If you were the head of Alt Right government,would you promote liberalism in the third world? by Nasser in debatealtright

[–]Talmudstein 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I know you said that you haven't developed much ideas about this but I'd be interested to hear some more of your thoughts on this in-depth if you have any. The "alt-right"/Third Positionists definitely need to go in this direction and move away from tired and outdated interwar rhetoric.

POLL: After Macron Blip, Majority of French Still Hostile to Globalism by lolhedabbin in debatealtright

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Yes. The silent presumption of liberalism is that those within the society naturally agree with liberalism and the purpose of so-called "democratic processes" is to come to solutions within the liberal democratic paradigm. This is why the most effective democracies are largely homogenous, small-population societies with generally similar values, such as local bodies. This is also why I think the 1990s are seen as such a peak for democracy, most of political movements in 90s Western governments whether left or right moved towards a sort of mono-neoliberalism but we see this break down and unravel as more radical figures push the "overton window" outwards again.

If you were the head of Alt Right government,would you promote liberalism in the third world? by Nasser in debatealtright

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I agree with your thinking, I've thought this for a long time. It should not be anti-globalism, it should be alternative globalism. As you said, globalism is an inevitable result of technological advance and it is delusional to hope society is going to embrace some form of ludditism. What is needed is to develop an alternative to end goals of liberalism and communism.

My personal opinion is that perennialism may provide the ideological packing of a neo-3rd position which would believe that all traditions have elements of truth in them (due to the vague similarity of even distant religious beliefs) for the universal truth (not in a religious sense, but more of a secular "This is how things should be" sense). A sort of "intersectional traditionalism", based on mutual respect of traditions as the best way to uphold their respective social orders. The only issue is that I believe this would need to be theorised in a manner that is not just reactionary to liberalism or communism. (This is just my limited thoughts on the topic)

Libya is now a symbol of the West's decline and the rise of the illiberal civilization-states by Ethnocrat in debatealtright

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Its on a ceasefire now, I think for foreseeable future it will stay that way because Turkey, Egypt and Russia have all embedded their own forces with their respective proxies which means any clashes now would result in a regional war that no one would want. Its basicially just North Korea-South Korea-style standstill from now on.

If you were the head of Alt Right government,would you promote liberalism in the third world? by Nasser in debatealtright

[–]Talmudstein 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No.

  • Third world birth rates are irrelevant when people there generally don't have the living standards, either nature or politics takes its course someway or another to balance things out and their environmental impact is generally relatively low in terms of carbon emissions (the majority of pollution and carbon emissions from these states are a result of their industrial capacities due to off-shoring and cheap exporting to the West, returning manufacturing jobs can probably allow more environmental industry even if it does lead to higher prices and less consumer choice).

  • Third worlders migrating to Europe or North America could easily be stopped by a competent government. "Legal immigration" can be cut to zero by simply not allowing migrants from countries that you do not want, while "illegal migration" can be dealt with through numerous ways including restricting non-land based transport routes (eg: airports and maritime travel) and building Israeli-style border defences. In terms of the fears of a 2015-style mass migration movement, especially a vastly larger one which could come as a result of climate change, this could be easily dealt with militarily. I'm not a full-on ethno-nationalist or support such measures but like I said a competent government could come up with ways. Also, I think the social changes that an "alt-right" government would implement would probably make Western countries less attractive as a destination anyway considering migrants want to go to a liberal nanny state like modern Sweden where they can do what they want not the Third Reich or Papal States (Christian sharia). Thus no or little effort needs to be made on the international front to cut such migration.

  • Like you mentioned, a liberal state would inevitably be a source of inspiring liberalism under an "alt-right" government like the West is today an inspiration for democracy gay-ops worldwide or how communist revolutions would inspire communist revolutions in neighbouring countries. If Saudi Arabia was some hippy-dippy free-love state like Sweden or the UK are today and citizens of my regime were going their to "culturally enrich" themselves, I'd probably ban all access and communication with Saudi Arabia.

By the way, I'm not some harsh isolationist either but the objectively best mutual solution between the West and the Third World nations regardless of your ideological leaning is non-interference in internal affairs and bilateral/multilateral co-operation only where there is clear mutual benefit. Attempts to enforce democracy and liberalism in not just the Middle East but South America, East Asia and Africa clearly always fail and backfire. If anything, the opposite has shown to be the case. The most successful regimes in terms of lifting living standards or improving social progress have always been anti-colonial, anti-Western and anti-capitalistic movements which go on to establish authoritarian states. And when the West attempts to cause problems with these regimes, it always backfires and we see a total collapse.

I would only propagate liberalism to a hostile state, such as a certain Jewish state, because its clear subversion works. The "humanitarian" case for it is extremely weak in my opinion.

White pill for the day: NazBols alive and well in Russia by Courbeaux in debatealtright

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The most severe famine in Kazakhstan which depopulated the Kazakhs was orchestrated by Filipp Goloshchyokin, a Jew. Jews had a net growth (so did Russians) following the famine, while Kazakhs lost 20% of their population.

Cuckservative in action by ShiversRussia2017 in debatealtright

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That whole thread and subreddit are full of cuckservative takes regardless of whether its on Africa, abortion or whatever else, these people operate on a totally-different wave length. In many ways these ancap lolberts are far more worse in ideological terms than some tankie ancom troomer. I don't know why they use the term conservative, to be a CONSERV(e)ative you have to at least conserve something. Most of these lolberts want to remove everything from economic regulations that stop them from putting bleach in your water to society's discomfort with pedophilia.

On an unrelated note, the program seems like a waste of money regardless considering nature would take its course anyway. However, abortion is degenerate in my opinion on secular grounds not simply because it is a person killing their own progeny for inconvenience but also because it allows promiscuity without consequence (for both men and women) which leads to social decline. Although considering that, maybe we should be funding abortion centres in Israel not Africa...

White pill for the day: NazBols alive and well in Russia by Courbeaux in debatealtright

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While they are not openly pro-White because they wold be put in prison by PutinZOG if they were, they are clearly oriented toward the defence of ethnic Russians and are far more pro-White than the Duginists/Eurasianists with their Turkestanian miscegenation fantasies. Many of their campaigns recently have focused on the defense of the persecuted Russian population in Kazakhstan, a regime supported by Putinists and Duginists as "a brotherly Eurasian nation". The funny thing is back in the 2000s when National Bolshevism was discussed in western White Nationalist circles the general consensus seemed to be that Duginists were /ourguys/ and Limonovists were degenerate libshits. Currently it seems to be the opposite.

