I'm sick of being the only one with these views and feel insane

RedditHatesLesbians · 2020-09-08T12:30:57+00:00

Hot take but I'm beginning to hate this unconditional sympathy/empathy for trans men. They're not just poor confused women, many of them fetishise gay male relationships and clearly show signs of autoandrophillia. They also infect spaces for gay men like r/askgaybros and purposefully try and stir up so called transphobia to get the sub banned. There's malice there. Just because they're women doesn't make them any less shitty, even if they are just masculine women trying to opt out of womanhood, I don't feel like they should get a pass for that either if they're upholding TRA ideology anyway - it hurts all other women, it hurts lesbians, it hurts gay men. Maybe some of it is confusion but then again maybe some trans women are just confused, too.

RedditHatesLesbians · 2020-09-10T12:50:34+00:00

Repeat after me. When it comes to sex, anyone can say no AT ANY POINT for ANY REASON.

If, during sex, you don't stop because you feel like that person owes you sex since you got that far, that is rape.

If you coerce or blackmail or manipulate someone into having sex with you, that is RAPE.

No one OWES you sex. You goddamn rapists and rape apologists. Jesus Christ.

RedditHatesLesbians · 2020-07-21T19:55:59+00:00

Respectfully disagree. These articles aren't being written by POC, they're being written by white virtue-signalling morons with way too much time on their hands, and they're actually purposefully provocative for clicks. Anger is the most effective emotion to get people to share articles online. Equality doesn't exist yet, so how could they overshoot? Look at America. This is only happening online. In real life, minorities are being murdered every day.

RedditHatesLesbians · 2020-08-31T08:11:41+00:00

I find it interesting how the first comment is about us being on "the wrong side of history." That they even care what history will think of them is telling, this is just some virtue signalling boner they all have. There often isn't a right or wrong side in history, history is written by the winners, they see things in such black and white terms that you really gotta wonder about their critical thinking skills.

RedditHatesLesbians · 2021-03-02T17:41:35+00:00

Thank you for this comment. I've told my lesbian friend to avoid him like the plague and not let him find out her sexual orientation, I'm really worried about him finding other people to victimise and doing the same thing. Will definitely document everything. I'm mostly scared of not being taken seriously, because he's not done anything violent or that "bad" (yet) and I don't want it to seem like I'm overreacting. But it's better to report it now as a preventative thing than waiting for it to maybe escalate, right? I don't want to exaggerate but this whole thing has genuinely made me feel unsafe at school. I mean I'm 5'2" and physically I'm no way his match, and I feel really intimidated because I know I couldn't defend myself if he actually tried something, and I get this panicky fight or flight response whenever I see him now like my instincts are telling me he's dangerous. Maybe it's just in head but my body is giving an intense fear response. I should carry around some pepper spray

RedditHatesLesbians · 2021-02-28T21:37:56+00:00

Actual, real lesbians can say whatever slang they want for women's bodies. It's men using those words that bothers me and getting turned on by their own male chesticles

RedditHatesLesbians · 2021-03-02T16:20:50+00:00

That really sucks that you've read similar stories so many times, it's dreadful. People like him are so obviously mentally ill but no one wants to address the elephant in the room. It feels almost like when men would try to convert lesbians and say they just haven't found the right dick yet - only now the argument is that I should date a male BECAUSE I'm a lesbian, not because I'm secretly not or because sexuality is fluid. It makes it so much worse. He literally showed absolutely zero interest in me before finding out, probably even negative interest tbh. Other lesbians should be wary when interacting with trans women in any context

RedditHatesLesbians · 2020-07-29T20:31:49+00:00

Also a lesbian, at least this craziness hasn't reached the average person. When you ask the average person on the street what a lesbian is, they're likely to say homosexual woman 98% of the time. Just sucks that we have so many less spaces as a result of this craziness. Lesbian bars have disappeared. Lesbian spaces have been infiltrated or closed down. I feel like this won't happen with gay men to the same extent, but who knows. After they're done with gay men who's next? Straight men? That'll go over well lol

RedditHatesLesbians · 2020-08-10T08:15:11+00:00

Jesus Christ. The jealousy here is real. These are seriously just incels hiding under woke dogma and I don't know how some people can't see that

RedditHatesLesbians · 2020-09-05T09:36:14+00:00

Anyone else hate people saying they're "gay af"? You're either 13 or straight af. Makes me roll my eyes every time.

RedditHatesLesbians · 2020-09-09T11:22:16+00:00

Boo fucking hoo. Grow up and get out into the real word. Literally do anything but spend all your time online getting offended and upset by meaningless microagressions you imagined in your own head. This is so pathetic.

