harbor a resentment toward us due to our bisexuality technically allowing us another option (hetero marriage)? That has always been an issue that gay people have with us & a reason they don't trust us.

What are your contradictions? by PatsyStone in Bisexuals

[–]clitoriana 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm not gay or straight, I'm bisexual! Ok ok, I know what you meant by that though. But I'm not sure what the rest of your post is asking. Can you give some examples?

When somebody says bisexuality is a phase--- by PeakingPeachEater in Bisexuals

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It's NSYNC

Is anyone out there/thoughts on biphobia by Constantine in Bisexuals

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I'm just going to reply to myself here with something I've been thinking about lately. I think the redefinition of bisexuality (mostly by actual bisexuals!) to mean "attracted to two or more genders" and the need to insist that bisexuality is not transphobic to avoid getting cancelled in our queer rape culture dystopia is an example of BIPHOBIA. I think it's biphobia that we can no longer call bisexuality what it actually is. I wish these self-hating, delusional weirdos would call themselves gendersexual or something. It's biphobic to obscure and redefine the meaning and reality of bisexuality just so genderpeople won't feel triggered. We don't exist to validate them. NO SEXUALITY EXISTS TO VALIDATE ANYONE ELSE'S IDENTITY.

It also leads to people that aren't even bi identifying as such, like lesbians who identify as bi because they're attracted to "women and nb woman-aligned genders" or some such nonsense. It's like the new version of "queer femmes" - lesbians who can no longer acknowledge that they're lesbians because their partner is FTM or uses they/them pronouns and believes they can't be women because they don't enjoy misogyny.

Thoughts on The L Word: Generation Q? by CleoMarie in FEBfems

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I never finished the original L Word, but... you mean to tell me they put Shane with a MAN? Let me guess, he's a TiM. How disgusting and shameful and homophobic. If I recall, Alice was bisexual but I still wouldn't want her to get with a TiM either, especially on a show called THE L WORD. They should have just let The L Word be and made a show called The Q Word. Leave lesbians tf alone already.

What memories stand out for you with noticing you were both opposite-sex and same-sex attracted? by [deleted] in Bisexuals

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Too many assholes lurking, that's why I hardly post here.

Bisexual lesbians by PatsyStone in Bisexuals

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I barely made it to 40 seconds. Horrid.

How are you? by PeakingPeachEater in Bisexuals

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I don't like my job (retail) and I'm afraid I'll catch COVID-19 but I can't quit because I need money. I really don't like this time of year. This November is the second anniversary of my father's death, which I have never really grieved, and I don't have time to start grieving. And I'm in the US so this election coming up has me stressed and worried. My mother is a crazy Trump cultist and that's not fun to deal with.

But I will try to stay positive. I'm not homeless, I'm not starving, and I am slowly improving my life situation! Positive thinking?!?

Pennywise Is Surprisingly Anti-Queer in ‘It Chapter Two' by PatsyStone in LGBDropTheT

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Yeah, I don't remember this being a queer thing. Been a while since I saw Seed of Chucky, but I had the impression that it was supposed to be creepy, gross, and funny.

What memories stand out for you with noticing you were both opposite-sex and same-sex attracted? by [deleted] in Bisexuals

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What happened here? 👁👄👁

Disgusting with OSA by [deleted] in Bisexuals

[–]clitoriana 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It disgusts me until I get in exactly the right mood for it once every few months. Bi-cycling at its finest? lol

Hatred of bisexuals is tied to gay marriage by PatsyStone in Bisexuals

[–]clitoriana 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I saw the comments of that one person who kept bothering you. They sound like a psycho lol. Some people have mental issues, don't let it get to you because you were polite and reasonable. <3

Hatred of bisexuals is tied to gay marriage by PatsyStone in Bisexuals

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But why? I don't see the connection

Alternatives to FEB/MEB? by BiHorror in Bisexuals

[–]clitoriana 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I wish I had a link or screencap of the post. I saw it twice while browsing random bi tags, but haven't been able to find it again. And wow thank you, I appreciate that! <3 I am glad you keep this sub active, hopefully it grows even more in 2021. 🥂

Alternatives to FEB/MEB? by BiHorror in Bisexuals

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BiW4W would be useful on a dating app, I hadn't thought of that

What does the bisexual flag represent? by PeakingPeachEater in Bisexuals

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I've been thinking about this some more and it makes me angry that this is even in the article: "The colors chosen above were used as so: The pink is for same-sex/gender attraction, blue is for different sex/gender attraction, and purple is to represent the attraction across the gender spectrum and attraction to Non-binary individuals."

