Both: What do you make of this study on mothers of children with gender identity disorder? by worried19 in GCdebatesQT

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I apologize. I misunderstood the topic it seems :)

Any mods feel free to delete :)

Both: What do you make of this study on mothers of children with gender identity disorder? by worried19 in GCdebatesQT

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As others have pointed out, it is actually unfair to put all of the "blame" on the mother and the father's attitude and own problems should definitely be taken into consideration ... however it is well known that psychotherapy is rooted in blaming the mother.

BUT. I was raised by a mother with BPD and boy, has it taken a toll on me and caused confusion regarding my identity and confusion regarding myself and my relation to the world. Whatever that's worth.

Looking for r/truscum user who was looking for an exchange on offmychest by bellatrixbells in GCdebatesQT

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So you are suggesting having a discussion about how we should change legal/public language in a way that is acceptable to both women/feminists and trans people ? If that is what you are suggesting, either start a thread and tag me if you want me to participate, or I can do it. Check me as present !

All: clearing up confusion over identification by FlanJam in GCdebatesQT

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Equally glad ! Looking forward to other exchanges, and will definitely recognize your username on o/ !

All: clearing up confusion over identification by FlanJam in GCdebatesQT

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I wish you would stop apologizing so much, lol. Again, if you're being genuine, it doesn't sound like you're really that much a part of the problem.

You know, one problem I have personally with my struggles against transactivism is that there are individuals like yourself who seem to be genuinely suffering and these individuals get caught in the crossfire between women and feminists like myself, and TRAs, whether well-meaning or just plain misogynistic assholes. What I get from it is that you suffered greatly, and through a complex set of events, misconceptions and probably self-defense mechanisms, ended up forging up the conclusion in your mind that the solution, or at least part of the solution, was to effectively "become female". I do kind of resent you for that as it means (at least in the past, I can't tell for now) that you view womanhood, meaning my very existence, as somewhat of a concept that you can just opt in. BUT. The thing is I don't resent or hate you personally so much as I resent and hate the social system which has led/encouraged you to believe that this was legitimate and that becoming a woman was one of your options. If we didn't have a system that enforces gendered stereotypes so much and depicted women as a concept or a performance so much, chances are not only that you would have never attempted to transition because there would be no affirmation, but that you would not have suffered like you did over your sex. I suspect that for many (especially self-ID'd and young) trans women it must be extremely frustrating to be told "yeah, you can totally be a woman and it will solve all your issues" (very roughly) only to have the "mean" women and/or feminists say "er, no, feck off" must be incredibly frustrating. Same actually applies to trans men, or non binary females mostly. (A charlatan promises you a magic pill and your mean mum tells you it's actually poison, and you're a teen !?!?? We all know who's evil here !)

I don't wish to make you feel like sh!t personally : you seem pretty understanding already, what's done is done, you seem to have done what had to be done in order for yourself to survive with the options that were presented to you. As far as I've gone down the radfem rabbit hole, one thing has always remained in me and that is the belief that it will serve me no purpose to club down an opponent who not only understands my stance but doesn't actively fight against it. As far as I'm aware, you're not out there demanding women with PTSD get around their trauma to accommodate your sexual desires nor claiming the presidency of a woman's federation.

For the sake of discussion, however, I think it's interesting to point out that you've said "I'd never thought about it" more than once when referring to how your stance about being a woman is actually offensive. Thing is even as a radfem I personally find it difficult to blame individual males, especially ones who experience crippling distress, for not considering offense when noone is confronting them. It is quite telling that you appear to be about my age (late twenties), probably described your GD to many people so far, and no one has ever drawn your attention to how (at least some of) your indicators that you were in fact a girl were not only grounded into sexist stereotypes, but that those would actually be offensive to women. It sounds like (and again, if you feel guilty about it that's on you but I don't personally blame you individually for it) you never considered women's feelings in all of this.. and that says something about how much we are disregarded in that society. This is something I often see in trans identified males : it seems most of them, while some are pretty keen on lecturing us about what womanhood is and means to them, have never actually bothered to sit down and discuss with women to find out what it is and means to us. Rather, it seems many take for granted that the idea of a woman that has been created by and for men throughout history is the right one. But is that really surprising, given the world we live in ? I do appreciate that you don't come off as obnoxious or arrogant about it. I might be frustrated at what you represent politically, but individually I think it's important to recognize that while you have wronged us in some way, your constant apologizing suggests that the wronging came from ignorance rather than blatant disregard : now, SRS and HRT are behind you and all the better if outwardly living as a woman makes you happy. Again, as long as you're not campaigning to reduce our political representation or infringe on our boundaries, attempting to make you feel bad over it isn't gonna help anyone. You may have seen the o/ thread when I got in a row with a black woman who was frustrated about individuals of my community doing "blackface" because they were dressing up as various public personalities, one of which happened to be black. The organizers did not know what blackface was, or that it was wrong. My stance was that, while we can say "er, no, that's offensive, don't do that again", it's hard to blame someone for doing something offensive when they didn't know it was offensive in the first place. The other poster accused me of downplaying racism to defend my community. Think what you will of it, but I think the same basic principle can apply to many male transsexuals : if noone ever tells you that what you are doing is offensive or co-opting, how can you know ? And once it's done and you can prove that you didn't know at the time, what does it serve to just bash on your head when there are actual KKK members and incels around ?