Why don't Russia and Russians just abandon Central Asia and other places like Chechnya? The only reason Russians are settled in those regions is because both the Imperial Russian government and the Soviets wanted to dilute the local identities. Kazakhstan itself was basically cleansed by Russians and Jews to the point that Kazakhs were not a majority in Kazakhstan until relatively recently. Most of the local ethnicities long to renew their Islamic and Turkic or Iranic heritage, just let them. European Russia has plenty of land populated by mostly Slavs, they could easily do a population exchange. Are the benefits of whatever natural resources or strategic value they provide really worth it?

Is there a leader in Europe half as worse as Boris Johnson? by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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Say what you will, American cops are far better. At least they stop some crime. Many local police often don't go with every oewllian diktat from DC.

The thing about American police is that there is not really such an institution as it, its a decentralised system of law enforcement where the federal government only really controls the FBI and other agency law enforcement such as ATM. Below that you have state police and state troopers and then below that there are county police and municipal/town police. I mean you have even separate Jewish and Muslim "police" in New York, while in some rural counties right-wing lolbert militias act as a police. The relationship between these different levels of policing is not as co-operative either, if anyone has watched a cop show before they should be aware of this and know there can be tensions.

This isn't a Blue Lives Matter/bootlicking post btw, even some of the more "based" county police can be corrupt in other regards. But the police in Somewhere, Alabama and Portland, Seattle are obviously not following the same leadership. Meanwhile, European police services are highly centralised.

Acting black to own the libs by cisheteroscum in debatealtright

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That was objectively awful.

How to have good, trad, LTR oriented dates? by Pink in debatealtright

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I'm not a Christian, but I don't know how anyone can read the Bible (OT, NT or both) and thinks any of those acts would be permissible. The Abrahamic religions are not 'sex positive'.

How to have good, trad, LTR oriented dates? by Pink in debatealtright

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1) Dating isn't "trad" by any past society's standards (Ancient Greece, Rome, the Germanic pagans, Christianity) and there is nothing conservative about promiscuity (what exactly are you conserving by being "promiscious"? your dignity? your virginity? what?). We should ideally return to a more chivalric culture of proposals and arranged marriages.

2) Any Christian person (male or female) who engages in pre-marital sexual activity, whether flirting, kissing, touching or sexual penetration (especially in a passage other than their vagina), is disobeying the clearly-stated religious laws of their holy texts and their validity of being a "conservative Christian" is laughable.

What do we do with people when industry/labour is fully or significantly automated? by Talmudstein in debatealtright

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Allison McDowell

I will look at them. Do you have recommended videos or speeches to start with?

One of the rappers Trump pardoned made a music video choking a Trump supporter by JuliusCaesar225 in debatealtright

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He ended his term by pardoning a bunch of hoodlums and corrupt Jews, giving amnesty to Venezuelans, making anti-semitism even more illegal and overturning a lobbying ban he originally did to "drain to swamp"...

"The UK will introduce a new visa at the end of January that will give 5.4 million Hong Kong residents - a staggering 70% of the territory's population - the right to come and live in the UK, and eventually become citizens." by JuliusCaesar225 in debatealtright

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b-b-b-b-bbbut a-atleast we removed those poles and lithuanians amarite! also this will show those CHICOMS, we'll just depopulate hong kong of all the anti-communists i'm sure they'll be losing sleep over that!

Do you think it is a good comparison to compare our current fight against replacement to the European wars of old? by Nasser in debatealtright

[–]Talmudstein 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well evoking battles of old is usually a good motivator, they even compare the current anti-COVID measures to WW2 in many countries. They are obviously functionally different, the issues of today are societal decay taken advantage of by subversion and parasitism while the main era of the Christo-Islamic conflicts were direct conflict between two distinct civilisations. If there is use in use this type of rhetoric, why not I guess?

The key historical milestones of Western decline. Which do you think is the most important? by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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The American Revolution is indeed a milestone in the general decline, but it could be on its own traced back to the Magna Carta, the Protestant Reformation and the development of liberalism in England.

The key historical milestones of Western decline. Which do you think is the most important? by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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Cringe bipedalist libtard, we all know it was the (((Cambrian explosion))). One minute we're living the trad single-cell good-life in our primordial underwater volcano colonies and then the next thousand years later we're grugs and grugettes monkey-mutts who are fornicating on land caves. It is all the fault of the (((trilobites))).

The key historical milestones of Western decline. Which do you think is the most important? by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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If you can't be bothered reading my autistic rambling: World War I.

The Protestant Reformation was generally the beginning, with the prior Renaissance arguably being the clearest "peak" of the West in terms of its cultural and societal development. From the Protestant Reformation, Anglo-liberalism formed and provided the strongest groundworks for what would become modern liberalism albeit failing to spread itself significantly outside of the Anglosphere (England, Scotland and the Thirteen Colonies). The French Revolution was when the ball of decline began to slowly roll down the steep, the first implementation of what could be seen as modern liberalism and its subsequent forceful spread across Europe through the French Revolutionary Wars. It saw the initial emancipation and normalisation of the Jews in society (obviously this was not instantly, but the Napoleonic puppet states were the first to do so), set liberalism (alongside Anglo-liberalism) as the norm which coupled with the Industrial Revolution and the fall of feudalism allowed the rise of the bourgeois as the dominant ruling class and the Jacobins provided the inspiration for what would become modern socialism from the likes of Fourier, Proudhon, the Paris Commune and eventually Marx. (I'd like to add I do not see the Enlightenment as wholesale detestable, but regardless of the good it also brought along with it much to disdain in hindsight). From then through the 1800s we began to see the slow dissolution of the social order, the extended family became the more capitalist-compatible nuclear family, personal liberty became desirable, rationalism was given priority as the way to ponder on the universe and the beginning of women's emancipation.

World War I was the catalyst of the effects that the Enlightenment brought upon the European empires, the competition that it fostered between them (escalated by a Enlightenment conception of ideas such as nationhood) finally became physical and their aristocratic governments used the sons of a generation as expendable pawns in a brutal war. It demonstrated the flaws of remnants of the archaic systems of old, it was now believed the people would probably be better making decisions. Modernism finally overcame tradition, this could be through the suffrage reforms of Lloyd George in Britain, the liberal revolution in Germany, the Bolshevik revolution in Russia. Plus it set the precedent upon which the world's second oldest and most well-developed ideologically liberal state the United States of America would become a dominant power. After this, we saw the first wave of the social changes of the 1900s. Women's suffrage became further spread, the hope of spreading literacy upon the whole population arose and we saw the prototypical stages of the sexual revolution. Of course, it was not as "happy" as this, the Great Depression came, Weimar fell to chaos and fascism arose. In the subsequent Great War we saw the last stand for opposition to the progressive liberalism of the Enlightenment in hopes of setting a new revolutionary path. This left the struggle between Jacobinism's son (Marxist socialism) vs Anglo-liberalism and Jacobinism's lovechild ("Free World" Capitalism). "Free World" Capitalism won, now we can finally contemplate on whether it was all worth it.