There's no source and that's not what Michael Page said. The CREATOR of the flag did not say anything about gender spectrums or non-binary people.

I have to admit that usually seeing the bi flag makes me feel embarrassed because so many people talk about us like we're a joke. But knowing what he really intended when he designed it makes me proud of it. I like the deeper symbolism.

Share your favourite bisexual songs or musicians! by PeakingPeachEater in Bisexuals

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Janelle Monáe is so creative and talented, I really admire her! That's one of my favorite songs of hers.

What memories stand out for you with noticing you were both opposite-sex and same-sex attracted? by [deleted] in Bisexuals

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I want to answer the question, but it feels like such a complex thing to me, and I'm having trouble putting it into words. It has always felt like something split in two, rather than whole. I think this is because of bisexuality being discussed as both not-real and universal ("everyone is a little bit bi!), and as being half-straight half-gay rather than... bisexual, confused me for a long time. I'm sort of working on healing myself and understanding myself (in general and with regard to my sexual orientation) as whole, so for now I don't know how to approach the question.

"my friend claims to be bi but has only dated men/women" by [deleted] in Bisexuals

[–]clitoriana 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I've also fortunately never seen anyone in real life say it. The unfortunate thing is sometimes posts on the internet like "I don't want a girl that's been dicked down by a man already" (something a lesbian on twitter posted) can get a surprising amount of positive attention (shares, likes, commentary that agrees or finds it funny rather than points out the repulsive misogyny). Still, I'd like to think more people will denounce such a statement than agree with it.

Disgusting with OSA by [deleted] in Bisexuals

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Yeah, of course it's psychological, but I think I do have waxing and waning attraction and consider that part of the "bi-cycle" - I always kinda pictured my inherent attraction to men as a broken, flickering neon sign

And yeah duh it'd SUCK to be some man's little wifey!! I'd be so pissed and miserable all the time if I actually got stuck in that role. The conflicting desires of liking a guy and wanting to take care of him vs the knowledge of male and female socialization and the almost inescapable nature of patriarchy makes me crazy. There are two wolves inside me etc. Sometimes this is distressing, most of the time it's funny. And if that's how it is for me, obviously I should avoid dealing too closely with men because it would never be healthy for either of us and again, I'd prefer a woman instead anyway.

Are you suspecting I might be gay or something? Because I know what you mean about LGs saying they aren't repulsed, just completely uninterested, but that's not me. Lesbians don't get actually physically turned on by men, lesbians don't ogle men and fantasize about sex with them, so, despite how weird this all seems to sound to you, bisexuality is the only option left. I've already spent my time in the confused "Am I a lesbian or just a man-hater?" camp, been there done that got the t-shirt.

Disgusting with OSA by [deleted] in Bisexuals

[–]clitoriana 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

But you're attracted to women all the time? - Nah, I have my preferences when it comes to women. Most women I see on the street, well, I don't like their personal style and their femininity is usually a turn-off. I like them a LOT more and the ones I do like (mostly masculine/butch women) the interest is very strong and it's like my default. Maybe I'm actually always into them specifically. Everything else is part of the bi-cycle.

find the vast majority of males repulsive - actually no, regardless of whatever I say when I go TERF mode and I'm pissed off, I am kind of neutral when it comes to men being attractive or unattractive. I'm actually having stronger interest in guys right now (which hasn't happened for a while and I know it won't last so I'm not bothered) and I'm noticing them more but overall it's kinda like whatever. They're just dudes. Dicks, however, are just gross unless I'm in exactly that right mood and it looks a certain way and I'd have to personally like the guy, like have feelings for him. Actually having feelings for a man (beyond a shallow crush) is the most rare occurrence of all.

sometimes you just feel attracted to a male you would otherwise be repulsed by if it was another time - This is true tho. I wouldn't necessarily say repulsed - maybe when I'm #triggered in a radfem way and I'm super up in my head, but when I'm not like that, I feel more bored, like they can't keep my attention or they don't compare to the butch I wish I was currently being romanced by so who cares.

