Woman on r/gaytransguys wants to remain a woman but still date gay men

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2022-01-12T19:24:21+00:00

most gay men I know IRL are mostly into men, but not 100% exclusively, and most seem to ID as queer/gay these days for that reason.

Bisexual. We call men who are into both men and women bisexuals. Learn the fucking word.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2022-01-01T09:22:28+00:00

I'm assuming appreciate here means have sex with.

Of course it does. It always does. "Why does no one want to sleep with me!! I am glorious! GLO-RI-OUS!! Appreciate me! Desire me! Me! ME! MEE!!!"

There's a reason these people turn to attention whoring.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-12-31T07:42:59+00:00

"Better sleep with me or I'll call you names."

I'd say "fuck him", but in this case it's actually "don't fuck him".

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-12-19T16:44:32+00:00

1.6k comments, 400 quote tweets. <290 likes.

"Yes, police? ... Yes, I'd like to report a killing. ... No, no murder. It was justified."

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-12-12T07:23:50+00:00

Oh, fuck. The thing that never happens, happened? AGAIN?

Quick! Someone post this to r/asktransgender so that those people can reassure us that it didn't happen, because it never happens.

(Yeah, I'm gonna keep riding this joke.)

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-12-10T16:10:24+00:00

I'm afraid not. There are people out there (and on this site) who actually, literally believe stuff like that.

Occasionally a healthy reminder so we don't forget old homophobia is far from dead yet.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-12-09T11:14:58+00:00

I read through that thread and just kept thinking: You insufferable, self-righteous, pompous assholes. No one gives a flying fuck about your 'gender', these are just service people trying to address you politely in a formal setting. If you can't deal with that: Tough luck. No one cares. Welcome to real life.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-12-05T15:49:27+00:00

Reality really has to be twisted into a pretzel by now, considering how often this thing that never happens, happens.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-12-05T13:26:24+00:00

Ah, yes. Getting the "f*g" tattoo is a true rite of passage for gay men... UwU

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-11-30T11:04:58+00:00

"Of course gay men shouldn't be persecuted, shunned or discriminated against.

Unless they don't want to stick their dick in a vagina obviously. That goes without saying."

Same crap, different century.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-11-29T11:46:01+00:00

Of course the thing that never happens happened again in the comments: https://www.reddit.com/r/lgbt/comments/r3kv4l/cis_gay_men_please_read_this/hmeecwc/

It's a good thing this is a thing that never happens. Because otherwise I'd be worried about how often it happens.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-11-28T07:32:04+00:00

Yeah. If I want(ed) a dildo, I am ordering one off the bazillion internet shops out there. No need to have a clingy woman with ... issues... attached to it.

"phallos function exactly like cis penises!! except they can't get hard naturally, they don't produce lubrication, they don't have a glans, they don't twitch and react to stimuli like cis dicks do and they can't ejaculate... but you have to remember that TONS [0.0000000000000001%] of cis dudes out there have penises just like that!!!"

"And they have arm skin. And no visible veins. And an overall wrong surface texture. And grow hair in all the wrong places. And have no separation between shaft and glans. And look like fat meat rolls 99% of the time. And the other 1% are uncanny-valley at best. And those that do get hard fall apart after 10 years. If they don't succumb to infection before. ... Totally just like a real one, I tell you!"

Honestly: It's completely irresponsible to tell young impressionable people that they just need "the surgery" to physically be like the other sex. But that's what keeps happening. And people keep buying it.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-11-27T21:09:25+00:00

Wut? Phalloplasty is a penis, which means that that trans man would have the genitals the person prefers.

The delusion is strong with this one.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-11-22T07:52:33+00:00

‘gender-free dancers’

Okay, that's offensive!

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-11-07T07:47:11+00:00

Essentially what the TQ+ has become (boundary-breaking, whiny, never satisfied slippery slope) is what traditional bigots accused gay activists of doing from the beginning.

