Another ban wave just happened.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-07-10T19:21:33+00:00

Even r/detrans... I never thought they'd ever stop that low. They're saying even stopping transitioning is hate speech.

These nasty little males really hate women.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-07-10T19:28:37+00:00

Sympathy? They only know it as a performative act one displays to signal one's virtue. I don't think there is a single shred of genuine compassion left in their souls.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-11-09T03:37:31+00:00

Trump never banned trans people from the military. People with ongoing medical and psychological problems were barred from joining. A lot of trans fall into that category.

TheBeefBenson · 2021-01-09T02:04:06+00:00

They don't have universal healthcare in china and the healthcare they have here is shockingly poor with the doctors getting kick backs for promoting homeopathic remedies over actual medicine. The subsidised education they have is again so poor parents would rather send their kids abroad and pay more. The housing is only affordable because the build quality is terrible, it's just concrete.

Source: I live and work in China. Have dealt with all these issues. I am from the UK originally, so I'm used to a national health service, and I am telling you the health care here is terrible.

You don't have a fucking clue what you are talking about you drivelling little marxist.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-07-14T10:37:52+00:00

How could I tell it was sarcasm. There was literally LITERALLY no difference between that and what a TIM would say. It's all so depressing.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-07-14T09:44:44+00:00

"Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken"

You can identify all you want, but it doesn't mean people have to agree with you.

Lesbian, is a description. It describes a female, a woman, who is exclusively attracted to other females, women.

You're a man, who likes to pretend to be a woman and you're probably absolutely fine with coercing and pressuring women into having sex with you because even though you identify as a woman you don't see actual women as equal to yourself, just objects to be used in your fantasy.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-08-08T06:54:45+00:00

Welcome. We've got radical feminists, neo nazis, Christian conservatives and not a lot else. The only thing anyone has in common here is that they're all anti-porn... and they don't employ much nuance when they come to defining it.

I only come here because I'm "gender critical" (from a non ideological standpoint) and was given the impression you didn't have to be a radical feminist to get along in the GC community. This is not the case.

I've go to Ruqqus mostly and it feels like there's less of an extreme there. You do still get people from the fringes but the centre feels a lot more fleshed out there.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-12-02T04:29:01+00:00

In the Tweet, Page cited a statistic that 40 or more trans woman had been killed this year alone. Page then made this comment:

"Enough is enough. You aren't being 'cancelled,' you are hurting people. I am one of those people and we won't be silent in the face of your attacks,"

I seriously doubt that even one of those trans people was killed by a woman let alone murdered because the perpetrator had GC opinions. In fact, I'm going to take it as a certainty that every trans person in that statistic was either killed by men or by other trans persons. Furthermore i think it likely that most of the trans people there weren't killed because they were trans, rather they were killed for the same reasons that anti-social males kill other men and women all the time.

Hence why sane men and women don't want to forfeit women's protections and spaces to possibly violent males.

The way Page is trying to link anti-social male violence to women being GC is so disingenuous it's actually pretty sociopathic. It's such an obviously incorrect assertion that you have to at some level recognise that you're lying.

What the fuck happened to the human species.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-07-18T02:57:38+00:00

What would your mother think if she saw you write this?

TheBeefBenson · 2020-07-14T18:23:23+00:00

I'm a classical liberal and I really don't like all the actually racist and far right (white nationalist) politics on here. That being said, pointing out that George Soros is a direct threat to liberty and western civilisation is not a conspiracy theory and I hope you take the time to do a bit of research on that. He is one of the chief financiers behind the total overhaul of the west into what resembles communist China.

TheBeefBenson · 2021-02-18T01:43:06+00:00

"while women who believe women should be wives and mother only are out there fighting for all of our rights."

This a gross mischaracterisation of the modern day conservative position for most parts of the western world.

My mother was a conservative Christian women who set up our town's first and for many years the only abortion and pregnancy counselling service. Free to use for anyone. As it was UK law that all women who sought an abortion must be referred for counselling before and after the procedure, my mother dealt with all the abortions in a town of 300,000 people and the highest rate of teenage pregnancy in the country. I don't think you could even imagine the number of women she helped. It was so many that she provided counselling for a number of my female friends.

My mother dedicated her life to giving women sexual health advice and support if they wanted an abortion. Although abortion was not something she felt was always the best option, and she dearly prayed to live in a world where it wasn't required, she felt it was her duty as a conservative and Christian to educate young people on how to have safe sex and to support women during pregnancy and abortion.

And you go and say she only believed women for good for being wives and mothers?

I'm so angry I'm not going to comment how I feel about your bigoted statements any further.

I suggest you take a look at some other points of view. Try listening to see conservative female youtubers like Lauren Chen. These women identify as conservative and they wouldn't agree with your statement at all.

TheBeefBenson · 2021-01-09T03:15:45+00:00

The fact you're being so smug after every single point you made was refuted only further cements my belief that you're an imbecile.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-12-25T20:37:29+00:00

Exactly. Even if you've totally bought in to the gender ideology crap you must admit you are discriminating players by gender.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-07-14T22:45:10+00:00

It's good to see diversity of opinion, but I fail to see what anyone's race has to do with anything. Sure, people of different races may offer a unique opinion on some things but it shouldn't be expected that they all conform to the same opinion, which may be opinions you find abhorrent. Would you feel the quality of the conversation had improved because a large group of members of the Nation of Islam came here? Because they're actually a lot more right wing then many of the right wingers on here. Are they simply an improvement because of the colour of their skin? At the very least that's tokenism if not racist to both races.

People's immutable characteristics are not something they should be judged on. And fyi I've spent a lot of time here calling out those right wing people for the exact same thing, I'm just holding everyone to the same standard.