About the online posing, I appreciate that you hear me when I say it's offensive, but I can also understand when you say that being a man provided no relief. Whatever my thoughts on transitioning and social conditioning are, I have definitely heard testimonies from people with crippling GD and can understand the catch 22 quality of the situation. Don't be sorry about comparing experiences. That was your point of view and experience and they were true at the time for you. That matters to your life experience. Plus, there is no way to tell how our experiences are either similar or not without comparing. This is actually useful in trying to get a clearer picture of what's going on. I often come across young trans identifying males on Twitter who are basically begging for simps, that suggests a reason why aside from AGP. Plus you're actually providing us with more proof that women (or at least individuals with a feminine profile) get targeted by older men. That's useful to both our "camps". I also think it's actually wholesome that you would say our experiences are not as comparable "as much as [you] would have liked to believe". That's an expression of honesty which, as someone who underwent a lot of group therapy, suggests a path to finding peace with yourself. (Cheesy, I know)

It's interesting that SRS has made you able to address your issues. I'm definitely putting that in my internal book and it's gonna be on my mind as I keep learning about those issues. Looking forward to your answer or further discussions ! Take Care till then ! They accuse us t*rfs of wanting trans people dead, but we don't. I do care !

All: clearing up confusion over identification by FlanJam in GCdebatesQT

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I must say, although I fond MarkTwainiac's answer a bit harsh and disagree with their interpretation of certain things (I don't really feel like breaking down a three pages long comment, though, but generally I find there is a lack of nuance in the psychological analysis...), it has brought a couple of things t the top of my mind.

Namely, I did feel somewhat insulted/annoyed when you referenced wearing dresses and looking pretty. I understand where you're coming from, but this is so tiring. So many of us hated it and it was forced upon us ; I felt distress for so long because I craved looking all girly and pretty like others and I, just, couldn't. So many of us feel unworthy because of that... Stating that the will to wear dresses and makeup is somehow an indicator of a female gender identity is more or less saying that we are unworthy, or not real girls.

The idea of having older men after you. I get what you're saying about power, and that's part of the pro OnlyFans, etc., rhetoric. The idea that being preyed upon by older men is somehow empowering. I fell for it too at some point in my life. The truth, however, is that it's kind of insulting for many reasons. It's insulting because you are finding power in something that is actually a loss of power for us, something that is often a burden and a source of distress because, and that is the second insulting thing, unlike you, we never have the option that you always had, at least before, which is to take off the dress and the female username and become a man...these sorts of things can hardly become empowering unless you are in a situation of privilege, in that case being male and having the choice. It's also difficult not to notice how you mention being abused by relatives to be molded into a surrogate wife. I don't want you to get into anything too personal on here, but it's difficult not to at least suspect that there is a correlation between severe GD and parental abuse. (BTW I hope you are seeking help for this, sounds like serious shit)

Again, I do have empathy for what you're going through, and you seem like a cool person. But I'm sure you can understand how your history (and pain) clashes with ours.

All: clearing up confusion over identification by FlanJam in GCdebatesQT

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Don't apologize, that was genuinely insightful. The format made it more impersonal and allowed some distance. That sounds pretty much like textbook GD/HSTS to me. I kind of get that. If you're being genuine, you'd probably be the kind of person we can work with. It's actually refreshing.