RedditHatesLesbians · 2020-09-05T09:38:12+00:00

Being an actual lesbian I have literally never called myself a lesbian in real life, let alone being addicted to it. It's almost like these AGP males face none of the repercussions real lesbians have when they're out and so constantly say it as part of a disgusting fetish 🤔

RedditHatesLesbians · 2020-09-04T17:27:43+00:00

"I am 100% down with and attracted to lesbians even pre transition so yes call yourself a lesbian, girl."

Bisexual women who say this kind of crap are seriously damaging to actual lesbians.

"You're a lady that exclusively likes ladies, how you look doesn't really change that. (Source: cis gal with a deep voice and broad shoulders who also exclusively likes women, if you're not a lesbian then I'm not either) Welcome to the club lesbian."

Bruh.

RedditHatesLesbians · 2020-08-14T14:40:21+00:00

If we keep saying something maybe we can convince everyone else it's true, pass it on.

RedditHatesLesbians · 2020-08-04T10:44:19+00:00

Bi women, for some strange reason, feel like their only options are men or lesbians. Hmm

RedditHatesLesbians · 2020-07-15T15:35:27+00:00

The worst part is that these people push how "you don't HAVE to engage with the penis or vagina when having sex with a trans person, you can just do anal or receive, uwu" as if sexuality is passive and gay men don't have the desire to give and women just want to lay back there and all lesbians are total pillow princesses.

RedditHatesLesbians · 2020-07-23T21:09:59+00:00

Women attempt suicide more than men, men are just better at it because they pick more violent methods. Guns are more effective than sleeping pills. Oddly enough this speaks to our socialisation so much.

RedditHatesLesbians · 2020-07-11T19:10:37+00:00

I completely relate. I'm 16 and lesbians don't even seem to exist anymore in my age group, it's so isolating. The LGBT club at my school has FIVE transmen, some bisexuals and a few nonbinary people. Lesbians seem to be an endangered species. Those trans boys just seem like butch lesbians to me but they've been so heavily indoctrinated into the TRA ideology and it's sad. Reddit was the only place I felt sane. I can't share my views with any of my friends because I would be ostracised. I just had to get this off my chest.

RedditHatesLesbians · 2020-09-07T14:41:57+00:00

They look happy and cute together tbh. Just two effeminate gay men in a loving relationship. The story is also adorable.

I wish they could just accept that they're gay men and be okay with that. This reminds me of the two trans men who eventually detransitioned and accepted themselves as lesbians, I sincerely wish them all the best.

RedditHatesLesbians · 2020-08-24T17:33:40+00:00

Sea horses are horses, sir they're HORSES, it's literally in the name

RedditHatesLesbians · 2020-07-23T09:23:25+00:00

"Support free thinkers" is peak irony. Yes, support free thought, until the free thought contradicts my rigid views in any way. Freedom is slavery alright

RedditHatesLesbians · 2021-02-16T21:01:59+00:00

Wow, that is so gross. The reason I mentioned tops and bottoms in the first place is actually because a girl I was talking to described herself as "a total bottom" to me recently and my interest dropped to minus numbers, lol. That makes it even worse.

RedditHatesLesbians · 2020-08-22T11:33:04+00:00

I'm 16, I promise we're not all like that! This is a very specific niche of teenagers who are the same type who would have otherwise been anorexic or self harmers a few years ago, or emo. The typical very insecure, typically teenaged girl who latches onto a self destructive coping mechanism to cope with puberty and maturing. Like anorexia, transing is an escape from womanhood, an "easy out." This is shown in the ridiculous amount of trans boys compared to any other demographic.

RedditHatesLesbians · 2020-08-16T13:59:23+00:00

Maybe it's just my female socialisation talking, but I'd help anyone with crutches without even noting their sex as an important characteristic if this was a public place. It would literally only take a few seconds and would be very helpful, without you losing anything. The world would be a much better place if we were all nicer to each other. Obviously, you have to take the necessary precautions to be safe around men. Notice any red flags, never follow them anywhere private, don't climb into any cars and if you're uncomfortable, don't be afraid to leave out of rudeness. The usual. As women we have to be very wary of possible male violence at all times. And obviously, no one is owed anyone's help. If you see someone bleeding to death outside of a hospital, you're not legally liable to help them. But not every day to day interaction has to be a political statement.

RedditHatesLesbians · 2020-09-20T19:08:32+00:00

It doesn't really bother me, I don't expect the rest of the world to bend over backwards to always accommodate what ends up being a very small minority. Culture reflects the majority, as it always will and as it probably should, and we're outliers here. What we really need is our own communities in real life again that haven't been taken over by the TQ

RedditHatesLesbians · 2020-09-11T17:44:46+00:00

Because guys with moobs aren't a thing and women who have had mastectomies due to medical reasons clearly aren't women anymore... Let alone women with a naturally flat chest!