So, please just have a think about it and don't pour more petrol on the racial bonfire. There's enough of that about as it is

TheBeefBenson · 2020-08-08T14:57:19+00:00

I think I already said that it was because they tend to be radical feminists. Since I fundamentally disagree with them on many points I don't feel there's much sense having a discussion when there's a pretty low ceiling on what we can talk about. I also feel they are prone to ideological puritanism and can have very conservative and restrictive opinions on what women and men can do in a consensual environment.

Also, as a man I don't feel comfortable intruding in what I perceive to be a woman's space, which is the impression I get from GC. However, I think ideas have to be free from belonging to any group and must exist on their own merit. So sometimes I'd like to speak on issues but I worry about ruffling too many easily ruffled feathers and wasting my time as well as worrying if it's appropriate that I do speak at all.

Lastly, the lack of accountability shown when it comes to the role feminism has played in creating this situation leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. Feminism has been the dominant cultural force for quite a while now. They were silent if not supportive when provable absurdities like the "gender pay gap" were pushed, they were silent or supportive when the concept of manhood was totally denigrated and never framed in a positive context, they were silent if not gleeful when the outrage mobs and the witch hunts started, when they denied due process, when they sought equity over equality, when they pushed ideology before facts. This censorious culture we must now all endure was brought in by feminism. The ideology of feminism has marched, almost lock step, with left wing authoritarianism, with Marxism, socialism and even communism. Now women are no longer needed to fulfil the left's plans they have been abandoned and the radical feminists seem to be more agreived that they lost control of the movement rather than questioning whether they should have been part of it all and they role they played in ushering it in.

Yet is not only the part feminism has played in siding with authoritarianism, but also the inadvertent creation of the trans epidemic itself. Young men have been taught from a young age that being born male is a cardinal sin, that identifying with masculinity is toxic, that the whole western world is based on a tyrannical patriarchy that allows women no autonomy or power. Told this by organisations, by an education system, a media, that was totally dominated by the will of feminism, told this by women who had power over them; as they denied they had power over any men at all because some men had power over them... men who also agreed with the mandates of feminist thought in public if not in private, and when their misdeeds were made public they were quietly ignored for the sake of the movement.

Young men were robbed of the chance of ever becoming men and feminism was one of the prime vehicles through which it happened. And what was the end result? Trans males. Males who hate themselves as much as they hate the people that made them hate themselves. Has it never occurred to the feminists here that when these males stopped identifying as men that they became animals? That even the MGTOW crowd and the ultra manosphere were not nearly as half as pyschotically aggressive as many of these TIMs are? Something should have clicked then for the rad fems about what the ideal of manhood means, that for most men strength is measured in tandem with magnanimity and you can't have one without the other. But it hasn't clicked. They still act like it was by the will of men collectively, through invisible and intangible systems of omnipotent control, that pushed males into rejecting manhood and opened up the doors to the sanctuaries of womanhood. It was feminism, that created them, it was woman who brought them in, it was women who bullied and jostled for virtue points in supporting for them and it was women who threw the rad fems out. But on GC you get the impression that it's all the fault of men and the patriarchy. But men had nothing to do with this. Feminism made these TIMs and women brought them in. So seeing just a molecule of accountability would be nice, would give me confidence that the gender critical movement works towards reason and sense and not just another narrative.

The last thing that I think GC and the rad fems need to recognise is that the only men who have stood up for not only the gender critical perspective but also the rights of the rad fems too, even whilst aware of the hatred rad fems can have for them, has been men who don't typically identify as feminists. Who have often criticised it. Who have eschewed a masculine code of conduct. It's ironic that not long ago rad fems despised people like Joe Rogan, Steven Crowder, Sargon of Akkad, yet these are the men who will stand up and support them. So maybe it's time to rethink some of their prejudices against men and masculinity.

I hope this didn't come across as too much of a rant, I said a lot more then I expected to, and I hope I didn't seem like I was making pejorative and generalised statements about women. That was not my intent. I wish only that that movements, all movements, take the time to reflect on themselves and don't get caught up in prejudice and delusion.

TheBeefBenson · 2021-02-14T11:09:08+00:00

Very Libertarian philosopher whose main reasoning was that unproductive people, the government, wish to steal the labor of productive people, the capitalists, and they hide behind the concept of alturism to do it. Not all her points were great not all were bad, but she isn't considered a controversial writer... just a really bad writer. Because although her philosophical reasoning isn't terrible, her writing really is. It's rare to meet a libertarian who actually likes Atlas Shrugged.

Where they're getting this connection with Ayn Rand to Radical Feminists is really beyond me, though. I think it's a product of the hive-mind churning up faux hate for anything to the right of whatever political opinions twitter tells them to have that particular week.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-11-27T01:33:47+00:00

You seem like you're pretty happy with that outcome...

And what do you mean by the "great reset is now necessary"?

Are you actually part of the gay community? Because if you're not, or you genuinely think there's something fundamentally immoral with homosexuality, then you shouldn't be commenting here.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-10-14T17:40:26+00:00

Ok. I'll bite. Why did you spray pepperspray into your eyes and crotch?

TheBeefBenson · 2020-07-13T09:51:38+00:00

IRL translation:

Hello I'm a gay man. I like cocks. I like trans people as friends. Especially if they are attractive, healthy people who are comfortable with themselves and have a good dress sense. They're cool. Unless they're not nice people. Then fuck them, life's too short. Also, fuck Reddit. Here's a display of my right to have a same sex attraction without facing abuse for it because Reddit hates that: MY BODY MY CHOICE. I hope Reddit puts an end to this homophobia soon. Freddy Mercury bless you all.

TheBeefBenson · 2021-07-12T02:35:40+00:00

Monty Python logic at its finest.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-08-18T06:42:33+00:00

I recommend everyone watch Lauren Southern's Farmlands documentary for a good look at what's happening here.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-07-14T23:30:45+00:00

That comment was a complete straw man and you know it. Please refer to the pyramid of debate because we don't toletate that here.