And the bigots were wrong.

In some ways we helped create this monster.

No. We are not responsible for the TQ+ aka "straight people".

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-11-02T11:33:39+00:00

None.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-10-26T15:46:17+00:00

I’d been talking with a gay guy who mentioned how he liked d**k and it made me feel insecure that he was even interested in me.

No shit, Sherlock! Gay man likes a penis, call the police!

Interestingly, a lot of transmascs I've encountered online say cis gay men were worse to them than cishet men ever were.

Maybe because "transmascs" aren't even pretending to be men and men generally won't treat you with kid gloves if they aren't interested in you?

since the only opression they get is homophobia (wich is easier to ignore if they're also cis and white)

Yup, totally easy to ignore.

Cis gay men are often hyper focused on cock so they don't see us as real men because their whole identity revolves around the genitals.

Ah, those filthy homosexuals with their love of cock!

I feel like cis gay men are all having fun in a club I’ll never be invited to

ding, ding, ding

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-10-24T15:26:58+00:00

What are "gay things" anyway? The only things that make a man gay is falling in love with men and wanting to have sex with men. Everything else is just window dressing.

The fact that they mistake gay for "being feminine and liking cute stuff" tells me all I need to know about their level of experience with actual gay men. Sure, both can be true for a gay man, but they are not what make him gay.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-10-20T17:14:21+00:00

"What we're saying is that perhaps their sentiment shouldn't be constantly normalized in society because it's based on transphobia/cisnormativity."

Literally saying homosexuality shouldn't be normalized. Where is the difference to the asshole screaming about "gays shoving it down his throat" because he saw two men holding hands in the street?

Fuck these people.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-10-19T09:50:19+00:00

I mean, sometimes it was after the second date... and sometimes it was before the first date (i.e.: "hey, you are hot, the sex was good and you seem nice. Want to go out for a coffee sometime?"). There is no point in waiting months if you are both young and into each other.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-10-17T12:19:48+00:00

Also Mrbig_boi: Meow... FtM Catboy

Glorious. But it's the men telling her that she doesn't pass that are the big meanies, not the fellow FTMs that blow smoke up her ass. (Also... note how she doesn't even claim that she dated "cis gay men", just "cis men".)

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-10-17T12:15:16+00:00

Tthey didn't task, they TOLD us

To be fair, they do ask. Preferably on online forums. Like clockwork. Again and again and again. And again. "Would you date a trans man?" "Am I valid?" "Pre-op trans bro, am I allowed here?"

So, yes: They do ask and they ask so often that people learn that only a no will stop the invasion. And since a simple "no" will usually not suffice, people get more graphic every time.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-10-17T10:04:56+00:00

I know you’re not attracted to vaginas now can you stop saying it because it makes me want to gut myself alive.

I have nothing against homosexuals, but they don't have to shove it down our throats all the time, do they? - Same energy.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-10-17T06:56:14+00:00

That's how you know they are young: The assumption that no one in the history of ever has tried multi-partner relationships, gender-nonconformity, men wearing skirts or women wearing pants. I mean... read a book about the 60s, 70s or even the 80s for god's sake.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-10-14T14:51:39+00:00

In related news: Difficult people have difficulties getting hired by people who want to keep their sanity

Even in a notoriously open-minded industry like acting, I'd wager that the people making decisions will prefer to take on people that don't make everyone else's job harder. (Not to mention make the production more expensive, because even something as silly as a "gender-neutral dressing room" will not come for free.)

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-10-14T14:22:47+00:00

all of the mlm I’ve dated have been bi not gay, so I don’t have personal experience with your other questions.

Duh.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-10-14T14:21:11+00:00

Fair enough but would you accept that if someone didn't say they don't date people of a certain race but aren't racist? Maybe they're just not attracted to certain features commonly seen in a race or find one trait that a given race just lacks as unattractive. I just can't accept someone saying they won't date all trans people aren't transphobic but someone that says they won't date people of a certain race is racist. To me it's the same thing.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-10-14T14:17:55+00:00

It's 2021 and there are really people that believe that the gayest of gay sex takes the form of dick-in-pussy.

