Immigration leads to more innovation, a better educated workforce and is all around a VERY good thing.

Vegethu · 2020-07-28T13:32:28+00:00

If you say that Swedes are OBJECTIVELY more beautiful, outside of cultural preferences, then do you have any data to substantiate your claim?

Vegethu · 2020-07-28T12:32:19+00:00

I disagree. I would be happy living an amish life.

What I mean is that there are other factors to consider, such as national happiness, corruption, public health, mental health etc. Also, i dont want to sound rude but it doesn't matter much what YOU would prefer what matters is what the data says about the country as a whole. Also YOU might be happy with that lifestyle but that's not most people.

You are defining American as "everyone, who lives in the US". My definition is different. I believe, you are not some root-less individual. I believe your identity is interconnected with your surroundings. Your family, your neighbors, your church, etc. all these elements shape your identity. You can not see some person as a pure individual - at the very least, he has a family and they have influenced his life and development.

Literally the definition of being an American depends on you being a citizen and literally nothing else. Also you didn't confront my original argument.

The Somali guy might practice the islamic religion and has other cultural traditions and practices than the Englishman

You could say the same about Catholicism, Judiasm, Protestantism, Christianity and there used to be conflict (mainly because the dominant religious group saw the existence of these groups as a threat to its existence); yet there is no longer any conflict. In fact, Christainity, Judaism and Islam are all related they're all Abrahamic religions that originated in the Middle East and East Africa. Also not all immigrants are non-Christians more than half of Nigerian Americans are Christians and follow Christian values. Mexicans and other Hispanic immigrants are SO Christian that they're Catholic. The vast majority of immigrants coming into the country are of some Christian denominations, and most of those that aren't come from Abrahamic religions.

For someone, that wants to preserve some sort of cultural heritage, migration of people from other cultural spheres, is obviously problematic.

If you want to preserve your culture, the existence of other cultures would not get in the way of that. You can still practice your religion, live amongst white people if you want and pass those values down to your kids. No one is saying don't do these things. You can do all of these things and still have Somalian Muslims exist in the country.

I believe todays culture is worse than the one we had in earlier times.

By what netric can you determine this? By what standard? And how far back would you go?

Sure, you might criticise some elements of Viking behavior. I personally am still sad to see, that they are not Vikings any longer. No, I do not want them to raid and rape, but my understanding of Viking culture is rooted in their pre-christian spirituality. I do not see anything wrong in people worshipping their ancestors or some tribal deities in sacred groves.

I think it's a good thing that Vikings no longer exist precisely because of their slavery, rape, misogyny, homophobia, intolerance, violence, terrorism, lack of empathy or compassion, and all around disgusting behavior. No sensible human being would rather live in those times than now.

Vegethu · 2020-07-28T08:22:59+00:00

disagree. This is based on experience, it is obvious certain

You do understand personal doesnt account for data, right? And also who people find attractive is highly subjective, i know its a meme but it's true. Just because you dont find someone attractive doesnt mean they're objectively unattractive

Vegethu · 2020-07-28T08:20:07+00:00

ration may have positive economic impact when we are t

Actually it doesnt account just for European immigrants, this data includes immigrants from Mexico, the Middle-East and other non-European countries. Immigration only negatively impacts High School drop outs and only by a marginal amount. I did'nt say there were no negatives but they definitely dont outweigh the benefits.

Tons of immigrants from non-white countries benefit this country in massive ways. Just look at Nigerians. According to the United Census Bureau, 4 percent of Nigerians hold a PhD. degree compared to 1% of the general US population. Nigerian Americans are a highly educated and well-skilled group of people and perhaps one of the more prosperous ethnic groups in the US.

Vegethu · 2020-07-28T08:13:02+00:00

hat about other things like social trust? How do you calculate their worth

I was actually hoping someone would bring up culture and social cohesion. The was an enormous meta-analysis of 90 cross-sectional studies analyzing relationship between diversity & social cohesion. Vast majority of studies on the subject fail to prove the relationship between two variables. In fact, study finds positive relationship between inter-ethnic contact & trust in ethnically heterogeneous communities. Only contrary data shows small-scale (intra-neighborhood) trust suffers with ethnic heterogeneity in some circumstances, and even then only in America. Plurality of data does not support - and largely contradicts - assertion that diversity hurts social cohesion.