Judging from all this, the Protestant Reformation was the definite starting point (although you can go into the background of that and talk about the Renaissance's effects, proto-liberalism or proto-Protestantism) and the French Revolution really set the ball rolling. But I would say neither are really THE decisive point. While, I'd agree that the Bolshevik Revolution is important I wouldn't place that much importance on it. It is a symptom not a cause. I'd say it is one you didn't include, WW1. The Enlightenment's effects reaching their conclusion, ending in a cataclysm pushed on by archaic holdouts of a bygone age (aristocrats and monarchs). This all put ensured the final triumph of the progressive liberalism of the Enlightenment and began the post-Enlightenment age of neoliberalism, Bolshevism and progressivism.

Baked Alaska Arrested by weasel in debatealtright

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He did ye, but it was such a blatant grift. His famous "We Love our cops" music video even had a bunch of anti-J quotes hidden in it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mo8cE75hGbU

Baked Alaska Arrested by weasel in debatealtright

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He was but the sincerity of it is obviously doubtful, he started as alt-lite with Milo after leaving Buzzfeed but then in late-2016 he began his whole being edgy and harassing people grift when he realised it was more profitable for him so he started acting like a WN to appeal more to /pol/ directly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mo8cE75hGbU

Baked Alaska Arrested by weasel in debatealtright

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I don't think this is the end of Baked, I think he'll manage to get off lightly somehow or someway.

The decline of the West is rooted in the Anglo liberal tradition. Jew dominance is likely more a symptom than the cause. by JuliusCaesar225 in debatealtright

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A right to make decisions. Classical liberalism says people should be able to do what they want when they don't infringe on others.

And you cannot see how that devolved into the more decadent modern liberalism?

All types of collectivism

Well, in that case I would disagree that it is a disease. "Collectivism" is the natural state of things, humans are social creatures and seek to interact in plural groups. This ranges from the family, to the tribe, to the village and whatever higher form of grouping. Individualism is a decadence that arises in the comfort formed from "collectivism", when group identity ensures security than an individual may concentrate inwards. And the idea of the "NAP" and voluntaryism for infringement are arbitrary, effects can be more than direct attempts to interfere.

New Migrant Caravan inbound from Honduras by Garilova in debatealtright

[–]Talmudstein 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What does? The US is older than most Central American states.

The decline of the West is rooted in the Anglo liberal tradition. Jew dominance is likely more a symptom than the cause. by JuliusCaesar225 in debatealtright

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How do you define and what do you consider as "liberty"? And what exactly are you referring to when you say "socialism"?

The decline of the West is rooted in the Anglo liberal tradition. Jew dominance is likely more a symptom than the cause. by JuliusCaesar225 in debatealtright

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Capitalism is the worst example of a Darwinist system, it is dysgenic in terms of both social mobility and its effects on the populace.

The decline of the West is rooted in the Anglo liberal tradition. Jew dominance is likely more a symptom than the cause. by JuliusCaesar225 in debatealtright

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The Protestantism of Martin Luther and the various early modern Protestant theologians laid the groundwork upon which the Western conception of liberalism developed, even if the ideas exposed are radically different.

Liberalism, or classical liberalism to distinguish it from modern liberalism, owes its formulation to Thomas Hobbes (1588-1679) and John Locke (1632-1704). While they were not theologians like Martin Luther (1483-1546) and Jean Calvin (1509-1564), the ideas expounded by Hobbes and Locke cannot be dissociated from the development of Protestant thought in the post-Reformation Europe. Examined for its moral and spiritual implications, liberalism can indeed be regarded as a natural outgrowth of that individualistic outlook on life that the Protestant Reformation embraced and encouraged. As such, the value system liberalism promotes overlaps with the Protestant value system, which has played an important role in the modernization of the Western world.

http://www.theiiis.org/protestantism-and-classical-liberalism/

And before you say classical liberalism is not related to modern liberalism, classical liberalism was a development of egalitarianism and individualism and ideologies such as socialism, left-liberalism and anarchism are just derivations from the ideas originally exposed by classical liberals.

New Migrant Caravan inbound from Honduras by Garilova in debatealtright

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Nah, he would have negotiated with the Democrats an American Dream program to fast-track them all to citizenship in return for a $35 bln aid package to Orthodox Jewish communities in the West Bank. Art of the deal!

The decline of the West is rooted in the Anglo liberal tradition. Jew dominance is likely more a symptom than the cause. by JuliusCaesar225 in debatealtright

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It didn't, that's not the point. What is happening now is its logical progression.

New Migrant Caravan inbound from Honduras by Garilova in debatealtright

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Interventionism in Latin America is partially to blame for this (its not the sole cause but a very underrated one), if US corporations and glowiboos weren't so concerned over whether El Presidente Juarez of San Juan would nationalise the banana plantations or whether he'd let the CIA do their little smuggling operations then maybe these spics would be run by some semi-competent authoritarians who could provide them with at least running water and there'd be no gangs involved in drug trafficking operations making their neighbourhoods troublesome. I'm not saying they'd be utopias but they'd have no reason to leave then, they'd probably be contempt with their lives. They'd also probably be more based, if you compare Fidel Castro who actually did something about the homosexual question with Cuban-Americans like Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio. Actually, the Cuban boomers in Florida should be the first to go!

It's same thing with the Middle East and North Africa, if Isr*l wasn't always constantly pushing the US and NATO to mess with all the local despots than there would be no migrant crisis in Europe today.

New Migrant Caravan inbound from Honduras by Garilova in debatealtright

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What would have Trump done to stop this?

4 in 5 say US is falling apart: survey by Ethnocrat in debatealtright

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In what way?

Kosher pro-whiteness by ArchVileRespawned in debatealtright

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kek is that actually you in the pic?

Trump concedes: His supporters meltdown by TheJamesRocket in debatealtright

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I hope Trump's final screw-ups are enough to get at least some people to start jumping off the Trump train which is heading straight for a metaphorical broken track. For their own sake, these people just need to get on with their lives as best as they can. Awful President, only redeeming light for him being the past three idiots of this century were just as bad if not worst in their own ways.

In other news, Q has seemingly even "conceded" as well by saying he's going away for a while. I wonder what the Qtards will do, although it seems like "Q" still wants them to be "believing". To be honest my personal theory on Q is a mix of the idea that its the Watkins family LARPing and a Government/Trump campaign psyop, whereby Watkins & son and some feds/paid data analyst-types co-operate, so if I'm right I honestly think its possibly maybe the Feds will continue the whole Q larp even after Trump goes simply because it is both a useful boogeyman and a great way to pacify a bunch of useless idiots.

