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everyone's feelings and anxieties are valid unless a lesbian woman experiences them by Disillusioned in Lesbians

[–]PopeyesChicken 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

lol saying it’s abnormal to hate men and bisexual women is weird on this subreddit apparently. No most men don’t hate women, and yes it is bad to hate people. And no the women were not abused, they said it was because they were very lesbian and therefore disgusted by touching girls who have been with men sexually even as friends.

Good luck in the world. I’m wondering what kind of place this is now, where it’s embarrassing to say that there’s something wrong with thinking other people should be hated and seen as disgusting. I wish there was a place for normal people who are just gay but I don’t know if it exists anymore. I don’t want to participate here from now on.

everyone's feelings and anxieties are valid unless a lesbian woman experiences them by Disillusioned in Lesbians

[–]PopeyesChicken 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The social context of the two are different... but I would be skeptical of gay men who hate women too. It’s very strange to hate half of the world.

everyone's feelings and anxieties are valid unless a lesbian woman experiences them by Disillusioned in Lesbians

[–]PopeyesChicken 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I criticize the bi community too and I don’t think most lesbians are biphobic, but in this group I have seen some really biphobic lesbians who treat them like they’re stupid or disgusting. But if anybody questions it they would say “oh you can’t force me to sleep with anybody” but that’s not the point, it’s that yes you can deny anyone, but if you stereotype every person in a group then that is stereotyping still.

It’s like if somebody doesn’t want to date any Mexicans because they say “all the Mexicans I met are lazy and I don’t want to take my chance with them, I would rather date a Chinese person that I know will work hard”. Then if a Mexican says hey what kind of assumption is that, they say “you Mexicans can’t force me to have sex with you!! I had a bad experience with you guys! This is my right!” Like yes feel free not to sleep with Mexicans but if you do it based on that stereotype, it is racist. Whereas if you wanted to just not sleep with Mexicans because you are Chinese and want to date someone who shares your background, that’s not racist. They can do whatever they want but they can’t do that and also say nobody can point out the racism

I think some of the people in this group just have a preference, but some I have seen get into really bad stereotyping.

everyone's feelings and anxieties are valid unless a lesbian woman experiences them by Disillusioned in Lesbians

[–]PopeyesChicken 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Wow lol I definitely do not hate men the way you do... what a strange viewpoint almost like political lesbians

everyone's feelings and anxieties are valid unless a lesbian woman experiences them by Disillusioned in Lesbians

[–]PopeyesChicken 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

In truelesbians once I saw some people getting upvoted for saying that they almost vomit when they touch bi women because bi women have touched a penis. They said that it was because they were more gay than other lesbians so they’re so disgusted by it that they can’t even hug a bi woman as a friend. They weren’t trolls either I checked and they were very active in all gendercritical groups. Somebody criticized them and got downvoted.

So yes these people do exist and those people are very messed up. And they are in these kinds of groups too.

Dating App Red Flags by [deleted] in Lesbians

[–]PopeyesChicken 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I know that’s a thing, I just feel like your method is gonna help you find the girls who want to show everyone they’re outside and come in fancy gear, not the people who just like being outside

I feel really bad for JK Rowling. by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

[–]PopeyesChicken 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

ok sure but also i follow some youtubers who said they aren't going to talk about HP at all anymore just because they dont agree with JK on this topic. they say she's so bigoted that she doesnt deserve any attention from anybody

It's not ok to make trans "lesbians" sad by pointing out that men often say "You haven't tried a good dick yet" by TarshishJupiter in LGBDropTheT

[–]PopeyesChicken 46 insightful - 9 fun46 insightful - 8 fun47 insightful - 9 fun -  (0 children)

Lol worst comment is the one saying lesbians like dildos so why don’t they take girldick? Literally what straight guys have always told us

It's not ok to make trans "lesbians" sad by pointing out that men often say "You haven't tried a good dick yet" by TarshishJupiter in LGBDropTheT

[–]PopeyesChicken 44 insightful - 1 fun44 insightful - 0 fun45 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It says a lot that this kind of homophobic post doesn’t get removed but anything questioning the treatment of lesbians (by either bi or trans people) is immediately silenced. The only acceptable target in the “lesbian community” seems to be the lesbians.