To reiterate, wanting people of different races on the site for simply the sake of them being a different race, and regardless of their opinions, means you see their value only in terms of a collective and not as individuals. It is an objectification of a people based on an immutable characteristic, their race. That's tokenism and it can be a parallel with racism. It's not born out of hatred but it is still devaluing of a person's individuality based on their race. But I'm not calling you a racist ok, and you need to calm down. I understand how things can be with the current climate, getting labelled racist is awful and shocking especially when you're a nice person.

And as I said, i call out the right wingers when they do it too, so I'm not being biased here.

I'm just saying you should leave race out of it too.

If you're interested in people of different races because you think they might bring something unique to the table that's fine and good and healthy. But at the same time you can't assume they will bring anything beneficial either.

Whether good or bad we should refrain from making judgements and expectations on people because of the colour of their skin.

Edit: it would also be better to label these "right wingers" for what they are. Because they are not libertarians, they're not conservatives, they're not centre-right, they're neo-nazis. Actual neo-nazis. I know. It's depressing we have to share a space with them. Such is the price of liberty. Take solace in the fact they're truly miserable creatures and should be ridiculed at every opportunity.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-07-12T22:53:26+00:00

You're acting as if only what is true is applauded here and that what is recognised as true on face value by one is recognised as true by all.

This place is going to deteriorate into Voat in no time at all unless posts that make sweeping generalisations and insults based on race, sex, religion, or broad political markers are restricted to subs that cater specifically to that world view, are labelled as doing that and are removed from all. Because currently there are so many posts and threads on mainstream subs that equate being Jewish with being fundamentally evil or malicious by the nature of simply being Jewish. This is intolerable and this site will die as a consequence. I didn't leave one ID pol platform to find myself on another. I don't want to be around people who are stained with actual hatred and throw it around everywhere. I want a place where my character and the characters of everyone else is judged by merit. If you don't want that then it's you that should have to make a separate and isolated space here, not people like me. And people who do want that can't be debated with, there is no healthy discussion to be had when individual merit is meaningless. How can you expect the people that don't respect the merit of and individual to respect the merit of an idea?

I accept that you're free to say whatever you want, but I don't accept that neutral environments that try to promote healthy discussion should have to cater to such things.

Look at it this way, what if every sub here was dominated by flat feathers, it would get depressing really quickly, wouldn't it?

TheBeefBenson · 2021-02-18T08:43:01+00:00

My mother wasn't different at all, she was a typical conservative women.

And the reason feminist movements are dwindling is because they are too busy infighting with women and allied men as a whole, thus cutting them off from new members and narrowing it's appeal across the political spectrum.

I, like many others it seems, find this elitist, self-righteous snobbery and the consequent slander it has produced to be intolerable. Especially from a group of women claiming to want to work these women, but then quickly bitch about them and misrepresent them behind their backs.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-07-15T07:56:12+00:00

That losing the lesbian potential part is them saying that since the person is getting married to a man they're no longer a potential sexual partner for the TIM. Which makes them not a lesbian. A lesbian to this TIM just means a woman they can potentially guilt into trying to sleep with them.

TheBeefBenson · 2021-07-20T01:17:38+00:00

What!? She's actually going to court? For posting a ribbon? Is there anything else to it? Did she make some threatening remarks or something?

I know Scotland's lost it's mind and is on it's way to becoming North Korea (lord help them if they're stupid enough to go for independence) but even this seems a bit much.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-07-13T01:14:40+00:00

Because they aren't so much opinions as just insane vitriol and it's depressing to see.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-07-11T02:09:04+00:00

Someone sent me this earlier. It's worth the read.

This is all mostly organized by an absolutely insane man in a dress nicknamed Bardfinn (or Penny). Searching his name on kiwifarms brings up a lot of evidence of what he's been doing, collected by an user called Nykysnottrans (who sometimes derisively refers to Bardfinn as Goth Dad). I don't like kiwifarms and don't care about the details of Bardfinn's personal life, but the documentation of how he's been stalking and targeting reddit users for months is interesting.

https://kiwifarms.net/search/3326913/?q=bardfinn&c[users]=Nykysnottrans&o=date

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/tranny-sideshows-on-social-media.33028/page-499#post-5384528

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trump-enslavement-syndrome.25213/page-90#post-6083270

Be a bit sceptical though, there's claims Bardfinn has cp which I personally don't believe, as I think the only evidence of that was an easily faked discord screenshot. Unlike screenshots of Bardfinn's reddit posts, which can be verified to exist, and Nykysnottrans had to walk back on his claims that Peter Pawlowski was involved with reddit's masstagger.

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/tranny-sideshows-on-social-media.33028/page-517#post-5424300

Example of Bardfinn admitting to massive cyberstalking (lol this man has no grounds to complain about kiwifarms):

https://web.archive.org/web/20200710214605/https://old.reddit.com/r/GenderCynical/comments/hhb6to/take_it_up_with_calvin_klein_and_not_your_echo/fwc6szm/

I'm calling bullshit on Bardfinn's claims of terfs wanting to "take care of that TIM", I never saw anyone in GC talking about him, if they had been aware of what Bardfinn was up to they wouldn't have been taken aback by the ban. Magdalen Berns also never said anything against jews, she linked a news article about Soros because he was a billionaire.

Nykysnottrans on Bardfinn:

Bardfinn imagines himself some kind of Nazi hunter on the website and that fantasy of grandeur gives his miserable life direction, purpose and meaning. He has something to get up for in the morning, he's going to track down and catch the Nazis on Reddit, and since he's a delusional paranoid and sees Nazis and Nazi conspiracies everywhere, there's always something for him to do and to keep his feverish broken crazy brain preoccupied with. It's the same reason people in East Germany became inoffizielle mitarbeiter and collaborated with the Stasi, it made them feel imporant to spy on their neighbors and narc them to the state security service.

