Detrans / desist / resist - Anyone here ever identify as trans, or seriously consider doing so? by reluctant_commenter in LGBDropTheT

[–]Wos290 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Spending a lot of time in online lgbt spaces eventually made me start hrt and I got to a point where I was considering social transition. For me it was the fact that I always hated male gender roles, also lots of insecurity because there is a lot of fetishisation of youth between gays and I believed that once I would reach early 20s noone would like me / be attracted to me anymore unless I started hormones.

I realised that gender roles are bullshit and that your birth sex doesnt have to say/decide anything about you. So I obviously never socially transitioned because the concept seems stupid to me, I was born male therefore am.

I'm still taking hormones and been for the last 4 years though so idk.

Bringing back gender nonconformity by HelloMomo in LGBDropTheT

[–]Wos290 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

As much as I hate differentiating the two terms at all, it's called gender nonconformity because it's related to gender, not sex. If you are an intersex male, present in a traditionally masculine leaning way (in ways that you can decide) and accept male social roles then you are gender conforming. My point is that it has to do with gender characteristics and not sex characteristics. Besides most klinefelters males are still visibly male.

Because frankly, I do not believe putting on a comical accent and being "submissive in bed" is "feminine."

If by comical accent you mean the 'stereotypical' gay accent then I don't believe anyone is putting that up on purpose.

And true, those things are not 'feminine', but rather they are traditionally unmasculine and that equals gender nonconformity. And rather than submissivity in bed a way better example would be a way of dressing, presentation etc.

homosexual transsexuals are NOT gender non conforming

When they are already socially transitioned then I agree with you. But pre transition they (usually) are gender nonconforming.

Bringing back gender nonconformity by HelloMomo in LGBDropTheT

[–]Wos290 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Being intersex has nothing to do with gender (non)conformity though.

Somehow you start out your post by implying that intersex = gnc, which doesn't even make sense. Then you continue to say that there is no correlation between gnc and homosexuality, because intersex people have the same rate of homosexuality as others(???)

Most intersex people I've met are indeed heterosexual but at the same time they are also gender conforming so I really dont know what point you were trying to make.

As a GNC homosexual myself I on the other hand really do think homosexuality and being gnc are correlated in a lot of people (not all ofcourse). Atleast in my experience most feminine acting men I've met were indeed homosexual. Meanwhile I struggle to remember a single feminine acting het guy.

Any other Feminine GNC Men here? (Questions to ask) by Kai_Decadence in LGBDropTheT

[–]Wos290 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yep, I've noticed this myself as well. You should really check out the Youtube Channel GNC Centric, give her livestreams a watch as well as her videos on trans talk. She really goes in depth with how this stuff really messes with you.

Thanks, I'll take a look. I'm glad this saidit exists because it seems that lately any places that commits 'wrongthink' just gets banned.

And well, my life hasnt always been that great.

I grew up in a shitty countryside village and struggled with suicidal ideation and self harm for a big part of my teens. Not much else to be said about that part of my life honestly. It wasn't until I went through my worst and moved to the city for uni till I started slowly getting my shit together.

That's also when I started dating for the first time. My back then still terrible confidence and the fact that my first romantic experience was with someone who liked feminity is prolly the biggest reason I started hormones, because I believed noone would really love me otherwise. I was also already aware of people on online forums self-medding through the internet.

Anyway, as of now I live happily together with my boyfriend of 3 years. My social life is currently not so great because of corona, but in the long run I can't complain as I've met a lot of brilliant people during the past few years.

As for the obstacles, not much I can recall other than my shitty teens. I'd like to think that it's partly because I've become a more resilient person and don't let many things get under my skin too, also that I know how to deal with people better.

Any other Feminine GNC Men here? (Questions to ask) by Kai_Decadence in LGBDropTheT

[–]Wos290 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Life is okay.

The truth is I've had problems of my own related to gender identity and spent a lot of time in online lgbt circles during my late teens. I guess because of this I eventually started using hormones and have been taking them since...

Unlike the woke crowd I have never really believed gender and sex are two different things. There is not even a word for gender in my language, just like in probably 99% of all languages other than english lol.

I also can't see how my sex should prevent me in acting the way I want and just being myself.

What I've noticed on the other hand, is that lots of transpeople on the internet somehow feel like they can't act like themselves unless they transition. That is, for them the thought of being gnc as AGAB is somehow less fathomable than actually changing gender. That's how you get the stereotype of a bearded masculine acting man suddenly coming out as a 'woman', doing 180 degree turn in personality and acting like a caricature of feminity. I've never understood this and the only answer I ever got was that it's because of 'gender dysphoria'. The funny thing is though that noone has ever explained to me what exactly gender dysphoria is in a coherent and understandable way.