Martin Sellner now listed amongst the world's top 20 extremists by Jacinda in debatealtright

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I'm more surprised of the inclusion of Hassan Nasrallah as #1. Hezbollah is definitely not extreme. Also lol, a large amount of people on that list have never killed anyone and their main crime is "promoting anti-semitism" or "being a huge critic of Israel". Of course, this site is ran by an ex-Bush bureaucrat, his ex-boss has probably killed more people than anyone on there combined.

I've got some better proposals for them. How about Prime Minister of Israel Benjamin Netanyahu who oversees the ethnic cleansing of the West Bank and endorsed a rabbi who said it should be legal to kill goyim? Or Little Ben Shapiro and his news articles advocating for bulldozing Palestinian homes.

The Game is Up – and the Jews Know It by cisheteroscum in debatealtright

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Great post.

I have nothing to add but here's some high IQ Zionist pilpul I saw today lol

https://mobile.twitter.com/HenMazzig/status/1348367794937729027

So I've had two different accounts banned by Magnora at this point. Is it time to migrate? Where to? by Mastermustard in debatealtright

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People have done it, there is an article on the front-page of this sub by Andrew Anglin and he talks about how he has previously done it. It is indeed ironic that residents of the supposed "Free World" have to go to Russia or China for free speech. This is the world we live in now, welcome to Cold War 2.0 and the Decline of the West lol.

I think Iran, Syria or North Korea should set up their own web hosting services for Western dissidents, it'd be quite lucrative for them and they get to mess with America.

So I've had two different accounts banned by Magnora at this point. Is it time to migrate? Where to? by Mastermustard in debatealtright

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No offense but you need to be careful how you word things. Platforms like this walk an extremely tightrope (whether for good or bad, I'm not commenting on the rules or your statements in of itself) and even when they allow extremely controversial opinions they have their own limits. What you said can be interpreted as violating the rules of this site (see Rule 1, I know by pointing this out I may be violating Rule 2 but I don't mean this in a bad way personally just trying to inform you on some realities)

1) Rule 1: Follow all of saidit's sitewide rules. Extra emphasis on this rule against advocating violence. We do not care what the context is or even whether or not it is a joke.

If you want to say sentiments like that, say it in a more neutral manner and less like its your own opinion.

The standards aren't applied equally or fairly, even here.

So I've had two different accounts banned by Magnora at this point. Is it time to migrate? Where to? by Mastermustard in debatealtright

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Yes, you need a phone number for Telegram. I doubt Telegram will be safe for much longer though, most of its operational infrastructure such as servers are based either in EU/NATO countries or in countries with close ties to Israel (eg: UAE). With Parler gone, I imagine either Telegram will be next to face some repercussions or they will crack down on nationalists and other controversial people on their platform to spare themselves (its already in some trouble for having a lot of jihadists on there).

There's going to be a huge crackdown on "alt-tech" and unless they can become autonomous in terms of infrastructure and hosting or manage to move to Chinese or Russian-based hosting that don't rely on any Western infrastructure or back-end services (which will be difficult for platforms which will have people a bunch of users crying about the CCP/ChiComs/Xi/Hong Kong), there's not really much that can be done except hopping between sites or attempting to stay on a certain platform for as long as possible. Apps and sites will be continually facing ultimatums to either be denied the ability to even host themselves or to join in censorship. If you really don't trust it, close your account on whatever site and leave.

(I'm not trying to be blackpilling, just realistic)

The right must attack the sanctity of democracy and break its holiness in the eyes of normiecons by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

[–]Talmudstein 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How would you maintain ideology in the military? That's just the same problem but with guns and camo.

In the Middle East and Latin America, it is usually done by just not having civilian control of the military and making sure all the high-ranks and all the officer training schools are packed with ideological loyalists so you have a "deep state"/"state within a state" (originally meaning of the term was for right-wing military staffs during the Cold War). Of course, it is a very risky strategy and requires civilian control in the first place then relinquishing it.

Also, ye I've read parts of the Federalist Papers and it's kinda amusing what the different state of the things they proposed it now!

The right must attack the sanctity of democracy and break its holiness in the eyes of normiecons by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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Procedural checks and balances are ineffective and many eventually become near-impossible to implement. They also become useless once social dynamics change, sure the Democrats "adhere" to the Constitution but they are not Originalists (not that I would care, I don't care much for the Constitution). It is better to have a more practical system of checks and balances, such as an ideologically-loyal military or allowing the people to be armed.

The right must attack the sanctity of democracy and break its holiness in the eyes of normiecons by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

[–]Talmudstein 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What would you ideally replace it with?

A lot in the alt-right believe that democracy is a bad system of government, whether in its current form or generally as a principle. What do you think about monarchy as an alternative, and something to deconstruct modern democracy with for normies? by FriedrichLudwig in debatealtright

[–]Talmudstein 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I disagree.

Concretes succession

True to some extent, but hereditary monarchies are not immune from succession disputes which can lead to political instability. And there can be instances of dynasties dying off naturally without any remaining members or succession to incapacitated people, such as children or senile men.

somewhat apolitical figurehead

If they have any power, they will be inherently political and that will be known. The apolitical nature of monarchs only arose when constitutional monarchs appeared.

personification of the government

You can have this without a monarch, is Trump not the personification of his own government and the Trumpist movement?

Successors are already trained and guaranteed

This does not necessarily require the state be a monarchy. The Roman Republic had this, as do theocratic republics such as Iran and even socialist states.

Monarchy embodies lots of our values

I agree, although you do not necessarily need a monarchy either for this.

A lot in the alt-right believe that democracy is a bad system of government, whether in its current form or generally as a principle. What do you think about monarchy as an alternative, and something to deconstruct modern democracy with for normies? by FriedrichLudwig in debatealtright

[–]Talmudstein 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'd say even without liberalism and with rigid suffrage, democracy contains numerous problems of its own.

A lot in the alt-right believe that democracy is a bad system of government, whether in its current form or generally as a principle. What do you think about monarchy as an alternative, and something to deconstruct modern democracy with for normies? by FriedrichLudwig in debatealtright

[–]Talmudstein 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You make many interesting points, and I accept nearly all of them. On addition, I'd note that one of the ways that absolute monarchies provide more stability is their long-termist nature compared to democracy which must have its officials tied down by a time-limited mandate. Short-termism is a institutional problem for democracy in that it causes officials to prioritise appealing to immediate to short-term goals and objectives, even if they have long-term negative effects, in order to ensure that they can maintain the popularity to continue to hold their office. This also prevents the constant changes in the direction of the state due to changing governments and popular opinion. I remember reading a quote that sums this up, which I forgot the exact details and author of, which went a long the lines of "democracy is a constant cycles of revolutions and counter-revolutions". One decade you will have a government that does X, then you'll have a government that does Y and messes up all what the previous government worked to do in just two years. Obviously, such an erratic nature always causes fluctuations in the living standards and the prosperity of the nation.