Surveillance is a very powerful drug and Bardfinn is an addict because he has the full blessings of Reddit to cyberstalk, profile and blacklist their unassuming users going about their business, unaware that Bardfinn is doing all this behind their back, until one day Bardfinn suddenly corners them in a angry reply comment with: "I see you have been posting a lot in /r/WhateverDude and /r/SFWdude, you are one of dem Nazis aren't you, I been watchin'ya boy." Bardfinn wants to infect everyone on Reddit with his own PTSD hypervigilance, cornering hapless users to let them know he's been cyberstalking them to intimidate them with the knowledge they're being watched is how he does it.

It would be wonderful if Bardfinn was now used as a test-case for Reddit's anti harassment rules, because if there is one massive cyberstalker on the site following users around and letting them know they are being followed for the purpose of driving them off the site (the rules appear to specifically ban that) it's obviously Bardfinn and his bunch.

https://web.archive.org/web/20200710223944/https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/dbf9nj/changes_to_our_policy_against_bullying_and/

Here's Bardfinn saying "r/ItsAFetish's hate content is my new prime project" because he claims there's evidence that many of the posters are "anti-semitic white supremacists" https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/iwarnedyouterfshescomingforyou-jpg.1416872/

But of course, he has never ever made this supposed "evidence" public, and has never been asked or made to either. We just have to take him at his word that he's telling the truth about the alt-right manipulating /r/GenderCritical and laughing about how easy it is - because as a lifelong psychiatric patient by his own public admission, he's obviously so reliable. Because if he did, if Bardfinn was forced to make his supposed "research" public that led to all these bans, Reddit would have to answer for the fact that they're allowing their users to be cyberstalked and profiled behind their backs by this guy - which is in violation of many laws, including EU laws.

I would not be at all surprised if it turns out (and I don't have any proof for this, it's just the worst case scenario I can come up with) that Reddit were paying Bardfinn under the table to cyberstalk and data-mine their users for them in order to make it seem like they were "doing something about the Nazis on the site" and that "self-policing on the part of our community of mods is really working".

There is no self-policing here, there's only a feverish, controlfreak, obsessive, paranoid mod with a horrible reputation amongst the user base getting increasingly more powerhungry, openly hostile, intimidating and downright condescending towards random hapless users and the mods of all the subs he hates. Anyone who honestly believes that /r/detrans are white power neonazis collaborating with fascists belongs in a mental hospital away from all computers strapped to a bed vomitting on themselves from the high dose tranquilizers, not on Reddit moderating anything.

As to why Reddit is tolerating him, that's what every Reddit user and moderator who has encountered this persistent pest and menace has been asking themselves: How is this vermin allowed to wreck havoc on Reddit so openly and for so long? Answer: very likely because he claims to know Steve Huffman aka spez (Reddit's CEO) personally. It's most likely through pure nepotism that he's able to get away with all this.

It seems the mods of /r/detrans are unaware of how Bardfinn has been targeting them for months. Maybe someone should tell them, but don't be surprised if doing so results in reddit banning all your accounts:

https://web.archive.org/web/20200710224507/https://old.reddit.com/r/detrans/comments/how0eu/this_subreddit_showed_that_it_was_banned_and_now/fxkcu3j/

TheBeefBenson · 2021-03-03T06:18:36+00:00

It's the UK. You can't get pepper spray.

TheBeefBenson · 2021-01-09T03:19:47+00:00

There is little to no point in this meritocracy when the quality of education is so poor. Furthermore the amount of private tuition you have to pay for in order to attain a place at these universities to begin with, and the allocation of resources for education being geared towards China's main cities, means that the poorest only get the chance at a sub standard education.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-10-29T03:20:54+00:00

When I was made aware of the whole trans debacle I decided to have a browse of the lesbian subs to see what was going on and who were the types of people posting. What I noticed was that very few of the women posting on Lesbian Actually (the lesbian selfie sub) were posting on Actual Lesbians anymore or on LGBT subs either. So from my casual observations it seems like there are actually very few women left on al.

TheBeefBenson · 2021-02-18T08:35:25+00:00

No. You need to stop making gross caricatures because I sincerely doubt that these conservative women in the US actually prescribe to the belief of women only being of value as wives and mothers that you claim they do. Furthermore, it's clear that you see these beliefs as evidently and undoubtedly inherent to the conservative world view and that such fundamental tenants would apply to either side of the anglo-sphere.

Bigoted is an accurate remark to describe those who engage in rank political tribalism and are totally incapable of being able to fairly discuss the opinions of others without being disingenuous.

For all your talk of wanting to work with these women you seem to be pretty quick in referring to them as nothing more than deluded pond scum behind their backs.

The sheer snobbery and contempt you have have shown for these women is understanably enraging and you need to develop a more mature way of engaging with women as a group rather than taking any opportunity to slander and misrepresent them to make yourself feel superior.

Good day, Mam!

TheBeefBenson · 2020-11-27T08:50:00+00:00

Being mentally handicapped isn't a sexuality.

TheBeefBenson · 2021-07-20T00:26:56+00:00

What's going on with the incident in Scotland btw? I hope that lady is OK.

TheBeefBenson · 2021-03-23T23:14:58+00:00

They've just wiped bad uk and made it private. It's locked and all my comments have been deleted. That was the only sub I routinely visited.

Update: jannies are just looking it for the night because people might post the peado supporter's name.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-07-13T05:11:15+00:00

Surely you acknowledge there were civilisations that existed before the US? And that is still conscription for the majority of the US history as a formal nation. Conscription of men to fight has existed for ever...it was just conscription with a lower case c, It didn't exist in a legal framework because there was no legal framework for serfs.

TheBeefBenson · 2021-04-24T23:43:16+00:00

It is 2 + 2 = 5 at it's most fundamental and ever present level. The propaganda of authoritarian left wing states is designed to humiliate the individual, and destroy the concept that they can rationally deduce reality for themselves.