Looking for r/truscum user who was looking for an exchange on offmychest by bellatrixbells in GCdebatesQT

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At least dinosaurs are extinct so it's not like they care much about their existence being erased 😂😂

Looking for r/truscum user who was looking for an exchange on offmychest by bellatrixbells in GCdebatesQT

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Hey, I'm frankly sorry for the delay. I have my own issues and sometimes just flat out forget that I've engaged in debates... Which is pretty much what happened this week.

I do apologize if there has been a mix-up regarding your identity. I think I remember someone else saying they had looked you up and that you had linked to one of our threads more than once on Reddit. I understood you were one of these MTFs that we see sometimes who want all female only spaces shut down, but it's basically because they're frustrated at not being included. Keep in mind though that O is a radfem space where we—at least I—are pretty much free to speak without filter and we'll naturally have common inside references. I was speaking "about you" in that comment because you were the one being referenced, but I was talking about a type of poster (rage lurker type ?) more than you personally. I don't know if that's clear.

What do you mean, inclusive language ?

All: clearing up confusion over identification by FlanJam in GCdebatesQT

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I've been reading your other thread enquiring about alternative options to alleviate GD, and for what it's worth coming from me, I do feel a lot of empathy towards the suffering you describe.

Let me ask you this though, since I understand you're a TW : if "identifying as a woman" does not describe you... Then what does ? Cause claiming to actually be a woman pretty much takes us back to loveSloane's point above, meaning how does one know that what they feel is indeed what a female feels, no ?

GC: Are there specific alternative treatments to SRS and HRT that have proven effective for successfully treating the most severe forms of gender dysphoria or transsexualism? by [deleted] in GCdebatesQT

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I believe you misunderstood that quote, unless I did. I think what it means is if you make it immoral to point out a given problem, then it disappears. Of course, it hasn't disappeared at all, but that's the entire reason why we criticize that entire ideology where asking questions is deemed immoral.

Why do TRA's continually deny that they are homophobic when they describe our orientations as 'genital preferences'? by Smolders1 in LGBDropTheT

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I don't mean to derail with "but heterosexuals too 😭😭 include us !!!! 😭" but I guess I will to an extent and add that what you just said about not being interested in an amalgamation of mixed-sex characteristics pretty much applies to most people regardless of which side of the fence they find themselves on and which way they look.

I got into an argument with a trans man on Twitter who was giving lesbians crap for not being interested in trans women. After telling me he was into girls he got annoyed when I said to him that to me his being female would be a dealbreaker in my case.

Truth is, as interested as I may be in a trans man who passes, I'm simply not attracted to females. But neother would I be interested in a male who has altered his appearance drastically in order to appear female... It seems logical to me that most people are attracted to a combination of primary and secondary sex characteristics... Doesn't that make sense ?

Actually, good point Rose... by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

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Rose is such an amazingly intelligent person. I just keep watching her videos and every time I'm like wow

Elle Barbara states that "the T should come first" and renames it TGBLQ during interview at PrideMTL by bellatrixbells in LGBDropTheT

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I don't believe so.

Elle Barbara states that "the T should come first" and renames it TGBLQ during interview at PrideMTL by bellatrixbells in LGBDropTheT

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I guess it's in a Cersei Lannister kind of way, when you somehow use your sexuality as trade for... Something ? But that's very much an exceptional circumstance in my mind.

Elle Barbara states that "the T should come first" and renames it TGBLQ during interview at PrideMTL by bellatrixbells in LGBDropTheT

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To be fair the context was Afropride so race is a factor but it was weird how she complained about black men being sexualized but not women... Like wtf ?

Understanding Cisgender. No, really. by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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Technically also if you apply that reasoning cis women are also doing it to affirm their gender ince it's about appearing more attractive, usually more feminine ?

Understanding Cisgender. No, really. by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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"Usually got a vagina/penis" how tf can you be a ciswoman if you don't have a vagina !?!?!?!?

Edit : okay it was a joke ! Phew !

Why Do You Want To "Drop The T"? by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

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Wait did some TRAs actually go out and claim that we masturbate in public toilets ? Cause I can't be sure but I really am sure that it would never cross the mind of any woman I know, like, ever... No offense to guys but masturbating in public is pretty much a male kick, usually.

Does anyone know of a great summary to how the T took upon the community ? by bellatrixbells in LGBDropTheT

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Wow ! Thank you !

Does anyone know of a great summary to how the T took upon the community ? by bellatrixbells in LGBDropTheT

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Seems like a good author to read from, thank you !

