/r/MGTOW banned

Solarcore · 2021-08-04T22:53:58+00:00

Shame. Regardless how the most of the discussions there often were, the core ideas of MGTOW (J ust do your own thing and never mind conventional relationships if they don't work out for you) seem to be decently grounded and suiting approach for some men. Curious niche - although often distasteful and crude, not really worth of banning.

Solarcore · 2020-08-30T17:40:58+00:00

Possible lesbians are least of your problems with lead exposure. And even if, gays ain’t a negative issue in any manner, they just fine, nothing worth mentioning there.

Solarcore · 2020-08-04T09:58:52+00:00

Yeeep. And it’s gonna mess us all badly when it happens. My favourite conspiracy theory is that when ever huge things like Corona restrictions happen, it is just cover for sneaky peakoil- preparations by the goverments. Alas, they ain’t that clever. :D

Solarcore · 2020-08-03T13:06:41+00:00

They’re related. But back then fracking and oil sands weren’t certain yet. Only after the USA production ramped up, things changed. The main concern was about how long the huge old wells in middle-East can last with the demand, as new discoveries had peaked and large scale fracking was unproved and possible capability questioned. 2004 it looked way different than what last decade came to be.

Solarcore · 2020-08-02T17:40:41+00:00

Yeah, even back then there was that pressure in the community - topic to itself- but can’t imagine what it is today now that cross dressers are thing of past and voices of slow and careful approach on these topica are far and few. But hey, I found a wife who has a thing for men like me and raising kids is just great. Wouldn’t ever want to sacrifice that for some unneccessary comfort.

Once I heard a hushed discussion that “even many of those transsexuals who seemed to do great on all fronts, ended up committing suicide decades later ...and there is something more to this” alas, no-one went to tell their theories, would’ve like to know what. One trans man hitting 50 confessed me that it was in the end, truly about not being ok with having periods and hating them on all the levels, but that testosterone was a mistake, but have to just roll with where he is now.

Solarcore · 2020-08-02T17:14:00+00:00

I agree that part queer theory that gender roles are big thing here. For myself, back when I could pass, I found that the female social role, ways of interacting and expectations and treatment was just so much more natural and fluent - unlike among men. Comes with having grown always as “one of the girls”. And being kinda girly and feminine man among the other men, especially socially, is often resented, but less than one would easily expect. But never had that strong feeling of bodily dysphoria, and even though mighty have donee fine had I gone down that road, I’m happy I didn’t. Nowdays I’m quite fine that I get commonly read as femme gay, even as that I ain’t the thing, just expressing as I come naturally and feel like, I get along with all aspects of life quite nicely.

Solarcore · 2020-08-02T16:35:07+00:00

Sad to hear that. When I knew of that crowd, it was common knowledge that one should not transition for fetish, and the crossdresser crowds were way larger than the small groups that felt that the had no other option. I truly think there are real cases of trans outside the tangeltial causes for the symptoms. Also, among the fetisist, some told that it started like that (commonly not feeling like it at all after wanking) but later as years pass by, often with experiences dating as woman, especially if passing well, some mentioned that the sexual aspects and feelings truly vaned and it was just about “being themselves”. These were ones often without clear advices on what they are, what is the right to do and no-one really had clear takeA on this. Back then all these things moves way more slowly, entry to medical processes was hard, worth tight screening and it took minimum two years, 6-8 wasn’t unheard of.

Solarcore · 2020-08-02T16:25:43+00:00

In 2004 I truly believed that peak oil will end everything at latest by 07-08 and took steps to prepare and preached at my friends to take it seriously, the proof is solid and I checked the science and statistics. Haven’t taken any “you’ll see in two years”- doomerism seriously ever since.

Solarcore · 2020-08-02T16:17:26+00:00

Wtf are you referring to? Youn find a fresh new bar and then the gay crowd finds it? I thought it went usually the other way around - gays have beat parties, then the hetero women arrive to party there in peace and soon their men follow and start complaining about men approching them and the place is ruined.