Dating App Red Flags by [deleted] in Lesbians

[–]PopeyesChicken 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah I never take hiking pics because I’m just enjoying the scenery. I might take pics of the mountains but I won’t be in them. Seems like a weird thing to judge people for... like do you WANT them to spend all their time in the woods taking selfies lol

Dating App Red Flags by [deleted] in Lesbians

[–]PopeyesChicken 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I use the rainbow emoji ):

Dating App Red Flags by [deleted] in Lesbians

[–]PopeyesChicken 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Lol yeah I noticed a lot of self-proclaimed empath are narcissists. Makes sense because the word basically means you’re nicer than everyone else and such an awesome person lol

Is romantic orientation legit? by lmaonope333 in Lesbians

[–]PopeyesChicken 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is a pretty shitty way to talk to people. Why be so rude? It’s not your relationship

Is romantic orientation legit? by lmaonope333 in Lesbians

[–]PopeyesChicken 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I’ve seen homoromantic bisexuals too. They usually also start calling themselves lesbians.

Is romantic orientation legit? by lmaonope333 in Lesbians

[–]PopeyesChicken 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It’s basically a woke way to say “ew, I’d never actually date a woman!” Many of these girls just have internalized homophobia

Not being attracted to transmen doesn’t make you transphobic. : askgaybros by windrunner in LGBDropTheT

[–]PopeyesChicken 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They’ve been doing this to lesbians for much longer than they’ve been doing this to gay men lol. They even say “girldick”

Not being attracted to transmen doesn’t make you transphobic. : askgaybros by windrunner in LGBDropTheT

[–]PopeyesChicken 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Can I request that the people of this subreddit don’t upvote the anti-TRA comments in these threads? I want to see the genuine opinions of the guys at askgaybros

Lesbians that don't call themselves lesbians by carrotcake in Lesbians

[–]PopeyesChicken 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It doesn’t matter who she dates even... if she likes dudes too, she is bi, not gay

Lesbians that don't call themselves lesbians by carrotcake in Lesbians

[–]PopeyesChicken 17 insightful - 4 fun17 insightful - 3 fun18 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Kristen always says she really loved Robert pattinson and wanted to marry him at one point. She doesn’t magically become gay just because she’s been dating women like she could even NEVER date a man in her LIFE and still be bisexual. Or even straight! Kristen likes men too even if she might prefer women

How are some people on this sub going to notice that bi women falling themselves lesbians is a problem and then pull this bs lol

"Whew! Thank god homosexuality's definition is being changed so that gay people must be attracted to biological females to be gay! Definitely not homophobic, by the way! Nor do I have internalised biphobia!" by Smolders1 in LGBDropTheT

[–]PopeyesChicken 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

one thing with gay... they may be redefining it but most people dont know that from what i saw. like if someone says "im gay" the average Joe will think they are homosexual. but a lot of bisexuals say they're gay and say its fine because their community wants to make it an umbrella term. so they end up making people they meet think they are homosexuals and that homosexuals can like the opposite sex too.

[TRA vs straight dudes] The whole situation on r/Yuri is such a delight by LeoneOkada in LGBDropTheT

[–]PopeyesChicken 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

and anime for some reason lolll

Has anyone else also seen the 17-year-old lesbian girl who was viciously attacked and harassed on TikTok and Instagram for saying that she doesn’t want to have sex with “male genitals”? by hover286 in LGBDropTheT

[–]PopeyesChicken 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They would do anything, but they wouldn't date anything. They would bang her and leave. Men care a lot about the social status they get from who they date a lot of the time. even ugly men do this a lot. its easier to find a woman who will date you if you're extremely ugly (idk why you think im only talking about fat people) than a man because women are more likely to look past their partner's looks in relationships.

Has anyone else also seen the 17-year-old lesbian girl who was viciously attacked and harassed on TikTok and Instagram for saying that she doesn’t want to have sex with “male genitals”? by hover286 in LGBDropTheT

[–]PopeyesChicken 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Tangent but uhhh I kinda do think some women say they’re lesbians because they’re ugly. Don’t get me wrong I am a lesbian and I don’t think these women are really lesbians, and I get that when men say this they usually mean that lesbians aren’t real and we all want men under whatever trauma or problem we have which is bs. But I do think there’s this thing where you see these women that are unusually ugly (For example super obese like 500 pounds), these 1/10 type girls, calling themselves lesbians at a higher rate than average people and it’s weird. Those are the types where if they lost weight and could get a bf, a lot of them would drop the lesbian label and say they’re bi imo

[TRA vs straight dudes] The whole situation on r/Yuri is such a delight by LeoneOkada in LGBDropTheT

[–]PopeyesChicken 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I know. I’m not arguing against you.