Does anyone know of a great summary to how the T took upon the community ? by bellatrixbells in LGBDropTheT

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Are you referring to Selina Todd ?

https://www.bbc.com/news/education-51248684 ?

Does anyone know of a great summary to how the T took upon the community ? by bellatrixbells in LGBDropTheT

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Very interesting, and this ending isn't surprising at all. Thank you !

LBGDropTheT crosspost: Disturbing misogynoir among trans women and their allies by marmorsymphata in GenderCritical

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nah, they're saying "black trans lives matter", so basically black MEN's lives matter. They don't give squat about trans black men.

LBGDropTheT crosspost: Disturbing misogynoir among trans women and their allies by marmorsymphata in GenderCritical

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The "Chad" one is basically Incels defining what a "good" woman is, obviously according to misogynistic stereotypes, and therefore "proving" that transwomen are somehow better women than women... because they comply to gender stereotypes and do what patriarchy says women should do. Says a lot about incels.

LBGDropTheT crosspost: Disturbing misogynoir among trans women and their allies by marmorsymphata in GenderCritical

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Maybe that's just my cis white privilege speaking, but I come from a very diverse background and have changed in locker rooms where Black women would walk around butt naked. Never felt threatened. White transwomen, however, can't say I felt at ease.

In blatant display of misogyny, mod of /r/blatantmisogyny says you must be pro-trans, pro-sex work and pro-kink or else you are a misogynist by [deleted] in GenderCritical

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"We do not support regressive notions of gender" ...but if you're a male with fake boobs wearing stilettos it means you're a woman.

fatal system error

He honestly just wants somewhere to pee safely by Chunkeeguy in GenderCritical

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Or someone needs to grab that leash and hold it tighter

He honestly just wants somewhere to pee safely by Chunkeeguy in GenderCritical

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Go home Kyle, you're drunk.

(Saidit) PEAK TRANS I: Please continue to share your stories!! by Irascible-harpy in GenderCritical

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Nahhh ignorance is strength ;)

(Saidit) PEAK TRANS I: Please continue to share your stories!! by Irascible-harpy in GenderCritical

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Also I think Dennis single handedly peaked half of the people on here hahahah

(Saidit) PEAK TRANS I: Please continue to share your stories!! by Irascible-harpy in GenderCritical

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And this is one of the best pieces I've seen on here so far. Very well put.

Wow, they're trying their damndest to appropriate our communities and erase feminine gender-nonconforming gay/bi men from our own history by KrunchKangaroo in LGBDropTheT

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That person's username is "blacklivesmatteracab".
This is most likely a straight white dude who channels his frustrations through "militantims" but he doesn't even know what he's talking about, he just wants to get into fights.

On r/actuallesbians, penises make lesbian sex easier. How convenient! by fuckupaddams in LGBDropTheT

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Well I'm het so maybe this is a tone deaf question but what kind of a lesbian goes on a sub to find good porno ? Seems kind of... Not very likely.

I've written an article which I'm considering sending as an open letter to Pride MTL after finding out their Festival this year was trans-centered. I'd like some input. by bellatrixbells in LGBDropTheT

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Why thank you ! I must say I obviously have an interest in doing it as a woman even though I'm not LGB... Through threatening you LGB guys, they're also threatening us (which includes you anyways it seems) and taking our place. But it still seems unfair and it pisses me off. I remember being a teen and having lesbian and also gay friends who struggled. I hate that their struggle is being shut down over imagined bigotry. I hate what the T are doing.

I've written an article which I'm considering sending as an open letter to Pride MTL after finding out their Festival this year was trans-centered. I'd like some input. by bellatrixbells in LGBDropTheT

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Hahah oh no ! I'll try to Sum it up in one sentence like "trans are taking over pride, Do something !"

I've written an article which I'm considering sending as an open letter to Pride MTL after finding out their Festival this year was trans-centered. I'd like some input. by bellatrixbells in LGBDropTheT

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Thank you so much for giving me this input ! I'm a literary student and aspiring author, so the tendency to go overboard is definitely sort of a "flaw" of mine in a get to the point context. That was definitely useful and I will work on it keeping those things in mind when doing so. Thank you very much again ! ❤️

Coming out vs "passing" by notdelusional in LGBDropTheT

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That's one of the cringiest things I've ever read.

To all of you trans ladies out there by AdmiralPangolin in GenderCritical

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And pointless too when the other person is just doing their best.