Dear. Fucking. Lord.

Plenty of gay men enjoy vaginas when they’re attached to dudes

Honey, no. If he "enjoys" vagina, he ain't exclusively into men. You can't divorce genitals from sex and sexual orientation, that's just not how humans are built.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-09-25T14:33:30+00:00

If Brian Kinney gets any more woke, he'll finally jump the gap to the other side of the horseshoe.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-09-17T15:40:09+00:00

Oh yes, all those gay guys (totally gay, hon... dude, I swear) falling all over themselves to smash pussy. As long as there's a scraggly beard and butch mastectomy scars on the chest, it's completely gay to stick a dick into vagina and these men are absolutely not just telling you what you want to hear. 🙄

Also: Any bets on what percentage of sexual encounters claimed in those answers is fictional? 70%?

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-09-14T13:30:49+00:00

Ah yes. I'm betting 5 bucks on "pre-op, pre-T, but I am wearing a binder every three weeks for two minutes in front of the mirror, SO GAY PEEPS, WHY WON'T YOU DATE ME".

Looked it up: No pictures sadly. But a Supernatural-groupie... of course.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-09-14T13:19:02+00:00

I blocked her on twitter because she was getting pushed into my timeline by other people despite her obviously being an insufferable twat. Reading your links, it seems my gut feeling was right about her.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-09-09T08:57:43+00:00

Okay, then my own reply is too harsh for her situation.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-09-09T08:56:05+00:00

The lack of backbone on people is sometimes amazing. Admittedly that's easy to say when it's not your life blowing up around you, but I think at least some of these "midlife-crisis-trans"-disasters could definitely be avoided if the partner put his or her foot down from the beginning.

"No. Just no. If you want to be a woman, Stan, fine. But you'll have to do it without me, because I will be filing for divorce. You have until the end of the week to decide or I am going to look for an attorney. And you are sleeping on the couch for now."

People need to treat this the same as having an affair.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-09-05T13:26:14+00:00

"snakelord"? You wish.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-09-02T13:47:52+00:00

What is the MTF trying to say here? "It's fine if he isn't into it! Just fuck him anyway!"

And, unless there's health issues, I'd be very concerned if the people I had sex with "rarely" get hard.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-08-17T08:41:07+00:00

I wasn't sure whether you are joking, but there really are pics of her on her profile. So... manly...

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-08-17T08:37:03+00:00

In 2021 it's strictly gay sex when you put a penis in a vagina.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-08-17T08:34:16+00:00

Eh. They can also go to any of the moderated-to-hell-and-back subs like r/AskGayMen where people who'd tell it to them straight (hehe) would get banned.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-08-12T03:43:59+00:00

Brian_Kinney at it again. Thread is brigaded to hell and back, but his most important job is to keep gay men from saying they are gay.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-08-08T13:05:47+00:00

"Hey baby, put your dick into my vagina but do it in a totally gay way!"

Whenever a TRA claims with a straight face that "PiV sex is absolutely gay sex" you know you have reached the point in the discussion where the wheels finally come off the logic wagon, slice through several bystanders and explode into giant fireballs, incinerating wagon, passengers, bystanders and the whole goddamn movement in one glorious blaze of stupidity.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-08-08T07:22:23+00:00

In Rossiya 1’s Olympic coverage, members of the LGBT community have been referred to as “dirt”, “perverts” and “psychopaths”.

Ah, good ol' traditional homophobia. I'm getting nostalgic for the 90s. Oh... wait, that wouldn't have been allowed on the air in the 90s. 1960s?

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-08-02T10:00:04+00:00

TFW you actually found that gay unicorn who thinks he is into you, but then realize that means that he is absolutely not into vagina.