Now, when I AM in crazy TERF mode I don't care how hot a guy is, my fight or flight instincts kick in LOL. The struggle of being a febfem... he cute and I wanna bake him cookies and be his wifey but I also want to headbutt him? Then again, not sure if that's a febfem thing or if I'm just a complete nutcase but I just roll with it since I know at the end of the day I want to come home to a woman.

Bisexual women are being failed by their partners: Bi women dating cis straight men are the least likely to be out and here’s why by MarkJefferson in Bisexuals

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A website and a YouTube would be perfect.

Hatred of bisexuals is tied to gay marriage by PatsyStone in Bisexuals

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nah blocking you now bc i don't argue with delusional scrotes <3

What are your plans for 2021? How do you feel about the new year? by clitoriana in Bisexuals

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Yes!! Love those goals. 💪 Happy New Year!

Happy Holidays! by PeakingPeachEater in Bisexuals

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I worked so many days before Christmas but now have 3 days off in a row. So I'm just chillin. Love that sweater lol!

Self-Care Sundays: How was your day? by PeakingPeachEater in Bisexuals

[–]clitoriana 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's great that you want to finish your degree. Good luck!

Maybe it doesn't make any dent in ongoing environmental destruction and climate change, but as individuals, trying to be ethical consumers and reduce/reuse/recycle is marginally better than not trying. It'll never be enough, but unless we all suddenly decide to globally revolt and halt the endless capitalist consumption machine we are a part of, I guess it's all we can do.

I am a feminist & not interested in convincing other women not to wear makeup because they need to reach some conclusions on their own. But at the end of the day I think the questions you should ask yourself are: Do I want to wear makeup? Do I feel like putting it on today? There's all kinds of reasons women have for why they put it on anyway even when they don't feel like it or don't think it's necessary (like going to the gym or even being at home alone in their bedrooms). I think you should just not wear it sometimes, give your face a chance to "breathe" after having cosmetics covering your skin all week, and appreciate how your real face looks too.

Now I'm gonna be obnoxious because I can't keep my thoughts to myself: I would like to say that the aim is not to "shame" women, but to liberate us from unrealistic beauty standards and unhealthy media images of women that are increasingly divorced from reality. Sometimes literally, with photoshopping and filters. And that the makeup industry, an industry built on creating insecurities in women specifically and driving us to spend large amounts of money on cosmetics, is playing us like a fiddle! We can be "for" women while pointing out that not everything a woman does is a healthy/empowered choice ;-)

What does the bisexual flag represent? by PeakingPeachEater in Bisexuals

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Oh no, it looks like it was removed. :( I don't know why. I hope you saved everything you typed up.

What does the bisexual flag represent? by PeakingPeachEater in Bisexuals

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I think it would be cool and useful if you did a full post of comparisons/analysis with all three flags.

How are you? by PeakingPeachEater in Bisexuals

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My schedule worked out well enough so that I was able to get someone to cover a shift I had in between a few days off, and now I have 4 days off during the week of the anniversary. I'm going to take that time to do some cleaning and rearrange my furniture. That always refreshes me. Thank you for your concern, I surely appreciate it.

Rate Yourself on the Terf Scale by BEB in GenderCritical

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Blunt factfem in the streets, blackpilled crudefem in the sheets.

Elvira presents Night of the Living Dead (Full Movie) 🍿 by PatsyStone in Bisexuals

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I know what I'm watching tomorrow night. Thanks for the link and Happy Halloween to you too! 🎃🦇💀

Disgusting with OSA by [deleted] in Bisexuals

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Ok. Some of us do! I have no idea, the menstrual cycle is a possibility, I've actually seen a few bi women here and there suggest that. It's not like there are any studies on this so it's just one idea.