(Saidit) PEAK TRANS I: Please continue to share your stories!! by Irascible-harpy in GenderCritical

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That must have been a while ago ? Almost three years ago a TIM friend I had referred me to it to understand better.
Come to think of it though it's pretty insulting that a person who has lived as a male for theforst twenty years of their life would school be about feminism.

(Saidit) PEAK TRANS I: Please continue to share your stories!! by Irascible-harpy in GenderCritical

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Well I think I like you.

Ok so my crush tells me about this fun sub, I went to check it out. First rule. (He didn't know what it means) by bellatrixbells in GenderCritical

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So basically it's been taken over like half of Reddit.
Thing is though given how small the trans community really is it sounds as though about 19 people are runnit the whole of Reddit hahahah

JK Rowling book sales unaffected by transgender views row by RadioSilence in GenderCritical

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That was genuinely interesting, but for the record I was joking. I was trying to parody the eagerness of TRAs to find ways to make everything ever a hidden message about trans !

Ok so my crush tells me about this fun sub, I went to check it out. First rule. (He didn't know what it means) by bellatrixbells in GenderCritical

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And much more damaging.

To all of you trans ladies out there by AdmiralPangolin in GenderCritical

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My own stance usually relates to my having been close to schizophrenic patients who suffered from severe delusions. Say you have a patient who thinks there's a clown standing next to you. If they've had proper therapy and are on the right meds they might still see the clown, but they know it's not really there. Sure, you shouldn't be catering by validating the existence of the clown, but constantly reminding them that there is no clown is not gonna solve the issue that they still see one and it's just gonna make them feel shitty.
That's my stance with GD.

JK Rowling book sales unaffected by transgender views row by RadioSilence in GenderCritical

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The US is pretty ethnocentric. Personally I think it's sad because I've met many Americans throughout the years who just felt shitty about this. The French do that too though.

Ok so my crush tells me about this fun sub, I went to check it out. First rule. (He didn't know what it means) by bellatrixbells in GenderCritical

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Apparently not.

To all of you trans ladies out there by AdmiralPangolin in GenderCritical

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Hmm I don't think I'm unable to think critically.b It's just that I've dealt with people who had several issues relating to cognitive dissonance and I know it's no use reminding them all the time.

TRAs, allies and lgbTTTT press FAIL to damage JKR's sales. Let the triggering commence! by Uranian in LGBDropTheT

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Apparently you can also buy a "magic wand" that allows you to interact with some stuff there. My almost 30 yo BFF went last year and he was super excited. Not sure this would have made much sense for children.

JK Rowling book sales unaffected by transgender views row by RadioSilence in GenderCritical

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So Jurassic Park is in fact a hidden message aimed at the trans community : sex change is possible, y'all !!

😂😂😂

JK Rowling book sales unaffected by transgender views row by RadioSilence in GenderCritical

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Wow. Just... Wow.

I'm not sure if this means Americans are supposed to be too dense to figure out foreign slang or if they're just too lazy or self centered. None of those interpretations give them much credit. That's just plain sad.

Ok so my crush tells me about this fun sub, I went to check it out. First rule. (He didn't know what it means) by bellatrixbells in GenderCritical

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He basically explained to me that it was probably because this sub wasn't supposed to be political, but for one it kind of is and second... If that is so, why is being a "terf" not okay but being a TRA is not explicitly prohibited ?

Ok so my crush tells me about this fun sub, I went to check it out. First rule. (He didn't know what it means) by bellatrixbells in GenderCritical

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I thought saying my crush meant you were speaking about the person you are crushing on ? It's not ?

Ok so my crush tells me about this fun sub, I went to check it out. First rule. (He didn't know what it means) by bellatrixbells in GenderCritical

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I think it's supposed to be a joke rule

To all of you trans ladies out there by AdmiralPangolin in GenderCritical

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Yes, I totally understand where you're coming from and the different political climate is an extremely important factor to me too. I've also lost the will to compromise even for seemingly reasonable people like those two. But I try not to cave in to that. To me, personally, they have proven to be people that I find worthy of this compromise. You are free to disagree. And I do understand that your position is carefully defined. It doesn't mean it cannot have elements of bad faith. Just because only men can be transwomen does not mean they are not transwomen. You're just choosing to use a terminology that you know they don't like, while TW does tell you everything you need to know. You don't need to clarify that only men can be transwomen on here, that's the whole point of this sub. We know. I find this kind of stubbornness comes across as provocation and is counterproductive.