I mean, I don't think her boyfriend's a Kinsey-6, maybe a 5, but still: What's with the surprised Pickachu face? Isn't this an FMT's dream?

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-07-29T13:40:22+00:00

/r/askgaybros the boogeyman of trans land, reducing totally stable and not at all mentally ill people to tears since 1834: https://www.reddit.com/r/ftm/comments/ot6b90/ended_up_on_extremely_transphobic_subreddit/

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-07-29T13:18:01+00:00

They are busy rationalizing: https://www.reddit.com/r/ftm/comments/ots2n1/woke_allies_tw_anatomy/

Some of course realize that this is indeed what he meant at the end of the day: https://www.reddit.com/r/ftm/comments/ots2n1/woke_allies_tw_anatomy/h6xr4jw/

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-07-29T13:09:13+00:00

Can also be filed under "not sure if OP is a troll or just delusional".

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-07-27T17:02:08+00:00

This is how you correctly dress up your conversion therapy rhetoric: https://reddit.com/r/actuallesbians/comments/orypvg/reminder_to_trans_allies_and_people_trying_to_be/

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-07-24T12:53:32+00:00

This was linked on r/Transgender. The comments:

"Pretty much spot on"
"I'm gonna bookmark this [...]"
"Scripture! Brilliant content!"

Linked article is a long, meandering essay that boils down to "No one is forcing anyone to date trans people, BUT..." and they love it.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-07-15T13:46:04+00:00

homosexuality was considered a mental illness and it was not that long ago that it was removed from the DSM.

I've found a useful shorthand for whether a condition is an illness or not is the question whether it needs treatment. Does being gay degrade your quality of life (in and of itself, disregarding societal pressures)? No, it does not, therefore it needs no treatment, therefore it's not an illness.

Discounting the transtrenders, trans people have or at least claim gender dysphoria. They 'can't live with their body' and need or want treatment. So it's an illness, because in untreated form it (by itself) negatively trans people's quality of life.

You can't say "I need surgical intervention and permanent hormone treatments to live my life" and in the same breath claim that you don't suffer from an illness.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-07-11T19:02:19+00:00

The surprise and consternation when they step out of their moderator-enforced echo chambers and are suddenly confronted with people who will not indulge in those illusions. "What do you mean 'a piece of plastic is not the same as a penis?!?'"

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-07-11T16:33:05+00:00

It's not going to get banned. It's too large and well-known for that to happen. Instead it'll go private for half a day and then return with new moderators (probably from r/gaybros, r/askgaymen or r/askgaybrosOver30) who'll promise to "continue to foster the positive aspects of this sub but we are going to take a more pro-active stance against trolls and hate speech".

And from then on replying "No, of course not, I'm gay" to an FTM's "will you fuck me?" will be a bannable offense.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-07-11T16:14:22+00:00

Yeah, but if a man has sex with a buff hairy hyper masculine trans man how can you even tell their sex?!? Answer me that!

Checkmate homosexuals!

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-07-11T15:22:51+00:00

Sometimes it fun to watch them go "He can't say that! He can't, can he?"

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-07-11T15:21:06+00:00

"But, but think about it! How can you be a man... if... now, hear me out... if you want to be penetrated by... another man. I mean... just... just think! Who gets penetrated by men? Huh? ... Yes, that's right! Women! So... so... if you want to be penetrated by a man... you must be... huh? huh? Yes, exactly! A woman!"

So progressive you suddenly sound like some nincompoop from the 1950s.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-07-11T15:13:11+00:00

The trans/AHS/okbuddyhetero/etc brigade astroturfing? No, never! They wouldn't! They are the good guys!

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-07-11T11:08:56+00:00

This is where the brigade currently comes from: https://www.reddit.com/r/okbuddyhetero/comments/ohl6ws/trash_ass_sub/ Never heard of that sub before, but upvotes are in the thousands and the comments are vile TQ+-homophobia.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-07-11T09:40:25+00:00

I don't mind bi guys on r/askgaybros - if they state that fact when they answer sexuality related question (for the reasons you outlined above).