RedditHatesLesbians · 2020-08-14T16:40:27+00:00

You can't force yourself to be attracted to something when you're not. Attraction doesn't work that way, we can't control it and you're not evil for not being attracted to a body type. There's only two solutions here, really. She puts in a lot of work and makes the change for her health, most importantly, but also for the relationship, or you seriously reconsider whether you want to be married to her for the rest of your life. If you never regain attraction, and your sex life remains just like this for the rest of your lives, will you be happy with your decision?

RedditHatesLesbians · 2020-08-04T10:45:49+00:00

Real lesbians want to date women because we are attracted to women. Hatred of men doesn't cause an attraction to women. Smh.

RedditHatesLesbians · 2020-08-04T10:36:44+00:00

Also 16 here! What's helped me is honestly just getting my mind as far from all this as possible. It sucks we don't have spaces or communities, but this forum really helps and I've been spending most of my time learning bass and martial arts and trying to make myself a more well rounded person. In the future, all of these people who made their entire personality being a nonbinary demi pan lesbian will be dull as rocks. Don't feel bad about yourself because we're the sane ones here, without a doubt. Like minded people in our age bracket do exist, so don't lose hope. Like for centuries of lesbians, your self love has to come from only within and niche groups again. But lesbians made it through all the hardships we've faced up until now and we always will. Lesbians will always exist, while these people are a modern phenomenon. Take heart.

RedditHatesLesbians · 2021-02-21T18:01:15+00:00

I feel this 100%. Last year I was completely in love with one of my bi friends, asked her out and she actually said yes. I was ecstatic. Because of lockdown we didn't see each other all that much but we texted constantly and face timed, we'd go to sleep together while on call to one another. Anyway, after a while when lockdown stopped for a few months over here we visited each other, spent lots of time together but she didn't want to go past holding hands, not even kissing. I respected her boundaries and it was her first relationship ever, and we're only young, I was 17 then and she was 18 but after a few months more of refusing to act like a couple and just treating me like her best gal pal I gave up. Now she's dating some dude, posting pictures of them kissing online and raving to everyone about him while she tried to keep our relationship on the down low. It really hurts, not doing that again

RedditHatesLesbians · 2020-09-10T22:05:10+00:00

Linking the thread because it's a wild read... It just keeps going!

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bass/comments/iq8b4u/how_many_other_women_are_on_this_sub/g4qhn7d?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

RedditHatesLesbians · 2020-08-07T16:02:05+00:00

Very good points. If you're asexual and in a same sex relationship, calling yourself asexual is similar to specifying that you have a dead bedroom, doesn't change how the relationship is viewed legally. Straight asexuals don't experience any discrimination from what I've seen, apart from what counts as "oppression" nowadays which is telling people they should be having kids and getting married.

RedditHatesLesbians · 2021-04-09T19:50:31+00:00

Yeah, this is my biggest gripe with it too. It gives the vibe that this guy "turned" her, which feeds into conversion therapy rhetoric. People are allowed to be bisexual, and I'm sure many kinsey 5.5s genuinely think they're lesbians until they're incidentally attracted to a man one time. But that means you were never a lesbian - guess that doesn't sound provocative and shocking enough though. "I used to be a lesbian until I met this one guy who rocked my world" is such a straight male fantasy, while "I didn't realise I was bisexual until I was in my late 20s" isn't really

RedditHatesLesbians · 2020-09-03T21:16:14+00:00

LOL. About the same, yes.

This is the reason why I dislike it when bisexuals get mad about not being included in some lesbians dating pools. Dating is a discriminatory process, and honestly just knowing a woman I'm with perceives men in that way would put a big rift between us, as you've said. Being a lesbian woman is a unique experience in a world that revolves around the dick. Knowing she's part of the dick worship is just... A turn off.

RedditHatesLesbians · 2020-08-12T09:40:30+00:00

This is long and repetitive all while not even saying anything, really. It could be shortened to:

Signs You May Be A Lesbian

You experience attraction towards women.
You do not experience attraction towards men. Ever. Yes, all men. Yes, even if you're attracted to one man, you're not a lesbian, Jennifer.

It's really not that hard. I honestly feel all this comphet and latebloomer stuff is mostly nonsense. Yeah some lesbians do experience it, but this is such a stretch. It's not that difficult to judge whether you're a lesbian or not, you definitely don't need 25 pointers.

RedditHatesLesbians · 2020-08-09T18:34:08+00:00

Reminds me of when I was dating a bi girl and when I asked to kiss her she just stood there like a limp rag, completely unresponsive, and it's not like I'm a bad kisser and was going in with my tongue out. Saw her a week later with her tongue down a boys throat making out on a park bench, turns out she was straight as fuck. This sort of thing gives me trust issues.