However, I do believe that monarchy has some problems which makes it inferior to other absolutist and dictatorial systems. Firstly, in terms of hereditary monarchies, while they do admittedly provide a generally-more stable system of succession than some others by usually having pre-determined orders of succession they have flaws in my opinion.

  • The reliance of the system on the sexual success of the head of state, meaning if they fail to heir a progeny, then the succession becomes complicated and there can be a succession crisis between siblings of the monarch once he dies. And if there is neither progeny nor siblings, the state then has to go find another monarch which can itself cause problems.
  • Succession to children and other incapacitated individuals, when this occurs the state effectively goes into a period of regency which can cause disruption in terms of governance.
  • Potentially dysgenic nature due to rule being based on lineage not merit.

I do think one benefit of hereditary monarchy though is that the nation is treated as the property of the ruling family, thus there is some self-interest commitment for them to at least govern it adequately to ensure that their own offspring can continue to rule it.

In contrast, there are elective monarchies (I know some people dispute whether these were actually monarchies). The most notable elective monarchies in Europe are Rome, the Holy Roman Empire, the Papal States/Vatican City and the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. I do believe that elective monarchies ala Rome are superior to hereditary monarchies because succession is not constrained by lineage from a single family, meaning that transfers of power can be done based on merit (although not always the case). However, a problem with these are that the electors (such as the nobles of the PL Commonwealth or the Roman Senate) often possess a disproportionate amount of influence and that can in itself cause political instability. Only the Papal States were relatively immune from internal issues due to the religious nature of the highest office (although there were still disputes, eg. antipopes).

While I believe in a more absolutist state, I do not see the outright advantage of a monarchy over any other kind of autocratic government such as a modern one-party state or a military junta (which have their own flaws). A president-for-life can basicially do all that a monarch can do. While there is a traditionalist argument for monarchy on it being a cultural institution as well, I don't think it would be that persuasive in the modern era (I'll address that in the next parapraph). I think states like modern China or the Islamic Republic of Iran provide better models for a more meritocratic government whereby officials work their way up the power-ladder would be better. I especially admire the Imperial exam system of ancient China, I think something like this could be used not just for civil servants but for public officials (albeit I would want testing to be very philosphically and physically rigorous).

Finally, in terms of the modern applicability of monarchy as I said I was going to talk about last, the reason I do not believe it is suitable is because I don't see their being much appetite for monarchy in the West. Historically, monarchs governed based on the divine right from God or as vice-regents appointed by God's will. Such excuses are obviously not as convincing in largely modern secular societies, and I think even if people moved towards social conservatism they would still be quite secular in terms of their cosmological views. I could only see a monarchy really ever returning following the rule of a "Great Man"-esque figure who would decide to establish some sort of hereditary rule. In the West today, monarchies only really continue to exist as bizarre, glorified celebrities and people are mostly apathetic to them.

Nick Fuentes banned on Dlive by arainynightinskyrim in debatealtright

[–]Talmudstein 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm not advocating for anyone to go prison but prisons are actually quite good for organising and radicalisation. Just ask the Islamists.

Politico Reports: Biden Taps Orthodox Jewish Woman for White House Cybersecurity Post | The Jewish Press - JewishPress.com | Hana Levi Julian | 24 Tevet 5781 – January 7, 2021 by Fitter_Happier in debatealtright

[–]Talmudstein 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Oh ye them, the anti-semite Biden needs to appoint one for underrepresenting Jews!

Why are the elites so desperate to institute a police state? by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

[–]Talmudstein 13 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I really don't know but to be honest why do they need to "keep it in their pants" anymore? Jews have had periods of influence like you mentioned in Ukraine, in the Islamic Spain, in Weimar Germany, in the early Soviet Union and obviously in ancient Israel as mentioned in the Abrahamic narratives, but the current era is unprecedented in the fact that I cannot literally think of a period when Jews were ever this powerful.

Two of the three global powers of the world today, the US Empire and Russia, are controlled by their oligarchs, while the other (China) gladly works with them. In almost every hall of power in the world they have power in some form and some way. They have at the very least their foot in the door of duopolies of every industry in some manner, if not straight up controlling them, including the most important ones in terms of controlling economic and social activity: international finance, media, entertainment and information technology. Plus their little statelet of Israel, which would rightfully be an internationally-isolated rogue state for its Samson option and would not have survived this long in an ideal world, is in a more than comfortable position.

I sometimes think I'm a schizoid when I say things like this but if you take a objective look at the level of Jewish institutional power backed up by never-ending sympathy and coddling due to the founding myth of the modern world, it is unfathomable. I mean, even the Mossad asset Epstein was basically just a blatant flaunting of their influence.

So if anything, at least to me they are far from desperate.

Trump suspended from Twitter by FriedrichLudwig in debatealtright

[–]Talmudstein 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Censorship overdrive is coming. How long until 4chan is closed?

The NJP Stands in Solidarity with the Uprising of January 6th by Fitter_Happier in debatealtright

[–]Talmudstein 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Does anyone know what NJP's short-term goal is? I heard they want to be a Proud Boys-like street movement. Also are they officially registered yet?

What is your opinion on this comment? by Nasser in debatealtright

[–]Talmudstein 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

In the liberal eye these protests were about human rights, not politics.

this statement lol

Baked Alaska's January 6 D.C. capitol livestream by Talmudstein in debatealtright

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No sorry, there isn't one on bitchute either and the one on his dlive account is only the first part before he was in the building. Looks like they scraped it off the Internet.

Baked Alaska's January 6 D.C. capitol livestream by Talmudstein in whatever

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Interesting to contrast it with this from earlier in 2020 (the guy who filmed this has a great channel btw, Vagrant Holiday). Which one was the "insurrection" and which one was the "peaceful protests"?

Baked Alaska's January 6 D.C. capitol livestream by Talmudstein in debatealtright

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Interesting to contrast it with this from earlier in 2020 (the guy who filmed this has a great channel btw, Vagrant Holiday). Which one was the "insurrection" and which one was the "peaceful protests"?

Politico Reports: Biden Taps Orthodox Jewish Woman for White House Cybersecurity Post | The Jewish Press - JewishPress.com | Hana Levi Julian | 24 Tevet 5781 – January 7, 2021 by Fitter_Happier in debatealtright

[–]Talmudstein 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

  • Joe Biden (President) - has two Jewish children-in-law
  • Kamala Harris (Vice-President) - Jewish husband
  • Antony Blinken (Secretary of State) - Hungarian Jew
  • Wendy Sherman (Deputy Secretary of State) - Jew
  • Victoria Nuland (Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs) - Jewish husband
  • Janet Yellen (Secretary of the Treasury) - Polish Jew
  • Merrick Garland (Attorney General) - Russian Jew
  • Alejandro Mayorkas (Secretary of Homeland Security) - Sephardic-Romanian Jew
  • Ron Klain (WH Chief of Staff) - Jew
  • Avril Haines (Director of National Intelligence) - Jew
  • John Kerry (Climate Envoy) - Austrian Jew
  • Jared Bernstein (Economic Advisers Council member) - Jew
  • Rochelle Walensky (CDC Head) - Jew
  • Anne Neuberger (Cybersecurity role) - Orthodox Jew

Jews will be 27% of the Cabinet and I've probably missed numerous more low-level officials. Notice the offices they've all been given as well, except for Kerry who's just put in there as a headline-grabbing big name I assume, they're not just running some random ministry for agriculture or transport. They'll be overseeing Biden's foreign, economic, security, judicial and pandemic policies.