TheBeefBenson · 2021-02-18T18:38:52+00:00

This is what you said:

"while women who believe women should be wives and mother only".

I have not misrepresented anything at all. That was a totally disingenuous description of the views of the majority of the conservative women involved in this particular struggle. Those women who may actually hold to those beliefs would be such an insignificantly tiny minority that it is simply slanderous to characterize these conservative women as a whole with that summary of their beliefs. It is an example of snobbish and conceited behavior and not one that encourages any sort of helpful union across the political divide. That is probably the reason people up-voted my comment.

As to your remark on not attacking the person; calling out poor behavior in someone's argument is not a personal attack. I have made absolutely no ad hominen attacks against you. I have taken some poetic liberties with the manner in which you have said this, but this was to illustrate the dismissive stance you have towards women who identify as conservative.

And whether my perspective is male or not, I know how to spot someone who is being disingenuous and unfair.

Lastly my mother was not an abortion activist. She was a therapist. And I am saying to you exactly what I think she would have said to you. She was deeply concerned by this assault on women's safety and rights and I am continuing this struggle in her memory with the opinions and beliefs she held.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-10-15T01:49:11+00:00

And then, like many men, my thoughts went to my penis and I sprayed it there.

I'll be honest, after reading that statement I'm extremely sceptical about you and your whole experience.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-08-08T15:36:18+00:00

It's really cheered me up reading that, so thank you.

Although I can understand being suspicious of certain people and movements that you may consider to be fairweather friends, like Trump (though I really don't think he's that bad of a guy), there comes a point where it's being puritanical and bigoted rather than just being cautious.

Everyone seems so tribal and cultish these days...

Anyway, let me tell you about this great guy called L. Ron Hubbard. ;)

TheBeefBenson · 2020-11-01T06:31:06+00:00

Sometimes I really wish I didn't know how to read.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-07-13T02:11:42+00:00

That Jew did not found the movement. That's simply a complete lie.

Can you provide some sort of evidence for the claim that a disproportionate number of paedophile supporters are Jews and explain how that translates to all Jews?

Because white men are disproportionately convicted of pedophilia. Does that mean that whites are paedophiles?

TheBeefBenson · 2020-07-11T14:08:20+00:00

That's something that I think the feminists needs to think about, actually. These autogynophelic TIMs are far more vitriolic, deranged and perverse than even scumbag males tend to be. That when they stopped identifying as men they lost all restraint.

Edit: they never become women. Only imitate fetishsied stereotypes.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-07-11T05:35:29+00:00

This was amazing and I've passed it forward.

That person's projection is astounding.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-10-19T02:54:35+00:00

No. The title summed it up perfectly. Meritocracy is the antithesis of affording privilege based on any identifying markers except personal achievement.

And absolutely everything said there was complete garbage. Acknowledging that there are in fact majority Asian American schools and then immediately after calling the concept a myth.

It is they who engage in binary thinking, only they inverse the concepts.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-07-14T23:58:32+00:00

I totally get that. I'm sorry if I came across as belittling I'm just very firm with making sure people see each other as individuals first. Immutable characteristics should never be used for slander. But I can understand why you were angry enough to use those terms. It's depressingly accurate, isn't it.

You seem like a genuinely lovely women, by the way, and it angers me to hear that you received such an appalling comment. These neo nazis really are the scum of the earth.

Hey, here's a thought. Ask him if he doesn't think women are human does that means he's gay or into bestiality. Or is he hoping to gesticulate some offspring in the cum sock under his bed.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-07-13T05:32:50+00:00

Why am I not surprised you're an anti-vaxer...

You literally just called all jews sub human and are morally outraged because one jew said the same thing about you.

Dude..

TheBeefBenson · 2020-07-13T05:22:53+00:00

You can't even see the hypocrisy of what you've just done can you?

And since the man who created the polio vaccine was Jewish I expect you won't be having your kids vaccinated for it then? Oh and I hope you've never taken penicillin either because the guy who invented that was also Jewish. If penicillin has cured you surely your life is now forfeit?

TheBeefBenson · 2021-09-08T18:26:33+00:00

The Guardian was forced to pull some of the comments she made as she inferred that if you don't support every single part of trans ideology then it's because you are a fascist.

https://eoinhiggins.substack.com/p/guardian-pulls-judith-butlers-comments

TheBeefBenson · 2021-07-10T09:23:47+00:00

Dude, that was bangin!

TheBeefBenson · 2021-05-12T10:14:20+00:00

I honestly just feel really sorry for her.

TheBeefBenson · 2021-03-03T11:39:38+00:00

You can legally carry a folding knife in the UK, without having to provide a reason for carrying it, as long as the blade is under three inches, it doesn't have a locking mechanism (not including finger locks - where the blade can't shut because your finger is safely stopping it), it isn't disguised as anything else, and now with the ban on "zombie knives" doesn't have any violent words, symbols or pictures drawn on it (yes the UK offensive weapons bill is actually that absurd). Now you might not necessarily be able to take it everywhere you like but if found all the police can do is take it from you. It's not an offense to carry it.

I would also not recommend carrying it unless you would be actually prepared to use it. Brandishing it and not using it is potentially as dangerous as not having it all. However, a quick slash to the face will probably accomplish what you need it to. But I would routinely practice those moves along with taking up mixed martial arts (grappling, striking and kicking). Don't bother with "self defense". There is no defense. You're either learning to fight or you're learning to pretend to fight. If you're learning to fight learn styles that people consistently need to win with in a competitive environment.

Tactical pens, that come with tungsten glass breakers at one end, are also available because it is after all just a pen.