Here is the meta-analysis that I am referring to: https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.google.com/url?q%3Dhttps://sci-hub.tw/https://www.annualreviews.org/doi/full/10.1146/annurev-soc-071913-043309%2523article-denial%26amp;sa%3DD%26amp;ust%3D1595926849270000%26amp;usg%3DAOvVaw0wrWqGprzyjySQMpSr3wiJ&sa=D&ust=1595926849392000&usg=AFQjCNHsz5W7Ukdy1HgQAJGLCUhG3QmiPA

I am not sure what you mean when you say "What is the value of an identity in USD?". I'm assuming you mean what does American identity compare to economic prosperity? I agree with the sentiment that economy shouldn't be the only means by which we assess the health of the economy, but it is damn important. As for American identity, i still dont fully understand. What is American identity? It seems to mean different things to diffrent people. An American living in Manhattan might as well come from a different culture or country as an American from Dallas. They would probably disagree much on what it means to be American, but theyre still both American.

Cultures change constantly and that's not a bad thing, in fact that's a good thing and a sign of progress. The Nordics arent Vikings anymore, in fact quite the opposite if I'm not mistaken, and that's a very good thing.

Vegethu · 2020-07-26T19:16:32+00:00

A few questions here from me and critiques.

Why shouldn't there be outrage over police brutality? If this is a country of freedom how can anyone allow police brutality?

24 Hr anti-white TV? Can you prove this?

Diversity is of benefit though, especially economically. I do have sources on this fact, what proof do you have to back your claim.

What good justification is there for oppossing diversity. Many Republicans have called out against ANTIFA and BLM, and diversity such as Trump and Carlson to name a few.

And lastly, who are "the elites", and what are they doing?

Vegethu · 2020-07-26T12:54:25+00:00

This is factually untrue, you as a white person are closer to your mixed race child genetically than you are to some other white. You would have to demonstrate that this absurd claim is the case.

Vegethu · 2020-07-26T18:41:49+00:00

Just go to a psychiatric ward, my dude.

Vegethu · 2020-07-26T12:47:43+00:00

Theres no such thing as forced diversity

Vegethu · 2020-07-28T11:52:38+00:00

You haven't for why you think my citation is inaccurate. Can you actually confront my argument please?

On the topic of your study, are you aware that my comment is reffering to the US alone? Your study includes the US as well but even goes so far as to say that the results of immigration were different between the 2 countries. Also you have to aware that your study admits that much works remains to be done when assessing the impact of immigration on the labour force and was published in 2004 whereas my study a far more recent study.

Vegethu · 2020-07-28T11:29:50+00:00

You do know that qouting YT videos don'y count as sources, right? Can you empirically prove that white people hate themselves?

Vegethu · 2020-07-28T11:26:11+00:00

Tatu Vanhanen in his book Ethnic Conflicts: Their Biological Roots in Ethnic Nepotism analyzed 176 countries in period from 2003-2011. He found that Ethnic diversity has 0.812 correlation with ethnic conflict. Meaning that more diverse countries tend to have more violent conflicts in them.

The issue I have with Tatu Vanhanen and even his colleague, Richard Lynn, is that the methodology they use to come to their conclusion is deeply FLAWED. When comparing IQ between Whites and blacks Lynn himself admitted he used mentally retarded, disease ridden, and starving Africans as a control instead of controlling for Africans with comprable health and environment to Europeans.

There have been many criticisms of Lynn and his work over the years. The main critiques come from Jelte Wicherts and his team of Dutch researchers. The argument is mostly that Lynn uses samples from diseased, starving, illiterate, not smart enough, or otherwise disqualifiable African populations, and that this understates the true IQ of Sub-Saharan Africa. Jelte Wicherts criticized Lynn’s selection of studies. He argued that Lynn included studies with developmentally disabled, with people who didn’t understand the test, with people who have HIV, malaria and parasites. Lynn’s response was basically that those things represent black Africa, and to exclude those studies is to, in essence, exclude the problems of Africa. And Lynn and Wicherts went back and forth on that.

Again, the probable with the methodology of people like Lynn and Vanhanen is that much of their racial theories depend on the Race and IQ issue but their controls for these citations are deeply flawed.

