4 months ago by Parthings to /s/debatealtright from self.debatealtright
Who is in your closer to you in-group?
3 months ago * by Parthings to /s/debatealtright from self.debatealtright
A simple system for a new ethnostate. (Disregard if you don't like ethnostate detail discussions.) by send_nasty_stuff in debatealtright
[–]Parthings 3 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 5 fun - 3 months ago* (0 children)
Idiocy. Even in an attempt to create an ethnistate you are trying to liberal.
Here is a simple question, what history are you going to teach the non original peoples? That discrimination that their parents faced was all legal, proper and moral. And that they should not feel bad for the discriminating others facing similarly things today? Ie new generation of immigrant partners?
Here is the basic problem with you white nationalists types. While You have an idea of who you are, you have no idea of who the “other” is. As long as you don’t define it clearly, mark strict boundaries, you will let emotions and your favorite logic of the day create a crisis of identity that will continue to backfire.
I’m brown and Indian. And maybe the biggest shame on my country is that ancestors of wimps with the ideology of a pacifist crucified Jew were able to rule it for as long as they did.
Subersive movies by Parthings in debatealtright
[–]Parthings[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun - 4 months ago* (0 children)
The left are a group of people who are most comfortable at another persons house. So when they are in India, there is very little hesitation they have before abusing Indian culture in the name of whatever social fracture they want to develop. The same with America.
The difference is between local Allies to abuse the culture. In west they have befriended Islamic group and racial minorities to abuse the fleeting majority. In India it is Hindus.
Most of the left however composed of the same majority group ie a lot of liberals in US are white and so in India are Hindu. They kill the community they come from, pimp their history… all so that they can fit in better with a badge of honor.
They define their group in ideological terms, rather that racial or religions terms. So while they are keen to criticize in-groups of race and relgion, they open flaunt their discrimination on of ideological out-groups (say for instance nationalists). Their preferred ally is any who can cry victim (whether legitimately or otherwise)!and their biggest weapon is mercy that one illicits from victimhood.
Thanks for searching for these links. The host of the website is a liberal professor in Rutgers Audrey Truscke who writes sympathetically about Islamic dictator who committed pogroms as state policy. The second website is the dhimmi (Islamic pejorative for surviving non believers ) married to a man with a particularly long nose (guess where he gets it from) who goes out to insult India and Hindus openly siding with bigoted even separatists elements of religion of peace.
I see a global left. In fact my initial opinions of America where through the lens of a global left. I wish there was a global (or atleast a collaborative) right. Would help in defeating left propaganda better.
Subversion of Christianity by Dragonerne in debatealtright
[–]Parthings 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 2 months ago (0 children)
Correct and that’s why any ideas of potential syncretic traditions between Greece and Judea are plain hogwash as long as Christianity does not give up its spiritual monopoly. Roman gods and Greek gods could fight but they’re people never lost their spiritual being. Christian gods will not allow any other form of spiritual being to exist
There are efforts, yes. But none have succeeded. Like America for instance, it is in my opinion formed on the aspiration to Greece and Rome but since it remains one nation under one Jealous Abhramic God, it has had no spiritual existence beyond a limited set of possibilities.
If it was so natural for Greek philosophy to be lend it self to Judean beliefs, why was there so much conflict, humiliation, destruction of pre Abrahamic gods ?
Like subversion of Christianity (even if true) is a mediocre achievement compared to the subversion of all European Gods
Likely I’m in a minority of one in my opinion.
You don’t have a separate worlds in culture, politics that is entirely isolated from spiritual realm. What you consider Gods influence your systems, your culture, your ethics and your politics. All our institutions are an outgrowth of spiritual opinions we hold. And once someone defeats us spiritually, it is an uphill battle to keep society from falling. It is not an accident that all places of pre Abhramic European worship have prominent crosses hanging over them. It is a sign of spiritual conquest.
The Abrahamic cults are all conquering. They leave no space for your original gods… much as you might like to associate the political realities as naturally descendant from a Greco Roman history more than a Judea history, the abrahmics has taken Europe out of Europeans as much as it is taking Africa outside of Africans.