As to prosecution... There was a case about a year ago where an inebriated woman, for absolutely no reason (as confirmed by cctv and numerous eye witnesses including other woman) glassed a man in the face in a bar in the UK. As heinous as the act was and even though it was her second offense for a similar violent act she didn't even have to serve any time in prison. She was let off with a small fine. Now, although I don't agree with the leniency this clearly dangerous woman was treated with, it goes to show that the courts are not keen on sentencing women for violent acts against men at all. A violent act against a man, even with a weapon, where there is no evidence to prove you were the unprovoked aggressor, and where you provide testimony arguing that you believed you were facing an imminent threat of a violent sexual assault (you don't even need to have been attacked, just that your average person can see why you thought you were going to be attacked), will mostly not lead to any prosecution.

And even if you are prosecuted and sentenced, it's women's prison, you'll be ok.

TheBeefBenson · 2021-02-18T19:53:08+00:00

Good luck, and I mean that sincerely. I hope the conservative women you will find yourself marching with are more open minded to your beliefs than you have been to theirs.

TheBeefBenson · 2021-01-22T19:58:19+00:00

I have to admit that I didn't see evidence of this reliance or a decrease in support from the secular right. Furthermore I just can't imagine abortion being banned in the states.... it just seems like paranoia tbh. I think the women here who voted for Biden gave in to an imaginary threat rather than keeping focus on the real one. Well, you reap what you sow.

TheBeefBenson · 2021-01-22T08:50:26+00:00

Why would they think that Trump wanted to take away abortion? I don't recall him having a strong opinion on the matter.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-10-25T02:58:42+00:00

Did you mean to put that the other way around?

TheBeefBenson · 2020-10-15T08:29:12+00:00

It's not the levels of discomfort that I'm sceptical of. Rather whether you actually did that to yourself and, to be quite frank, whether you are a man at all and if you are a man if you're on this sub for the right reasons.

You see pepperspraying not just your own face but then also your genitals is something the Jackass crew, or even the Dirty Sanchez boys, would probably take a rain check on. And even if they did do it they'd be doing it for laughs, money or both. So their motivations are understandable, if not always agreeable to everyone. But you seem to have just knowingly harmed your face, with a substance you knew to be out of date and therefore potentially dangerous, for absolutely no reason at all. The explanation you gave as to why you then did that to your genitals too is utterly baffling to me. Because, as a man, I can say for a certainty that men DO NOT think about their penises all the time.... if we rarely ever do. We think about sex a fair bit more than women it's true, and there's nothing wrong with that, but we don't really have much thought towards our own genitals. Why would our own genitals be the focus of our attention? And we most certainly don't think to harm them on a whim... unless of course the man has a fetish.

Seriously, what kind of man would go:

"oh god! Pepperspraying my face really hurt' Suppose I should do it to my penis as well because I'm a man and men always think about their penises. DUH!"

I would hate to know what happens when you feel you need a shave.

This opinion you have of men is such a gross caricature it's clearly written to conform to a very radical and ignorant set of prejudices. Which leads me to speculate whether you're a man at all, since you have some very bizarre ideas of how men think about their bodies, or if you are in fact a man whether you're engaging in some sort of humiliation fetish. I think the later is more likely to be honest. This reads more like what a man imagining what he thinks rad fems want to hear rather than what rad fems actually think. But then again you did get quite a lot of upvotes so maybe this is the kind of stuff they like to hear and believe. So if you are a fetishist it seems you've hit gold, buddy.

And tbf there's nothing wrong with having a fetish, as long as consent is part of your desires (otherwise get help). But I do think there's a time and a place for it and I don't think it's here and now... but then again maybe I'm wrong. As I said before, the ladies here seem to like what you have to say so as long as everyone's happy with the arrangement then you lot just go on being your best selves. Though the irony of the rad fems facilitating a male fetish is just too priceless.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-08-08T15:06:26+00:00

Absolute gold. Stealing it.

I suspect the jew jokes will be along shortly.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-07-14T18:55:17+00:00

Well they certainly hate trump for that reason, or so they say, so it's only fair to give Soros the same treatment.

However, I think it's just been drilled in so thoroughly, by left wing media unsurprisingly, that criticising Soros is a far right talking point that they've grown to accept it.

Lastly, I think many people are still confused about the difference between being a leftie and being a liberal.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-07-13T15:26:18+00:00

I'm describing comments calling the Jews fundamentally evil as vitriolic nonsense.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-07-13T13:50:39+00:00

I was indeed referring to any kind of situation whereby men were enlisted to fight against their will. But I don't see how the military worth of peasant levies is relevant to the discussion at all.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-07-13T02:02:45+00:00

So you are saying that most Jews are supporting paedophiles, then. Even though the source you linked just points out one Jew who is a paedophile. What does his being Jewish have to so with the majority of Jews?

TheBeefBenson · 2020-07-12T23:50:59+00:00

Well they will certainly be free to speak without bias, no one is compelling bias, but that doesn't mean people will be unbiased. My argument is that those who are clearly biased against all individuals of a group based on the immutable characteristics of those individuals, race and sex, should not be allowed to display such biases in a neutral environment. It invalidates the concept of it being neutral as it becomes dominated by people with a bias that refuses to accept individuality.

My bias is against these biases taking over the site. That's it.

"When youfuck it up again"

Seems to me the alt right is the one that consistently fucks up it's platforms.

Well if Voat is so awesome why don't you stay there? Why come here at all?

Edit: if you're going to edit your comment at least have the decency to say it.

You originally said "people will be able to... ,without bias."

TheBeefBenson · 2020-07-08T12:33:59+00:00

I don't know why you would want to. There's 4/chan and Voat for memes and counter-currents and the the Occidental Observer for serious discussions. You won't convert any new people, since they already have the opportunity to accept the premise and don't, and it doesn't translate into a real world political movement anyway. Ultimately there's nothing helpful about discussing the JQ. It doesn't make a shed of difference other than pushing centrist people away and back on to platforms controlled by the far left. You're taking an opportunity to entrench the neuteal middle ground, and trying to steal the tools to build a position on the far right that people don't want to be part of anyway. At least if you fortify the centre it acts as a buffer for you and people have the freedom to move further right if they wish.