A single white pill in a sea of black pills by Dragonerne in debatealtright

[–]Talmudstein 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Not from America.

The level of gaslighting and gayop-ing needed to sustain this country is actually insane by cisheteroscum in debatealtright

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You're right but frankly I think they will do it even if it is blindly obvious they don't succeed. America is an incredibly desperate place geopolitically, Europe is drifting away from it, it's basically lost or losing all proxy conflicts it's been engaged in since Bush and its clout in Asia is declining. It's soft power strategy is clearly failing and like you said the world's situation has long since evolved, Russia openly exerts its power by putting a few hundred of its forces wherever and China is buying its way into influence over foreign governments, and the only way I see it can put its money on the table anymore will be using its military.

I personally do think the Iran War is going to happen under Biden, Israel has already made all its own geopolitical preparations and has been in bed with Russia and the EU for a while now as its new replacement guardians so they have nothing to lose from forcing America's hand over Iran into a losing situation. Jewish pressure and urgency in the hawks is going to lead to disaster. Maybe I'm wrong though.

The level of gaslighting and gayop-ing needed to sustain this country is actually insane by cisheteroscum in debatealtright

[–]Talmudstein 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Networking. There needs to be the formation of on-the-ground groups of people who live in relatively close proximity. This then needs to be supplemented by a vanguard organisation to provide leadership to enforce discipline and carry a unified message and goal. Usually, the latter actually comes before the former, especially when they don't have the advantage of prior networking. Like previous political movements usually already have existent circles of students or military officers, but frankly I think online networks of more higher level figures could potentially be applied in real life. Significant alt-right leaders need to get together, solve their petty differences and announce the formation of a political movement. This doesn't have to be a political party, it could simply be a loose movement in and of itself. Also it should be able to dynamically organise along social and industrial groups, historically this has been done through labour unions and veteran's associations, to eventually be able to organise vast amounts of society when it has the capability to do so.

There are already some groups in America who have managed some minor political organisation but it is far from enough and far to localised. We have not seen much of the NJP yet but I think they seem to be the most promising so far, although Patriot Front are the most seemingly successful I have seen. Also, the Proud Boys seemingly have some decent organisational skills as they have branches across the country that can organise and engage in direct action. The NJP seem to want to emulate and incorporate the Proud Boys in some way which is even more promising.

The other part of this is that people need to be willingly to conduct some sacrifice. Which is even harder and I don't have answer to how that can be overcome other than some people must be willing to do it first before others join in.

Obviously this is all for only peaceful organisation.

The level of gaslighting and gayop-ing needed to sustain this country is actually insane by cisheteroscum in debatealtright

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It'll be interesting to see the form the decline takes when Biden finally takes power and the anti-Trump rallying bounce he's having phases away. We're going to have a senile figurehead and a unpopular neoliberal government which half the population won't even see as legitimate and half their own base inevitably splitting and seeking to eventually take ideological control of the Democratic Party. He'll be overseeing a recession and mass unemployment caused by the pandemic most likely seeking to charge his predecessor and trying to implement promised reforms for BLM. And above ALL of this, his government has shown not a single sign it will back down on foreign policy. Ethnically Jewish and "proud liberal internationalist" Antony Blinken, Biden's Secretary of State-to be, is talking about "showing up" in Syria again and we don't know what Biden will do about Afghanistan, Russia, China, North Korea, Turkey, Iraq, Venezuela and any other future foreign conflict, but it's clear the Biden government will want to be going back to good old 1990s-early 2000s of monopower America. It will be especially interesting to see the blowback and potential internal unrest that Biden could cause by adding a high casualty rate, costly military quagmire to all the issues America is facing right now. Basicially, he's Hindenberg (non-radical centrist elected to rule over a decaying state who will attempt one last stand for "moderate politics" to defeat radicalism) but only that Hindenberg wasn't trying to drag Germany into a bunch of pointless wars.

This is why people in the dissident/alt-right/nationalist/Third Positionist sphere need to get serious about organising right NOW. The accelerationist part of me is full of glee, while the rational part of me is worried. The chaos is not ending, it has only just begun and we haven't seen nothing yet.

A single white pill in a sea of black pills by Dragonerne in debatealtright

[–]Talmudstein 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It's whitepilling until you realise Denmark is already a liberal hellhole with a decadent white population and 13+% migrant population.

Jan 6th was an obvious and intentional trap by Blackbrownfreestuff in debatealtright

[–]Talmudstein 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

He literally had a "Q sent me" sign at that protest, he's a Qtard counter-protestor. Him being an actor is irrelevant, do you think everyone there was an actor? Was the woman who was shot a left-wing actor? Is Baked Alaska, regardless of your thoughts on him, a left-wing actor?

DC Events/Evacuation Thread -- Please post all news, links, threads on DC happenings here by send_nasty_stuff in debatealtright

[–]Talmudstein 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Trump has conceded (reported on numerous news sources and Twitter)

Jan 6th was an obvious and intentional trap by Blackbrownfreestuff in debatealtright

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Many of the people pictured inside of the building don't really look like Trump supporters. They look like Antifa in Trump gear.

They were 100% Trump supporters, this narrative is so disingenuous. These disgruntled people were betrayed by their President and this narrative is helping that.

DC Events/Evacuation Thread -- Please post all news, links, threads on DC happenings here by send_nasty_stuff in debatealtright

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https://www.youtube.com/embed/ay7PwhLkYB0?autoplay=1&auto_play=true

Spencer, Wallace and Woods doing livestream

I'm so much looking forward to the DC fallout and Qtards being wrong by cisheteroscum in debatealtright

[–]Talmudstein 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm so much looking forward to the DC fallout and Qtards being wrong by cisheteroscum in debatealtright

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Der Boomer Pustch

I'm so much looking forward to the DC fallout and Qtards being wrong by cisheteroscum in debatealtright

[–]Talmudstein 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

They stormed the Capitol lol, will be interesting to see how this unfolds. Not expecting anything though

This was filmed in Vancouver, Canada...Where are all the white people at? by TheWorldToCome in debatealtright

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Depressing...What is it about North American Pacific coast cities that make them so bad? Seattle, Vancouver, LA, Portland, San Francisco, they're all like the prime examples of the worst aspects of their respective countries.