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-07-11T09:38:59+00:00

Absolutely not.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-07-09T08:21:59+00:00

the ones who threw a fit about this were the usual culture war obsessed, outrage machine clickbait garbage media.

Facebook/online gay-bashers will get years of memes and fake news out of this one stupid video. Christmas came early for those people this year.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-07-04T20:02:09+00:00

He really needs to lay off the weed.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-07-02T19:35:40+00:00

Threatening people with bodily harm for not sleeping with you? TRAs really do know how to win a debate!

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-06-16T13:42:22+00:00

Exactly. Brian_Kinney, DCLawdude, etc. If you even hint at the fact that you don't consider FTMs gay men or PiV sex gay sex, bam banned. And you don't get a jury of your peers to appeal that ban to, the decision is taken by one single asshole and that's that.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-06-12T12:55:26+00:00

"I'm totes gold star gay, honey! Never even touched a girl, I swear! Ew, vagina. Your puss... front hole's great though. So... manly? And your boobs - strike that, sorry - 'pecs' are great too. ... Now, can I do you missionary style? It will be totally gay, gold-star promise!"

Of all the things I thought this millennium would bring, "penis in vagina sex is completely gay sex between two men" definitely didn't make the list.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-05-28T08:05:07+00:00

Note that neither "trans gay men", nor "bi/pan" guys are sufficient. It has to be "cis gay men".

The part the title refers to:

I’m against forcing people to accept to date trans people if they don’t want to; I’d never force someone. But I hope, ...

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-05-15T09:06:29+00:00

Why does he post it on askgaybros? Propaganda of course. "You can learn to love pussy too!"

Of course sexuality don't work like that, but how would a bi man desperate to signal his own wokeness know that?

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-05-11T14:25:19+00:00

Someone's really confused there. And what's with not wanting to disclose that they're trans when it comes to sex/dating? Do they think men are blind?

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-05-08T07:52:50+00:00

"Hell hath no fury like a transwoman wanted by a bisexual man"

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-05-08T07:51:15+00:00

I honestly love it, when they try to make claims in that direction. Because then you can call them out for thinking that penis in vagina can ever be gay or lesbian sex. It exposes their argument for the fallacious drivel it is, because everybody - whether they admit it or not - grasps on an instinctual, visceral level that penis in vagina is never and can never be gay sex. Sometimes it helps to bring the discussion back to reality by painting a graphic picture in people's minds.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-05-07T09:44:50+00:00

Traitors.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-05-03T17:49:20+00:00

Peeked into the post history. Completely unhinged, unstable person. Everyone's a TERF, everyone's transphobic, everyone's after them, everyone's in on it, etc. pp. It sounds like a psychological illness that goes way, way beyond anything related to trans.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-04-29T13:01:40+00:00

I'll continue to consume porn I like, whenever I like. Baseless tumblr posts with anti-porn propaganda can scream into the void for all I care.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-04-24T16:08:33+00:00

More pearl-clutching and veiled homophobia than you'd see from a mormon housewife in the 2000s trying to make polite conversation.

"Oh... it has to be so difficult for you... well, I mean, two men... what with... I mean... wouldn't it be easier... no offense of course, but... I mean, you see with a woman... Have you tried it? I'm just saying, please, don't take this the wrong way... but there are quite masculine women, you know? ..."

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-04-19T13:28:14+00:00

Yes, the tried and true smear tactic of: "You disagree with me, so you must be a false-flag operation! No true-gay(tm) would ever dare disagree with meeeeeeee!" - Also: DCLawDude is a repugnant hypocrite who suffers from Tourette syndrome.