[TRA vs straight dudes] The whole situation on r/Yuri is such a delight by LeoneOkada in LGBDropTheT

[–]PopeyesChicken 37 insightful - 2 fun37 insightful - 1 fun38 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

lesbians didnt want that either. idk why they just can't accept that not everybody thinks they're hot or whatever

Why are women always super offended if they're assumed to be lesbians? by RedditHatesLesbians in Lesbians

[–]PopeyesChicken 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They usually either like being called it or are grossed out. I wish it was just neutral but it seems like that’s a long way away.

There's no such thing as "bi lesbian" or "bi gay". Quit this bullshit by Disillusioned in LGBDropTheT

[–]PopeyesChicken 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The level of misinterpretation of pretty much everything I said is exhausting. It’s almost like you’re doing it on purpose.

  • fujoshi exist but that is a totally different issue. that’s more like trans women. straight men are not going around demanding to be called gay men but women are doing that to lesbians. There is a reason for that

  • who said I was just talking about abuse from men? we get the same shit from women. they often work with men to be predatory towards us. even if it was solely from men, women don’t get a free pass on purposely erasing gay people from their own definitions and spaces just because “men super bad!!”. Going around telling people lesbians like men too doesn’t stop being fucked up just because you’re a girl. especially when a lot of times they do that for homophobic reasons to begin with

  • aesthetic and tumblr is part of it too, but so is the sexualization of lesbians. it happens all the time.

  • so much for not making it a competition, with the “at least lesbians get to have partners”

  • they literally have like 50000 sexualities at this point and you’re seriously claiming they’re insisting on fighting for the word lesbian just because they have no other option? they’re being fought on this too. they just don’t give a shit about us. and they deserve to be called out for that.

You know, as a gay guy, it’s understandable why you wouldn’t feel the same way towards this issue. But using an experience that is entirely different to deny the experiences of lesbians, minimize every problem they bring up, and essentially tell them to shut up and get over it is fucked up. We already have almost nowhere where we can even talk because of these people (while gay men still have that). There is a reason why we are being affected differently than you on certain issues and a lot of it comes down to sexism and institutional power. People should not be shouted down and accused of wanting to be victims for acknowledging very obvious differences in treatment. Saying lesbians are more fetishized than gay men and that straight and bi women often pretend to be lesbians is objectively true. It isn’t an attack on gay men to speak about it in one of the only places we even have, against people who outnumber and harass us. Those are men AND women. That has nothing to do with being the bigger victim overall. It is a specific issue, and extremely obvious.

Yet it seems like you don’t even TRY to listen. Its extremely crappy, especially coming from someone who SO FREQUENTLY vents about their personal issues online. And I always upvoted you for it, even on drop the T. It would never occur to me to hear something like a gay man saying “we fear violence from straight men” and tell him to shut up because those lesbians on the bus in London got beat up, or say “well women fear it too so get over it”. But it seems like that’s very natural for you to do, and it’s a shame given that again, I’ve always been supportive (though a lurker) when I saw you talking about how you felt. I really hope you stop doing stuff like this.

There's no such thing as "bi lesbian" or "bi gay". Quit this bullshit by Disillusioned in LGBDropTheT

[–]PopeyesChicken 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I’m actually losing faith that this is gonna stop... I think they’re actually going to make the word lesbian not about homosexual women anymore. ):

There's no such thing as "bi lesbian" or "bi gay". Quit this bullshit by Disillusioned in LGBDropTheT

[–]PopeyesChicken 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Lesbians care because we are already not taken seriously and assumed to be bisexual which leads to a lot of harassment, fetishization, invalidation and abuse. The number of bi and trans women abusing the lesbian label is adding to that VERY QUICKLY and also they outnumber us, so they can actually change the definition by doing this and essentially erasing us. They have a really easy time doing this too, as usually bi and trans women are the ones who are in charge of lesbian spaces.