So it's up to you dude. Rant about the JQ all you like but you'll only be shooting yourself in the foot,and everyone else for that matter.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-07-08T12:11:48+00:00

Man rapes woman: woman probably can't physically stop the intercourse from happening, she does not need to be physically aroused for the intercourse to occur, woman has foreign object placed inside her which she can't do anything about.

Woman "rapes" man: man can physically stop the intercourse from happening, man has to be physically aroused for the intercourse to occur, man doesn't have foreign object placed inside of him which he can't do anything about.

These two things are not the same.

So enough with this pathetic MRA bullshit. Women cannot rape men in the fashion you are describing. You literally couldn't have fucked her unless you were down to fuck. And none of this blah blah equality bullshit. Men and women are different. Though they have equal rights the outcomes are not always equal and what they are capable of is not always equal either.

Grow the fuck up and go peddle your fantasies on reddit.

TheBeefBenson · 2021-04-17T14:36:58+00:00

Wtf is this? This is total bullshit.

The part about Sargon using the word "nigger" was in reference to when he was arguing against a group of white supremacists and accused them of acting in the same way that they accuse black people of acting like. His point was that they call black people "niggers" but they then go act in the same way thus making then "niggers" too. So Sargon saying "I won't apologise for being naughty to Nazis" has nothing to do with Jess Phillip's. This guy has cut it up to make it clear that way and hasn't done a good job of it.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-07-29T23:30:41+00:00

Ad hominems are not supported under the pyramid of debate.

And you're the ones claiming we're bringing the quality of the site down.

If AHS are on this site then I suspect they'd be larping as white supremacists not as classical liberals. You see, they actually need to point to white supremacism on free speech sites in order to attempt to have them taken down.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-07-13T01:11:48+00:00

What is he projecting? That he secretly wants to go to Voat? :s

TheBeefBenson · 2020-07-04T04:07:07+00:00

flat earthers real discussion

My sides are in orbit. That means they're circling the globe if you're new to that concept.

TheBeefBenson · 2021-07-06T01:04:48+00:00

No. Alt right means neo nazi/white nationalist. He is a classical liberal. He has a number of videos explaining his political position and put in considerable effort in to combating and debating the alt right. The alt right hate him more than they do the left. They were actually really quite awful to him and laughed at him when they found out his wife had a miscarriage. That's honestly how much the alt right hate him.

He most assuredly is an anti feminist though... but with feminism being represented by the likes of Anita Sarkeesuan, can you really blame him?

It's important to remember that many people are of the opinion that one can support equality between the sexes without being a feminist. Similar to how one can support worker's rights without being a Marxist. Or be for socialised health care without being a socialist etc.

TheBeefBenson · 2021-04-01T01:37:28+00:00

Dude, there's this thing you should try called reading all of the post. It's an excellent way of not making yourself look like a tit.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-07-19T09:52:40+00:00

Your Mrs is going to be so jelly.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-07-15T00:18:42+00:00

Lmao. Sorry for misgendering you, bro. Please don't cart me off to the gulag lol.

Dude sounds like if he had an enema they wouldn't know where to put the pipe.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-07-14T23:09:58+00:00

Left wing is anything which is government by the people rather than an elite.

The age old utopian delusion of the left. If they govern you they will make themselves an elite. The only thing you can do to ensure the liberty of the people is to limit the power the government wields.

And this dichotomy you're creating is the absolute opposite of reality. Left wing societies are always governed by this ivory tower, champagne socialist elite, because that's what the left wing is. The naive masses who huddle round the authority of the state and the sociopathic opportunists who are all too happy to have authority over them. Libertarianism and anarchism are right wing positions, buddy.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-07-13T00:39:44+00:00

"We can talk about anything you like, just don't be rude and fundamentally biased against people for things they can't help"

TheBeefBenson · 2020-07-02T16:46:48+00:00

I'm sure at some point in history some drunk, crazy, homeless, crackhead figured out an important truth and yelled it out at passers by... in the middle of a sea of other crazy, meth heads who were talking absolute rubbish. Should we let them all take centre stage of a platform designed for good discussions, or have some sort of code of conduct?

I don't think posts that essentially just say "da Jews dun did it" or look to frame every black person like they're an ape or a criminal have any place in reasonable discourse. Even under the pyramid of debate rule absolute nonsense can take over the site if extremist looms are allowed to take it over.

I don't want to see this platform become another Voat and it will.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-07-02T16:33:53+00:00

ASOIAF again... for the 16th time. Hey, is there a ASOIAF sub here?

TheBeefBenson · 2020-07-02T15:09:08+00:00

I am not in favour of out right censorship but we need to make s/all a welcoming neutral place if saidit is going to grow and survive. People don't want to visit /pol/ in reddit format. People don't want to see posts stirring up resentment and hatred based on race or sex or religion. Speech shouldn't be censored but it should be mature and aware of it's audience if it's taking up the central stage, and if a person isn't willing to do that then they should be put in their own room with others like themselves. So I think any sub that allows content that is off the classically liberal center, that which a moderate left winger and moderate right winger could usually agree on or politely agree to disagree, should be removed from s/all instead of moderate subs being forced to remove themselves if they don't want to have to deal with randoms wandering into their sub from the online equivalent of a Nuremberg rally. Saidit's aim should be trying to be a reflection of what the majority of the people in the western world think, whilst allowing the radicals a space at the back. And race baiters and supremacists have never been part of the west's center stage. It's been 80 years since WWII and racial supremacism is as repellent now as it was then.

Polite speech and free speech are not mutually exclusive.