Sometimes in these threads I do delve into the post history of the most combative participants to see who they really are. And even though a disappointingly large number of them are gay handmaidens, there are a lot of bi, FTM, MTF or even straight people who like to "As a gay man..." AGB users.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-04-17T12:15:44+00:00

Oh good god, they are all serious:

"EDIT: I am assuming this got down voted by a bunch of uneducated shitheads thinking they know shit. Yes, trans women have periods. Look it the fuck up you smooth brains. The fact that I need to write this disclaimer on this subreddit is fucking alarming. Educate yourselves on your bodies ladies."

"I get periods, as do many of my trans-fem friends. It hasn't been studied in-depth, as there's barely any scientific research being done on trans people's health. OP is absolutely not alone."

https://medium.com/the-establishment/yes-trans-women-can-get-period-symptoms-e43a43979e8c

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-04-17T12:12:22+00:00

"Hey, hey, guy- ehr... girls! Is there an app for me to track that thing that I can't ever experience because I lack the organs that cause it?!?"

Invisible friends, invisible periods.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-04-14T16:36:27+00:00

Also: "TERF can be used against gay men, the F just stands for something else". They are very proud of themselves.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-04-13T13:00:35+00:00

Attention whores. Ignoring them is the worst punishment you can inflict.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-04-12T17:44:05+00:00

I like how most penises look. There's prettier ones and sometimes less pretty ones and I have yet to encounter one I'd consider a dealbreaker, but I like them and I wouldn't want to miss them.

So yes, I don't get the "all genitals are ugly"-argument either.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-04-12T17:37:11+00:00

I have similar feelings about FTMs who trot out their "T-penis". Yeah, no. If I'd ever stick my face in a pussy, I'd choose one that doesn't look like a friggin' rectal prolapse.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-04-12T16:54:45+00:00

The whole up-/downvote ratios in that thread are interesting. Comments critical of the linked article (which is the usual coercive cotton ceiling crap) are carefully worded, but by actual lesbians and mostly upvoted. Comments praising the article are mostly downvoted. Overall it seems a vast majority of comments are by "woe is me"-transbians and even they seem to notice the incongruity of vote behavior and tone of comments:

"I love how threads like these really show how many lurking terfs there are ready to downvote and bully the trans perspective off the sub"

Of course, they don't have enough self-awareness to realize that by policing people's speech until the sub is on the verge of newspeak, they have driven the silent majority into the anonymity of voting.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-04-12T15:47:10+00:00

Functional is good, attached to a non-creep even better!

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-04-12T15:46:22+00:00

I think it's the creepiness that gives it that certain je-ne-sais-quoi.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-04-12T15:45:31+00:00

"Yeah, I heard you don't like dick... soooo... how about a dick that is kaput?"

Can I interest you in the thing you don't want but worse?

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-04-12T13:36:19+00:00

Also: doesn't this argument invalidate EVERY sexual orientation?

You are expecting logical reasoning. We don't do that here, that would be transphobic.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-04-12T11:46:49+00:00

I think I threw up a little in my mouth when I read that. And I am a gay man and very, very fond of dick.

The thread is a shit show, but even on a heavily modded TQ+ subreddit like AL, the truth sometimes still shows in the up- and downvotes.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-04-12T08:40:41+00:00

It's the utter surprise when being confronted with a subreddit which is not carefully cleaned and purified of anything that might 'offend' current trans sensibilities.

Take /askgaymen for example: You are still allowed to say you wouldn't have sex with a trans man. You are even allowed to say that you would never have sex with a trans man. But you are not allowed to say anything that invalidates a trans man's identity or would imply that he isn't a real boy.

"I would never sleep with a trans man because I am exclusively same-sex attracted." => Begrudgingly tolerated, because they haven't figured out how to ban it yet

"I would never sleep with a trans man because I am gay." => Deleted/banhammered, because it implies FTMs are not men

And now these people, who have only visited subs that enforce this sophistry to the detriment of actual gay people, come into a sub where it is completely acceptable to say that you won't sleep with trans men because they are not men. Imagine the shock!