Solarcore · 2020-08-02T16:11:19+00:00

And growing crowds of transmen are just misguided lesbians? You’ve drank too much of the trending propaganda cool aid. Fetisist transitioning is one thing, sure, and that’s fucked up, but it ain’t the whole at all.

Solarcore · 2020-08-02T16:05:21+00:00

More about relationships and romance. Weeaboos are usually behind the curve in dating and all things involved. Anime hits that sweet spot nicely for crowds that have not managed to mature on those fronts IRL. Idealized imaginery and narratives without the all the messes to learn that is real world daring. I bet there would be less of all that if they’d get into decent relationship, love and sex ok their teens as most people do. Lonely people without enough intimacy, touch and love turn to anime or other means of coping. And surpise, trans-leaning ain’t in the hottest demand.

Solarcore · 2020-08-02T15:48:51+00:00

Yeah, my take is on more practical lvl: high gatekeeping with the proper therapy and psychological evaluations for proceeding with anything permanent as many other things can cause the sympotms. Old common trans-wisdom was that transitioning can be very shitty, and if you do it for wrong reasons ( like fetish, depression, not being ok with body becoming woman ot whatever) you’re truly fucked once you figure out the real issues. Transitioning used to be the ”only if you can’t do anything else or live with lesser measures, it is hormones+surgey or suicide”. But for the truly rwal cases, pricess is the best treatment to fix their problem and it is ok that people know these kinda people exist and are ok. (But assholes as well as good ones can be found in every group). Thus, yeah, i just want to remove the minority things being climped together with woke-sosjustice-herd. Utterly wrong to let them represent medical/non-ideological issues. They should find new horses to rally behind and mirroring, trans and gay ain’t the enemies of common sense, consevatism or anything political.

Solarcore · 2020-08-02T11:19:49+00:00

Tbh, I think that is likely a straw man or hyped up opponent as part of the current cultural war. Not that those lunastics don’t exist, but I think they are the loud Clickbait minority as most of the trans people just to live in peace, and are not really that petty about pronouns, just want their meds, not get beaten up or discriminsted against. But yeah, trans people suffer from the fact that once people figure their shit out and move on in their life, they don’t stick around the support groups for years as normal people have better things to do and more likeminded people to hang within. Only ones whos stick ther around decades are the usually sad oddballs who made their gender thing somekind of identity and then everyone suffering for it. But yeah, point was this ”trans ideology” is more of right-wing talking point about percieved enemy in culture war, rather than a real big and widely spread and supported or real line of thought among the varied trans peeps really. And i’m afraid this spearheaing trans from both left and right might lead to over-reaction that only worses life of people who don’t really want to have to anything to do with culture-war and just deal eith their day-to-day life.

Solarcore · 2020-08-02T10:25:48+00:00

Didn’t go like that. I was there exploring wtf trans is well before feminism took interest on these things. Trans-people of sorts have always existed in for of other, normal small part of human variety that just happens, nothing new in itself (we can talk has it really eisen in percentages or just more visible currently). Back then it was transsexual - those that needed hormones and surgeries and more or less fetisistic transvestites/crossdressers. These were rather separate camps. There was the small catch-all term transgender for those who didint identify with the either main group. What has happened since the (Queer) feminism came about has been more nuanced categorizations of trans folks, some terms being way more valid than the artsy bullshit terminolgubalso seen (tumblrgender). That goes but worse had been tha intersectionalists highjacked the ”hey, I keep noticing I feel good when I express like man/woman - wtf is going on and how to deal with it? - support groups to watered down mangled ”so you’re trans so you must support fatso righs, be all about anti-racism and taking down patriarchal capitalism” - activist groups with tons of tone policing and ideologies. FFS! People just need to get support tha handle their issues without any political ot ideological crap. Kick Leftwing intersectinalism out of minority issues. This said as in old school liberal nationalist crossdresser who just wants to succeed in life, raise a good family and rock on with the goals I have - fuck revolutions.

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