Finally, there are studies, often experiments, which look at how well small groups perform. Hulsheger and Anderson (2009) meta-analyzed 8 studies and found background diversity correlated at -.133 (95% CI: -.318:+.052) with innovation.

I clicked this link and it just gave me an error. So i Googled it. \it says nothing about diversity, perhaps you could spare another link. When i googled it it said nothing about diversity unless i googled the wrong study.

Williams and O’Reilly (1998) came to this conclusion in their review of the literature:

I wish you would have cited something more recent than 1998, but ok.

Having read this source you've cited it seems to gibve a very nuanced answer to the question of diversity.

In the conclusion of the study it is argued that heterogeneous groups ALSO struggle with much emotional conflict that impedes group functionality. The study you cited iutself claims that diversity is a "important social value in our society".

This study acknowlegeds the drawbacks of diversity but advocates for organisations to minimise the negatives and exploit the positives. It doesnt make the claim that there are no positives.

Also this study accounts for several types of diversity that being diversity in age, backroud and sex. Unless I'm missing it there doesnt seem to be anything here about Racial or cultural diversity, if it is here. Can you point what pages or sections I may have missed?

Also it seems the study (under the heading "defining Diversity") indicates that prejudice and biases about a particular group. So my solution to the issue is to mitigate the amount of biases the group majority may have towards the group minority.

Moreover in this study that you've cited under the heading "Information and decision making" on page 86-87 it clearly states:

Information and decision-making theories proposes that variants in group compositions can have a direct positive and increase in skills, abilities, information, and the knowledge that diversity brings, independent of what happens in the group process.

This study doesnt seem to say in totality what i think you're advocating for in fact just the opposite.

Vegethu · 2020-07-28T10:11:02+00:00

Could you elaborate please?

Vegethu · 2020-07-28T10:10:28+00:00

They don't specifically oppose diversity itself.

Trump and Tucker Carlson dont call out diversity? But they do. Thats why he got elected.

Outrage over it is one thing, but it shouldn't have the anti-white lie connected to it of "systemic racism."

There is a wealth of evidence provic systemic racism though. How is it anti-white to point out the facts?

Generally they are people of significant power, influence, and/or wealth.

Who and how do they operate/ Can you prove any of this empirically or is it just a conspiracy theory?

All the media supports a non-white future for whites. CNN, MSNBC, and Fox all denounce white wellbeing as racist while promoting non-white interests.

Citation needed. Prove it.

Vegethu · 2020-07-28T10:06:22+00:00

Not really. Have read any of these?

Vegethu · 2020-07-28T10:05:51+00:00

Now here are my sources, enjoy:

Here is an enormous meta-analysis of 90 cross-sectional studies analyzing relationship between diversity & social cohesion. Vast majority of studies on the subject fail to prove the relationship between two variables. In fact, study finds positive relationship between inter-ethnic contact & trust in ethnically heterogeneous communities. Only contrary data shows small-scale (intra-neighborhood) trust suffers with ethnic heterogeneity in some circumstances, and even then only in America. Plurality of data does not support - and largely contradicts - assertion that diversity hurts social cohesion.

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.google.com/url?q%3Dhttps://sci-hub.tw/https://www.annualreviews.org/doi/full/10.1146/annurev-soc-071913-043309%2523article-denial%26amp;sa%3DD%26amp;ust%3D1595926849270000%26amp;usg%3DAOvVaw0wrWqGprzyjySQMpSr3wiJ&sa=D&ust=1595926849392000&usg=AFQjCNHsz5W7Ukdy1HgQAJGLCUhG3QmiPA

Here is a study which tested around 200 students in a trust based experiment and compared results from diverse groups and homogenous groups .Finds no statistically significant negative relationship between diversity and social cohesion. https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.google.com/url?q%3Dhttps://scholar.harvard.edu/files/laibson/files/measuring_trust.pdf%26amp;sa%3DD%26amp;ust%3D1595926849272000%26amp;usg%3DAOvVaw1c0X9NWCvoQUs354zHEHEy&sa=D&ust=1595926849392000&usg=AFQjCNFGAnUf85EvW_yhvdv-scmTk8NF2g

Longitudinal study comparing the change in social cohesion over time in an area which experienced a large increase in diversity with a comparative control which didn’t. The two areas did not differ significantly in how their levels of social cohesion changed over time, suggesting the increased level of diversity had no statistically significant impact on social cohesion.