If you follow an argument on a sub thread long enough, you'll often see some variant of this exchange:

[Gay man]: "No, I am not going to sleep with a trans man, because he is not a biological man."

[TRA]: "So, what you are saying is that you don't think a trans man is a real man?" (translation: 'Haha, now I got you!')

[Gay man]: "Yes, that is exactly what I am saying."

[TRA]: surprised Pikachu face

They simply aren't equipped (anymore) to handle this. They are accustomed to having the other person banned if he or she says they don't really consider TWAW or TMAM to be statements of truth.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-04-12T08:23:30+00:00

Can they not hear themselves?

A question I have often asked myself the last few years. And I have come to the following conclusion:

Yes, yes they do. And they have absolutely no problem with it. Because, you see, unlike "those bad people" they are doing it for a good(tm) cause. And they are willing to sacrifice gay men and lesbians for it.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-04-12T08:19:59+00:00

There's also a whole host of FTMs jumping around that thread lecturing gay men on how they are doing this "gay thing" wrong. And defending not disclosing trans status until the pants come off.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-04-11T19:20:57+00:00

Why, oh why do I have to be associated by proxy with crap like this?

It's simple common sense to separate bathrooms for teenagers (you know, the people with the raging hormones, questionable judgement and lack of life experience).

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-04-11T16:20:04+00:00

Some of the TRAs on that thread are really dropping their homophobia-camouflage: https://imgur.com/a/lEyjg22 (https://www.reddit.com/r/askgaybros/comments/moobem/am_i_being_transphobic_to_my_date/gu5ktce/)

"You say you can't help being same-sex attracted? That's what pedophiles say too!"

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-04-10T20:10:45+00:00

"Previous research by Stonewall, which campaigns for ~~lesbian, gay, bi and~~ trans ~~equality~~, found [...]"

Fixed it.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-04-10T04:07:28+00:00

You are correct.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-04-09T06:55:58+00:00

Well, truscum are the original trans people, the ones wo say you actually need to have gender dysphoria in order to be trans. (We called these people transsexuals in the 1990s and 2000s.)

Transtrenders and AGPs probably hate them as much as they hate T*RFs.

Edit: Clarified.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-04-09T06:40:07+00:00

Yes, looking at the way this was posted over half of reddit, this might be a troll.

The replies in r/asktransgender prove however that they are not too far off from the mainstream thinking there.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-04-08T17:13:45+00:00

Doozy of a thread with the usual homophobic warbling by FTMs who just can't understand what this "same sex attraction"-thing is all about.

OP admitting that she sends the pictures first, even though (at least by now) she suspects most don't read her profile first: https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/mgg7cw/what_am_i_doibg_wrong_on_grindr/gsstuc7/

Also: The utter surprise that gay hookup culture is phallocentric. (Honestly: The best thing about gay hookup culture is unapologetic phallocentrism. Though I suppose you'd disagree if you didn't have one.)

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-04-06T20:10:22+00:00

I think even the blind would see that.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-04-06T20:04:33+00:00

Her identity makes no freaking sense at all, I understand nothing ...

I think that's the point of 'non-binary': obfuscate the meaning of basic things like sex until everyone goes cross-eyed with confusion.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-04-06T10:42:58+00:00

Watch out! He has painted his nails black! Now even the best gynecologist cannot tell his dick from a vagina!

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-04-06T10:41:40+00:00

TFW you try not to comment on someone's hilarious speech impediment, only to realize that the weird things he says are deliberate.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2021-04-06T08:57:57+00:00

It's probably an almost harmless post in the grand scheme of trans things, but a few things still irk me:

a) The obvious 'please tell me gay guys will be interested anyway'-undertone.

b) Even though I am effectively a straight woman, I will refuse to date any straight man, because that would be 'invalidating'.

c) "But my chest isn't even that big!"

Also obligatory 'gay men are transphobic!'-replies in the thread.

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