Fan artist whose entire corpus is built around Rowling's work releases comic depicting her as an annoying hag who gets "what's coming to her", ie assault and it's supposedly funny (translation in comments) by bellatrixbells in GenderCritical

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That's disgusting AF ! I hate how they're all like "i WoN'T LeT hEr RuiN hP fOr mE".
You can disagree about an author and knowingly still support them, but to call them names while still profiting sounds disingenuous at best.

Fan artist whose entire corpus is built around Rowling's work releases comic depicting her as an annoying hag who gets "what's coming to her", ie assault and it's supposedly funny (translation in comments) by bellatrixbells in GenderCritical

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Well Canada is occasionally being referred to as "Tranada" by Rose of Dawn of all people. A lot of people over here get most of their news from the US and just forget that our historical and societal backgrounds are extremely different, especially in the Francophone area where I am. They're spitting it back out without realizing how wildly unapplicable some of their statements are to our communities.
Therefore it makes perfect sense that those woke communities would be drinking the Kool-Aid like lemonade on a hangover. Check out Vancouver, it's a total shitshow.

To all of you trans ladies out there by AdmiralPangolin in GenderCritical

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I wholly agree. They actually seem like pretty cool people. Rose, especially, seems like someone I might actually hang out with.
Yes, both of them seem pretty clear about wanting to be referred to as trans women. They're both truscum, you know, and the slogan of truscum is that being trans matters, implying that it's invalidating to their whole experience to erase the trans part from their identity.
Their goal may differ from ours as they're defending their own interests but they're still pretty much on the team of common sense and coexistence and I believe it can only be good for us. All of us.

To all of you trans ladies out there by AdmiralPangolin in GenderCritical

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Socially there is. That's what I meant and I don't see how it's a slippery slope.

To all of you trans ladies out there by AdmiralPangolin in GenderCritical

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I understand what you're saying. I know this isn't a popular opinion on here, but I do believe that reasonable TIMs could get the courtesy of being referred to as "trans women", since they're not being dicks (pun intended) about it. The reason I'm definitely less inclined to do this is all the other TIMs, but then that's why I'm saying it sucks that those who are actually dysphoric and are just trying to get by are suffering consequences. I don't know if I'm making sense, regardless of whether you agree with me or not.

To all of you trans ladies out there by AdmiralPangolin in GenderCritical

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Well I don't know, I mean we were talking about two specific individuals who are generally being quite reasonable in their requests. I have heard claims that they were in fact being misogynistic and I can kind of get where those claims are coming from, but I don't necessarily agree. Both are quite open to hearing opposing opinions too and they DO stand for the rights of women to speak among themselves. And they are both of the opinion that someone with a penis should stay out of women's intimate spaces. That accounts for something.
And I understand where you're coming from with the LARP thing, but my point was I'm fairly sure a lot of people out there know neither of them and probably take them for women and therefore treat them the same way they would treat one of us. I mean, I myself struggle at times to remember that White is male, and I'm watching a video where they're actively reminding me constantly.
You're free to disagree, and this is the best platform to do so, but I personally don't have much of a problem with either of them, even though Blaire does go by a version of femininity that I do not like myself. It is however very coherent with the kind of femininity you will encounter on actual females in the LA culture where this person is evolving so I'm not sure it would be fair to blame it on them.

To all of you trans ladies out there by AdmiralPangolin in GenderCritical

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It's not lying. Those people are indeed trans. And given that they are males who transitioned into presenting themselves as women, I mean it's just a different thing. They're not women, but in many ways they are not exactly men either. I don't know.

Apparently the google album of all the homophobic tweets has been circulating around the lgbt subs. I posted it myself in askgaybros a few times, especially when they say "no one says/believes x" by xandit in LGBDropTheT

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I don't know. I try to give the benefit of the doubt. Then again I haven't gone through that Redditor's history. But I get where you're coming from.

To all of you trans ladies out there by AdmiralPangolin in GenderCritical

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pun intended ? hahaha

To all of you trans ladies out there by AdmiralPangolin in GenderCritical

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It's basically telling them that their claim, in this case, that they are women, is valid.

To all of you trans ladies out there by AdmiralPangolin in GenderCritical

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I think it's unfair to call them men. They are males, and therefore not women, that is something I'll get behind, but I think calling them trans women instead is a very fair compromise. I mean, given that they go through everyday life as women and are treated as such by most of the people they encounter, they are in fact somewhere in between. They should not take our place, and neither of them wants to, but I think it's kind of in bad faith to just call them men.