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.google.com/url?q%3Dhttp://www.fisherwilliamson.com/downloads/MPSA040508.FINAL2.pdf%26amp;sa%3DD%26amp;ust%3D1595926849273000%26amp;usg%3DAOvVaw0LPq6BMfwKCtHdAaBqNlxF&sa=D&ust=1595926849393000&usg=AFQjCNE_WdFFh1xCoyNA03a8um1yyvltFw

Another longitudinal study analyzing changes in trust in 22 European countries between the years 2002 and 2010. Study suggests immigration often leads to decrease in social trust, but results were heavily affected by ethnic polarization & economic stability. With low polarization and a good economy, immigration was shown to actually increase social trust. Results suggest it isn’t the diversity of immigrants which lessens trust, but rather the economic and political context in which they arrive. https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.google.com/url?q%3Dhttps://sci-hub.tw/https://academic.oup.com/sf/article-abstract/93/3/1211/2332107?redirectedFrom%253Dfulltext%26amp;sa%3DD%26amp;ust%3D1595926849274000%26amp;usg%3DAOvVaw2vUlhKJEOTj2vmqdQAhHC5&sa=D&ust=1595926849393000&usg=AFQjCNHIFDPXMHFL3Eh2vOIMbC6DSVTyVA

Extensive summary on the effects immigration has on the US economy, with sources “While some policymakers have blamed immigration for slowing U.S. wage growth since the 1970s, most academic research finds little long run effect on Americans’ wages”. “The available evidence suggests that immigration leads to more innovation, a better educated workforce, greater occupational specialization, better matching of skills with jobs, and higher overall economic productivity”. “Immigration also has a net positive effect on combined federal, state, and local budgets”. “Economists generally agree that the effects of immigration on the U.S. economy are broadly positive”. https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.google.com/url?q%3Dhttps://budgetmodel.wharton.upenn.edu/issues/2016/1/27/the-effects-of-immigration-on-the-united-states-economy%26amp;sa%3DD%26amp;ust%3D1595926849268000%26amp;usg%3DAOvVaw1AcgI0wFNZMlR4VELcmaJv&sa=D&ust=1595926849391000&usg=AFQjCNFVRJvL44FvaUke4WKWHOjqEZzPNg

National Bureau of Economic Research paper on the effects immigration has on wages in the United States Study contends previous analyses on the relationship between immigration and wages falsely assumed perfect labor substitutability between immigrants and native workers of similar education levels, distorting results Research shows average American wage RISES due to immigration, both short-term and long-term Only native demographic whose wages drop are High School dropouts who suffer a decrease in wages of approximately ~2% short-term, alleviating to ~1.1% over time. Study finds new immigration does severely impact wages of prior immigrants, suggesting lack of substitutability with *natives. Overall, vast majority of American workers’ wages increase from immigration, High School dropouts (<10% of population) experience a slight decrease which alleviates with time (and there is evidence that immigration may increase native High School graduation rates, too).

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.google.com/url?q%3Dhttps://www.nber.org/papers/w12497.pdf%26amp;sa%3DD%26amp;ust%3D1595926849265000%26amp;usg%3DAOvVaw0XFwg6LvZEpPGVoQkGjrwa&sa=D&ust=1595926849390000&usg=AFQjCNFg_8zutE0cetWXdwIfckSOK_nnHA

Vegethu · 2020-07-28T10:05:12+00:00

ases psychotic experiences

!WHEW! There is a lot of misinformation going on in your comment, so much in fact I wonder if you 've even read any of the stuff you've cited.

Let's go ;)

From Bloomberg is a study that these were based off simulations and not reality, the article itself says so "this is the result of computer simulations of reality, not reality itself. Our identities, social relationships and actual neighborhoods are far more complex than simulations can get at." Society is far more complex than just a simulation. Moreover, in the end the article advocates for diversity claiming we should bridge different communities, it even cites Robert Putnam who has advocated for diversity calling "bridging" social capital.

Not only is this article based off of a simulation it only accounts for small neighborhoods, even the article advocates for diversity at a city level. And even the article views segregation as a bad thing.