I don’t share the sympathy you people have for Christianity but I do hope you try and understand that native philosophies of Europe is not compatible with its chritianization (or Abrahamism). This does not mean you have to give up on European Christians but it does mean that you seek to increase a non abrahmic source for your spirituality instead of splitting hairs to salvage the salvation of one Jew.
Who is in your closer to you in-group? by Parthings in debatealtright
[–]Parthings[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun - 3 months ago (0 children)
Well, Reagan platforms a lot of minority population Christians. I don’t think they had any individual political merit apart from being overtly devoted.
I’ll add Nicky Haeley to the list who seems to me ti be the right’s Kamala
[–]Parthings[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 3 months ago* (0 children)
I’ll explain why I ask.
As a Hindu Indian, my culture is tied to the land, history and identity of the Indian subcontinent.
When I think of it, Muslim (and another Abrahamic) presence in India was far worse for this ethno religious identity than any ruler of another race. To maintain the legacy of Hindu history and a distinct cultural identity, a white/black/yellow hindu is a better ally than any Abrahamic faith.
Now with the majority of you, some part of history is already Christian. And possibly that’s why you might not see much spiritual difference to Islam since both are antagonistic to pre Abrahamic culture of the past (though Islam is far worse).
I see someone like Dinesh Dsouza, Jindal, Kamala Harris, who are successful only because of their religious affiliation to Christianity. And it makes me think how do you guys see them.
According to me most of these brown converts are for political convenience. And while you might see them as friends, they will support every immigration policy you oppose for brown/black people.
NYT: China Is Winning in Asia. Biden’s Plans Won’t Change That. by casparvoneverec in debatealtright
[–]Parthings 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 3 months ago (0 children)
Strategically, it’s not just winning in Asia. It is winning in Africa, it is ready to take over Middle East, it is potent in Latin American.
Russian enemies is going to cost a lot.
Yeah, all humans are first African, then north Indian , then other parts of the world
[–]Parthings 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 3 months ago* (0 children)
Precisely why I call prefer calling them coolie than elite. I have respect for Tamil/Bengal Brahmins who have excelled in many fields but they are also the most woke bunch one comes across
If history is a reference, then majority African countries are antagonistic to brown and yellow people after the white leave.
Will the same play out in America ? Not sure. African Americans have a differnt history from most other Africans
I’m not ignoring all that. The British selected Brahmins from 2 areas, Tamils and Bengal. Not from Maharashtra, not from Kashmir, not from Uttar Pradesh and related areas? Why? Because of scripture IQ and other reasons? No because these 2 areas had least resistance and even less by Brahmins in 1857. So after 1857, thr were carefully cultivated. The same time period Maharashtra Brahmins were not cultivated to be serve British and most early independence leaders were from there
So yes they were a deserving elite in the pre colonial times, but in colonial times, they were not elite, they became coolies, and most of them continue to be.
Maybe look up what British said about Brahmins in south India (madras province) and the Socio economic status in early censuses they conducted
That is for political reasons but it’s Not reality. To see how a people behave, they must be in confident power.
The reality is that in America they are a 10% minority with an 70%ish antagonist majority. So the smaller 1-4% groups are strategic “Allies” in antagonism to the large majority. Communists know the politics of majority and minority.
Let’s see nations which had a majority black population with tiny pockets of brown population. Caribbean ones like Trinidad Tobago, Guyana all places the brown folk were/are severely persecuted. Is there any brown affirmative action there for minorities ?
In Africa, Uganda saw a exodus en masse, South Africa has been anti white but if history is any regard, it will be anti brown soon as well.
The point is human beings, defined by genes are super interealted to each other. The African genetic makeup is significantly different from all other humans.
Now is the non African male, Indian first or European first. The evidence seems to indicate all genetic haplogroups are Indian first and then European later. Hence if there is an Aryan invasion, it is the invasion of European lands, not India.
Now we can engage further about what the reality is based on differnt levels of linguistic (most familiar with this) or genetic, archaeological evidence. But that’s not the point. The point is politics of identity that is now playing out on a misrepresented version of history.