To all of you trans ladies out there by AdmiralPangolin in GenderCritical

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I know this is gonna be a very unpopular opinion but come on. There are genuine nice people among their ranks who are also getting slammed for not toeing the Orwellian line, and they do not deserve to be slammed by us as well.
I get where you're coming from, I know you're probably just venting about the Twitter BS, but this is not useful. It's just nasty and it sends the wrong message to outsiders.
Plus like I said before it also ends up targeting the part of the MTF community that is not hostile to us.

Far from being cancelled. 'Harry Potter' still gets new toy releases. And Japan doesn't care for your hurt feelings, no matter how much anime you consume. You're still a sick weirdo in the eyes of Japanese otaku. Stay mad, TRAs. by [deleted] in GenderCritical

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I'm really sorry hahaha when I read it I was like wtf that sounds so ominous. I even thought I had been responding to the wrong person hahaha don't worry that's not my style :)

TERFs, I see TERFs everywhere... by Lyssa in GenderCritical

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It's not ;) but it is dumb and no problem hehe ;)

What is a woman? They stopped responding after I inquired further. by 11mile_house in GenderCritical

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You could've drunk the Kool-Aid, but no. You're so close-minded. Besides, I don't have to justify my existence to you, you're just a stupid female.

/S

TERFs, I see TERFs everywhere... by Lyssa in GenderCritical

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It's pretty straightforward ;) iel reads "yel" or "yelle" :)

It's possibly a Montreal thing though. I'm supposed to be on the left, but like in many other places the liberal left is going overboard with PC.

Fan artist whose entire corpus is built around Rowling's work releases comic depicting her as an annoying hag who gets "what's coming to her", ie assault and it's supposedly funny (translation in comments) by bellatrixbells in GenderCritical

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Short text just before : "Last week a fan asked me what my opinion was about JK Rowling given that I am such a huge fan of HP. I thought I might aswell make that clear : I do NOT support those opinions. The goal of feminism should not be to oppress trans people. I am against her statements, but I do not wanna let her ruin all the joy that HP has brought me and still brings me in my life. Trans women are women, Joanne, get over it.
And now the comic. I'm not sure if this isn't gonna be lost in translation, so I'll just specify that Rowling's tone in this is supposed to be whiny and stubborn.
Square 1 : Yeah, well, this is 2020 ! It's not too much that mentalities are evolving. The [missing word, I think she mentioned in the comments it was supposed to say "persons"] of the LGBTQ+ communities, for me, have — Square 2 : JK, screeching over fence : HEY !! Listen to my opinion on the subject !! Person 1 : FFS Joanne give us a fucking break ! Person 2 : Oh no, not Rowling again ! Person 3 : Don't rich ladies have anything to do at all ?

Square 3 : JK : You have no right to ignore me ! I signed a petition !! Boy : Get the hose.

This person describes themselves as a feminist, and I know she is also a woman.
For some reason, though, when a woman says something about women's rights that doesn't cater to demands of TRAs, she finds it acceptable to depict that woman in a stereotypical, hysterical woman who won't shut up while everyone else is being reasonable and happy... And the punchline is she gets what she deserves, that is she gets assaulted, and spraying her with a hose like a dog is funny. 2020.

Trans women face potential women’s rugby ban over safety concerns by Echoofmiles in GenderCritical

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I like that the trans men can be allowed in the dangerous male division IF THEY SIGN A CONSENT FORM. Indicating that they are agreeing to be put in danger by the MALES in the team.
Are the women on the women's team signing a consent form to indicate that they agree to be put in danger by the MALE who demands entry in the team ?

Trans women face potential women’s rugby ban over safety concerns by Echoofmiles in GenderCritical

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"Also, anthropology has actually changed a lot and now anthropologists say that they can't tell the difference between men and women skeletons anymore" Well, given that they're saying males can be women and females can be men it kind of makes sense that science couldn't tell, but isn't that like a textbook definition of a circular reasoning ? "There are no transwomen with a skeletal structure that cannot be found in a cis woman (somewhere)" "Somewhere" as in like this one woman in that village by the Rockies ?

As for the rest, wow. Your comments are on point too.

TERFs, I see TERFs everywhere... by Lyssa in GenderCritical

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Il assure you those idiotic pronouns are a thing in France and Quebec. Especially "iel" which is a combination of il and elle (he/she) and it's just retarded. I know people who use them and I think the main liberal university here actually encourages/forces teachers to use them if a student demands it.