These study you linked about diversity increases psychotic experience doesnt suggest what you seem to think it suggests. The English woman who made the study herself said, when asked about her study said "When people live in ares that are more ethnically diverse the outcomes can be a bit better" She says the reason this could be is because of better social support and better social networks. In other words SOCIAL COHESION. But don't take my word for it, here is the English women who ACTUALLY made the study explaining what it means: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bxv9MeSfjNM

No where does it say that there's a causal link between diversity and mental illness.

In this study, they looked at black african people and South East Asian people and concluded that there's actually "a reduced mortality risk in psychosis relative to white British people" and goes on to say that the health outcomes in ethnically diverse comunities BECAUSE OF SOCIAL COHESION. But don't take my word for it, here is the English women who ACTUALLY made the study explaining what it means in layman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bxv9MeSfjNM

You posted the same source twice in a row.
You posted the same source again (now 3x in a row)
I dont know how to tell you this but this source you cited doesn't make the claim you think it makes. Let's go through it together ;)

"Diversity reduces voter registration, political efficacy, charity, and number of friendships . Source: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1467-9477.2007.00176.x/abstract "

Though diversity does have certain drawbacks, these drawback only exist in the SHORT TERM. The benefits of diversity are plentiful in the long term and I think that as a society we should make plans that benefit us LONG TERM.

I will qoute the abstract YOU cited:

"In the long run immigration and diversity are likely to have important cultural, economic, fiscal, and developmental benefits...In the long run, however, successful immigrant societies have overcome such fragmentation by creating new, cross‐cutting forms of social solidarity and more encompassing identities. Illustrations of becoming comfortable with diversity are drawn from the US military, religious institutions, and earlier waves of American immigration."

You cited the same study (again)
This website references a book written by Robert Putnam which many right wingers have either knowingly or unknowingly misintepreted what Putnam actually claims. I'll explain to you why Putnam isn't saying what you think he's saying:

I'll link you a video of Putnam himself talking about the PROS and CONS of immigration. Robert Putnam claims asserts that immigration does have benefits for countries. A disproportanate number of America's Nobel Prize winners are either immigrants or children of immigrants; Same goes for many of our best Artists, musicians, etc. Putnam does claim that the costs are only in the SHORT TERM and that we should diminish those negative costs and extract the MASSIVE benefits of immigration which are LONG TERM.

Here is an interview where Robert Putnam himself elaborates on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grAAOjdvcrI

In conclusion: The source that the article is citing doesnt make the claim you THINK it claims. Robert Putnam makes the assertation that the positives outweigh the costs when it comes to immigration and diversity, see above link.

Again the source doesnt claim what you think it claims:

First of all the first sentence clearly states that, "Research suggests that greater ethnic density correlates with worse health among African Americans but better health among Hispanic Americans" - so not for both groups, BETTER HEALTH FOR HISPANICS. So youve misqouted your own source.

In the study (THE FIRST FUCKING PARAGRAPH) the study claims that the reason for this was because the Black population was older than the Hispanic population. Once they controled for that they concluded that, "These conflicting patterns may arise from Hispanic American samples being older than African American samples. We found that among 2367 Mexican American and 2790 African American participants older than 65 years, ethnic density predicted lower rates of cardiovascular disease and cancer, adjusting for covariates, showing that the health benefits of ethnic density apply to both minority communities."

So you either dishonestly represented your data or you didn't even read it to begin with, either way I am sorely disappointed.

"Diversity primarily hurts the dominant ethnic group. Source: http://www.theindependentaustralian.com.au/node/57"

When I opened the link it gave me a 404 error so...could you link another source please?

"Ethnic diversity reduces concern for the environment. Source: http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10640-012-9619-6"

Good to see a right winger who cares about the environment. The obvious solution to this seems to be education, not just "slow down immigration".

There is definitely a lot of misinformation going on in your comment. I've already debunked your 1st 10 sources, I doubt the rest will be any better. I suggest you actually read and proof check the data and sources you cite before you post them especially before you make false claims about them so confidently. But I am open to any specific sources you may have that you are CERTAIN support the things you say. I'd be more than happy ;)

Vegethu · 2020-07-26T19:27:23+00:00

I am a liberal who believes in Egalitarianism and Anti-Racism. I do have sources if you are interested. The vast majority of progressives I've heard talk about this subject always back their claims with Sociological studies and analysis, not the Right though. In fact, the Right tends to make emotionally based arguments and appeal to instinctive biases. That's why most Right Wingers tend to be anti-intellectual.