I’ll also add that if you look at mythology, before Europe adopted the fatherless Jewish god, there is a lot of similar threads of stories which I feel is a strong possible connection between Indian and European peoples.
[–]Parthings 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun - 3 months ago* (0 children)
I see it as a perversion of history. It all starts when a new category of scientists, ie linguists realize that Latin and Sanskrit are connected in the hip. The contemporary reality of their times makes them pre supposed erstwhile Europeans came to India. This also helps them develop the savior complex and absolve any guilt of colonizing.
There is more linguistic and genetic evidence of people moving out of India than into India. So Europeans are native to India and all humans before that are native to Africa.
The big reason why people take issue with it now is not the perversion of history though. It is the politics that this perversion has enabled.
There is a state (Tamil Nadu) that resists Indians from other parts to maintain a proud “Dravidian” heritage. These idiots did not see Britishers as any more foreign ruler than rather their cultural elite “Brahmins” (who were elite only because of the acceptable coolie status British rule gave them) as the aryans who came to destroy their culture. They so called Dravidians have a toxic narrative that relies heavily of the dim-lit theory that has gained traction in other parts of India where they are asking for identifying indigenous status of most castes and the exclusion of certain upper castes as invaders. They also extend strange theories of a connection with Africans through a lost continent of lemuria.
No matter where you start from, what you incentivize through the state will lead to a future of more people linking the incentive.
Let’s say your state is 100% “your perfect category” of people. You decide to allow 1% of an “other”. How well “other” intergrates into “your perfect category” is key.
Europe decided that language was the way to define “other”. Has messed it up. America had an racial identity but like your post it failed to identify an “other”.
Think of this in another way. If a black nationalist movement starts today, they too have problems defining the category “black”. But they have no issues defining the “other” category.
If an Islamic state exists, they have 0 trouble defining the “other”
Ideological clarity of defining who is not in either. The basis can be by action, belief or birth. All this so that is “your perfect category” has an identity it is willing to be proud of and maintain in dignity
The different political systems indigenous to each race by casparvoneverec in debatealtright
[–]Parthings 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 4 months ago (0 children)
Absolutely. But knowing the culture more, you see that a shady “intellectual” claiming to know better is the source of legitimacy for the government.
Before Gandhi, neither the congress nor the British were popularly legitimate. Mughals sponsored an entire set of intellectuals to translate ancient Hindu works to Persian and other languages. Even today, the anti Hindu caste warriors rely on a Dr Ambedkar to be the source of their intellectual credibility.
Part of the reason why the BJP has failed to maneuver better is because it is still seen as a party without an “intellectual” backing
I’ll suggest that Indian oligarchy also needs a pass from an “intellectual” aristocracy. As long as current “intellectual” aristocracy approves, oligarchy can get away with anything.
Jared Taylor interviews a White South African, who explains how Whites are turning things around. by radicalcentrist in debatealtright
Exactly. And this is the difference between the two sides.
Even when there is no persecution, the left knows to cry victim and get its way. Even when there is active persecution, the right tries to virtue signal by showing off its success.
Don’t know who the host is but one hell of a foolish thing to do.
Even if true, it’s stupid to announce this. Don’t run a victory lap so soon.
Success will mark you out as a target and set you up for further existence in the shadows. Stay quite, build unity and hide your strengths.
[–]Parthings[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 4 months ago (0 children)
Seems great! Thanks
No, please expose subversion like what Devon stack does. And try to generate some movies that show a history more clearly.
Ok, attitudes like this will allow the left to screw your country as much as it did mine.
I like your peoples inherent reasonability or atleast the remnants of it.
As far as I can see my people don’t hate whites, but they admire them too much for my cultures good. vijaya gadde is the kind of specimen that is brown in skin color but has modeled her entire attitude on a white left liberal. Lily Singh and Kamala aslo reek of the same kind of biases and attitude. Ask them about Hindu/Indian culture, they will also say what you did “I like these peoples food, or the anglicized version of it..”