"As a trans girl with a breeding kink..." by Radfem_the_Hun in itsafetish

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Not being able to do something extremely intimate and difficult that involves another human being, a fucking child, even though it makes you sexually aroused is being oppressed ?

Okay ?

Trans women face potential women’s rugby ban over safety concerns by Echoofmiles in GenderCritical

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Well duh.
I have to say, though, despite the forcibly inclusive language that reduces us to "cis" again, this is a step in the right direction. Those are good news and reassuring to me.

Trans women face potential women’s rugby ban over safety concerns by Echoofmiles in GenderCritical

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I think that's H Mousey, not Mouncey, no ?

"As a trans girl with a breeding kink..." by Radfem_the_Hun in itsafetish

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Not being able to do something extremely intimate and difficult that involves another human being, a fucking child, even though it makes you sexually aroused is being oppressed ?

Okay ?

"As a trans girl with a breeding kink..." by Radfem_the_Hun in itsafetish

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Not being able to do something extremely intimate and difficult that involves another human being, a fucking child, even though it makes you sexually aroused is being oppressed ?

Okay ?

"As a trans girl with a breeding kink..." by Radfem_the_Hun in itsafetish

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The dark side clouds everything.

"As a trans girl with a breeding kink..." by Radfem_the_Hun in itsafetish

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MTF : gets smelly discharge from neovag

Also MTF : OmG gEtTiNg My PeRiOd fOr ThE FiRsT TiMe sO eXciTeD FeLLoW SLuTs

Handmaidens : Good for you !! UwU

Me : Errr....

NSFW. Why is it that transgenders use such male pornified language to refer to their bodies? by LoganBlade in itsafetish

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To "safe4trans" : Cool story, bro.
Meanwhile, my female tits have randomly doubled in size and now I need a checkup.
Also OP I think you know the answer is cause for them females only exist in porn.

Self-aware. Imposter syndrome warranted. by LoganBlade in itsafetish

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As a francophone evolving in an English speaking world I'm pretty annoyed with the expression "femme". Like, femme literally means a woman in French. In French (and in Creole communities, correct me potential Haitians if I'm wrong) when we say that a woman is "trop femme", it literally means she is "such a woman" and it's always in a sexual way. Being "femme" is basically being the "correct" way of being female, that is sexy and hot and basically available.
So I kinda get what it means in English, but I find it fucking offensive.

HEE HEE totally normal right gals? Note the wall of anime children by [deleted] in itsafetish

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UwU

HEE HEE totally normal right gals? Note the wall of anime children by [deleted] in itsafetish

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Well that's not creepy at all.

Meanwhile transbians continue to take over reddit. Now they're starting to talk about their girlcocks on r/AreTheStraightsOK , despite nobody bringing them into the conversation. by throwaway_6969420420 in itsafetish

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Well if the lie is big enough and you keep repeating it, eventually people will believe it.

I know that line was misattributed, but I though we were supposed to be the Nazis here ? o)

Meanwhile transbians continue to take over reddit. Now they're starting to talk about their girlcocks on r/AreTheStraightsOK , despite nobody bringing them into the conversation. by throwaway_6969420420 in itsafetish

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I like that the person who took the screenshot was also downvoting the whole misogynistic/homophobic crap hahahaha

Apparently the google album of all the homophobic tweets has been circulating around the lgbt subs. I posted it myself in askgaybros a few times, especially when they say "no one says/believes x" by xandit in LGBDropTheT

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Thank you for the link. I obviously disagree that "no trans person" does that since, well, some obviously do, but this person is quite clearly trying to be reasonable and from what I've seen they're actually speaking for a significant portion of the trans community.
We're living in a fucked up world. I feel sorry for the reasonable trans folks who're being bundled up with the madness.

Summation of recent jewish controversy on Saidit. by kokolokoNightcrawler in memes

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To quote The Dark Knight : "Friends ? Have you not met this guy ?"

HAHAHA

TRAs were angry when r/gendercritical existed. Now they're mad s/gendercritical exists. It's almost like banning subs doesn't delete people from existence by [deleted] in GenderCritical

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They would be thrown in the goddamn loony bin is what would happen to them.
Transition used to be a compromise that a patient went to along with therapy because is often no curing GD. Now it's being presented as a magical cure all and it's creepy AF.