Vegethu · 2020-07-26T18:59:30+00:00

Hollywood isnt really filled with leftists but with liberals like Nolan and Todd Phillips and even Tarantino. Asking for more conservative media is a really difficult request since conservatives (as a whole) aren't very creative.

Not to say there aren't leftists however, some of the best most innovative media has outright obvious leftist overtones like Mr. Robot. Conservatives are just too uncreative. Musically, in terms of Film and Television, art and so on.

Vegethu · 2020-07-26T18:44:52+00:00

cute

Vegethu · 2020-07-26T14:34:02+00:00

No, there is no data available to back this claim.

Vegethu · 2020-07-26T13:44:51+00:00

Triggered much??

Vegethu · 2020-07-26T13:41:54+00:00

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.google.com/url?q%3Dhttps://www.sentencingproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Black-Lives-Matter.pdf%26amp;sa%3DD%26amp;ust%3D1595752943742000%26amp;usg%3DAOvVaw3TYpnwXnCOyTM2niJCxr3T&sa=D&ust=1595752943854000&usg=AFQjCNEXrSDr60sONKG94_DPBqjmwH_0ww

This is an Extensive document on racial biases in our criminal justice system. Studies seem to indicate about 61-80% of black overrepresentation in prisons can be explained by higher black crime rates, with the unexplained portion largely attributable to racial bias. Remember - the factors which lead to disproportionate criminality amongst black Americans are also in large part a product of racial bias. Underfunded public programs, redlining, generational poverty, bad schooling, and myriad other factors which influence criminality can also be traced to racial bias.
Students and police officers participated in tests to determine levels of racial bias and perception of innocence. Black boys as young as 10 are more likely to be considered criminal or untrustworthy, and more likely to face police violence. Police officers were tested on dehumanization of blacks by comparing people of different races to animal groups. Police who engaged in higher levels of dehumanization were more likely to use violence against black children.

Here is the source to support my claim, and iI know you're impose some JQ conspiracy shit or something but here it is...

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.google.com/url?q%3Dhttps://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2014/03/black-boys-older%26amp;sa%3DD%26amp;ust%3D1595752943762000%26amp;usg%3DAOvVaw3KS60eJCShWf-iEpbTjuxD&sa=D&ust=1595752943862000&usg=AFQjCNENwvfHnMfDYbAMsSArnlaKQK7vQg

Vegethu · 2020-07-26T13:35:51+00:00

Is there an actual argument you have here or are you just triggered?

Vegethu · 2020-07-26T13:31:59+00:00

Anecdotes are not data. And the "source" sited is bullshit.

Vegethu · 2020-07-26T13:29:01+00:00

ucking problems.

But you are more racist the article that was cited here is unreliable.

Vegethu · 2020-07-26T13:25:45+00:00

Sorry, sweety. This isnt a Study or a Source this is just a bullshit picture of a graph, try learning what the word data means. This aint it chief.

Vegethu · 2020-07-26T13:22:28+00:00

personal experience. Impossible to deny.

Personal experience is not actual data.

Vegethu · 2020-07-26T13:18:51+00:00

Where does this website get their data? Every link I clicked just refers back to another article by the same website.

No data. No statistical reference.

Is this where the alt-right gets their "facts". This company is known for being a bias Republican outlet and is therefor unreliable data. Rasmussen conducts its polls in a way that excluds the majority of the population from answering.

Literaly on Conservative and other right wing dipshits take Rasmussen Reports seriously. Sorry try again cause this aint it Chief.

Vegethu · 2020-07-26T13:04:28+00:00

What geneticists call race is very different from what you would call race. From a genetic stand point the product of an Irish person and Polish person would be mixed race. Same as a black person and a white person since the genetic differences are simply phenotypical.

Vegethu · 2020-07-26T12:58:39+00:00

You haven't made an argument as to why people shouldnt race mix other than an instinctive fear you have.

Vegethu · 2020-07-26T12:41:36+00:00

There is no data or any objective standard to say that one race is more attractive than another. There are objective "beauty" standards that exist in nature but none that have anything to do with race.

Vegethu