RedditHatesLesbians · 2020-07-22T12:06:04+00:00

This is just pathetic tbh. Best thing we can do is not give them attention. I don't know how attention starved and bored you've got to be.

RedditHatesLesbians · 2021-03-02T17:47:14+00:00

Mace is illegal, just checked :/

I'm definitely going to tell someone after all these comments... They've made me realise its more serious than I thought. I'm so used to having this sort of thing dismissed, tbh, and told it's not a big deal and I should ignore it. Not relating to a situation like this but relating to creepy men being creepy in general. I've always been encouraged to ignore cat calling, let men down easy, even go on dates just to be nice so I guess because of that socialisation I'm more accepting when I should have probably reported this weeks ago.

RedditHatesLesbians · 2020-09-05T20:05:35+00:00

I'm 16 so I didn't really think about it from that perspective. I've always questioned these things, mostly from the age when all the girls around me started wearing make up and I just didn't want to. I couldn't be bothered with it and didn't want to have to think about not smudging it constantly, and anyway, boys don't have to wear it so why should I? But these arguments were met with "That's just how girls are," as if every girl is born with a powder brush in her hand. When I asked other girls my age why they started wearing it, they either shrugged awkwardly or said something along the lines of "I enjoy it, it's for me." Maybe it began as a way of seeking Maturity and wanting to grow up, but those same girls began to be almost terrified of going anywhere bare faced. They carried make up everywhere and if they didn't wear it one day they were met with the dreaded, "You look tired today!" The girls who didn't wear it were seen as otherly to the girls who wore a lot of it, and vice versa. The former category is basically not there anymore as time has gone on. And I know it's just make up, but I've never been given a concrete explanation regarding just why it's such a compulsive ritual for women that doesn't reek of sexism.

Long rant about that in particular, but yeah. Interesting point about it being ingrained. It would be a bit like pointing out how many people the British empire killed and their concentration camps to some of the British Empire lovers around here that claim it was Britain at their peak. So contradictory it's easiest to ignore it.

RedditHatesLesbians · 2020-08-30T10:40:09+00:00

This linked edit makes me want to vomit: https://www.reddit.com/r/actuallesbians/comments/15ha8u/on_dating_trans_women_and_transphobia/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

Ew ew ew ewww. As a lesbian, fuck these people. I feel so genuinely disgusted.

I've become mostly desensitised to the cotton ceiling rhetoric but god, this is so homophobic and so rape-culture-y that it makes me sick to my stomach. I don't want to date MALES. I don't care if they have a gaping flesh wound between their legs, I don't care if they "pass" as out society's sexist idea of what a woman is after 50 surgeries and a pound of make up.

I don't want to date ALL transwomen because they're ALL MEN and I'm a LESBIAN. Jesus Christ, I don't know how anyone on that sub is a real lesbian at all, I don't know how they can stand to read that bullshit without leaving immediately. And that link is from 7 years ago! These beliefs are so much more prevalent now. Some fucking fetishist gave it silver. Leave lesbians the fuck alone.

Needed to get that out. I mean, omg.

RedditHatesLesbians · 2020-08-04T10:40:50+00:00

Ah, lesbians, with our perfect, sunny relationships where we have pillow fights in pink pyjamas every night, there's never ever domestic violence and we do each others nails.

RedditHatesLesbians · 2020-08-01T20:50:46+00:00

Poland! Yikes I know

RedditHatesLesbians · 2020-07-23T09:11:48+00:00

I don't like the anti-male rhetoric so often found here. Gives credit to the idea that we're all bitter man haters. I know plenty of men personally who are anti-pornography themselves, specially because it's a horrible industry and not because "it broke my pp :(" or whatever. This kind of talk is just blatant sexism, and it's not suddenly okay just because it's against men.

RedditHatesLesbians · 2020-07-21T20:46:04+00:00

Blind hiring is wonderful. Never said that I disagree with that concept. I doubt that the people writing these articles believe it should change either, they're just written to be provocative.

If even 2 black people were being murdered every year by police that would be too many. Yes statistically black on black violence is a huge issue, do you think that that shouldn't be addressed? That it's somehow okay just because it's interracial? All murder is bad, not just murder that fits your political view. White people are murdered by police too. That's also a problem. You cannot however deny the institutional oppression on a huge scale that minorities face. America was founded on racism and imperialism.

RedditHatesLesbians · 2020-09-23T17:49:24+00:00

Pregnancy. A pretty illogical fear considering it has a much smaller chance of ever happening to me than to the average (straight) woman but I've had nightmares about being pregnant since I was a young child. Seeing pregnant women also freaks me out, I can't spend a lot of time around them and feel like a huge jerk but it activates my fight/flight response.

RedditHatesLesbians · 2020-09-07T13:54:11+00:00

They want to be 15yo anime cat girls 🤮

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