This was filmed in Vancouver, Canada...Where are all the white people at? by TheWorldToCome in debatealtright

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This is kinda unrelated but I hate these kinds of videos because they are perfectly representative of the state of our modern society. Weird brown and black men going up to brain-dead ethnically ambiguous, foreign and sometimes brainwashed white women who know pollute our streets asking them a bunch of degenerate questions about whether "they like BBC" or "do they do anal sex" or something like that (its funny though when the women are clearly uncomfortable). Shows how low IQ and decadent the modern West is, plus what our future will be if we don't change things: a mongrelised hypersexual, materialist hell.

The only one of this format I actually liked was when that guy went around asking Jews what there opinion of the goyim was.

Georgia senate election updates by Fitter_Happier in debatealtright

[–]Talmudstein 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Wild in what regard? They only have a 50 seat tie + VP, which is weakened itself by their own centrist faction with at least Manchin making it only 49. I don't doubt it will be worse than under Trump but I don't think they'll be able to go full AOC with such a weak "majority". And Biden probably would have done his more wild policies through executive order anyway if there was a gridlock, things like DACA/illegal amnesty, gun control, censorship and "cracking down on white nationalism".

South Africa nearing collapse: 40% unemployment and white led secessionist movement by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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Israel never supported apartheid, they condemned that policy and only reluctantly worked with South Africa on tech-sharing (especially in regards to nuclear weapons) and economic terms because they needed some allies outside of Europe and North America. South Africa and Rhodesia were last-choice picks from who they could work with in Africa, because the only black African states at the time willing to work with Israel were Malawi and Ethiopia (pre-collapse of its monarchy).

There's no official stats on Israeli thoughts on apartheid that I've seen but most of the sources I've read on the subject usually said the Israeli population didn't really like the South African government and Apartheid.

The article on South Africa-Israel relations on Wikipedia and this article here have a lot of good information about the subject.

Georgia senate election updates by Fitter_Happier in debatealtright

[–]Talmudstein 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Nothing would have changed regardless, Loeffler and Purdue are not even fake populists like Hawley or Ted Cruz and would have gladly gave bipartisan support to much of Biden's agenda. Plus Biden can do a lot of damage regardless of control of the Senate through his executive power.

Georgia senate election updates by Fitter_Happier in debatealtright

[–]Talmudstein 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Good, why are you upset? This is great strategically. There is no actual case to support the GOP on this, there was a (weak, in my opinion) case for supporting Trump but definitely not for two establishment Republicans unless you only care about tax cuts.

Regarding the policies. Biden has the executive (no, the "steal" isn't going to be "stopped"), there's a lot he could have done regardless of the status of Congress through presidential decrees. But even if Loeffler and Purdue won, nothing would have really changed. The GOP and Dems share bipartisan support for many of Biden's most damaging policies: immigration, imperialistic pro-Zionist foreign policy, Internet censorship, social degeneracy and corporate handouts. There is even bipartisan support for Puerto Rico statehood btw. The GOP never challenge the Dems on something like abortion either. The only thing the GOP actually stands its ground to fight for is tax cuts, economic deregulation that usually causes harmful work, food and living standards, and controlling the Supreme Court (which they do nothing with, its partisanship or partisanship's sake). The Congressional GOP doesn't even support some of the few good policies Trump actually did like the Syria and Afghanistan withdrawals! And to be honest, as bad as even moderate Democrats are, people overestimate the power of the radicals who want to go full police abolition, gun control or whatever. We were going to be seeing more of the same decline regardless. So there is not really a good case at all on ethno-nationalist grounds, on traditionalist grounds or anti-Zionist grounds to support Loeffler and Purdue. How much longer can American nationalists (or nationalists in Europe as well) continue supporting these types blindly to "stop the decay" without getting anything in return?

Noting above and the reality of the political system now, the American nationalist sphere has to suck it up and realise the strategic benefits they have at least. The false conservatives are out of power and basically returning to post-2010 Obama years, but it was those years themselves that led to the initial rise of the alt-right. And despite the alt-right's failure, actual nationalists are far better organised, more active and have a more coherent ideology than they did at the end of Obama's term in 2016. Plus, more white Americans are disgruntled and distrusting with the system than in 2016. With a now weakened GOP and the eventual death of the failed Trumpist cult, which was holding back significantly any actual movement to true nationalism, plus the Moderate Democrats holding full control of Government, this is perfect grounds for recruitment and expanding of actual nationalism. What nationalists, like the NJP, Patriot Front, Groypers, Spencerites and whoever, should realise is that now is a golden opportunity and what they should be doing is getting their act together, organising a political resistance and swallowing up the disenfranchised Trump supporters and disgruntled white working and lower-middle class base. By 2022, there should be openly ethnonationalist candidates being stood in primaries with not necessarily the goal to take power through democratic means but serving as a tool for achieving propaganda victories. Basically, the so-called "ballot box and Armalite" strategy (disavow the second part and replace it with peaceful organising).

There is a real chance for the development of nationalism in America which can obviously be a stepping stone in the future for whatever happens (balkanisation, collapse, etc). People should not be wallowing in misery because some corrupt billionaires lost because currently there are no good options, not even Trump is a good option. You know exactly who your fighting now and which side you should be on, it is time for realism and pragmatism.

Also Loeffler was an extremely terrible candidate. Unelected, extremely corrupt wife of a corrupt billionaire, openly showing contempt for the Trump base in the last days until the runoff election and was basicially the "swamp".

South Africa nearing collapse: 40% unemployment and white led secessionist movement by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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I think a logical explanation would be that being a more "primitive" culture, aggressive mating and courting techniques are more common (especially in Africa where they are less constrained by, formerly, white-dominated systems to adopt to foreign norms).

What is the exact evidence of voter fraud in the US? by Nasser in debatealtright

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Wouldn't it be understandable though considering Trump was condemning and telling (or indirectly implying) his supporters not to use mail-in ballots.

South Africa nearing collapse: 40% unemployment and white led secessionist movement by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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Many Jewish South Africans, both individuals and organisations, helped support the anti-apartheid movement. It was estimated that Jews were disproportionately represented (some sources maintain by as much as 2,500%) among whites involved in anti-apartheid political activities.[73] Much like other English-speaking white South Africans, Jews supported either the Progressive Party or the United Party. One organisation, the Union of Jewish Women, sought to alleviate the suffering of blacks through charitable projects and self-help schemes. Fourteen of the 23 whites involved in the 1956 Treason Trial were Jewish and all five whites of the 17 members of the African National Congress who were arrested for anti-apartheid activities in 1963 were Jewish.