I already explained that I have conflicting desires and the nature of my attraction to men is, I guess, capricious. I know you aren't trying to be rude, and I don't perceive you as rude at all, but I have learned to just accept all this for what it is because it doesn't matter in the long run. Yeah it's worth exploring/trying to understand if you have apparently never encountered it before but I've been through these questions and possibilities with myself alone and with other bi women like me in a febfem group so I'm kinda over it all.

I don't consider it all that odd. Even straight women talk about being repulsed (or just grossed out) by men/male anatomy at times.

Matey Katy and the transphobic dogwhistle of same-sex attraction by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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"Observable reality"

Lesbians are observing the reality of your dick, or your dilated open wound, and your clear maleness, and summarily rejecting you. Get over it.

Super straights, super gays, etc are observing trans narcissism, emotional instability, botched cosmetic surgeries, rampant sex crimes, and inability to cope with observable reality, and saying no thank you to all that.

Hatred of bisexuals is tied to gay marriage by PatsyStone in Bisexuals

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Ngl bro this is incoherent and nonsensical to me. Who are you even talking to? Just go away lol

Shout out to all the non-man lesbians by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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What in the absolute fuck? The kids are so far from ok.

What are your contradictions? by PatsyStone in Bisexuals

[–]clitoriana 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I know what you mean! I don't watch paranormal shows, but I do love to read scary stories online from people who wholeheartedly believe they've encountered ghosts, aliens, wendigos, etc. They really freak me out in a delicious way... I am not that superstitious though. When something weird happens, I always assume it's a coincidence or there's a mundane explanation that I haven't figured out yet. But seriously, spooky stuff is so fun. I even encourage superstitious people to tell me about their experience even if I don't believe in what they're saying, because it's still very interesting.

One time I had a coworker who believed in witchcraft and believed that Mercury retrograde (something to do with astrology) was making her cats act crazy. I just played along haha

Rate Yourself on the Terf Scale by BEB in GenderCritical

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Brb making a fantasy rpg based on this.

Halloween Plans? by usehername in Bisexuals

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It's been a while since I gave out candy, but I used to love doing that. Watch scary movies and Halloween specials while waiting for the doorbell to ring and giving out candy. (One time, a very small boy opened our door and just walked right in asking for candy. It was adorable.)

I moved cities to live with my mom in her new house in 2019, and we tried to give out candy that year but it was pouring rain and there were only 2 trick-or-treaters before the rain started. Apparently, everyone does trunk-or-treating now. (I admit it's probably much safer and the kids won't get as tired, but man... Halloween just ain't what it used to be.) We did nothing in 2020 because the pandemic did not put us in the mood for celebrating. We decorated this year but we didn't buy any candy and I'm going to bed asap anyway so, nothing again.

What do you like to do on Halloween?

Halloween Plans? by usehername in Bisexuals

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I work late and then go in the next day fairly early so I'm just gonna pop a melatonin gummy when I get home and hope next year's Halloweekend is more fun.

Pennywise Is Surprisingly Anti-Queer in ‘It Chapter Two' by PatsyStone in LGBDropTheT

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I was obsessed with this movie as a child. I wanted to rename myself Shauna, the name of the daughter who died. I wonder what that says about my relationship with/perception of my mother back then... 😬

Anyone else have extremely good luck finding other bisexuals? by usehername in Bisexuals

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I don't think I have a bi-dar (I've seen it called "bi-fi" haha!) but somehow I always end up getting along well with bisexual co-workers. I only know they're bi because they randomly told me. I guess they felt comfortable enough around me to discuss it. I took all this to mean that we bis are quite common, and that extraverted people feel like they can tell me their business because I don't gossip or start drama in the workplace, so that's why they told me about being bi. I love chatting with other bisexuals, we're all so different but it's still fun to shoot the shit. Once, I even had a mini crush on a bi woman I worked with AND her husband (they worked in different departments). They were both cute. I couldn't help myself! 😂