(1st Real Post?) A Critical Look at Linda Moulton Howe

OsoFeo · 2017-10-20T22:00:41+00:00

Please, go on, about the liminal phenomenon and what Hansen has to say.

It's been a long time since I read it, and since he doesn't offer any definitive statements it's difficult to characterize his message. Mostly, "it's complicated". The very liminality of the phenomena make them difficult to definitively characterize. He does talk a lot about the relationship between paranormal phenomena (including UFOs) and the "Trickster" archetype -- thus reinforcing the difficulty in grappling with the issues.

Re: vibrational signature to each point in the universe. Yes, I believe that to be a much truer representation of reality than our familiar spatiotemporal conceptualization. Several times, at the hold hangout, I've referred to the Fourier Transform as a mathematical allegory for how a frequency-based conceptualization can be equivalent to a time-based conceptualization, and perhaps (for some purposes) more powerful. Also, lately, I've been thinking about the idea of the Rainbow as being representative of the covenant between Yahweh and Israelites, how the idea of "covenant" evokes the idea of a collective agreement. I.e., our experience of this plane of reality is the result of a collective agreement to tune into specific frequencies (=colors). Outside the scope of the OP, but I think relevant to the issue of how other "beings" may be interacting with us.

OsoFeo · 2017-10-20T18:14:15+00:00

That would be Lam.

OsoFeo · 2017-10-20T18:12:09+00:00

However, that doesn't necessarily exclude the possibilities of other beings being truly extraterrestrial or hidden ancient beings native to earth and our solar system.

The problem is that the definitions of "extraterrestrial" (beyond the earth) and "ancient" are based on our current (and, IMO, incorrect) view of space and time. Our understanding of space and time obviously works well enough for phenomena that we classify as "mundane". However, liminal phenomena follow a different law, and suggest flaws in our understanding.

For a scholarly view, see Hansen's The Trickster and the Paranormal.

OsoFeo · 2017-10-20T05:56:11+00:00

My thoughts are that the totality of the subjects she addresses (i.e. the ones you list) cannot be properly understood from the worldview we currently hold as 21st Century Westerners. First of all, in order to travel from distance planets, or even to exist in hidden regions of our own planetary sphere, "extraterrestrials" would need to violate many of the laws of physics as we understand them. This makes them indistinguishable from so-called interdimensional beings, which in turn cannot be distinguished from jinn/fae, spirits, demons, etc. Throw in the weird liminal region between extraterrestrial phenomena and occult evocation practices and you open up even more questions about our worldview vis-a-vis time and space.

To address all this, as well as some of the topics we have been exploring at the old hangout, I think we need to come to terms with what I am starting to call the eternal now. Time itself is an illusion set up by some of the very "alien" beings that are the subject of Linda Moulton Howe's work. It may very well be the case that the concept of "extraterrestrial" is merely a projection of our own limited understanding of how the metaverse really works, and is not tangibly "real" in the sense that we generally take for granted.

Accounting for all that, well, yes, I agree with many of the things she says. But I understand them differently because of my acceptance (though limited understanding) of the eternal now.

OsoFeo · 2017-10-19T06:28:43+00:00

Check.

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