In addition to the well-known high profile Jewish anti-apartheid personalities, there were very many ordinary Jews who expressed their revulsion of apartheid in diverse ways and contributed to its eventual downfall. Many Jews actively provided humanitarian assistance for black communities. Johannesburg's Oxford Synagogue and Cape Town's Temple Israel established nurseries, medical clinics and adult education programs in the townships and provided legal aid for victims of apartheid laws. Many Jewish lawyers acted as nominees for non-whites who were not allowed to buy properties in white areas.[75]

Joe Slovo (born Yossel Mashel Slovo; 23 May 1926 – 6 January 1995) was a South African politician, and an opponent of the apartheid system. A Marxist-Leninist, he was a long-time leader and theorist in the South African Communist Party (SACP), a leading member of the African National Congress (ANC), and a commander of the ANC's military wing Umkhonto we Sizwe (MK). [...] Slovo was born in Obeliai, Lithuania, to a Jewish family that emigrated to the Union of South Africa when he was eight.

Lmao even the South African-Israeli alliance was just pure Jewish pragmatism, internally they were publicly criticising it, most Israelis opposed apartheid (despite public support for their own 'apartheid' regime obviously) and they ended ties and sanctioned them in 1987 anyway which is many ways was the final nail in the coffin for white-minority rule. Israel only supported Rhodesia and South Africa as a last-resort, it initially prioritised making ties with the black states but Arab leaders like Nasser and Gadaffi pressured the Africans not to. Never trust a Chosenite.

Looking for someone to read my writings for Youtube by [deleted] in debatealtright

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I don't think I have a good voice for reading so I can't help in that regard, but I just want to say after a quick viewing of your writings they are really good. Do you plan to do more in the future?

Socially liberal nationalists? by Talmudstein in debatealtright

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Well it depends how you define tradition. To some traditions are just festivals and the little activities you do in them. To others tradition means not just cultural activities but the social orders that come alongside them, such as models of family ties and social etiquette.

So now Richard Spencer is counter-signaling Keith Woods? by tantamle in debatealtright

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Brahmin is a joke. He is affiliated with a bunch of feminists and libertines.

PREPARE FOR WAR: After Jan. 6th, expect all hell to break loose across America by TheJamesRocket in debatealtright

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The banks took millions of people's homes in 2008

Not only did they not do anything about it, they've consistently supported giving those people tax breaks and federal bailouts since then

PREPARE FOR WAR: After Jan. 6th, expect all hell to break loose across America by TheJamesRocket in debatealtright

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is this bait lol?

Is anyone here pro choice? by WeastGang in debatealtright

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I'm not but I always thought a good compromise for abortion would be that anyone who gets one out choice could be free to get one but they should be sterilised afterwards.

Socially liberal nationalists? by Talmudstein in debatealtright

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The right to say the n-word shall not be infringed!

Socially liberal nationalists? by Talmudstein in debatealtright

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I agree but I think such political divisions are purely a symptom of modern democracy. I doubt much people would care about their rulers if they weren't being actively prodded to be active spectators in the political realm, for example people in China or Saudi Arabia are more contempt with their rule than America.

There are no lesser of 2 evils in UK politics, the Conservative Party without any question is a worse enemy than Labour and there can be no compromise for them like for seen in the 2019 election by Nasser in debatealtright

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skinheads came from here and the NF and BNP were 2 of the most successful post-war nationalist parties in the whole of the western world.

Italian Social Movement and pre-Marine National Rally were more successful than BNP or NF ever were in terms of vote share, although admittedly Britain's election system had prevented them from ever growing.

People should be realistic about China, they aren't your friend, and its doubtful they're anti-ZOG by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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LOL the boomers in that comment section

People should be realistic about China, they aren't your friend, and its doubtful they're anti-ZOG by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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I agree about China, but there should be a centre-ground position which isn't China worship but isn't neoconservative/Alex Jones ranting about the "CCP ChiComs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" either. China is a pillar of Global Zionism and should not be seen as an ally to European and American nationalists, nor should Russia really, but it isn't Public Enemy #1. (By the way, I don't really care for Twitter much but has anyone else noticed some pro-Chinese account "Bao Li Căornpop Wang" (ChineseNat) shilling for China on every DR Twitter account?)

About Iran, I don't know or care about the Striker thing but I just want to say this. Yes, America could beat Iran in a conventional war but the cost would definitely not be worth it and America would bleed just like it has done in Vietnam and Afghanistan (potentially more so). Iran has developed a strategy to deal with America through irregular warfare both at home and in its neighbours with proxies in at least five countries plus potentially more in some others. If America started the Iran War, following the immediate mass rocket attacks on major Western and Israeli assets by Iran directly and its proxies, it'd be dealing with a mountainous guerrilla war in Iran itself against a committed ideological force (without much a loyal ground force as in Afghanistan and Vietnam either, there at least you had the Northern Alliance and South Vietnam but no Iranian opposition group is serious enough to be a viable partner or could form an actual united proxy), civil wars in some of Iran's neighbours and America's regional allies where they'd also be targeting American assets (this would probably lead to the collapse of countries like Bahrain and Saudi Arabia), guerrilla piracy in the Strait of Hormuz messing with global oil supply, potential attacks in the West by Iranian assets and all of this will probably be covertly funded by Russia and China as well just to mess with America. Oh ye and don't forget the inevitable refugee crisis from this and the effects of that. And by the way, outside of its defensive manoeuvre and a few retaliatory strikes, Israel won't even actively participate in a war it ordered the NATO goyim to conduct. They'll just laugh after the region has totally destroyed itself and then swallow and settle the post-war wasteland for Greater Israel. There'd probably be at least thousands of young white men from America and Europe who would die in this chaos. All of this for what? So Israel can be made Great Again™, so Iranian women can have casual sex, so the minority sect of Islam can be weakened slightly, so you get a few videos of "hajis" getting blown up and so the MIC continues. Are a generation of young white men and the harm this will cause worth it? I really, really don't get your chest-thumping about this. Unless you are an accelerationist, regardless of your thoughts on Islam, Iranian history or the Middle East, counter-signalling Iran is definitely not something we should be doing while something like this is a massive possibility.

People should be realistic about China, they aren't your friend, and its doubtful they're anti-ZOG by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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I agree except for Palestine, there is definitely a pragmatic case for "enemy of my enemy is my friend" in there. Its a very direct thorn against Israel and Jews.

There are no lesser of 2 evils in UK politics, the Conservative Party without any question is a worse enemy than Labour and there can be no compromise for them like for seen in the 2019 election by Nasser in debatealtright

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If you mean Farage's party they were by no means "nationalist", I remember his party was crying about the EU not being black enough, was standing minority candidates everywhere and had members who were a bunch of Trotskyists-turned-neoliberals.