As a dude, I think you have a totally opposite perspective on this because most people think all bi men are gay, hell they even think straight men who experimented once are gay for even thinking about it. So of course you wouldn’t see the problem because people dont take bi men seriously anyway, annnd gay men outnumber them in the community. Plus there is far less to be gained from falsely claiming to be a gay man, whereas lesbians are fetishized so a lot of straight and bi women like to say it to appeal to men. Hence why “bi lesbian” is a lot bigger than “bi gay”

TL;DR: almost all of the consequences for this are going to hit lesbians way more than gay men, so this seems tone deaf

Also, they can already use homoflexible and heteroflexible. They don’t want to. They want that lesbian label because it’s seen as sexy for women and their husbands like it.

Frustrated at the dismissal of female sexuality, especially homosexuality by RedditHatesLesbians in GenderCritical

[–]PopeyesChicken 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I used to work at a gay bar. Lots of gay guy friends cause I was one of two lesbians working the place.

Sooo many “straight” guys fuck dudes. Lots experiment. They just don’t tell people about it. They don’t even admit they’re bisexual. Don't believe me? Ask a gay man sometime.

"Whew! Thank god homosexuality's definition is being changed so that gay people must be attracted to biological females to be gay! Definitely not homophobic, by the way! Nor do I have internalised biphobia!" by Smolders1 in LGBDropTheT

[–]PopeyesChicken 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I saw a post on reddit that was something like “AMA I was exclusively lesbian until I met my boyfriend”. She kept talking about how sexuality is fluid. Lol but guess what... a few answers into her post she has a comment like:

“I always thought men could be cute and liked to make out with them at parties. But I never thought it would work for a lasting relationship before I met him”

So... you always liked men but you’re coming here to say you were “exclusively lesbian” and saying lesbians can change? Fuck you

"Whew! Thank god homosexuality's definition is being changed so that gay people must be attracted to biological females to be gay! Definitely not homophobic, by the way! Nor do I have internalised biphobia!" by Smolders1 in LGBDropTheT

[–]PopeyesChicken 12 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

This is a big pet peeve for me too! There are so many of them and it just looks so stupid. How can you be a lesbian when you have a husband? Does he think it’s that sexy that you keep saying it when you:

  • Sleep next to him every night

  • Have sucked his dick countless times

  • Have had his load in you countless times

  • Have probably given birth to his children

  • Took an oath that you would be with him until you die

  • Legally are part of his family

  • Legally, if you die, your property would go to him

  • Are in love with him

  • Love being with him more than any other person

Should I even go on lol. These women are so stupid.

"Whew! Thank god homosexuality's definition is being changed so that gay people must be attracted to biological females to be gay! Definitely not homophobic, by the way! Nor do I have internalised biphobia!" by Smolders1 in LGBDropTheT

[–]PopeyesChicken 18 insightful - 2 fun18 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It’s different because gay men aren’t fetishized in the way that lesbians are. Her husband is most likely thinking “man! I’m really good in bed - even lesbians can’t stay away from me!” I can almost promise you they are unicorn hunters too lol

What is in it for women? by fuckupaddams in GenderCritical

[–]PopeyesChicken 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A lot of women prioritize what other people think about them over everything. So they care about looking the MOST woke, the MOST tolerant, the MOST right

"You can't ask someone if they are trans" according to the not-lesbians on r/actuallesbians. by reluctant_commenter in LGBDropTheT

[–]PopeyesChicken 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Do these people live on earth or mars? LOL

"EVERYBODY's sexuality is fluid. You never know if you won't meet a person that will change it for you!" by lazy-summer-god in LGBDropTheT

[–]PopeyesChicken 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So the annoying straight girls call themselves bi for attention. Nobody is allowed to say anything about it because bi community says everyone is valid.

The annoying bi girls call themselves lesbians. Nobody is allowed to say anything about it because the bi girls have taken over the lesbian community and thrown out the lesbians who criticize them.

When are bi people going to own that there’s a real problem in their community with this? A lot of the homophobic stuff is coming from them.

"EVERYBODY's sexuality is fluid. You never know if you won't meet a person that will change it for you!" by lazy-summer-god in LGBDropTheT

[–]PopeyesChicken 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think he means that it can’t be fluid for a person who’s gay.