TheBeefBenson · 2022-05-17T17:47:00+00:00

Kelly Jay Keen/Posie Parker does not even identify as a feminist so... shut your idiot mouth maybe?

TheBeefBenson · 2021-04-10T12:58:22+00:00

You mean the damage to the natural environment?

TheBeefBenson · 2021-04-10T07:21:09+00:00

You don't think the world is over populated?

TheBeefBenson · 2021-02-13T10:53:34+00:00

Philosophy Tube went trans?! Fucking lol.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-12-13T08:56:33+00:00

"Listen, son" Said the man with the gun, "There's room for you inside."

Ain't that appropriate.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-10-14T08:38:14+00:00

Not really agreeing with the rest of everything Reptilian said there, which seemed to be an unhelpful tangent, but your comparisons of ACB's slip up to authoritarian control of language is just silly. It's authoritarian propaganda when it's used as an intentional effort to subvert reality. Not just a harmless mistake by one person who doesn't seem to know all that much.

And quite frankly, who would you rather have in a position of such authority at the moment. Someone who keeps their nose out of LGBT affairs, or someone who's really "down" with being an ally... because I know which is going to be more likely to support the TRAs and whose not. Give you a clue, it isn't the first one.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-07-30T16:44:37+00:00

So should we get rid of most world mythology before or after we lock him up? Because incest abounds in a lot of it. Even Tolkien had an incestuous affair in the Children of Hurin.

If you read his depictions of incest as something that was meant to arouse the reader then you're the one with the problem, I'm afraid.

And no, interest in the books hasn't declined. The show was only ever entertainment but the books are, quite frankly, the most fascinating work of "fantasy" ever written. I say "fantasy" because what Martin has attempted is to drag the genre, kicking and screaming, back towards mythology - an allegorical tragedy.

Lastly, A Song of Ice and Fire, is the most feminist work of "fantasy" I've ever read. Martin is a noted feminist after all. Don't believe me? Then explain why the vast majority of commenters on the books, on both the forums and youtube are women; all of whom see it as a feminist text. Please, at least read this short essay, it will give you a brief insight into what Martin is trying to say:

https://plowmanskeep.wordpress.com/2019/09/02/the-great-goddess-in-asoiaf-part-i/

Unless of course your brand of feminism believes that even depicting sex in writing is fundamentally evil and abusive. Which might explain why so many women would rather put up with dealing with "trans" rather than come anywhere need the convent of anti-sex feminism.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-07-30T00:04:21+00:00

All cool, mate. Hey, got an interesting story about an AHS defector. This was back when they were posting indecent images of children to the Subreddits that called out their bullshit. All the far right subs were already gone by this point so it was literally subs dedicated to monitoring reddit's censorship. So this guy came forward and made a youtube video, which was deleted shortly after. He said that after he was recruited by AHS they were the ones who helped him "discover" he was trans.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-07-26T05:33:55+00:00

Alright you shlags

TheBeefBenson · 2020-07-19T09:50:28+00:00

Dude, meant to tell you I'm trying to make the move to Ruqqus. You see way less of this stuff there and there's more of an atmosphere. If you're in touch with the ladies over at GC let them now about it too. I know they have a page on there already but the server problems probably spooked them away, and hopefully they can tell the Lesbians as well. Someo smart lady managed to bag that guild before a porn account took it.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-07-13T07:17:58+00:00

His argument. Jews only produce evil.

My argument. Jews do not only produce evil if they even regularly produce evil at all or at least anymore than any other group does.

Your argument: "so you're saying gentiles can't do anything without the jews"

Edit: but you were certainly right to call me up on the penicillin. I distinctly remember seeing a plaque at Oxford commemorating a Jewish scientist for his work in the field and this is what caused my lapse.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-07-13T03:44:08+00:00

How then can you force an objective standard on people who are inevitably going to view any objective standard or information through their own subjective lens? Forcing any "objective standard" of truth is just an erroneous way to define what is and isn't acceptable along arbitrary lines.

There you go, "forcing an objective standard of truth", something I wasn't petitioning for.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-07-13T03:30:36+00:00

Well whoever you're siding with you don't seem to mind misrepresenting someone's point.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-07-13T03:24:30+00:00

I disagree with the assertion that there is no objective information. Seems to me that your siding with the Frankfurt school on that one. Which you're free to do... but not something I expected.

You're intentionally misrepresenting what I'm saying there. You're claiming that I'm trying to impose an objective standard of truth on a discussion but my comment clearly states that I'm saying that we need to work towards an "objectively" good means of having a discussion, whereby bias based on immutable characteristics, thus invalidating any notion of the individual, is shunned.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-07-13T00:06:52+00:00

My statement was never against reasoned arguments. I made it quite clear. Generalisations and insults based on immutable characteristics are not good arguments and they impede a healthy discussion. I am not saying anyone needs to be an arbiter of truth, just etiquette.

A "healthy discussion" is where people discuss in good faith and respect the individual merit of the other person and their arguments and do not launch attacks against the other person or other people based solely on their own biases against immutable characteristics.

What I despise is the "it's subjective" argument as almost everything is subjective. We should be working towards an "objective" standard of the health of discourse whereby people with opposing views can discuss things with respect.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-07-04T04:24:45+00:00

Getting Enemy flashbacks.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-07-03T07:38:15+00:00

I got angry at my housemate and punched a hole through the dry wall. My other housemate dubbed me with this name and I hold the title with honour.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-12-09T02:25:06+00:00

I'm not saying there aren't nefarious agendas at work in the education system but the aim of this training seems to be teaching staff to recognise behaviour in children that would indicate they've faced sexual abuse. It's doing the opposite of what people are accusing it of doing.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-12-05T01:18:00+00:00

You met me at a very strange time in my life.

TheBeefBenson · 2020-07-02T20:19:39+00:00

I'm even lazier. I wait for someone else to do it for me. Lol

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